The STRONGEST Melee Duelist In Rivals

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[@TheTrueStrongest]

2:14 "idk if penni is S tier" followed by him getting his ult shut down by a skill she has every 3 seconds is poetic ngl

[@benzhq563]

Against divers maybe. He meant this for awhile a good hitscan pick will make penni bad to pick. Best to pick shields

[@tonykuz]

Ermmm it was 18 seconds 🤓

[@RafEntropy]

Understanding the difference from being an s tier char compared to just hard countering a character is why ur diamond lil bro

[@TheTrueStrongest]

@ I was actually diamond last season because I started late and I haven’t even played comp this season yet Penni is 100% s tier though she has some of the best movement of any tank an insane low cooldown stun good damage output and her mines are a one shot if you know what ur doing if u don’t know how to play her just say that

[@thereisa6inthename]

Wow, the cringe.

[@psychicsidekick4198]

"i don't think Peni is S tier" *gets fucking deleted multiple times by her on an S tier hero*

[@SplitSeoul]

Just need team to delete spider trap and it’s free af

[@winky4375]

@@SplitSeoultbf this vid showed multiple times that it’s not always easy to do that. if ur playing spidey and the supports sit in the nest u legit just have to rely on your shooter guys to kill it, which isn’t always possible if they have to get out of position for it. also necros died multiple times/ got denied by peni’s web

[@choppie5385]

@@winky4375 becuase penni is exactly a counter to most melee dps, get a ranged dps and she does get nearly as much damage

[@carnivorousplant5772]

@@winky43751 nevros doesn’t talk to team to comm much and this was before he started running Wolverine. If penny isn’t looking at you it’s fucking free as shit. Even if she is looking at you it’s a grab on the spider trap anyways

[@theskyman1808]

Not only they nerfed black panther, but they didn’t fix his bug where you dash into someone with vibranium mark and you don’t get your dash back…

[@XyzStlo]

yeah, the no-reg, i hate that.

[@AsrtdBast]

Yea it's so annoying, basically makes him unplayable.

[@re1gn.]

FOR REAL BRUH

[@redberries1108]

Oh no wonder why I’m raging out when I obviously hit the most pinpoint dash and missing thinking I was just bad

[@elliottamini9872]

Am i the only one who felt his resets were worse recently, I'm plat 1 and have 10 clips on my pc of the Dashes not resetting, i feel like he needs a quality of life patch

[@djibrilsene7788]

I am glad I am not the only one. I thought it was skill issue but I believe it really is bugged

[@emilo9]

they have to fix the no regs

[@Rock-vk9ei]

Cannot lie that shit is deserved but I’d rather he gets nerfed instead of a bug doing the job

[@POW-du3st]

​@@Rock-vk9eiHe already got nerfed relax😭 I main him

[@POW-du3st]

The Dash resets are less common for me with his little twirl kick combo move, other than that the ult and spears are pretty consistent (the ult is still the most consistent out of both).

[@Adamreada]

I rarely comment on peoples videos, especially people I’ve rarely watched. Dude your epic, much admiration to you. No LEDs, no obnoxious gamer setup or flashiness, using earphones with the main room light on. You deserve being this good because that’s the only thing the focus is on, not over extending your ego. Pure vibes and cracked gameplay

[@Kimikou7200]

They nerf spiderman but doesnt fix the free 2 headshots with the stun Edit: all i did was say mantis stun is also broken its not that serious and none of you even brung it up 😭😭

[@sirdapperdan2209]

What nerfs did spidey get? Didn't see anything about him in the patch notes

[@Yuh-ss]

@@sirdapperdan2209 can’t animations cancel

[@marcovazquez-ou2pv]

It wasn't a nerf, it was a fix. An exploit that people abused and now it's patched. What nerf did he get?

[@fluffffycat]

@@marcovazquez-ou2pv you are dumb or ragebaiting, both are very sad

[@alexlicks0209]

@@marcovazquez-ou2pv animation cancels are used on many heroes to attack faster. meleeing inbetween shots on chars like groot and strange double their damage output close range, but spiderman's cancel had to be perfectly executed just to deal double damage to someone who HAD TO be on the ground for it to work somewhat consistently. imo, unnecessary change when many other heroes also animation cancel. magiks animation cancels are absurdly good, yet she sees buffs in s1. just an unexpected nerf to spidermans skill ceiling, imo

[@omerfirer1312]

You should mention this video is from season 0 before Bp got nerfed

[@lovedeepsandhu8502]

I cant believe they didnt address the mantis ult charge rate

[@Ananomos]

Whats up with her Ult?

