The SUFFERING BASTARD & the epic story of the man who made it

[@AndersErickson]

Bourbon or Cognac? Or do you prefer Trader Vic's version?

[@parkinglot2642]

Cognac myself. But trader vic had a big brain moment with the rock candy syrup. Not sure if that’s truly the original trader vic (OG TV, if you will) but it’s 👌🏽👌🏽

[@frann.8879]

Hi Anders….I love how you narrate the story about Joe!👌👌👌 👏👏👏…I lean on the side of cognac!….a lovely drink!😁😁❤️❤️ Have a great weekend and as always “CHEERS!”🥰🥰🥰

[@Rednilsunwood]

Rye with a very spicy ginger! Haven’t had Vic’s yet but I do love anything with Orgeat typically. I’ve seen this with lime cordial as well which is super interesting. Very fun drink to do little riffs and substitutions for.

[@fredrikstad01]

Gonna try the bourbon one next weekend😉 Btw, what kind of mint do you guys use over there? Is that Peppermint? I watch How To Drink too and he too allways got these luscious sprigs of mint in the drinks. Here in Norway we only got either Spearmint or Greenmint (that's atleast what we call it) and it just looks like s**t. It's like two leaves every inch and just got allmost no mint taste. I can get a lot of different mints to grow, but it's a hassle when I can't even keep a cactus alive😂

[@christinecamley]

Bourbon!! Terrific history and cocktail, Anders! Fabulous! I love this cocktail with both spirits and I alternate but my preferred choice is truly Bourbon! Awesome video! Cheers! 🙂

[@krazmokramer]

As an old man, I have pretty much stopped drinking alcohol. My brain is getting screwed up enough without it. HOWEVER...I really enjoy your videos! And I drink vicariously through you, Anders!! THANK YOU for this channel!

[@SarahRenz59]

Me, too re: vicarious drinking. I live alone and have to drive myself every time I go out, so drinking’s not an option. And drinking at home alone seems a bit sad, so it’s just the VERY occasional cocktail for me.

[@MrBilllynch]

As an old man too, I noticed myself getting stupider with age. So I started drinking alcohol so I notice less. And I also really enjoy Ander's channel.

[@krazmokramer]

@@MrBilllynch So it's not just me. Whatever works for you!💯👍

[@Linda-bq7eq]

Old woman here. Me too!! Thanks guys!

[@JamesDean-84]

Quitter!

[@jedolson6015]

Joe really went from a real life Rick from Casablanca to a real life Carmen San Diego. One of the more fascinating cocktail history sections you’ve done!

[@chadwallace2880]

Rick from Casablanca was all I could think about while he was telling the story!

[@Magicbear90]

Same!

[@kevinwichlin9889]

My life as a bartender is much more tame. Lol

[@goudagirl6095]

Hear, hear! Joe truly was THE "Most interesting man in the world."

[@Frikinbats]

This is why we need the long videos! Thank you for not giving in to the short form video format.

[@conormurphy4328]

Anders: “The British officers loved it” Me: “I bet it has Gin in it”

[@jimbodimbo981]

And/or rum if it’s the Royal Navy

[@mph7282]

I was a suffering bastard last night when I got home and there was no new Anders cocktail video. Today is new day! This one looks fantastic.

[@Trasselkalle]

There was a time when I did not pay full attention to the history segments. Over the holidays, I overheard myself sharing history tidbits with guests we had that kept asking to try new cocktails, just to hear the stories around them. Bloody hell, Anders, you suckered me into becoming a history buff!

[@toddfre]

Wow ... the Suffering Bastard was the first mixed drink I ever ordered. My dad came to town when I was a student -- over 50 years ago! -- and took me out to dinner at the local Trader Vics, and I chose the SB based on the name. It was delicious. Now that I know the true tale of Joe Scialom and his wild-ride career, I'll have to confess I only had the Bastardized SB. What a great story! I'll be chuckling all day about this. Thanks.

[@Mic.vencer]

I love how drink names have derivatives like a branch… “Hello can I get a Bastard?” “Suffering, Dying, or Dead?” “Dead please…”

[@davidkao]

inglorious, please?

[@Mic.vencer]

@@davidkao what’s the recipe for an Inglorious Bastard?

[@maddockemerson4603]

@@Mic.vencerSub ginger beer with lager?

[@farshnuke]

Which Jon Snow would you like?

[@Isweartoomuch]

Ever since Covid, my wife and I drink more than we ever have. I both thank and blame you for it. One of the few good things about Covid. We discovered your channel and, since distilled spirit stores were open, our appetite for cocktails grew with each new episode. Thus far our favorites are the old fashioned, the Boulevardier, the momisette, the absinthe frappe, and the grasshopper. Thank you very much for your great contributions to our drinking delight.

