The SummerCart64 | End of the Everdrive? Setup Guide

[@Clodd1]

So awesome that we got more options. I have three questions: 1. Does the RTC work on Animal Crossing? 2. Can I set it up on MacOS? 3. Do cheat codes work?

[@DReviewTing]

So, I'll have to give you a quarter answer here, haha. I have read the RTC works with Animal Crossing, but I haven't tried it myself. As for MacOS, from what I can read on their github page, it can be. But again, I haven't done it myself. And I'm not to sure about the cheats 😅 there's still alot I need to play and figure out myself. I've pinned your comments though, with the hope someone with better knowledge can answer your question.

[@Clodd1]

@@DReviewTing Thank you for answering! I have an ED64Plus, it works just fine, but the RTC feature caught my attention.

[@ernstkomtlater6323]

i did the firmware uidate and animal forrest works perfect with rtc

[@kearneyanimation]

Lovely to see some healthy , functional competition in the flash cart space. I know a few people that more casually collect/play retro games and we were speaking recently about the Everdrive's expense (considering its age at this point as well). OpenSource paves the way for these to only get better in new revisions, and potentially cheaper too. Also great to hear your link ships to Ireland

[@DReviewTing]

Exactly. Healthy competition is great for consumers. I appreciate what Krizz and the ED started, but with this being open source, it offers so much more potential.

[@esmith13]

I have had an Everdrive 64 for years but recently got one of these for 64DD and iQue support. I'm very happy with it.

[@DReviewTing]

Very cool. Do you fund much difference in functionality outside of DD and iQue support?

[@esmith13]

@@DReviewTing Not unless you are a dev, or you want to send ROMs directly from your PC instead of storing them on sdcard. Also the NES/SNES/GB/GBC emulation is pretty good, though I can't see preferring it over other solutions for those games. The same flashcart menu the Summercart uses can also be run on the Everdrive 64. I haven't tried that yet to see if I prefer one cart over the other in an apples to apples comparison. TBF, my Everdrive 64 predates the "x7" model so I'm not sure if my two carts are even a fair comparison.

[@DanielBrown-nb9zz]

So cool to see furthered work on the N64 . This system is probably in my top 3 all time favorites.

[@DReviewTing]

Same. I'm delighted there is some healthy competition now for the 64 flashcart consumers. Also, N64 is my favourite console! 😃 Thanks for watching!

[@ico128]

Just ordered one. I always wanted an everdrive, and with this I can play the F-Zero expansion. It's like a dream come true. Thanks to your video man!

[@DReviewTing]

Exactly why I got it haha! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and hope you enjoy the SummerCart! Thanks for watching, and commenting! 😃

[@paulrose1634]

With decompilation projects has heralded existing n64 games getting 20 years of optimization added to them, and an easy means of playing the best console specific versions of these titles easily would be an absolute treat!

[@DReviewTing]

That is an amazing point. I would love to see them released and playable on flashcarts!

[@marcgoesblindgaming2076]

This cart sounds fantastic, There's nothing like playing these games on original hardware

[@DReviewTing]

I couldn't agree more. I legit can't describe the feeling of playing the 64DD on the N64! Something I've wanted to do since I was young! Thanks for checking the video out bud!

[@ReallyBadJuJu]

MiSTer is supposed to be pretty damn close. Mine is on the way, so I hope it's as good as I've heard.

[@kamilpotato3764]

@@ReallyBadJuJu Still requires rom hacks. I think for Saturn and N64 we need to wait for more powerful FPGA chips.

[@femtrooper]

This definitely looks cool!!! Interesting video!!!

[@DReviewTing]

Thank you! 😃

[@uppernimbus]

Good stuff, Graeme! Loving the Big Blue background music as well ❤

[@DReviewTing]

Greatly appreciate it man. Big Vlue is definitely one of my favourite tunes, especially to use in videos haha!

[@ChuckFinley-b1g]

Finally the storm has come, The Baz has his game. Now if only we get Asagi from Nippon Ichi Software her own game.

[@jakesmith5278]

Glad this exists. The Everdrive is too expensive.

[@DReviewTing]

Same. I'm absolutely delighted. I sound like a broken record, but the 64DD functionality is incredible!

