The Surprising Depth of CS2's Inferno

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CS2 IS FINALLY HERE THANK GOD LETS GO alright anyways this video is about the CS2 Inferno overhaul and why I think that the approach that Valve took in regards to remaking this map is even better than most people realize. Hopefully this sets a precedent for CS2, and all map remakes in the future will be as careful and perfect as this one. We couldn't have gotten a better version of Inferno, and I'm sure of that. Inferno's depth is surprising, and I am not just referring to the water in fountain.
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[@PenguinCS2]

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[@sphinxtheater]

Audio is perfect

[@kola7926]

yeye audio sound great.

[@Zuckerkome]

pretty much the same

[@turbofuss]

Audio sounds like a professional with 1mil+ Subscribers

[@AcT323-1]

yeah audio is still great

[@hans_olo121]

For me the biggest change for inferno is how differently you have to play pit now, there are SO many changes to that small area that makes fighting someone in pit way less of a pain and is probably my favourite change

[@m.n.s.s2825]

The old pit was pit from HELL, It was so OP and the position alone made me avoid A site. Not to mention that you got a BALCONY and GRAVE which also were so OP position. Basically if you were playing short you had to deal with 3 most overpowered position at once.

[@MrPreachingCarrot]

I would argue that fact you can no longer flash 2ND mid to peek as a CT is massive. I kinda dislike it personally.

[@MonkeyMcMonkey]

@@MrPreachingCarrotcan you explain what you mean by this? Why can 2nd mid no longer be flashed?

[@atrikarmakar7564]

​@@MonkeyMcMonkeythey have increased the height of the building, so either the flash has to go way up which reduces the intensity or you have to throw it from apps stairs or something towards 2nd mid

[@hans_olo121]

@@MrPreachingCarrot how was that typically done in GO? I somehow have never heard of this lmao

[@DavidSantosManuel]

I love how in each iteration the church repairs got closer to being finished.

[@Reece_underscore]

when i saw that inferno was getting a top to bottom remake, my first thought was "damn, of all csgo maps inferno seems like one of the more in date ones" now i have played the CS2 version and gone back to the CSGO version, i see how crazy the difference is. this is definitely the best overhauled map in the game so far

[@Acidity01]

I still think they should have remade Mirage instead. Which is easily the most outdated looking map in the game.

[@Reece_underscore]

@@Acidity01 i agree, however s2 lighting alone has definitely helped bring Mirage up to standard a bit. everything looks clean if not a tad washed out but that seems typical of the cs2 style so far

[@pannomic1818]

Inferno wasn't the second or third one to get the remake? Maybe we feel that is old bc we played too much, at least with Train I have not that issue and it was the first map to get a remake. And since that, the map wasn't touched again then one day they deleted from the pool, so we actually dind't burnout the layout of Train watching pro matches or playing (I play Train a lot bc i like it) But with Inferno you play, you train executes, yo watch demos, you watch pro matches... even if you are not getting tired of the map, CS2's Inferno show us how old and burnout the layout was...

[@pannomic1818]

@@Acidity01 I agree, it needs a revamped gameplay. A lot of people think that overpass need a remake too but CS2 did the right thing, Overpass only needed a new layout and some minor changes, bc the map already had, since it was on the mappool, tons of changes until the final and perfected version, but the layout was outdated long time ago, so it was really nice the new one with out too much gameplay changes

[@azder4140]

Meh new inferno doesn't feel like inferno, and as a person that normally plays b, that site specifically feels somehow worse to hold, not as many options to go aggressive for entries -awp ofc will get entries, nade stacks feel off, and generally doesn't feel good to play. And no I'm no infernoglobal, I generally played mirage and vertigo, and frankly, I do not care how a map looks, only how it plays, and the way they changed and even made new inferno look, is off-putting.

[@teganzschering3738]

But for real, I love CS2 and have been increasingly enjoying it everyday. I cannot wait for more updates and hopefully some maps like cache and train to come back (and the leaked cobblestone !)

[@m.n.s.s2825]

CS2 is miles better, One people gets more FPS, Server gets stable. No one will remember CSGO. Even the movement feels better in CS2, How swiftly you can air strafe is my fav part

[@grigss3027]

​@@m.n.s.s2825fps is abit down on older pc's and i still hate the buy menu change but overall yeah csgo will fade into deep memory/cracked copies

[@tonny8881]

Pls no, cbble was always hot garbage

[@TheDogThatBarks]

fucking sucks keeps crashing

[@CBSnB2R]

The new Inferno is so beautiful but I'll definitely miss the old one.

[@Malxer]

I totally love Inferno one of my fav maps if not my favourite of all time alongside Overpass in GO. Buuuuuuuut we are still missing the Separatists and factions. I'm crossing my fingers so Valve doesn't forget to add them back.