[@MrCosmoe]

I just made both versions of your singapore sling and I am now going to enjoy your new video to the second version. Timing couldn’t be better! Cheers 🍹

[@AndersErickson]

Love it. Cheers

[@teddydanielson4225]

The bourbon based Bastard is one of my go-to party cocktails! Back in college I hosted my chemical engineering peers and made it the star drink, renamed “The Suffering Engineer”. It’s simple to make for large numbers and the mule-style build makes it super approachable. Joe’s fascinating story is the cherry on top!

[@matthewlockhart6243]

My new favourite film of yours. What a story. Love love love

[@DaveStoertebeker]

I love the cocktail history parts of your videos. I find them really entertaining and educational. Thank you for giving the history part so much time and attention in this video! Cheers from Germany! 🍸🥃

[@sdbostick46]

I started following you years ago and randomly started watching your videos again. My goodness, I was missing out for all those years I wasn’t watching.

[@eventyoursofspirits]

I truly enjoyed the story and the cocktail of course.

[@AndersErickson]

Cheers

[@Tilith]

I was skeptical due to your taste opinion, but I love it! I used Larios, a Mediterranean gin, and Courcel VS. And you are right, the ginger beer is really predominant, refreshing despise the tartness of the main spirits, but I did chose some light and fruity ones on purpose, very yummy.

[@davidson7352]

Aaaand there we have tonights drink! Amazing Timing, Anders 🍸

[@foodbreather]

I'm a cognac suffering bastard bastard (my parents are not married). Sadly few bartenders seem to know how to make it.

[@joeltunnah]

Really anything with cognac in it is going to be good.

[@netanelizhakov7592]

I love to hear about the history and background of cocktails! When i see a cocktail i want to try i always search on you tube for some history and background it's very interesting. ❤

[@Randallsilver]

According to legend, it's also very possible it's called the Suffering Bastard since he served it to officers who fought at the front in that time. From what I read in my books, the drink was so popular they literally brought it in barrels to the front where they fought Romnel

[@parkinglot2642]

Ayyyyy I was scared we wouldn’t get an Anders this weekend let’s goooooooo

[@AndersErickson]

Surprise

[@miksologia]

Great story indeed. Also loved hearing about the Dying Bastard and the Dead Bastard, I'll have to make those as well.

[@homosapien5156]

Loved the Joe story. Do more of those

[@dowmer3093]

Great story. I think anyone that enjoys a mule would like this. I’ll have to give it a try. This content sounds like the beginning of a series of cocktails for content focused on famous bars with interesting stories. Like this one you just did and maybe the Hotel Metropol in Hanoi with the Charley Chaplin or the Elephant bar in Phnom Phen, other Raffles etc , etc

[@cateburrows7486]

Anders, when you said you wree just going to touch on the history, I thought "no!" I'm not sure about everyone else, but that's my favourite part. I have made a couple of your drinks, but watched many many more of your videos for you, Az and the narrative behind it!

[@ErikDavisHeim]

What a great drink name and interesting person behind it. I've been meaning to try an Old Fashioned riff on the Suffering Bastard for a while now. Split base with barspoon of ginger syrup, dash of bitters, and spritz a lime coin over it.

[@jacksongilder]

Great addition and story. I always enjoy your delivery. Trying this tonight.

[@kevinmc7692]

Funny thing about taste - it seems to change! Thanks for another entertaining clip. Have a great week everyone.

[@RolfReibach]

Great story telling! Love it!

[@JerianneWhitacre]

Just made this because of your storytelling! Also not my favorite, but I'll absolutely make it again! Thank you!

[@michaelfelsinger-k2i]

Hi Anders, thanks for the video ! Joe might have been the inspiration for Rick in the movie Casablanca. I am presently on a Pink Lady binge as shown on your channel. Struggling to find an apple brandy in Sydney without having to venture far afield on public transport , but even without that , the Pink Lady is pretty good. Since the Suffering Bastard uses gin , I'll try that when I get tired of my Pink Lady - or she gets tired of me.

[@andylittmann]

Thank you for telling the story. It's great. Makes me think of Rick Blaine, only way more adventurous.

[@bobbarron1920]

I am always looking for the next Anders video. You are my favorite You Tube bartender. Thanks for another good one.

[@tduncan146]

Cheers Anders! Quick question: for the variations you mentioned (the Dying Bastard and the Dead Bastard), would you scale back the volume on each spirit to get ~2 oz total base spirit, or add 1 oz of each spirit?

[@AndersErickson]

I'd scale them back to 1/2 oz each. Otherwise it's a monster and you'll need a bigger boat

[@tduncan146]

Thanks Chief!

[@jimvanpelt1]

Nice variations. My son made Suffering Bastards for us a couple years ago, but it seemed to be mostly gin to me, which isn't my favorite spirit. Yours sound better. Also, I like Fever Tree. It's my 2nd favorite ginger beer. I prefer Q, which has more gingery bite. Loved the story! There's tons of interesting narratives around drinks. I particularly like the story of George Remus. He wasn't a nice guy, but he had a colorful story.