[@andrebrait]

It's expensive, but worth it. Krikzz is an amazing guy and their support is flawless. They totally took my RMA request for a minor hardware bug on an ED I had bought more than 2 years before. No questions asked.

[@Jay84476]

Yes but the Everdrive Still has exclusive features and gets regular updates including more functionality.

[@lmcgregoruk]

Yeah, but isn't the reason the Everdrive's got so expensive, is because the guy that made them stopped after Russia invaded the Ukraine, and he had to move. So lack of supply with no lack of demand made people sell the ones they had for even more. Started making them again though. I've got an ED64 Pro, which is basically a chinese knockoff of the earlier everdrive, but it was cheap, and included a preloaded microSD card.

[@TooBokoo]

You can get an Everdrive64 X5 from Stoneagegamer for $125. Once you add a shell to the SummerCart64 and pay for shipping, it's the same price as the Everdrive64 X5. LOL! I'm not sure what people are talking about when it comes to pricing. Not to mention, there were only 10 64DD games released, and over half of them aren't worth playing. The Everdrive64 X5 and X7 can play English translated 64DD games just fine.

[@micky8ball]

How is this cart NOT popular!?

[@DReviewTing]

I genuinely don't know! It should be getting a lot more attention!

[@gammaphonic]

All 64DD disks have been converted to cart format anyway, so you can play them on any flash cart.

[@DReviewTing]

Excellent. I'll have to check that out 😃👍🏻

[@Gogeta007yBro]

Not all, and according to LuigiBlood, they are a bitch to do, hence he is not working on those anymore at the moment.

[@ultraspinalki11]

​@@Gogeta007yBrowhich ones have not been converted?

[@gammaphonic]

@@Gogeta007yBro I’ve got all of them on my Everdrive. They all work fine.

[@badsmusic6321]

Pokemon Stadium 2 work withou issue? Because have graphical glitch for me on another flashcart

[@mrmobbs350]

Thanks for the video. It was very useful. I notice in the cart options rumble is set to off & it says to change setting you have to change the config.ini file on the SD card. I can find the file but I'm not sure what I need to do from there. Any help appreciated pls

[@iorix98]

I emulate 64DD on my everdrive 64. You only need to patch the rom.

[@LEESTLANE]

Would you know specwise which one is more powerful? The SummerCart64 or the Everdrive X7?

[@mikemoss6045]

The only thing that could pry me away from the everdrive line of products is a better menu with background wallpapers.. i dont see any background wallpaper feature..

[@DReviewTing]

That's fair. If you already have the Everdrive, there's no point getting something similar, since functionality is also similar.. It's good to have the option for people who are new to flashcarts, and deciding what to get.

[@SkateSoup]

DD games on basically original hardware is cool as.

[@DReviewTing]

I agree. This would be the closest I'd ever get to playing a 64DD. I love it!

[@nickproulx6650]

I also ordered one of these that Phenom Mod produces. Question for you: Was the cart/pcb already programmed when yours arrived, or did you have to program it yourself? It seems implied that it was already programmed, since your video starts with the SD card setup, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask specifically. Thanks!

[@DReviewTing]

Hey! So the only setup you have to do is put the menu files onto the sd card. If you go to the summercart website and hit the downloads tab at the top, it'll take you to where you can get them. Them just drag them to the root of the SD card and should be good to go.

[@caiodaris7064]

It has so much difference between the summer cart and the ED64 plus ?

[@redminote6975]

Me gustan muchísimo este tipo de cosas de echo tengo un monton de consolas y acada una le tengo un flashcard, acabo de pedir uno de estos por Aliexpress.

[@chrisstewart5052]

Just got mine. My picture has the video lines and bad quality whereas my normal N64 games are fine. I'm using an N64 to hdmi lead too. Any ideas?

[@jesuel55]

How do I update the summer cart and which website can I do this update from? and what is the update for?

[@mrmobbs350]

Hi I've just figured out how to update my cart. I used the instructions found on the official github under quick start setup guide near the bottom of that page. GL

[@TWate03]

What is the file reading software you are using to read/view all your files? Mine are opening with a blank doc, saying it needs software to be viewed but FileVoyager is apparently not the solution. Thank you for the tutorial!

