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The Strangest YouTube Controversy of All Time

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TheGamerFromMars

TheGamerFromMars

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Today we'll look into The Completionist charity fallout.
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• My Response
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@gatchatrapped9875
@gatchatrapped9875 8 ай бұрын
Partnering with an alzheimers organization and forgetting about donating for a decade is crazy
@vert2552
@vert2552 8 ай бұрын
Aaaand he still claims the charity is in name of his mother...
@7EEVEE
@7EEVEE 8 ай бұрын
kek
@GikamesShadow
@GikamesShadow 8 ай бұрын
It would be incredibly ironic if Jirard actually had Alzheimers as well which is then why he could have forgotten about the donations in the first place.
@denialwrong
@denialwrong 8 ай бұрын
Performance art
@cynic5581
@cynic5581 8 ай бұрын
Aaayyyoooo!!
@emdotrod
@emdotrod 8 ай бұрын
Jirard may say it's legal to withhold charity funds before donating it but to hold it for years and only donating it after being called out is suspiciously wrong
@DeathCrunch
@DeathCrunch 8 ай бұрын
Actually thats defamation and Jared is going to sue you for saying that
@BlueAmerican26
@BlueAmerican26 8 ай бұрын
Not years. A decade.
@AbramSF
@AbramSF 8 ай бұрын
Not only that, but saying the donated funds have been going to certain organizations that they were not sending money to.
@LockeTheCole
@LockeTheCole 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention, claiming to be donating to many charities, not just the one singular one he donated the whole lump sum to.
@LinkFan2202
@LinkFan2202 8 ай бұрын
@@DeathCrunchYeah I don’t think I’m gonna take my legal advice from someone who can’t even spell Jirard correctly. Also what’s the defamation? Mutahar & Karl provided the receipts, the math simply doesn’t add up. The Completionist is a piece of shit scammer.
@harraldaguilar9164
@harraldaguilar9164 8 ай бұрын
Guys don't worry it all was a small clerical mistake that just happened to occur 100% of the time for 10 years in a row, I mean come on
@nomanejane5766
@nomanejane5766 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget the $30K in "expenses" that one year
@ellyam991
@ellyam991 8 ай бұрын
@@nomanejane5766 hey, buying everything in the Nintendo e-store at once is not cheap
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 8 ай бұрын
nor forget the $125,000+ expenses & annual celebrity golf tournament income that disappeared over 10 years. It's probably down the back of his sofa I'm sure. 👍
@RinsDesk
@RinsDesk 8 ай бұрын
Also don't forget that he said that he was made aware about it in 2022 but he still did nothing then...
@brettlawrence9015
@brettlawrence9015 8 ай бұрын
Yeah the IRS love clerical errors 😂
@annier.6976
@annier.6976 8 ай бұрын
"We just don't know which charity we should donate the money to!" ... How about all the ones you've been rattling off for years!??!
@Aragorn7884
@Aragorn7884 8 ай бұрын
He said it took years to find a charity, but instantly dumped the money 🤷🤦
@iamtheonewhoyoulove
@iamtheonewhoyoulove 8 ай бұрын
hes 100% not being completely honest, and anyone with a brain knows it, it pisses me off
@DeathCrunch
@DeathCrunch 8 ай бұрын
Watch out , he'll literally try and put you in jail for defemation.
@ronaldball9389
@ronaldball9389 8 ай бұрын
Should have donated the funds to all the charities he was claiming to work with. If they were good enough to name to solicit donations from his audience then they should be benefiting from it. Anything short of that is just a con.
@istiompaxindica9676
@istiompaxindica9676 8 ай бұрын
@@DeathCrunch as a completionist, I think he should go down and finish the route of "Video Game Player of the Century" iykwim
@MetroAndroid
@MetroAndroid 8 ай бұрын
??? He had no choice but to dump the money because of their allegations. Obviously he would've rather had been able to more carefully pick, but they forced him to dump it all on a charity (and could have been a worse one because of it). Could've been totally different. Muta and Jobst could've made a video about how they helped him through the process of donating it, instead of coming at him like he's a villain, and the whole world would've been better for it. This is exactly like the ProJared situation but even moreso in Jirard's favor than it was in Jared's.
@ff10fire666
@ff10fire666 8 ай бұрын
Having over $600k in your charity bank account for 10 years and only donating after being called out, doesn't fix the situation and basically makes you look worse.
@jamesrussels7766
@jamesrussels7766 8 ай бұрын
The worst part is, it doesn’t even make you look like a competent criminal, it just makes you look like an idiot. He wasn’t spending it efficiently, he didn’t invest it, or launder it, or anything, it just sat there for a decade and lost a massive chunk of value to inflation by doing nothing at all.
@Tanookicatoon
@Tanookicatoon 8 ай бұрын
Jirard literally said people would react just like you. So you're only proving him right again.
@pikapowns
@pikapowns 8 ай бұрын
​@@jamesrussels7766 People keep saying that he didn't do that, but I'm not convinced. Literally all the information we have is that they never donated then after getting called out they made a 600k donation. The only verification that the money was there the whole time is word of mouth.
@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard
@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard 8 ай бұрын
There's more to the story that we ain't getting and people just can't be accusing without any proof. I'm sure there was some sort of money washing going on. @@jamesrussels7766
@theawesomeali8834
@theawesomeali8834 8 ай бұрын
It’s the bare minimum at the very least but there have been many people who have been dogpiling him with awful jokes instead of thinking critically and providing insightful, objective criticism. He did fuck up and obviously an audit is in order. I find this situation crazy and unfortunate, but it absolutely does need to be brought to light. At least there is a decent amount of money in good hands now, albeit after losing value to inflation and taking too long.
@soulsmith4787
@soulsmith4787 8 ай бұрын
Jirard contradicts himself when he says that the intention to hold onto the money was to make a restricted donation. The phone call with Karl and Muta has an exasperated Jirard explaining that he was surprised to find the money hadn't been donated. His remark that a large sum of money is required to make a restricted donation is a flat out lie. I feel an audit would clear up whether this donation actually came from the funds collected by Open Hands or potentially from another source. If the donation is not entirely made up of funds gathered by Open Hands, then they are screwed.
@Usernotfound31231
@Usernotfound31231 8 ай бұрын
This is a reeeeeally good point
@notaraven
@notaraven 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention the abysmal state of their balance sheets. To not have a small breakdown of cost or revenue is highly irregular for private and public enterprises. Throughout Jirards speech he seemed to imply the costs of the golf tournament cancelled out a lot of the revenue but you cant just cancel them out on the balance sheet.
@rodrigotr04
@rodrigotr04 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say that the fact that the money was held and possibly planed to be paid as a restricted donation and Jirard not knowing the money was still there as contradictory. The fact that Jirard didn't even know the money was there (according to him) shows how much involvement he had in it when it came to handling the money, which in my hypothesis is none, so him not knowing how the money would be handled more than opens to the possibility of him not knowing that the money would need to be stockpiled into a restricted donation. I'm not here defending Jirard, I'm in the very opposite of the spectrum actually. As someone who donated to the cause I'm absolutely pissed about the situation. I'm just putting my two cents in about how this situation has progressed. I'm also more attributing incompetence to something that many are attributing to wrong-doing in the case of Jirard not knowing of the state of the money, but I am not attributing incompetence to the other members of the the OpenHand Foundation that are clearly more directly involved and would've/should've known the situation of the money at all times.
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 8 ай бұрын
@@notaraven he also said that bits and other donations cancelled out some of the expenses too... But people donated that because he said repeatedly that it wouldn't go towards expenses and would go to charity. 🤔
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 8 ай бұрын
@@Naptosis its really simple, jirard is a liar. it's nothing any more complicated than that, he was scamming people in name of his mom and got caught, now you could consider how "bad" of a scam it was of course, but still it fills the checkboxes for a scam, only reason it wouldn't fill in is just a subjective opinion of some dudes that jirard is a "good guy".
@DaRootBeer1231
@DaRootBeer1231 8 ай бұрын
Can we please stop calling this "KZbin Controversy". If the allegations are all true then this is criminal behavior, not some silly drama on the internet.
@dwinters6291
@dwinters6291 8 ай бұрын
The allegations aren't true
@R3BootYourMind
@R3BootYourMind 8 ай бұрын
​@@dwinters6291 The math in their tax filings doesn't add up and he did charity fraud by claiming to be working with charities he wasn't donating to.