[@dekyne3227]

​@@Ananomosit charges pretty fast can even activate twice in a long enough battle

[@Nargycu]

​@@dekyne3227Shit, that thing charges like, five times in a 10 minute battle

[@kami3449]

Lol bruh that's an Strategist thing not just a Mantis thing. All Strategist earn there ult fast than dps and tanks.

[@ireallydontknow278]

​@@kami3449exactly because they get charge from 2 different sources While tanks and DPS both get charge from dealing damage Supports can get charge from damage and healing Meaning they basically have a total of 11 targets to possibly get ult out of While DPS and tank only have 6 because they can't damage their own team

[@Easton-h2r]

You did not put the tickle monster as the number one melee- dualist

[@firewater3957]

Bro forgot fr fr

[@elephantguy0790]

Well you either have: Tickle Monster (Panther) Get one kill and die (spider man) Somehow worse than the last 2 (Magik) Tank kidnapper (Wolverine) Does negative damage (iron fist)

[@StealthSW]

Panther and Wolverine on par then Magik is a close second believe it or not Spiderman is third needs more health or some health regen as a melee character And fourth is iron fist who needs a rework

[@EdwardENigma-cg3kt]

He’s the best for sure but he’s EXTREMELY skill based. He’s extremely unforgiving, requires great positioning, timing, reflexes, and overall game sense to be successful. On top of all that he’s very counterable you force a lot of ccs yeah but dying over and over again only for you team to get rolled anyway isn’t fun. He can be a blender in the right scenarios but he’s very punishing to learn.

[@xavmarz755]

Nah he's super easy to play. I've been abusing him and I get free mvp every game, im ass on anything else

[@fabolousjada5070]

@@xavmarz755too young bro. Everyone in my group I notice is talented with someone I’m not. Like I main cloak and my boy plays mantis and we can’t play with each others healers unstuck at mantis he sucks at cloak in high level games

[@AnishDebnath9]

Which explains why he has such a low pick rate and mediocre win rate.

[@FunForMyWorld]

he's got a very low skill ceiling, there isn't really much to learn on him. what you descripted can be applied to mostly any duelist...

[@alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289]

In order to play him reactively, maybe. Most people just wait until they have all of their cooldowns ready use them all on one person then leave. It isn't rocket science to get value out of him. In most cases you won't have to keep track of who has marks on them. But the few actually good BP's are able to play without all of their cooldowns available.

[@JustGeeked]

Spiderman spiderman does whatever a spider can

[@Fergala00]

I can't believe they actually nerfed black panther to the ground but didn't touch mantis or Luna snow and they added a unkillable dps and a unkillable healer to the game as well. And buffed Black Panthers counters.

[@Drake-em3yd]

Black panther nerf was a smudge it didn't do too much 💔

[@ireallydontknow278]

Nerfed to the ground? Bro are you dumb They legit took like 25 health from his shields he gains when doing combos That isn't going to change shit about panther He's still going to be a menace Because that 25 health doesn't matter when he's dashing through you 25 times And also they did touch mantis She's significantly slower now meaning she will have a harder time escaping And Mr fantastic and the invisible woman are not unkillable Sure Mr fantastic is tanky but he can still die because when he gets tanky hr also gains the hitbox of a tank I just don't think you know what the hell you are talking about Especially since the end to panther doesn't even affect his combos or his killing potential Inky his survivability is going to be slightly worse

[@LVN-b9h]

pushing the easy heroes is chalked

[@ScheffCity]

BP might be the best melee duelist.. But Psylocke got the cheeks 🔥

[@marcovazquez-ou2pv]

Pixels on a screen lil bro, they aren't real

[@ajoe.8461]

​@marcovazquez-ou2pv ngas doing anything to believe bro 😭

[@macky453]

Psylocke ain’t really melee tho also, psylocke is better than panther imo

[@whambulance8607]

And Magik has a great cake

[@Fergala00]

​@@marcovazquez-ou2pv hot women aren't real either

[@jakebennett8601]

Plugs kinda chill, keeps welcoming me to Panther City though

[@mochaman29]

I think Mantis sleep needs to be easy to land because of the mobility available in this game. They should just increase the cooldown to make it more punishing to use.