[@DReviewTing]

Hi! Thank you, I hope it was somewhat useful 😃 I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I use 7zip, and NotePad++. Can you give me a time stamp in the video, and I can try to be more specific? Thanks for watching 😃

[@TWate03]

@@DReviewTing It is the Icon that appears next to all of your game files and downloaded files. It’s hard to tell from the video but it looks like two green arrows?

[@UnderseaDock717]

Para grabar partida también se tienen que resetear la consola o es en automático? 🤔🤔🤔

[@docvoc9253]

Its about time.

[@erikr8755]

Where did you get the Clear Cartridge for the SummerCart

[@DReviewTing]

It was an option when ordering through the Phenommods store 👍🏻

[@christiancastillo3043]

Cool, do you know if they're coming out with something similar for the SNES?

[@Exitsing]

Where did you get the clear cart shell?

[@DReviewTing]

I ordered it with the summercart. You can either order it by itself, or choose a shell. There are a few colours available 👍🏻

[@borjatriaymoll593]

Can you play 64DD translared games? Very interested in fzero expansion

[@DReviewTing]

Excellent questions. I'd imagine if yhe rom was patched to English, it would work no problem...

[@darthimmitis]

Hey friend! Where did you find that super clear version???

[@DReviewTing]

Hey! The shell was an option when buying the summercart from PhenomMods. There were a few options, bur clear looked sick!

[@Eddykine]

Merci

[@DReviewTing]

😊👍🏻

[@hellsfirefreedomtube6984]

I like to get this but I don’t have a computer to download games to something like this. Is there some way to get the games already pre-downloaded?

[@Clos93]

Download the ROMs on your phone, then transfer them via USB to a SD card adapter. If you want to get into this hobby, I highly recommend getting a PC, any PC. Whether it be a cheap pawnshop laptop or a $200 mini PC. Really comes in handy for file transfer and "finding" ROMs online. And I like to test the games I "found" on emulators, to make sure it's a good rip or dump of a ROM/ISO. So it's good to have a PC that can do basic console emulation well.

[@Clos93]

You can also just get an anbernic handheld. Preloaded with games up to Dreamcast and N64. They're readily available, and can do HDMI out and have Bluetooth capability for wireless controllers.

[@DReviewTing]

That is an excellent alternative, and I've done similar with my steamdeck 😃

[@Clos93]

@@DReviewTing I've been meaning to add more games to mine lol. Just have PS2, GameCube, and N64. I wish I would've done my emudeck install on the internal storage, so I could've swapped steam games on my SD cards lol. Been considering redoing my emudeck install.

[@DReviewTing]

@Clos93 I'd say that would be a solid choice. I have all mine installed in my retro/emulators on SD card, and steam etc on the internal storage. I use mine like a mini gaming PC through the TV.

[@LimeAtions]

Thank god.

[@andreashylyd4153]

combo rom like ootxmm? or multi world on analoge 3d?

[@DReviewTing]

Oh, that's a good point. I have an ootxmm seed that I've played, but haven't tried it on the summercart yet!

[@borjatriaymoll593]

Can you play fzeroDD ttanslated?

[@farrelljonesjr8175]

Some of us don’t have a way to download the games from their website

[@DReviewTing]

Bummer

[@johanssonr.1914]

Like from 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@DReviewTing]

Appreciate it, brother! 🇧🇷🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@JesseFleming1990]

No in menu cheat system. Otherwise perfect.

[@SeanEndoh]

Everdrive make really cool products but the way they price their products and then hike them up even more internationally & then claim it's because their a small company despite selling out every product they've ever made over the last 10 years and they HATE competition if you look at rival product reviews I've seen them ask for them to be taken down in the comments. Their business strategy just seem abit slimy to me

[@DReviewTing]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Absolutely agree.

[@siahfishin5295]

Is this cart fpga like the everdrive and does this cart just rom dump or play from the cart?

[@Peltonimo]

Im confused how you got it for $50. Every way I see to buy it is over $100 unless I order 5 of them. Did you do a mass buy with the discord?

[@DReviewTing]

I don't recall saying I got it for 50 🤔 I got mine from PhenomMods for about €130. It's about 500 for 5 assembled boards on PCBWay, if I remember correctly.