@BlueCollaredGrit
@BlueCollaredGrit 8 ай бұрын
The RED FLAGS 🚩 were all there! You guys are gullible AF 😂
@moogleboy
@moogleboy 8 ай бұрын
@@dwinters6291 Jirard literally admitted fault, you receptacle.
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 8 ай бұрын
@@dwinters6291 Bro, you fancy buying a bridge?
@sheshin
@sheshin 8 ай бұрын
His last part being so agressive sugesting he’s gonna sue Muta and Karl was disgusting and a really stupid threat, specially done to Karl
@LateNightTableCo
@LateNightTableCo 8 ай бұрын
Jirad: I’LL SUE YOU!!! Karl: If you win, I’ll give you and award for “Gamer of the Century.”
@lajeandom
@lajeandom 8 ай бұрын
his demeanor changed completely, he looks so angry lol but his career is finished. Even if he makes new videos, i'm not gonna watch.
@amzensix2950
@amzensix2950 8 ай бұрын
I was wondering why he looked mad there lmao
@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard
@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard 8 ай бұрын
If you had to hand over 600k that you didn't plan on doing you'd be pissed too. Dude's a scumbag. He should be cancelled. @@amzensix2950
@XENON3120
@XENON3120 8 ай бұрын
i don't like completionist but thing is karl seem to always end up in court asking for donation from his viewer to affort his lawyer, its like a pattern with him and its all because he has a hero complex
@DR.64A9
@DR.64A9 8 ай бұрын
If you bought that PR statement of an "apology", then you simply want to believe Jirard. This is what hiding behind lawyers looks like.
@solidsnake434
@solidsnake434 8 ай бұрын
You say it like that is a bad thing lol, the worst that could have happened is he goes and makes video responses immediately not having all the info triple checked and not choosing his words carefully. Talking to a lawyer was the best thing he could have done and working on that PR speech was too. It might not look natural or cowardly to people like you. But it was 100% the best call. Afterall he is no lawyer. Not defending his actions, just pointing out that talking to a lawyer is not bad.
@whosaidthat84
@whosaidthat84 8 ай бұрын
​@@solidsnake434100% correct. Jirard fucked up BIG time and the cat's outta the bag. His whole KZbin career is on the line while the Open Hand Foundation is done. He should have never taken Muta's call.
@DR.64A9
@DR.64A9 8 ай бұрын
@@solidsnake434 I agree with everything you said. My comment was directed at people who believe this was a real apology or vindicates OHF. Bit of a strawman, but those people do exist.
@neonmanatee1952
@neonmanatee1952 8 ай бұрын
Greg getting fired and wanting his image removed was a great move.
@Gojiro7
@Gojiro7 8 ай бұрын
I bet he'd have some interesting inside baseball on all this....but staying clear of this and wanting nothing to do with Jirard would be the wiser move
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 8 ай бұрын
Him threatening to sue Muta and Karl only proves he's a POS.
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 8 ай бұрын
That's when his real self came out, and not the fake one he shows to his Twitch, KZbin, and Twitter personal friends. In the call he thanked Karl & Muta and asked for their help, yet in the 'apology' he threatened them for shining a light on his lies; he's just a two-faced coward (IMO) who wanted to continue to bleed $125,000+ from a charity created in his passed mother's honour. Lots of naïve people on twatter swallowed his lies, but I bet he's pıssed he can't continue to take thousands of dollars from that account anymore. That's where the anger towards Karl & Muta probably came from; he's pıssed he has to pay for his streams himself now.
@dwinters6291
@dwinters6291 8 ай бұрын
He wasn't taking any money from that account
@asain3586
@asain3586 8 ай бұрын
​@@dwinters6291 He surely devalue the money thanks to inflation
@pjd418
@pjd418 8 ай бұрын
@@dwinters6291 we have no real idea on that the money could have been taken out we don't have reciets for all we know when he got caught he had to cobble together the 600k from his bank and quickly donate it
@ZetaCancri
@ZetaCancri 8 ай бұрын
"nice guy" indeed
@moogleboy
@moogleboy 8 ай бұрын
Jirard's father, Charles Khalil, owns Power Buying Dealers West, a convenience store consulting firm. Jirard himself admits that proceeds were going to "costs associated with the events, such as sponsor dinners". It seems like once IndieLand came about, the Golf tournament may have been used exclusively to butter up executives at the sponsor companies, including Monster Energy, Coca-Cola, Pepsi and Kuerig/Dr. Pepper. All companies that would benefit PBD West with the business. It's all really suspect.
@DeathPrevails77713
@DeathPrevails77713 8 ай бұрын
Interesting... Seems as if shady shenanigans run deep within the khalil bloodline.
@brady9592
@brady9592 8 ай бұрын
this
@ibuprofen-noodles
@ibuprofen-noodles 8 ай бұрын
hahaha if that turns out to be the case it would be SO disgusting also jirard come and sue me bitch lmaoooo (with the charity money preferably)
@biospark4758
@biospark4758 8 ай бұрын
“We don’t want funds going to things like travel or admin salaries. Also, some of our operating costs went to sponsor dinners.” Wtf?
@gregorymorse8423
@gregorymorse8423 8 ай бұрын
Cost offsetting he admitted to. It's accounting fraud. You have to report full expenses and income. They didn't want the public to know the true size of expenses. I think an audit might let them get away with it as a clerical error though. Only the justice department could look into the fraud aspect. The tax audit is easy as they likely know what they are doing. In all it is shady scheme to get good will and promote his other businesses by using a charity.
@jiminboo
@jiminboo 8 ай бұрын
Jirard threatening Karl with a law suit… the same Karl that’s taking head-on the “final boss” of frivolous lawsuits, Billy Mitchell 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@GikamesShadow
@GikamesShadow 8 ай бұрын
Congrats on falling for Karls Social Media speech
@jiminboo
@jiminboo 8 ай бұрын
@@GikamesShadow lol what does that even mean? 🤷‍♂️ nothing in my statement is untrue…
@dogbackwards7658
@dogbackwards7658 8 ай бұрын
​@@jiminbooeither a jirard fan or billy mitchell fan. Either way, cringe.
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 8 ай бұрын
@@GikamesShadow bless your heart.
@Krexel
@Krexel 8 ай бұрын
​@@GikamesShadow Sure kid.
@AbeM.
@AbeM. 8 ай бұрын
The weirdest part for me has been seeing how many people and even the normal boots guys are so ready to dismiss Muta and Karl as low-life “drama creators”
@OverlyCriticalAnime
@OverlyCriticalAnime 8 ай бұрын
I mean they are not really wrong
@GikamesShadow
@GikamesShadow 8 ай бұрын
They are, Karl more so than Muta. But Muta is on the way there.
@dogbackwards7658
@dogbackwards7658 8 ай бұрын
​@@OverlyCriticalAnime being 100% on Muta and Karl's side here at first these comments ticked me off but thinking for another second, yeah. It's true Muta talks about Drama all the time. Tbf he makes other content but he does touch upon drama stuff on his channel and has invited other drama youtubers like turkey tom on to his podcast.
@dogbackwards7658
@dogbackwards7658 8 ай бұрын
Still though, withholding over 600k in charity funds, staying quiet about it/lying about where it's going and not donating a penny of it till a decade later is not simple "Drama" Holding Jirard to his obligations and being transparent to his audience is not "Drama" People somehow forgot the above and quickly label this situation as "drama". Keemstar had the right take for these people.
@OverlyCriticalAnime
@OverlyCriticalAnime 8 ай бұрын
@@dogbackwards7658 I do think they are milking it a bit here even though he is in the wrong. All parties need to stay quiet and let their lawyers do the talking. If it really goes into suing any can happen. You can still lose even if you are right
@vhshellscape333
@vhshellscape333 8 ай бұрын
Dude has always been sketchy. I'm surprised no one has covered the Greg split that happened almost ten years ago. Everyone took Jirard's side because he's a "nice guy". Greg was in the right and didn't deserve the treatment he received. Honestly, Greg was the reason I liked the Completionist. After he "left" Jirard's content was extremely boring. Him playing victim isn't new, he's been doing it for years.