[@Bodo69Boss]

7:16.

[@marcovazquez-ou2pv]

Squirrel Girls and Lunas Stun needs to be aimed but not Hela's and Mantis'. It needs to be consistent

[@mochaman29]

@@marcovazquez-ou2pv Mantis is a strategist with no escape tools. Squirrel Girl has her leap and Hela has her crow form.

[@marcovazquez-ou2pv]

@@mochaman29 funny how you didn't mention the fact that Mantis had 275 health and a passive that makes her run faster and she can damage boost herself, not only that but Luna needs to actually aim hers. And Squirrel Girls leap only helps her against melee threats, you are basically initiating a PGTI scenario by doing the leap and any competent aimer can gun you down.

[@mochaman29]

@@marcovazquez-ou2pv She needs something when shes being dove. Try hitting BP with Ana sleep dart. Just make the cooldown longer, problem solved.

[@Renmakesshorts]

“I don’t this Peni is S tier” my man says this about almost every character at this point

[@lamparo7028]

3:16 The unluckiest man ive ever seen

[@sandinosanchez2224]

I hope you’re able to make a Panther guide at some point. I’m still struggling with my own Panther work despite putting a lot of time into him.

[@Woteeeee]

Bruh there's no way he's still milking his subathon vods a WHOLE MONTH after it, even game's 1st season started yet vids are from month old streams. Like current highlights from games he gets now will be on this channel when there's what, season 3 starting?

[@HighestJedi]

ALL HAIL KING NECROS

[@curlstick8448]

The tickle monster strikes again

[@kaietwhoo]

hey can any1 explain to me on 3:43 he dash through the air and still have dash reset?

[@bobbypappas1770]

its the hitbox, he hit magik with it

[@niz6925]

Should I keep mailing black panther or change to someone else because of the nerf

[@KOTOBOD]

You could mail him for sure, but he doesn't answer 😭. Any character is playable rn bro, especially panther

[@KayCee._.]

Just cause they nerf your character doesn't mean you have to stop playing them. Play who you enjoy, games are meant to be fun

[@evanallison8063]

Honestly, as Panther main myself, the nerf affected him badly, only in one area though, escaping already engaged fights. Yes, the drawback to 75 bonus health is big, but if your team is confident (supports mainly) you should be able to get out alive with a little bit of map knowledge. Health packs are your best friend in most cases though, mainly if you dive backline looking for picks.

[@StealthSW]

The nerf is mainly 10 less shield, when were you truly getting up to 425 hp off just panther dashes, The 375 change isn’t as crazy as people make it out to be. Still a nerf but not nearly as bad as it seems. Panther had too much survivability against supports so they nerfed it a bit. Keep playing him if you find him fun because he is still top 3 melee duelists at least probably (2nd best melee duelist behind Wolverine or on par with Wolverine)

[@legacydrako4500]

spiderman isnt playable in high elo really​@@KOTOBOD

[@Smartem_]

Ain't no way bro uploaded 3 weeks old footage

[@_Rhatsody]

necros really is the 🤓☝ um actually guy, personified /affectionately

[@zandy.ds345]

Necros what pc do you use?

[@Vortex-is9wt]

The fact they nerfed panther and not psylocke i abysmal

[@ireallydontknow278]

They did need psy Her ultimate now focuses on shields as well So for example now a full health strange can actually survive a psy ult if he has his shield up as the shield will take every other hit (So for example the shield gets hit-> strange getting hit-> shield getting hit repeat until ultimate is over) Before a full health strange could not survive a psy ult now he survives with 50 HP And any other Barriers will do the same so magneto shields and bubbles Hulk bubbles Sue storms shield And so on

[@RandomAwesomeDude]

11:43 The way Magneto looks up is suspicious af. Necro definitely got pinged, but the flick and the weird deceleration throws me off a bit

[@carsonsanders9347]

I’ve said since launch that mantis sleep is too easy to hit.

[@sl1ckr1ck63]

Quick question if anyone can help me out. There's multiple times when I get a hitmarker with my spear and the spinning kick and my dash doesn't reset. Anyone know if this is a bug?

[@Drake-em3yd]

It happens it's a bug or sometimes u hit ur dash before u hit them with spear marker

[@sl1ckr1ck63]

@Drake-em3yd i always wait until it hits and it still won't reset. But when I see other people play him on youtube it never fails for them

[@kyuu452]

What's the outro music?