[@yellow.thunder6912]

Okay I know summer car is 64 works but the one game truly I want to see work and I know it has a hard time working is banjo and kazooie now this game has some rips with in it It has some weird things going on with it so I was wondering if you could do it just a short intro on that how to fix that or if it's just a rom problem

[@DReviewTing]

Oh aye? Interesting. I'll have to have a look 🤔 is it the full game, or just certain sections??

[@yellow.thunder6912]

@@DReviewTing it's the beginning of the game after the game loads into the actual gameplay where he's actually on the field and I'm picking up like the honeycombs and then go on up the hill It starts to be like pinkish pixelated and I tried various systems is Windows and then my new ASUS z97-ws It may be a little older but it's still runs new and modern games just as you just pull it out the box basically

[@yellow.thunder6912]

All I can say without giving any kind of information to where I got the rom at is vimms

[@DReviewTing]

@yellow.thunder6912 I'll need to check that out! Can the Everdrive run the game ok? It may just be an emulation software rendering issue?

[@DReviewTing]

@yellow.thunder6912 🤐 haha. I'll look in to it, and get back to you. I was looking for some challenging games for it to run. Mario Kart, and RE2 ran with no issues.

[@eduardoraga8590]

Did exist something similar to snes?

[@DReviewTing]

I have seen similar on sites like AliExpress, but don't know how good they are.

[@gosunkugi]

Very hit and miss. I don't believe I've ever seen one on there that can handle the enhancement chips. So if you get a lower priced option be prepared for the gutpunch that you won't be able to play Mario Kart or Starwing etc.

[@neogohanamv]

The SD2SNES is closest. It's very similar to the "FXPak Pro", and it's played everything I've thrown at it -- SuperFX games, MSU-1 audio, NES recomps to SNES, rom hacks, and other expansion chips (Mario RPG, Tales of Phantasia, Kirby Super Star, Mega Man X3, etc). It also implements the Super Game Boy 2 firmware so it plays all Game Boy games as well. The "Rev X" version on Ali is a knock off but I'd still recommend it. Pricier but very worth it.

[@Jay84476]

Great theres a nice cheaper 64 Flashcart available, but Krikkz quality and dedication to the product including updates and the fact he had to flee from ukraine and still put out a stellar product.. as far as im considered these are just cheap knocks but its nice there available for those who cannot justify the price of the everdrive

[@neogohanamv]

SC64 just had a firmware update a few days ago, and the N64FlashcartMenu project is also under active development. I wouldn't say the SC64 is in any way a less quality project or a lesser alternative to an X7. The real benefit of the SC64 is that you, or anyone, can build it yourself, iterate upon it, or contribute to the code base to improve it. This is healthier for the community than having it be a closed source commercial project

[@DReviewTing]

@neogohanamv very well said 👏🏼

[@hannahprojecteuler]

Owning a summercart myself and knowing someone who has both an n64 everdrive and summercart...summercart is just straight up better in almost every way. The most annoying thing with the ED64 is the luck-based sd card reader. It can sometimes take multiple restarts before it'll actually read it. Summercart also has much faster usb-transfer speed (also being usb-c instead of micro-usb though to be fair the ED64 has existed for much longer) Main issue with the SC64 is getting one. There are some people who group order these things and sell them but they can be hard to find.

[@ultraspinalki11]

​@@hannahprojecteulerMy ED64 never had issues reading its SD card. The SC64 being able to play 64DD games seems nice, but apparently there are rom hacks or such that can make 64DD game work on the ED64?

[@hannahprojecteuler]

@@ultraspinalki11 From what I understand there are ways to convert N64DD roms to work on everdrive, but it's nice not having to do that extra step with the SC64

[@TanookiSuit]

SNES doesn't end in z...come on. Really solid kit, glad to see someone forcing the everdrive out as the only choice.

[@DReviewTing]

If that's the only thing in this video that annoyed you, I'll take that as a win, and go play my SNEZZZZZ!