@gtjouly
@gtjouly 8 ай бұрын
this was the first thing that came to mind when this happened, I remember Jirard being caught in some lies back then too
@whyh6876
@whyh6876 8 ай бұрын
In retrospect yea, you’re right. Greg had that falling out over whatever it was. And he didn’t want to be on the channel. It was his right to privacy. And you’re not wrong. Unless it was a collab with another channel, his vids got boring fast
@michaelhockaday7426
@michaelhockaday7426 8 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what happened with the Gregg thing? I remember the incident but don't know what it was all about.
@herrabanani
@herrabanani 8 ай бұрын
We're rewriting history now? It's not fair for an actor to expect all their past work to be wiped after it's done.
@michaelhockaday7426
@michaelhockaday7426 8 ай бұрын
@herrabanani couldn't Gregg have just used it? It was his work too.
@brady9592
@brady9592 8 ай бұрын
I think Jirard knew the money was not going to charity. Him learning in 2022 does not square with several facts: 1. He had no outward change in behavior after this supposed revelation, continuing to state they worked with/funded charities. 2. The charity continued to donate zero funds prior to just a few days ago, despite Jirard giving the impression that he was upset upon supposed learning nothing was donated in 2022. 3. He was deeply involved in the charity, a board member, the face of fundraising, and stating the name of particular partners. He would have been required to be on yearly board meetings and very likely exposed to financial discussions. It is implausible that he had no idea about the financial state of the OHF, that no one told him they hadn't donated to any specific organization, given all the above. Not to mention the lack of action after supposed learning in 2022. It seems much more likely that he was aware this entire time or that there's some more complicated truth of the matter.
@Dominicn123
@Dominicn123 8 ай бұрын
they were obviously hoping they'd hold it until people forgot and then keep it lol, absolutely no other way of explaining it, they're hoping people were dumb enough to buy the "we just never checked on/knew about it really" come on!!
@chuckrivas3746
@chuckrivas3746 8 ай бұрын
He also self-reported, saying that he had to rush the donation due to the pressure put by the investigation, later on, on his response he changed the story, so, as much as me (and I'm sure many others) wanted to believe this was just a mistake, well, all seems fishy af
@Sleepy_Renamon
@Sleepy_Renamon 8 ай бұрын
According to his apology/threat video the plan was apparently always to hold on to it for an undetermined amount of time until they were satisfied with some vague criteria they hadn't decided on yet. So either that's a lie or even more of his Indieland claims are lies. It's just lies all the way down.
@MrXMysteriousX
@MrXMysteriousX 8 ай бұрын
Jirard said he only knew in 2022 but there is video of him telling the lie that "they donate and work with X charity" as little as a month ago. The guy is probably lying about being told in 2022 and if it is true it means he 100% verifiably LIED last month and did so KNOWINGLY. So no matter how you slice he's a pathological liar and can't be trusted.
@Thezfel101
@Thezfel101 8 ай бұрын
​@@Dominicn123I don't think they were hoping people would forget it and keep it, they knew this money was traced enough that using it themselves would raise flags, instead they skimmed off of the revenue streams with less oversight (Merch sales, non-restricted donations with no electronic trail to follow, the golf tournament stuff, etc.). This money had too much oversight to skim but it satisfied their goal of convincing people to donate through other less watched streams which they could then use on themselves, essentially an investment to increase the profile and reputation of Open Hands so they could steal money via other events. Edit: I should say that's my speculation, it might be they instead were using the charity to schmooze contracts for his dad's company instead of outright stealing the donations but overall none of this makes sense for a legitimate use of the donated funds.
@theconqueringram5295
@theconqueringram5295 8 ай бұрын
I think Mutahar Anas and Karl Jobst did the right thing. People donated money, money that wasn't being used. They even asked him if he was mislead and Jirard said no. I don't know, Jirard is digging his own grave and he has no one to blame for it but himself.
@nworder4life
@nworder4life 8 ай бұрын
They didn't do the right thing, they jumped on a story for views, don't trust journalistic integrity in 2023🤣
@dogbackwards7658
@dogbackwards7658 8 ай бұрын
People are so mentally lazy they can't see how diplomatic Karl and Muta were from the beginning. All the while Jirard has been acting shady and still is.
@mmrchive
@mmrchive 8 ай бұрын
​@@dogbackwards7658 Yeah. If they go back to the original vids, Muta and Karl were so careful not to throw any accusations around. They presented speculations using available evidence and did so almost objectively. I think that Jirard stuck with the narratives that sprung from the duo's initial video that did insinuate some form of malicious intent on Jirard's part, grouping them with Muta's and Karl's perspectives because in his eyes, they started it all. He's acting on emotions and it makes him look like a dumbass at best.
@RJS2003
@RJS2003 8 ай бұрын
First person I've ever seen call Muta by his real full name.
@kotlolish
@kotlolish 8 ай бұрын
I think he was more reacting to the second set of videos from Karl and Muta where they went abit more into the: "Hey he is lieing, you know what chronic liars can do right?" Especially muta doing estimates going: "It doesn't show up, smells like a scam" type of narrative. THATS WHEN THEY WERE EDGING INTO SLANDER. That said I do agree the lawsuit is abit of an overly emotional response, but I think Jirad is doing it since his brother is the aggresor. From what we can tell from Jirad, he's a people pleaser. Doing too much at once. (Though this could be wrong, but let's go with it for a theory) Also you forgot to add that someone from Open Hand tried to COPYRIGHT Karl's 1st video. Note it says: "OPEN HAND" not "The completionist" Considering how Jirad's brother was acting on reddit...you can see him being the one who pulled the trigger, but we cannot be sure. It could been Jirad as well... Anyway that's all... I will probably never know the full truth, but what I need to know is the costs and how money was spread in the organsation to pay costs/wages/such. At this point I am just an outsider looking in, having respect for both, but I do say my respect for Jirad has lowered abit more then Karl's. (Wasn't a fan of muta)@@mmrchive
@ellyam991
@ellyam991 8 ай бұрын
I still find it unbelievable how, after being called out by Karl and Mutah, Jirard lied again while hosting Indieland 2023. This wasn't only scummy, but if we grant that he somehow found about the money recently, he lied while asking for money for a charity in his *late mom's* name. How can there be people forgiving a dude that lies to such an extent so quickly?
@thesalvager3020
@thesalvager3020 8 ай бұрын
That's what I've been thinking. Even before he supposedly knew about what was going on with the money, him claiming they were partnered with charities was either gross incompetence for not checking at best or outright lies at worst.
@Krexel
@Krexel 8 ай бұрын
Some people just refuse to believe that their favorite creator can do anything wrong.
@DeltaCodeGames
@DeltaCodeGames 8 ай бұрын
Hosting Indieland 2023 before donating the $600k gives the impression that they might be compensating for a shortfall.
@ellyam991
@ellyam991 8 ай бұрын
@@thesalvager3020 that's bad enough, but if a family member of mine died from such a terrible disease, I could not lie in their name for whatever reason. That for me is fucked beyond comprehension
@ze-ph9774
@ze-ph9774 8 ай бұрын
@@ellyam991 To add to this, people in general respect the dead more than the living. I understand where some people's confusion and ire are coming from as to why he keeps on doing this in the name of his mother.
@yulia2473
@yulia2473 8 ай бұрын
Well IF Jirard is gonna sue them, it'll open more skeletons in the closet on Jirard's side, which is a BAD MOVE if you ask me..
@DudleyDawg
@DudleyDawg 8 ай бұрын
I think it's just a bluff to scare Muta and Karl into silence.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 8 ай бұрын
@@DudleyDawg of course it is if he isn't as stupid as billy mitchell. but you see jirard comes from money, maybe it has worked for them before to sue because most people can't afford to fight. it's a family of liars so... fun facts the whole completionist character is just a character he ended up at after trying other stuff to make a channel on purpose of making a channel, that's why it feels 'fake' like "tv" because it is.
@markbaker4425
@markbaker4425 8 ай бұрын
If it goes to court theres a process called discovery where muta could request literally every financial document ever filed by khalil relevant to the charity. He wouldnt want that.​@@lasskinn474
@pokeystar101
@pokeystar101 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@lasskinn474billy Mitchell def had money Karl and Muta def gonna fight this loser
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell 8 ай бұрын
That discovery is going to be interesting
@insomnicide94
@insomnicide94 8 ай бұрын
My bro is RIPPED, what the heck 👀
@JoJoZaka
@JoJoZaka 8 ай бұрын
he's daddy 😍 🥵
@Ian00003
@Ian00003 8 ай бұрын
It’s kinda funny to see his transformation over the years
@mutestingray
@mutestingray 8 ай бұрын
A gamer? Ripped??