[@corinna-s2h]

Looks like Were gona get the bat out again

[@coldstrydes5306]

How does the reset on Panther's second dash work ? Do i have to ASSIST on an elimination or get one ?

[@rayleigh2086]

same question

[@tinymtf]

Neither, you mark someone with the spear or the ultimate and if you hit the dash then it resets

[@AlphaChopstick]

He marks you with a spear, kick or ult. Then dashing thru someone with a mark gives you a reset that refresh the dash

[@tinymtf]

You have to hit the marked person with a dash to get the reset but the spear and utilmate is an AOE ability which is why you can get multiple dash resets sometimes

[@tinymtf]

If you look at necros while he is playing you will notice he always throws the spear first to get the dash reset

[@RB26N]

Support seriously needs damage nerf or melee close combat risky characters need HP / shield buff , spidey dies in instant if he is 0.1 sec late to swing. He seriously can't kill full hp healer even after using all of his tools , and his cooldown are so long which essentially means your team is 5v6 until you get your cooldown. Psylock needs to reset her dash after kill otherwise its used to escape or reposition tool 90% of the time.

[@Vortex-is9wt]

3:17 why is he not lord?

[@ireallydontknow278]

Apparently these are clips from a month ago I can't confirm I'm not really a Necros watcher but someone said these clips are from like a month ago

[@captain4865]

How did bro get his dash back he didnt even hit anyone 3:45

[@Tom100555]

there was a magik behind that mini pilar

[@Drake-em3yd]

The luna and mantisdid not wanna get clipped by you

[@wakanddaforever2515]

This is before the nerf

[@reetox4986]

man that with psylock was 100 on you xd. Dashing into 5 face forward instead of dashing into the air like u do with genji and then ulting

[@Champuru2]

time to change penni on that tier list bubba

[@King-wc6bl]

*Logang has entered the chat *

[@AM-bm9rs]

his melee should do more damage

[@ALMOSTNKKD]

Man this Panther skin is not it for me personally

[@crackedblack1410]

Bro pls delete this video… they‘ll nerf him again😭😭😭😭

[@Fergala00]

This video is before the nerfs

[@NickTheHokage]

This your moment to get as big as Tim streamer wise. Keep going.

[@mediumgentium]

its because they nerfed him?

[@saudmubarak1542]

He got nerfed, Magic is the best now

[@choppie5385]

wolverine is better

[@Drake-em3yd]

hell naw

[@ireallydontknow278]

​@choppie5385fr Wolverine on top [Insert the howl from maroon 5 animals here]

[@nexonflowers2728]

Black Panther

[@xmusicasolamente4009]

is welcome to wakanda

[@anicoubtv8287]

Finally nerfed that op char

[@Hlcasti0]

Jenkins wtf is this

[@toondrax2180]

NAH SOLO ULT THZ LUNA IS DEVIOUS EVEN FOR YOU

[@caylanterry3565]

ITS MAGIK STOP CAPPINGGGGGGGG

[@coderedtv2870]

even with the bp nerf her slow ass is nowhere near him I am afraid

[@caylanterry3565]

@ with the addition of reed, brawl comps are definitely strong as shit rn which you dont need tp be fast for, plus who needs to be fast when u have invincibility frames

[@eebbaa5560]

@@caylanterry3565 you need to be fast because there's so much counterplay against melee heroes with burst healing and cc that's why black panther is better he does more damage at a faster rate than magik does

[@arn1345]

@@eebbaa5560 i honestly think Magik is overrated. Good, but overrated.

[@ireallydontknow278]

​@@caylanterry3565magik is way easier to hit though because she has way more predictable movement A panther goes trough you like 5 times But a magik can't go trough you So if you see her coming you can easily react with a stun or a movement ability but panthers goes so fast that it's extremely hard to react to And you can't stun him nearly as easily as you can with magik (Also magik players kinda suck ass Like legit once I killed a magic who was in melee range and at the start of the fight I was like a 100 HP and I still killed her for reference she was at full HP)

[@AzulACR]

This ain’t magik bud

[@smilo7395]

defintely see how this is a 5 star difficulty mechanicaly advanced very much skill dependend fun champ to play, and yes I hate her from the bottom of my heart.

[@jasonruff1270]

All the melee characters in this game are trash

[@Odd150]

This dude is boring to watch

[@ginocarrasco3432]

Id gap you pather 1v1 now😤

[@jeremiahdewayne6007]

First