[@WrathChild72]

Nice drink! Try my drink I made called the “Spring Forward” (for setting the clocks ahead…). 😊 2 oz Gin 1/2 oz Limoncino (lemon liqueur) 1/2oz lemon juice 1/4oz honey liqueur 1/4oz simple syrup Shake and double strain into an old fashioned type glass with a giant ice cube. Smack some mint if you want to as a garnish

[@OrilionSol]

My favorite longdrink's featured ! Thank you for the story behind it. (Also, team Cognac here, no question)

[@Xylasider]

I bought a Spanish Brandy that was recommended at my liquor store recently for cocktails. I might give that a try here.

[@ethantalbot1811]

I've been looking to restock some Maison Rouge VSOP cognac for quite a while, glad to see it available on Curiada now!

[@yevgenyo2181]

Great story, thanks!🙂

[@conradh7659]

Love the story!!! Thx for doing the research and sharing the history! Cheers

[@karlpalsson7772]

This is actually one of my top three cocktails. I've never actually tried it with bourbon though.

[@danpost4755]

I agree! I am happy to tip fairly for good service, or toss a few bucks in for a busking musician. But I am not tipping for "nothing." This also breeds an entitlement issue with some who are used to getting extra without earning it

[@tristanmazet3288]

The narrative Suffering > Dying > Dead is great.

[@tomhubbard7053]

I probably tend to lean more toward the bourbon Suffering Bastard than the cognac. However, I also am really fond of the trader Vic version, just without the cucumber slice. I also really like the dying and the dead bastard, if for no other reason, just the novelty of the names.

[@karissa07]

Can't wait to make those this summer by the pool! Thanks so much!

[@Quiet1-y9x]

Excellent, as always

[@AndersErickson]

Cheers

[@RandyEby-t3k]

Hey Anders, great film as always! If you happen to see this, do you have any recommendations for bars to go to in chicago for someone visiting the city fir the first time? Or just a place to direct me for good info on which bars to try there? Thanks!

[@jschoenack]

TO THE BAR!➡️🥃

[@erichoffhines]

Great to see you Anders! Congrats on (over) 500,000 subscribers! Wow! You're the best! Come to Mexico and do a Mezcal and/or Tequila series. I'll hook you up!

[@AndersErickson]

Thanks so much Eric! I’ll take you up on that offer!

[@mistermom310]

I'm a history nerd and love the backstory...cheers🥃🥃

[@kevinthomson6324]

Buying some fresh mint and ginger beer after work tomorrow. I have to try both of these

[@cecefil]

Bourbon version for me! ❤ Raising a class to Joe Scialom!! 🥃 good stuff Anders

[@JuDGe3690]

In this vein, I'd love to see your take on the Jungle Bird, especially with your choices of rum. I type this after having both an atrocious Jungle Bird at a local "tiki" restaurant and an amazing Smith & Cross Jungle Bird at a local cocktail bar.

[@joeltunnah]

I use maple syrup. Works wonderfully.

[@shaydabush7629]

Love the story!

[@johnlong7198]

Anders, I really love your videos and this is another great one!! 🍹🍸🧉

[@AndersErickson]

Thanks so much! Cheers

[@Luckyluc2911]

Yesss, my favourite cocktail!!

[@XXXX-lv2hc]

If you don't have rich syrup, can you double up regular simple syrup?

[@Beefinator5000]

Love the history, thanks Anders!

[@agutierrez50]

I’m curious to try this but try both alternate base liquors, bourbon and cognac, without the gin

[@hollyweaver7292]

What a great story!

[@jovi_monet]

Hey Anders. This is a bit unrelated to the video at hand, but I'm allergic to both eggs and chickpeas! Do you have any recommendations for alternative foaming agents? Cheers from Seattle!

[@charg4519]

Anders, have you made it with lime cordial? Some of the history seems to have cordial over fresh lime juice. Both ways work for me, but there is a subtle difference.

[@lewiscoghill3810]

Hey so unrelated to the video but st Patrick's day is coming up I'm also in northwest Chicago suburbs and I'm looking for irish single pot still and single malts that are 50 dollars or less so I can make some irish coffees and mules for the holiday any recommendations??? Also any other irish whiskey cocktail recommendations too???

[@DirtyHairy01]

I’m going to make both!

[@noahkohn9350]

What kind of rum would you recommend for the Dead Bastard?

[@juvemaniakk1o]

Joe was "the Guy" in " I know a guy"

[@AndersErickson]

Definitely

[@MostlyUnreadArmchairExpert]

Regarding Demerara syrup - for this and any other cocktail: To what extent is brown sugar a reasonable substitute for the Demerara sugar? It’s way easier / cheaper to find brown sugar obviously.