@fudgen.a1249
@fudgen.a1249 8 ай бұрын
@@mutestingrayAnything is possible with proper work and dedication.
@WilfrePancakes
@WilfrePancakes 8 ай бұрын
​@mutestingray what's even crazier is that he's from the planet mars
@mynameiscal3478
@mynameiscal3478 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call it a youtube controversy. The situation has legit possible legal ramifications. Using "youtube controversy" when a potential crime has been committed under sells what is going on.
@pokeystar101
@pokeystar101 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s so fucking annoying
@thegameplayer125
@thegameplayer125 8 ай бұрын
it's always fascinating watching youtuber downfalls like jirard's or iilluminaughtii's where they are able to utterly annihilate their careers and reputations overnight rather than it slowly happening over years
@Hotwopper
@Hotwopper 8 ай бұрын
Destroying something is easier and faster than building it. Fuck Jirard, I liked him but he doesn't deserve any chance after saying so many times "oh btw my mom died, please donate money" and lying after that
@aneboonchuy3033
@aneboonchuy3033 8 ай бұрын
iilluminaughti was more of a slow burn. I remember there was drama a few years ago
@UndeadSlayer5
@UndeadSlayer5 8 ай бұрын
He said he was stepping down so it wouldn’t matter anyway
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 8 ай бұрын
@@UndeadSlayer5 Kinda pointless stepping down once the charity has no more money to give. Should've done that 9 years ago.
@themacewens
@themacewens 8 ай бұрын
@@aneboonchuy3033 Jirard was an even slower burn, many years ago he had his friend Greg as a cohost but left (not willingly he claims iirc) after something ruined his friendship. Jirard was lying to his fanbase that they were still friends and Greg soon made a post countering those claims and in which it was clear there was some bad blood between the two. Maybe this was a sign that Jirard wasnt "Such a nice guy".
@vincent9413
@vincent9413 8 ай бұрын
Jirard took an unfortunate approach to this situation. It seems like he just wanted to save his reputation, and characterized Muta and Karl as vultures in order to do so.
@TuckerLeeC
@TuckerLeeC 8 ай бұрын
Well yeah, they Libeled him.
@killianlile173
@killianlile173 8 ай бұрын
​@@TuckerLeeCLol ok then if that's the case he will win his court case. Except they didn't commit libel, but keep simping for a KZbinr.
@moogleboy
@moogleboy 8 ай бұрын
@@TuckerLeeC Pointing out facts is not Libel. Quit being parasocial.
@zaprowsdower3911
@zaprowsdower3911 8 ай бұрын
Lol no they didn't your boys a lier
@anthonyg5001
@anthonyg5001 8 ай бұрын
@@TuckerLeeChe’s not gunna f*ck you, bro
@crabwalktechnic
@crabwalktechnic 8 ай бұрын
I don't think Open Hand was in talks with any charity. If they were actively communicating with charities, they would have tons of evidence. They would need to keep email, texts, and call logs just to operate as a business. They could have easily presented this in his apology video. Any lawyer or PR person would make sure it was in there as it totally defends one of the biggest criticisms of Jirard. "Why wasn't the money donated for 10 years?" The fact that they haven't leads me to believe that part of the video was made up.
@Thezfel101
@Thezfel101 8 ай бұрын
Also notice how Jirard was willing to put in evidence of irrelevant things like his mother's autopsy but not evidence of talking with the charities which would instantly exonerate him. He knows he doesn't have that information but is hoping being overly willing to share with other sensitive information will convince third parties that "Oh he's being super honest and open so this must be all of the truth from him, he wouldn't share his mother's autopsy if he was being deceptive."
@DeathPrevails77713
@DeathPrevails77713 8 ай бұрын
True. We all damn well know that this fund was there as a retirement nest egg for the khalil's.
@dogbackwards7658
@dogbackwards7658 8 ай бұрын
Yeah if Jirard was so squeeky clean why the glaring amount of inconsistencies? What else is he hiding behind lies and cover-ups?
@moogleboy
@moogleboy 8 ай бұрын
@Thezfel101 Allegedly, the autopsy report was proof that they donated her body to USF as a medical cadaver. The problem is he never told anyone WHY he put her autopsy there in the first place, so people came to a logical conclusion of an appeal to sympathy since he has a history of it. I don't know if I 100% believe it was intended as a receipt, but it is what it is.
@Thezfel101
@Thezfel101 8 ай бұрын
@@moogleboy I know that, but that doesn't prevent it from being an appeal to sympathy in my judgement. Let's think of this scenario, I've just accused you of killing your wife and also mentioned your mom hated pumpernickle. You respond to me by providing extensive evidence your mom never hated pumpernickle while strangely providing none of the evidence you might have as to not having killed your wife. It's strange in that situation that of the very serious allegations you are facing, you focus on the relatively minor and if anything easily dismissed and ignored accusation in the matter. This is what liars do when they want to come across as being truthful and open and make it seem like their accusers are dumb/wrong, "Look I'm being vulnerable on this point, thus I must be honest overall! My accusers were wrong and fishing for dumb stuff here so they must be wrong on all of the charges they levied on me!" He latched on to the few people making a stink about his mom because he knew he could present himself as the 'good and honest guy' on those accusations while conveniently ignoring the more serious ones that he strangely has nothing to say on. Edit: Put another way, if Jirard was being so thorough as to even respond to the concerns of his mother's body being donated, why was he not more thorough in responding to the actual concerns people like Karl and Muta brought up? It just doesn't square with a person being entirely honest on the situation. If Jirard is so fine sharing audit statements, why are they conveniently the ones from before Karl and Muta raising concerns with charity's records, etc.
@no_0riginality937
@no_0riginality937 8 ай бұрын
Jirard: *Threathens a lawsuit* Muta: *Completely dismantles Jirard’s apology and statements* Karl: Bring it! First I have to deal with Billy Mitchel and now you!
@CookiePieMonster
@CookiePieMonster 8 ай бұрын
Muta or Asmon (can't remember which) showed the legal definition of Charity fraud and claiming to donate as a charity when never having done so, is considered fraud. Even with him changing from private to public, that was never communicated and thus is still fraudulent.
@PandamoniumBruu
@PandamoniumBruu 8 ай бұрын
I think it was Asmon
@Mondy667
@Mondy667 8 ай бұрын
​@@PandamoniumBruuAsmon reacting to Muta's response
@vert2552
@vert2552 8 ай бұрын
I think Muda did show the definition in one of his videos
@AvengingN00b
@AvengingN00b 8 ай бұрын
@@vert2552and then asmon reacted to it
@tothemax0729
@tothemax0729 8 ай бұрын
I used to love the completionist... and Greg
@KaiIzuki
@KaiIzuki 8 ай бұрын
BEARDMEN
@tylertheguy3160
@tylertheguy3160 8 ай бұрын
I'm starting to think there might've been a justified reason why Greg wanted his likeness scrubbed from the channel.
@NoxWyatt
@NoxWyatt 8 ай бұрын
@@tylertheguy3160I must be in the minority then, because I didn’t find Greg entertaining at all. I always found Jirard’s videos without Greg to be better. Plus, his apology seems genuine enough.
@TheGlasgowGamer
@TheGlasgowGamer 8 ай бұрын
@@tylertheguy3160Same here. It was my first thought when the scandal broke. Because I always wondered about that… I did wonder who was in the wrong there. Now I feel confident about who that is.
@TheGlasgowGamer
@TheGlasgowGamer 8 ай бұрын
@@NoxWyattI agree with that (not about his apology), but it was a shame that Jirard had to remove those videos, especially since they were much funnier than his new style. But now after the scandal, I can’t watch him, and only watched his response out of curiosity.
@SilverracerKH
@SilverracerKH 8 ай бұрын
Not many people are commenting the fact he didn’t have to outright steal the money in a lump some, very few are accusing him of that. The real issue to me is he COULD have stolen the money by simply leaving it in the account and pulling out 50k a year in “expenses “ ……a fact I see almost no one pointing out.
@ypcomchic
@ypcomchic 8 ай бұрын
Right? Because the first words out of his mouth was “expenses”.
@SilverracerKH
@SilverracerKH 8 ай бұрын
@@ypcomchic my thoughts exactly
@bert949
@bert949 8 ай бұрын
My thoughts too. It's kind of like giving your friend a cushy made up job to manage things at Open Hands. Give them a payroll to make it look legit when there's really not any real work being done.