[@Koijn2K]

Yeah, the separatists were def the coolest player models in the game, wish there was a skin version of them.

[@arc-sd8sk]

fun fact, those "bot voices" from the inferno TV easter egg were in CZ before source I wonder if they were made for source, then used in CZ or the other way around

[@daniellee4003]

They were made for CZ & Xbox, then Turtle Rock were made aware during development that it was also going to be used for CS:S after Valve realised TF2 wasn't anywhere near release but they wanted a quick-and-easy multiplayer Source release.

[@luis_lantano]

you finally got access to cs2! Only took almost 5 months

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

everyone (with prime&rank) got access this month

[@DeityHorus]

@@user-wq9mw2xz3jNot me. Initially I didn't have a rank but got one soon after the announcement and was ready for wave two, nothing even though I met all requirements now.

[@snowfloofcathug]

@@user-wq9mw2xz3jand in the right area (I think Oceania still doesn’t have it?)

[@lukasg4807]

​@user-wq9mw2xz3j are they still sending out access? I have prime and a rank, but it had expired when they expanded access

[@josh-qj2zu]

Not sure if it’s nostalgia but the yellow blue red style art style of csgo inferno will always be my favorite

[@shalom1523]

That’s a great analysis. I love how you pointed out these bird spikes, as it shows the crazy attention to detail they put into this map.

[@NickelW]

They made the skill jump at 3:30 harder like, a day after new inferno released

[@TahaJelani]

At 5:50 the TV is displaying a placeholder texture, it is supposed to show CS source. You can see it if you view the cube map of that area.

[@Omega900]

I love the fact how I play the game for more than 5 years straight and I always had a mm rank since I dont like faceit.... but the month I was on a vacation and quite busy and my rank expired they have decided to give more access to all people with active rank

[@JoelRundle-]

Audio sounds great! No echo or unnecessary reverb. Loved the video as well, loving the new map. hoping they'll make small changes like this across the other maps as well, although since they're already released I doubt it...

[@zennr_]

I think a video on now redundant/no longer working utility lineups could be an interesting video. Obviously not all 100's of lineups but some of the more significant and important ones that may have changed between csgo and cs2.

[@CoolCommando123]

I think this would be a great idea

[@ThinkAboutVic]

A mention about that one bugged molotov lineup on Vertigo that Valve tried to patch like 50 times, but still ended up working in CS2 would be funny There's already a very well-made vid about the Mirage window smoke too.

[@zennr_]

@@ThinkAboutVic precisely what i was thinking about too.

[@tfhcs]

everyone i play with in matchmaking seems to dislike the changes, but i literally only see positives when i see the new inferno

[@neaputbutter]

Don't forget the bells! you can play a few simple songs now like mary had a little lamb

[@widthemid]

inferno is so sick in cs2. im still garbage at it but at least im slightly less miserable while getting dumpstered on

[@frostyseven4226]

With 3kliksphilip releasing videos less frequently lately, it's good to have someone else who also produces great content about CS trivia and lesser-discussed topics.

[@dubl33_27]

might be an unpopular opinion but i think csgo inferno feels more cozy, with the dimmer colors and the smaller perspective of the buildings.

[@zahir2942]

definitely feels smaller

[@ashtonbenning3280]

Old inferno had such a cool vibe and asthetic that stood out from the rest. Prob my favorite map design wise. sad to see it go

[@TMGTurdFerguson]

I like that sky boxes are opened up in cs2. It's more interesting to be able to throw smokes across the map, and it's less jarring from a spectators standpoint seeing grenades bounce off of the invisible ceiling. Naturally new lineups will be found without needing the sky box, and valve has considered this like you mentioned with the scaffolding at B site.

[@stefanbatory3632]

They could have named the wine cellar "The Wine Library".

[@atrikarmakar7564]

My biggest let-down was the color themes they used for each site. Visually differentiating A & B by red and blue aesthetics respectively in CSGO Both sites having the red tones now feels quite bland.

[@kaiNeey]

yeah the bomb sites are ass compared to CS:GO...

[@VideoklipBG]

I like the CS 2 Inferno, although I haven't played much on it yet. A few things that I noticed immediately are the more clunky jumps from lower to higher elevations and some weird clip brushes around pavements and stairs. Pushing CT apps, for example, now requires 4 jumps (1st barrels, 2nd hay, 3rd balcony ledge and 4th railing) compared to 3 before (1st barrels, 2nd hay and 3rd on the railing). This slows down pushes towards second mid significantly considering I feel the time was barely enough before. Another thing that feels not quite polished is the removal of the railings on second mid stairs under balcony. Before you could walk on the railings and jump straight towards balcony. Now if you jump too late it's way easier to mess up and miss the wall, or you have to stand on the wall and crouch-jump from there. I definitely like pit and small pit more. The removal of the graveyard wall too as it was a pain to clear in some scenarios.