[@AndersErickson]

Brown sugar will definitely work - especially here. I get more molasses with brown sugar, but that's not a bad thing

[@allenriordanyork3856]

It is a very poor substitute. Many options of Demerara sugar available on Amazon. It’s worth it. Anders got me to keep it in stock at our house. Cheers!

[@notahotshot]

There is a very slight difference in flavor profiles between Demerara/Turbinado/Brown sugar due to the difference in the amount of molasses in each one. The texture of the crystals is different between the three, but as soon as you make it into a syrup that becomes irrelevant.

[@jeffthebagpiper681]

I love the stories.

[@carsondooman7626]

LETS GOOO SATURDAY CARTOON BABY

[@AndersErickson]

Happy weekend

[@coreykononchuk]

I don’t know why I found the variations dying bastard and dead bastard so funny but that had me laughing like crazy. Great story, thanks!

[@ThatMikotan]

Generally I prefer to make the Cognac version! I personally prefer how the fruitiness mixes overall in the drink!

[@sandrinoes]

Definitely will try. Nice story btw

[@cheeb05]

Is Demerara similar or the same as turbinado? I can only ever find turbinado but it sounds as if it’s similar.

[@mph7282]

They are very similar. Both are “raw” sugars, meaning they are only crystallized once. Turbinado is the first pressing, so it has a bit more of the molasses in it and a stronger flavor, but it works fine. That’s typically what use for bar syrup.

[@joeyoliver504]

Can we get a Guide to Cognac? I'm curious about your thoughts since I work in a liquor store and don't want to recommend Henny

[@oscarsnr]

The History is strong this week. Love it. You could have worn a Fez though… 😂

[@Reload7x1]

@AndersErickson I can finally get that Maison Rouge. I can’t find it here in PA. Any other go-to cognac that works well for someone on a budget.

[@AndersErickson]

Picking a VS instead of a VSOP cognac will save you money. If you're planning mix with it, little is lost

[@Default78334]

I'd go with a non-Cognac French brandy. St. Remy is excellent and extremely cheap ($15 for a bottle of the VSOP or $25 for the XO).

[@homunculus777]

I remember Tiki Bar TV making this back in the day. That was a great early internet show.

[@utsteinproductions]

Might have to try this with Old Forester Rye.

[@tombrown1898]

Just watched this again. Joe sounds more than a little like Rick in "Casablanca," played by Humphrey Bogart. Rick's Cafe' Americane' was where nearly all the action took place. Rick knew everything about everybody, but nobody knew much about him. Murray Burnett, who wrote the play upon which Casablanca was based, had been traveling in that part of the world in the very early '40s, and it's not inconceivable that he ran into Joe Scialom.

[@bomdestructor]

Damn those looks good and refreshing! Thanks for the lesson once more :)

[@trhoads07]

Hello my neighbor, thankyou so much for your videos. Have you thought about doing a get to gather for the Chicago locals who would love to try your drinks?

[@dimikaydoesthings]

Loved this ! New sub, thank you 👌

[@RangerSierra11]

This dude Joe sounds like the origin for Bogart's character Rick in Casablanca.

[@EricAAnderson]

I apprentice this channel. Great story, this one!

[@ProudTexanIsMe]

I need a Mocktail vid

[@robertcorrins3319]

Cognac could you possibly do more cocktails with it I'm on the old fashioned cognac

[@robertvarda9307]

Anders, what song is playing during the early part for the history?

[@dudulude7729]

I'd be interested to see you make your top 5 most favourite cocktails......🍹

[@rafalwieckowski]

Finally first! I love you!

[@crown7639]

For the dying and dead bastard variations is it 1oz for all the spirits?

[@JLeeeP]

This question was addressed in an earlier comment.

[@pumpkinheadghoul]

If you can't find demorara sugar, then you've obviously never visited Amazon, because two weeks ago I'd never heard of the stuff, and now I have a two pound bag of it sitting in my pantry, and a bottle of homemade syrup sitting on my bar. Yes, Amazon has both the overpriced syrup, and the way cheaper option, the sugar to make your own syrup by heating two parts sugar to one part water.

[@audreygf2663]

Joe needs a movie made about him!

[@alvinmousseau1100]

Awesome video

[@tanya9112]

I now just want to go to some posh hotel bar and order one 👍🏼🥃

[@cracgor]

I always look forward to your videos. 乾杯!

[@aneuno2]

Would you consider this to be a tiki drink because of Trader Vic even with the original recipe? I ask because I have a speak easy tiki bar in So Cal and I sometimes get folks asking me for this cocktail. I serve it in the black suffering bastard tiki mug. Not sure if the mug ties into the original story in any way or if it was a Trader Vic influence.

[@belsonicboom1109]

Sean Bean has just seen this & thought to himself “Bastard”!!!😎