@Deytookourjurrrs
@Deytookourjurrrs 8 ай бұрын
I know what you’re saying muta said it in his video however that skimming off the money in the long run is also a theory but to say he accused him of embezzlement is crazy when he specifically said he’s not those making allegations.
@ThePumpDaddyC
@ThePumpDaddyC 8 ай бұрын
The fact that muta genuinely helped and Jirard right after donating the money was like I’m gonna sue him for helping me really sends red flags and he showed nothing not even a charity he donated to. He was like my source is Trust me bro. And then threatens legeal action against muta for “embarrassment “ even though he never embezzled him at all. So it just feels more like a lawyer he had told him to say that and then muta can easily clap back because he has the proof while Jirard basically has nothing other then “please believe me” as a settlement case.
@Micchi-
@Micchi- 8 ай бұрын
The only one who said embezzlement is dexertro
@TheUnapologeticGeek
@TheUnapologeticGeek 8 ай бұрын
If a lawyer told him anything, it probably should have been “don’t make that video.”
@makavoxel
@makavoxel 8 ай бұрын
Reminder: 10 years is 1/8th of the average persons life span of 80 years. He held the money for that long. Why?
@chesspunk489
@chesspunk489 8 ай бұрын
This might replace Billy Mitchell's biggest lie in video game history.
@KorriTimigan
@KorriTimigan 8 ай бұрын
PLOT TWIST: Billy Mitchell is working with Open Hand, and this is Karl's 4D chess move to attack him on all fronts!😂
@Liesmith424
@Liesmith424 8 ай бұрын
Wow, Billy can't legitimately earn the top spot in anything, can he?
@thsudy
@thsudy 8 ай бұрын
Nah. He doesn’t sell hot sauce lol
@videogamerNattie98
@videogamerNattie98 8 ай бұрын
I would say no, no one can top Billy most the hate done onto Jirard is because of his choices in handling the problem as it became one if he pulled back after admitting the faults he would have been able to put out the fire but he opted to puff up his chest and threaten legal action cause his ego was hurt to much in his eyes. Which is a fast one way track to losing even more PR from this then just letting it finally rest. If he loses he will be forced to pay repercussions for the money he wasted of theres, if he wins well he is looked at as a POS because he did it for his ego, not to prove he was right. Also this wont be a simple walk over unlike Billy, Jirard is much more secure in his points that even Muta and Karl had to admit they messed up in some parts of there initial point something that never happened with Billy. Which shows this is going to be a much more difficult legal battle people forget Winning a legal battle against Billy is not really all that impressive its just demanding because of his persistence but the legality itself is not that hard to beat.
@Knirrax
@Knirrax 8 ай бұрын
If someone threatens to sue when you look into them, thats a clear sign to KEEP LOOKING
@LucMarcelle
@LucMarcelle 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely. People with nothing to hide don't give a single shit beyond maybe an initial wtf.
@chimmyinfernape9189
@chimmyinfernape9189 8 ай бұрын
Jirard sweeping stuff under the rug reminds of when Greg left the show
@snozer6966
@snozer6966 8 ай бұрын
Upon retrospect I’m starting to think that Greg may have had a point.
@matthewm2139
@matthewm2139 8 ай бұрын
Really appreciating your videos lately. Level-headed and fair.
@goroocoliv01
@goroocoliv01 8 ай бұрын
Off topic but you are getting jacked, hella proud of you my guy
@binxthebinx6575
@binxthebinx6575 8 ай бұрын
What makes this more egregious is the fact that his friends like Antdude and BeatEmUps rushed to his defense even after it had been proven that Jirard was at least guilty of charity fraud. There are others in his circle that defended him when he was clearly guilty of many things and because of this. His friends, some of whom I enjoyed watching, now look just as bad as Jirard himself. There responses to this are just so tone deaf, it would have been better for there KZbin channels to not say anything at all...but they did and now many people are criticizing them too. If it's deserved or not is entirely dependent on the person.... But I think for some of them, it was kind of deserved honestly...
@jenarickman9215
@jenarickman9215 8 ай бұрын
Well to be fair with Antdude at least, his point was moreso focused on the fact that Jirard still had the opportunity to donate the money. He was stating that Jirard still had an opportunity to make it right.
@user-fi9uk8pe7i
@user-fi9uk8pe7i 8 ай бұрын
I was waiting for someone to mention this. I’ve never had a high opinion of BeatEmUps, especially after his sob story vid where he was on the verge of tears over losing his Nintendo Ambassador status, even though it means nothing and is just a status symbol. His fans attacked Nintendo on Twitter, and he later made a vid asking them to stop, and saying he never wanted them to do that…but he had to have known what would happen when he made the original vid, lmao. He was 100% hoping Nintendo would change their minds after that, but they didn’t, thankfully. Same for ProJared, considering his…everything. I don’t know anything about AntDude, but I doubt I will watch him after this, and the same goes for anybody who’s publicly defending Jirard.
@binxthebinx6575
@binxthebinx6575 8 ай бұрын
@@jenarickman9215 That's fair. I more so had a problem with Antdude when it came to him still defending Jirard after Mutahar's response to Jirards apology video. Not only did Jirard not prove where the $600,000 went with bank statements (hell, I don't even know what charity it went to. If I'm wrong please let me know!) But he threatened Mutahar and Carl with lawsuits which immediately makes him look like a shitty person with something to hide...and yet Antdude still tells people on twitter that he's a good guy, he wouldn't do this intentionally, etc etc I heard it a thousand times. At this point, Jiraid has been outed as a very manipulative person and AntDude, along with his other friends, still defend him making themselves look worse in the process. That's what I don't like which makes me believe that they're all cut from the same cloth. Who's to say they all act and think the same? Unless they cut ties with Jirard completely. Everyone who has defended him will now take a hit and there's no stopping it.
@binxthebinx6575
@binxthebinx6575 8 ай бұрын
@@user-fi9uk8pe7i I personally never liked BeatEmUps either because we never agreed on anything. I remember when he made a video about Nintendo's Online and he said something along the lines of "I used the online and there were no problems with it. I think the $80 a year is great" and ignored everyone else's criticisms with Nintendo's online that ere completely justifiable. He makes videos like that a lot. His fire emblem videos have also always been terrible and completely misses the mark every time he talks about them. But yeah, he's literally just as tone deaf as Antdude, if not worse. I swear he acts like a literal child with no reason or rational thought to anything happening in reality. I'll just say that, just like Antdude, unless he cuts ties with Jirard, his channel will also take a hit. Any of Jirards friends that once defended him are now at risk of losing subscribers.
@SirLector
@SirLector 8 ай бұрын
In defense of antdude at least he did say that jirad fucked up He was more against the outrages claims and so on and hey lets be Real AT first you would always trust your friend more
@Ikcatcher
@Ikcatcher 8 ай бұрын
I don’t like Mutahar but for some people to act like he was slandering Jirard for views is honestly disingenuous. Jirard makes a video explaining his side and suddenly all his fans and circle of friends immediately declare him innocent.
@GeorgeSukFuk
@GeorgeSukFuk 8 ай бұрын
Just curious why don't you like Mutahar
@Ikcatcher
@Ikcatcher 8 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeSukFuk I just don’t like his other videos on gaming with opinions I just find to be parroting the popular opinion
@kavinh10
@kavinh10 8 ай бұрын
his subreddit is still against him surprisingly the only defenders he has left are the twitter crow.d
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 8 ай бұрын
it's the g4 way :D it's all just lies and money way, people who deal with jirard already know that jirard would lie about their relationships with him too if jirard thought he had to do that to save face. that's what jirard and that posse does. they lie - they even lie when they have been logically proven to have lied, then they just misdirect.
@pheonixowl999
@pheonixowl999 8 ай бұрын
he put it online didn't he? of course it was for the fucking views. same with this guy riding the drama train
@yobin3711
@yobin3711 8 ай бұрын
ProJared of all people talking shit without actually watching the video or looking into it at all is so deeply ironic.