[@wettuga2762]

Everdrive64 X5 $99, built-in NES emulator, SNES emulation with sodium64. Everdrive64 X5 $159, RTC, built-in NES emulator, SNES emulation with sodium64. SummerCart64 $108, RTC, 64DD, built-in SNES emulator According to Wikipedia, only 10 disks were released for the 64DD, where 4 are Mario Artist variations, 1 is a dialup disk, 2 are expansion disks for Doshin the Giant and F-Zero X, so that leaves us with 3 unique games: Doshin the Giant (also on Gamecube), SimCity 64 and Japan Pro Golf Tour 64. I still prefer to have all my flashcarts Everdrive branded, tried and tested over the years, all matching in translucent red shells. But I do like competition, it's always good to have more to choose from.

[@TooBokoo]

This. I'm really not sure why there are a few people so obsessed with the SummerCart. Once you add a shell and pay for shipping, it costs just as much as an EverDrive64 X5. And the Everdrive64 X5 can play 64DD English translation roms just fine, if that's your thing. And as you mentioned, there's barely any 64DD games. I could understand the appeal if the Summercart was, like $50. But, it ends up being the same price as an X5 model, and Krikzz releases so many firmware and feature updates for all of his products.

[@JS-oi5jt]

yea people dont realize the DD games suck lol. I own one and all the games but the golf one. having n64dd compatibility is not a great selling point

[@michaelromo4829]

@@TooBokoo My concern is does it save without reset like the x7? Or is it functionally like the x5?

[@neogohanamv]

​@@michaelromo4829It's like the X7. Saves are instantly committed to SD card

[@pmode4]

@@TooBokoo Thing is, the SummerCart looks to be basically an X7, which before shipping is still cheaper than buying direct from Krizz (and WAY cheaper than buying from Stone Age Gamer in the States, which is starts at $215).

[@rolux4853]

Is there some way to get this thing in europe? Or is it only for privileged US citizens like most the stuff in the retro scene?

[@lmcgregoruk]

Well considering he sounds Scottish I would think so, just went on the website he got it from and Estimated shipping to the UK is £13.92 (Although it says by weight, and has weight as 0.00) So £93.96 for the PCB, £13.92 for a shell, and £13.92 for shipping. So £121.80 altogether.

[@tardistrailers]

You can just import it? It's like 60€ on AliExpress.

[@ulyssesvieira6321]

​@@lmcgregoruk sou do Brasil e comprei o meu essa semana no Aliexpress.

[@neogohanamv]

​@@tardistrailersBe wary of the AliExpress knock offs. While it's open source and free for anyone to build, they've been making carts with the wrong FPGA version and otherwise not sticking to the design spec. Get the Phenom Mod version if you can.

[@DReviewTing]

Absolutely bang on. I got mine shipped to Republic of Ireland, but cost pretty much that!

[@AlexSBedini]

What's the point of this product and how can it end Everdrive if it is going to be much more expensive than Everdrive ??????

[@DReviewTing]

1. It's cheaper than the X7 and most Krizz EDs. 2. It's open source, which means the community can expand on it, and gives more options for the N64 flashcart consumer. 3. It's designed with devs in mind, possibly further expanding the library and decomps. 4. It is as powerful as the x7, more powerful than earlier models, and again, cheaper. Seems like a lot of things that could go against the Everdrive.

[@skins4thewin]

It's not an "Emulation" cart.... There is no Emulation happening with this. Ya gotta stop using that term, it doesnt apply here.

[@DReviewTing]

Cool your beans there, kiddo. If you watched the video, and looked at the screen at 0:05, you'd see I corrected myself. I simply misspoke.

[@davidste60]

Except that it has SNES emulation, 64DD emulation and it emulates the behaviour of original N64 cartridges.

[@HEADRUSH444]

cheaper but most likely with a lower compatibility

[@neogohanamv]

Compatibility is the same as the Everdrive, as far as official games go. IDK about rom hack compatibility, but it should be comparable as well.

[@DReviewTing]

I disagree. So far, it has been able to play everything I have thrown at it. From the biggest roms, to rom Hacks, and fan made games. Plus it runs the 64DD flawlessly. So far, it is out performing the everdrive on every measure.

[@F0CKSTR0T]

That's hilarious. This does 64DD but the Analogue 3D boutique super niche luxury hardware does not.

[@DReviewTing]

I still kind of want the Analogue 3D, but I think I'd be able to make my own 🤣