@MrXMysteriousX
@MrXMysteriousX 8 ай бұрын
A good point came up on Asmongolds channel which is that through is inaction, even if he's entirely innocent (which I don't believe) he is responsible for around $100,000 effectively evaporating due to inflation and he 100% most definitely lied on multiple occasions (all documented in video or audio recordings) so could be argues he defrauded people by not donating it. He's also benefitted from the good press, connections and accolades being associated with charity work; all of which would be fraudulent and so may still actually be illegal under the definition of charity fraud. I can't say he is guilty, I'm not a lawyer, but everything is extremely suspicious, he only donated the money due to pressure from Karl and Co. And Jirard has stupidly admitted that in a call with them. Any bad press related to this is entirely of his making and the icing on the cake is that behind is faux " I take responsibility" speech is he and his family are quietly trying to wash their hands of it all by swapping out the board (they were all on it) whilst accusing those who brought this to light as being the ones at fault hence why he is suing them. It's extremely ill-advised because beyond being tone deaf any lawsuit would have to anysis his, his families and the charities finances with a fine tooth comb in Cross examination as one defence Karl and Co. Could use is that he IS guilty of fraud, making it null, if proven. Already I'd argue that Jirard has little chance of succeeding and Karl and Co. could counter-sue but there is a real threat he and his family are responsible for a criminal act. I suspect the forcefulness at the end of his video is actually there to scare Karl and Co. and take attention away, but rather stupidly it merely highlights it. All that talk about "being scared" and alluding to doxxing is bogus, a terrible attempt at farming sympathy. Just from the video's highlighting his previous comments where he claimed he "works with" X Y Z charities which at the time recieved $0 we know he is duplicitous and manipulative. His entire defence is "we did nothing legally wrong, we were just incompetent" because incompetence might get him off the hook. But he has, as a matter of fact LIED on MULTIPLE occasions and may still have "gained" just not directly, so it's up for debate in court if he is guilty. What's not up for debate is he's a horrible human being, particularly by trying to sue those who brought this to light . And if Karl needs money yet again to fight off another BS litigation from someone we know is in the wrong I have no doubt the community will step up.
@AllyMonsters
@AllyMonsters 8 ай бұрын
Jirard is 100% guilty. It's illegal to fund raise under someone elses banner and not donate to them later on. Jirard even forged a thank letter to himself from charity that he never donated to.
@Micchi-
@Micchi- 8 ай бұрын
@@AllyMonsters where is this thank letter?
@jack90054
@jack90054 8 ай бұрын
Also, we've seen not too long ago with SBF that the "I'm not a scammer; I'm just incompetent." take doesn't FUCKIN work in court, especially not when there's video/voice proof of you yapping about your "work."
@envis10n12
@envis10n12 8 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the true focus on the story and not in stirring the drama. I was aware of this situation, but didn't know any details. Thanks for this
@DeathPrevails77713
@DeathPrevails77713 8 ай бұрын
It's understandable if the money had been only there for a year or maybe even 2 years, but 8+ YEARS??? The competitionist can diamond infused rose water sugar coat that nothing he and his charity did was wrong / criminal but if mutahar and karl didn't bring this information about, the money would still be sitting in jirard's "charity" bank account and it would have been nice nesting egg to have for a retirement plan. Also notice that since this story came to light, that jirard and his charity magically decided that they finally found a suitable candidate to donate to after years and years and years...
@ButtHoleLVR6969
@ButtHoleLVR6969 8 ай бұрын
Props to Karl and Muta for donating $600K to dementia research this year!!
@TheWanderer2287
@TheWanderer2287 8 ай бұрын
I’m not surprised projared backed out lmao. That guy has NO GROUND TO STAND ON
@ryukami404
@ryukami404 8 ай бұрын
The replies to that tweet were pretty much that lol. Either that or "This should be the last person to make baseless accusations."
@LordVonZas
@LordVonZas 8 ай бұрын
Nice recap dude, you saved a lot of time!
@vibespidersstudios8895
@vibespidersstudios8895 8 ай бұрын
To be honest, the anonymous person or group of people tipped Karl first to investigate this and Karl bringing Muta along is how it all started. A lot of people forget this is not drama it is a lot on the low end nothing will happen and the paper work is file properly or on the worst end it is possibility/alleged criminal accusations and misleading trust into the people who believed doing the greater good. Though I know this will blow over once all the paper trail is put out and it will show where the money went. In the end It just put a hole of trust of the citizens donating to a charity or an organization. Just saying as a fact that people are going to be distrustful where their money is actually helping people. That is kinda the real impact here.
@persomiissleepy
@persomiissleepy 8 ай бұрын
Personally I feel like this situation is quickly going to hell in a hand basket too fast kinda like the incident with ProJerod. There's way too much blood in the murky waters and everything is going south, it's the main reason why I try to stay out of this stuff and distance myself. God with this being the second time this happened to a Normal Boots member. It makes me wonder if somehow in a few years PeanutButterGamer or DYKGaming is going to get hit with the drama bat, and that idea scares me.
@ataraxxx
@ataraxxx 8 ай бұрын
@@persomiissleepy Are PBG and DYKGaming criminals?
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 8 ай бұрын
@@persomiissleepy Charity fraud spanning a decade is not 'drama'. Get offline.
@cosmonauthal7651
@cosmonauthal7651 8 ай бұрын
This is NOTHING like what happened with ProJerod. One was a he said she said accusations over the internet that didn't help much weight in the end. This is legit negligence with over 500,000 dollars worth of money and at worst criminal fraud. This isn't "drama" this is actually important that we see where the money went.@@persomiissleepy
@persomiissleepy
@persomiissleepy 8 ай бұрын
@@ataraxxx No I'm just seeing a pattern and it makes me scared also I never said that they did anything wrong.
@deatheternal720
@deatheternal720 8 ай бұрын
him getting so angry and butthurt in the explanation video was so freaking ridiculous. he clearly was trying to pocket it and was upset he got caught. I was a huge fan of TC. I wouldn't doubt it if he put it in an account and let it gain interest and took the interest.
@evolutia1
@evolutia1 8 ай бұрын
In Muta's new video, Jirard even thanks both of them (Muta and Karl) for bringing this to his attention on their discord call. So you thank them, then sue them?
@deatheternal720
@deatheternal720 8 ай бұрын
lol @@evolutia1
@GikamesShadow
@GikamesShadow 8 ай бұрын
@@evolutia1 He wants to sue them for defamation. They brought it up to him in private. Its a whole different case when they make what amounts to "Drama"videos for a lack of a better term. And dont tell me they arent that. Most of the internet doesnt treat them any different. And putting these videos out there over just filing reports on their own was incredibly irresponsible of the two. Yes it does open them up for a lawsuit. Cause here is the thing: If he ISNT a fraud, they have just tarnished his reputation entirely, more so than not donating the money had done. Thats the problem here. No one cares if they got him to donate. They still used their influence to force something that didnt need to be handled publicly. They could have made reports, let it be handled legally and made videos after. He would have gone down IF HE IS a fraud and the issue would have been dealt with cleanly. But they didnt do that. They weaponized their audiences. Karl more so than Muta.
@ryukami404
@ryukami404 8 ай бұрын
@@GikamesShadow If you think there's anyway The Completionist has a shot at winning a defamation lawsuit after everything has been posted, you're delusional.
@789know
@789know 8 ай бұрын
​​@@GikamesShadowIt is technically a fraud tho since him claiming donating to bunch of charity that he never donated to until now It suit the legal definition of charity fraud. Also exposing a wrong doing publicly isn't defamatory in itself,. especially when that wrong doing is proven to be true. TC don't have a case if what karl and muta say is proven true in court.
@damonlam9145
@damonlam9145 8 ай бұрын
Honestly all of this mess could have been avoided if Jirad just show everyone the proof to prove his point and not try to hide it from anyone but he just had to make an apology that gave us unnecessary articles and attack the people that exposed him. Even if everything he said was true, he still deserves to be called out for his mistakes to prevent this problem from happening again.
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 8 ай бұрын
That he hasn't shown any proof, only spoken about having 'receipts', whereas Karl & Muta actually showed receipts, says it all.
@Adalon-
@Adalon- 8 ай бұрын
Did no one watch his video or use the links he provided? The actual fuck?
@TheJadeFist
@TheJadeFist 8 ай бұрын
Actually at this point, had he done that, he'd be admitting to have committed crimes. Which means if he goes before a court, he can't defend himself.
@adrianstefaniak7584
@adrianstefaniak7584 8 ай бұрын
@@Adalon- watched response added document actually create more questions or are totally useless in this situation....
@Nick-zm2vm
@Nick-zm2vm 8 ай бұрын
And he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling KZbinrs!
@Case_Productions
@Case_Productions 8 ай бұрын
Keep up the BANGER content GFM! Been really digging your levelheaded takes and your documentaries! Love to see a new vid in the feed 👍
@TheCGA
@TheCGA 8 ай бұрын
12:20 Per the tax returns, the money was not sitting in an interest bearing account. This is reflected in $0 in interest revenue on every tax return!
@markbaker4425
@markbaker4425 8 ай бұрын
So just completely eaten by inflation then?
@CirnoFairy
@CirnoFairy 8 ай бұрын
@@markbaker4425 yes.
@TheCGA
@TheCGA 8 ай бұрын
@@markbaker4425 Devoured by inflation my dude.
@BrandonDenny-we1rw
@BrandonDenny-we1rw 8 ай бұрын
I mean. Just because you filed that thats whats in the account doesnt mean you actually kept the money in the account. Especially if you need to transfer over 500k from your personal account back into the charity account so you can payout the donation finally. If we could see the bank statements that would be proof. A tax filing isnt proof
@TehWhiteTiger
@TehWhiteTiger 8 ай бұрын
The fact they gave three completely different explanations in their own words is damning enough without any other evidence. "We haven't decided on a charity but are open to suggestions" "Jared had no idea it hadn't been donated until recently!" "We were saving it all up to make a more significant donations." The fact they have no straight story screams they are hiding more we have yet to see.
@mementomori5985
@mementomori5985 8 ай бұрын
been waiting for you to document this tale from the internet
@KaoruMzk
@KaoruMzk 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait for Karl's response next weekend. Bro is *angry* Edit: it's out, and it was even more savage than what I was expecting.
@Micchi-
@Micchi- 8 ай бұрын
Ring that notification bell
@Crow_Rising
@Crow_Rising 8 ай бұрын
The thing that doesn't make sense to me is if he didn't do anything wrong then why puff his chest out towards Karl and Muta? They've been very careful to not outright accuse him of any wrongdoing and are simply acting as whistleblowers that something shady MIGHT be going on and should be investigated. If he's truly innocent, shouldn't his behavior be less aggressive towards those who are simply speaking out about something looking suspicious? It just makes it look like he actually does have something to hide and is trying to defend it from leaking.
@blank3041
@blank3041 8 ай бұрын
Him threatening to sue is practically career suicide.
@TheJadeFist
@TheJadeFist 8 ай бұрын
Ya, that makes him look really bad, which is impressive after having committed charity fraud.
@tray6662
@tray6662 8 ай бұрын
This made me sad. I really liked The Completionist
@deeplydownside
@deeplydownside 8 ай бұрын
Same here. This is awful.
@kamarichristie4346
@kamarichristie4346 8 ай бұрын
​@@deeplydownsideno proof he's innocent
@Xigzagamer
@Xigzagamer 8 ай бұрын
@@kamarichristie4346 Jirard's own words are enough proof that he was NOT innocent. He's been lying about donating and who he's been donating to for years.
@AvengingN00b
@AvengingN00b 8 ай бұрын
@@kamarichristie4346 no matter the results of any investigation it at least has been confirmed he's a scumbag using her dead mother's name to make money
@69nites
@69nites 8 ай бұрын
I guess I'm also a major funding partner of university of San Francisco. I've also contributed $0 to them.
@Jmerithew87
@Jmerithew87 8 ай бұрын
The final nail in the coffin for me was going to the AFTD website and seeing that literally anyone can do a restricted donation of any amount with a few clicks. That shows the whole argument of years of “discussion” to properly do a restricted donation are BS. There’s no solid proof that there was theft, but this is absolutely misappropriation, which still meets the definition of embezzlement.
@JohnDoe-uf3lj
@JohnDoe-uf3lj 8 ай бұрын
I do really wonder how many indie devs will still wanna partner with him after this. He was respected and loved, and to throw that all away is pretty sad. Even if he does donate the money and extra, I don’t know that anyone is going to trust him. I wonder if this will be an illuminataughti situation where his channel dies or if he walks it off and people keep watching. 🤷‍♂️
@artoriasoftheabyss1495
@artoriasoftheabyss1495 8 ай бұрын
It's not that strange. The guy is a liar and committed charity fraud. Pretty simple.
@TuckerLeeC
@TuckerLeeC 8 ай бұрын
Wrong.
@killianlile173
@killianlile173 8 ай бұрын
​@@TuckerLeeCKeep simping for an online personality dude
@anthonyg5001
@anthonyg5001 8 ай бұрын
@@TuckerLeeC*correct
@nykthosacolyte5710
@nykthosacolyte5710 8 ай бұрын
​@@TuckerLeeCit's literally true.
@dunkvato
@dunkvato 8 ай бұрын
​@@TuckerLeeCNo matter how much of a cornerstone of your life Jirard is, he won't let you touch his beard.
@Tungchu92
@Tungchu92 8 ай бұрын
If he was never called out, he would have never have donated it... And he has the nerve to try to sue the people who called him out is such a scream of "I am guilty". Imagine you donated 600k yourself to him, and to only find out 10 years later that he JUST donated. You would be livid.
@AntiFreak321
@AntiFreak321 8 ай бұрын
Whats often forgotten and its driving me mad. Jirard has been very successful on KZbin for over a decade, Its not only realistic but likely for him to be millionaire. I Think he just donated his personal money to dodge this shit.
@longhairedcello4109
@longhairedcello4109 8 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly
@andrewjames7438
@andrewjames7438 8 ай бұрын
That’s what gets me. If you’re a millionaire from KZbin, why steal the charity money? I don’t get greed like that.
@skachor
@skachor 8 ай бұрын
Open hand foundation is turning into a very prescient name.
@LapsisDeus13
@LapsisDeus13 8 ай бұрын
*jirard* : i wouldve gotten away with it if it wasnt for those meddling youtubers
@bowtiesarerad
@bowtiesarerad 8 ай бұрын
Jared rushing to the aid of Jirard was funny. Didn't Jirard throw Jared under the bus when his controversy came out a few years ago?
@puppetgeneral39
@puppetgeneral39 8 ай бұрын
2:30 "The money was just resting in my account!" - Father Ted
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 8 ай бұрын
Nothing more pathetic than fraud involving video games.
@PhonePhone-sf8te
@PhonePhone-sf8te 8 ай бұрын
I agree, that's why I don't give bethesda or ubisoft or activision any money.
@brianmurphy250
@brianmurphy250 8 ай бұрын
No, nothing worse than fraud involving charities meant for kids & victims, ect.
@mossadagent2664
@mossadagent2664 8 ай бұрын
@@PhonePhone-sf8teadd those money hungry Microsoft fellas to that list.
@PhonePhone-sf8te
@PhonePhone-sf8te 8 ай бұрын
@@mossadagent2664 Oh I definitely thought about them right after I hit the button.
@Krexel
@Krexel 8 ай бұрын
Idk, starting a "charity" in the name of your dead mom is a bit worse to me
@user-ft8gj3rh9v
@user-ft8gj3rh9v 8 ай бұрын
Why are the idiots the ones who always threaten lawsuits? If the was going to do it he would have instead of threatening and it's clear he didn't look into it and wanted to make a threat because any lawyer would let him know that opens Jirard up to discovery which there is no way he doesn't want to deal with that.
@pjd418
@pjd418 8 ай бұрын
it really is idiotic. but in the minds of those who do is just to try to scare them off hoping they will go away. most people like muta and carl don't take threats lightly and it will just make it worse for them
@MrMoonbearX
@MrMoonbearX 8 ай бұрын
"He opened by apologising to all those who had donated for misleading them" no he didn't. "I'm sorry YOU FEEL you were misled" is not an apology. That's a deflection. With this wording, it's the viewers fault they FELT misled, not Jirards. It's classic gaslighting, harm somebody and then when you are finally forced to apologize, subtly blame them for their reaction instead of your own actions. I know it's probably a small thing for a lot of people but this is the thing that broke the camels back for me. Had he come out and said "I was manipulated by my family/other members of Open Hand and didn't know what to do" I might have been able to respect him and eventually forgive him, providing he helped right the wrongs, but he didn't. He doubled down. He's still lying. He's still manipulating.
@ethanphillips800
@ethanphillips800 8 ай бұрын
I feel like something big that was missed in the video was that Jirrard said multiple times during promotion for his Charity that ALL funds would go to Charity and that they take NOTHING. For multiple years. And now he is backtracking stating that they used the money to cover costs.
@JoseVRKaiju
@JoseVRKaiju 8 ай бұрын
I know everyone say the same but since last video you look in an incredible shape. Congratulations! Keep with the good and hard work 🎉
@cloudydays6374
@cloudydays6374 8 ай бұрын
Jirard is probably just pissed his retirement fund is gone now that he got caught
@preator_vallum6377
@preator_vallum6377 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I didn't think he was a bad person, just an idiot, up until he threatened to sue. Bro 's lashing out like a child.
@upcdownsyleftsyrightc
@upcdownsyleftsyrightc 8 ай бұрын
"The allegations that have been made, have been made with complete disregard for the truth of the matter". This was entirely to uncover the truth of the matter. Replay value on his response is a 10. Everytime you play the video you discover a new absolutely ridiculous quote. I love it.
@SebastianTheGreat
@SebastianTheGreat 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Muta and Karl, for calling out Jirard’s bullshit and getting him to finally make their first donation in their entire 10-year existence. Hopefully the IRS can pry away the rest of the charity money from Jirard and his family’s fat, greasy fingers
@chuckrivas3746
@chuckrivas3746 8 ай бұрын
Jirard had the love of the public and their trust, the problem is he spoke too much, and not consistently at that. I wanted to believe this was all a rookie mistake, but all the lines go to the same place
@longhairedcello4109
@longhairedcello4109 8 ай бұрын
i want to believe him, i just cant. i dont even like looking at him anymore, despite the glorious beard
@ganymedehedgehog371
@ganymedehedgehog371 8 ай бұрын
Well a mistake would have been one or two years but to make an annual “clerical error” and lying for a decade just shows criminal negligence at best. He says he didn’t want money lost in overhead but spent money in overhead himself. If he actually believed in not paying overhead he would have personally donated the overhead expenditures. He’s a thief and that’s that.
@Leafwink
@Leafwink 8 ай бұрын
My father in law has been doing tax evasion on his small business for over ten years. The IRS didn't caught this until he had a divorce. Just because you didn't get caught by the IRS does not mean you are not doing anything wrong.
@Antagonist115
@Antagonist115 8 ай бұрын
This is the first video I’ve watched from you and god FUCKING DAMN, you make catching up with drama super simple, the way you calmly and firstly speak the facts of each side with no narrative of your own being stated is commendable asf, thank you, definitely subscribing
@guillermocortes4415
@guillermocortes4415 8 ай бұрын
10:23 "His brother took to Reddit, making snarky refernces to Suing Muta and Karl." People rush to defend Jirard as a good guy, but his brother seems like an a-hole that has been planning this scam for YEARS.
@GikamesShadow
@GikamesShadow 8 ай бұрын
The more I learn about this, the more I feel genuinly that his family is using Jirard. I still dont believe that he is in on it. Something just doesnt add up.
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 8 ай бұрын
The way his fellow gaming KZbinrs rushed to publicly defend him, even after it was confirmed Jirard and co had been sitting on the money and claiming otherwise, was honestly so bizarre and depressing. Especially after Jirard’s angry faced threats of lawsuits. The whole thing has left me with a lot less respect for a number of people in the gaming community.
@_Ekaros
@_Ekaros 8 ай бұрын
Just goes to show me that many of these people are on the level of gamin journalist... Always circling the wagons, even if criticism is valid.
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 8 ай бұрын
ProJared saying saying they did no "due diligence" is absolutely insane considering what happened to him
@AdamMckeithan
@AdamMckeithan 8 ай бұрын
Sad thing is this mostly dealing with KZbin/internet people. Give it a few months no one will remember the scam
@CZsWorld
@CZsWorld 8 ай бұрын
What about the current Daxflame controversy? That has to be one of the strangest.
@p3wter0
@p3wter0 8 ай бұрын
Who tf is daxflame that name sounds so familiar yet i cant pick up where
@Sofia-re4ix
@Sofia-re4ix 8 ай бұрын
Whats the issue with him? Is he a Soy?
@Mashita_Kills77
@Mashita_Kills77 8 ай бұрын
Idk where to begin to understand that super strange indeed
@naenae2350
@naenae2350 8 ай бұрын
​@@p3wter0the day 31 superman humiliation at school
@ricardomiles2957
@ricardomiles2957 8 ай бұрын
​@@naenae2350so... what happened?
@Bowblax2
@Bowblax2 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I'm really liking these comprehensive recaps of internet controversies that you've been making recently
@WilfrePancakes
@WilfrePancakes 8 ай бұрын
Sup Bowblax
@ComicXanz
@ComicXanz 8 ай бұрын
Yo its BoyBaxs!!
@devinsauls9137
@devinsauls9137 8 ай бұрын
Hi Bowblax 👋🏿
@daviddesrosiers1946
@daviddesrosiers1946 8 ай бұрын
So, he's gonna sue because his apparent scam charity got exposed and it cost them $600,000. Nothing will convince me that money was destined for anyone but their own pockets.
@SerpentineDeity
@SerpentineDeity 8 ай бұрын
And he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those dastardly reporters.
@silverbandit721
@silverbandit721 8 ай бұрын
All I’m saying is the money finally found a home once a fire was lit under Jirad’s ass. 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿
@kitten3589
@kitten3589 8 ай бұрын
When she KZbin on my controversies
@eyeYT
@eyeYT 8 ай бұрын
till i subscribe
@AngerMaker413
@AngerMaker413 8 ай бұрын
“I was made aware in 2021 the money wasn’t moving and that’s when I go ‘that’s not fu**in cool’” *money sits for another two years without being moved*
@nworder4life
@nworder4life 8 ай бұрын
2022, keep listening, he corrected himself.
@Manofwar701
@Manofwar701 8 ай бұрын
Great Projared could come defend the completionist but left JonTron high and dry when he was in the public's eye.
@statesminds
@statesminds 8 ай бұрын
I dont like his tone and how aggressive he was trying to sue. He lied about where money was going and if muta and karl didnt bring it to public the money would have never been donated.. idk how people are like hes such a good guy and these are just drama KZbinrs. I liked the completionist but nah f this
@ajunglen
@ajunglen 8 ай бұрын
Jirard probably donated the money to a shell company he owns. Sounds about right for someone trying to monetize his own mothers death. Shes turning in her grave.
@dogbackwards7658
@dogbackwards7658 8 ай бұрын
Fr. Profiting from his dead mother's memory with all the PR this charity brought him was one thing. But now to use her again as a sympathy shield to cover his ass is even more disgusting. He keeps bringing up his dead mother so much it seems like a clear manipulation tactic now.
@nolife6013
@nolife6013 8 ай бұрын
That's what makes me really hate him is when he plays with your emotions and makes you feel like you’re the asshole and he's the victim when in reality it's vice versa.
@kinsan89
@kinsan89 8 ай бұрын
12:20 it wasn't even a LOW interest account, it was a NO interest account
@pineapplepizzasandwich1974
@pineapplepizzasandwich1974 8 ай бұрын
It doesnt matter what he says or how much he donates now. Name dropping specific charities over and over when he demonstrably did not donate anything IS PER DEFINITION charity fraud, which is a crime.
@theanimeditor6400
@theanimeditor6400 8 ай бұрын
i wonder why the specific charites never sued him
@DeathCrunch
@DeathCrunch 8 ай бұрын
Careful dude, hes going to sue you for claiming he stole 3/4 of a million dollars for a charity he lied about giving money too while pocketing $100k for expenses and only actually donating after a decade after being threatened with legal action. Hes tote legit.
@Micchi-
@Micchi- 8 ай бұрын
This could've easily avoided if only jirard said "I forgor 💀"
@GreyWish_
@GreyWish_ 8 ай бұрын
s'wut i'm sayin
@TheJadeFist
@TheJadeFist 8 ай бұрын
I don't know if Strange is the word I'd use here...
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 8 ай бұрын
Jirard explaining the difference between "restricted and unrestricted" donations make him look worse, in my opinion, because it's low key calling everyone who has questions morons for not understanding how charities work, especially for how it's "legal" for charities to hold money for years without donating, like it's somehow the donators fault for not understanding how the system works
@michaelhockaday7426
@michaelhockaday7426 8 ай бұрын
The Completionist? Oh wait. You mean The Con Pletionist.
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