[@hitts8928]

I hope they completely remake cache and mirage like they did with inferno

[@fred_or_xinyr3146]

The barking dog door still exists, though in an inaccessible walkway in apartments

[@iGoNorth]

Thanks for typing out the subtitles😁

[@lethalduck4928]

the changes to a site make it so good. the weird pixel gap kinda angle from balcony to boiler is gone, pit playes differently, the graveyard change(which is good cuz its a weird angle to clear) etc make it much more clean

[@junba1810]

I'd be really interested in a video analysing the existence of a loadout in CS2! I think it's cool, since it offers more strategic choices to the player but I am sad that I can't have the Pp Bizon or the auto noob just for troll rounds... Thanks for the video!

[@GreenClover0]

CT spawn also changed a lot. It was always weird fighting near these pillars and railings but now they are gone and everything is much clearer. T spawn also changed a little bit but nothing super ground-breaking

[@000BlackSoul000AMVs]

I hate this "much clearer" aspect of newer cs maps. hiding and map knowledge made up 50% of my enjoyment of cs go. there are enough fast paced shooters out there and I would much rather have more confusing spots to trick my oppenent then less like this.

[@SomniaCE]

The nice thing about making jumps like 3:25 easier is that it also makes them more intuitive to newcomers. I know starting out there were so many angles I would never check because it just didn't seem possible to get up there, or I'd assume it was some weird boost jump and never bother trying it myself. It certainly reduces skill expression but I really think its a positive more than a negative, especially in a game with as much depth and nuance as CS.

[@szilard1996]

I feel a difference in B as a CT (I was a B player). When Ts rush banana (on knifes), they can get top of banana before the CTs (I used to molly deep banana to slow them down => now I have to molly top of banana and the Ts aren't slowed down by the molly as before (they usually can run through without any simnificant damage) ). Peaking near the wall on top of banana now doesn't give such a powerful angle to ramp (you could peak Ts easy off with AWP on ramp), now that spot gives you a small gap to ramp (you have to have PRO reflexes to hit a shot there). Outside this small inconveniences, yes the map looks and feels amazing. PS: I forgot about the utility dropped to mid from A site....that wall makes it impossible to drop smokes/flashes to mid.

[@deonjvn]

In church, that walled off corner, I wonder if one can get boosted into the room.

[@nsf001-3]

5:59 Might also be a reference to the long-broken "test_speakers" map, complete with missing textures/models

[@y0bc0]

the reason i like inferno is all the unique features, which is all the stuff they're seeking to remove. i love the awkward fountain, i love the hiding spot in graveyard, i love the second balcony on aps window, i love terrace and the quad skill jump, i love the angled roof next to T balcony, i love the roof above T aps door. they're really unplugging a lot of the charm of this classic map and streamlining it to make it more "competitively viable" and intuitive. i'm not pleased with the new inferno.

[@everything-has-a-handle-now]

Maybe you can do a video about the current movement and try to give something more than "it feels wrong", "it's too floaty" or "the character feels heavy"

[@leviwuzere07]

Felt strange when you started talking about coffins being an obsolete call. I still call that spot spools

[@mynamejot8623]

It would be really funny if they added a single book back to “library”. Can totally see valve doing this as a gag

[@ohLurch]

idk how to feel aabou tnew inferno because I dont have access yet, but this video is extremely well made as usual. Thank you , Penguin.

[@BORED514]

The bird spikes are a really smart way of indicating you can't jump there, great video!

[@friendlyfirecsgo5470]

u missed potentially the biggest change, you can now molly pit from apps, without peeking pit, balances the map perfectly - great video! earned a sub

[@Notd0not]

One thing that kind of irritates me about the new Inferno are the road signs. Specifically the blue one with the arrows. Its supposed to tell the drivers who goes through a narrow road first. For some reason, they are identical on both sides. In reality, one of them should be blue square with arrows (as it is in the game) and the other one should be a white circle with a red outline, with arrows colored in the opposite way.

[@Koijn2K]

Is that how those signs look in Italy? Here they look the same from both sides, with just the color of the arrows switched.

[@DavidSantosManuel]

there are road signs in streets inaccesible by cars, I walked around trying to figure out how the parked cars made it inside the map, the only two possible entrances are between stairs and back alley (blocked by a van) and you could theoretically drive from ct spawn to b , then turn and go through banana, you wouldn't be able to turn right at t ramp because the road has stairs so the only option is going mid, the problem is the hole in bottom mid where the tunnel is that blocks off the road,.

[@pannomic1818]

pipes / apartments / whatever you call the upper entrance to A, is my favorite part, it feels the map more opened even that you actually can't go further

[@decowmon]

Library changed from a book library to a wine library.

[@npeswaggyrotmg8926]

On A site there’s a balcony by arch looking in A site’s direction that you can bounce Molotovs off.

[@anti6017]

4:53 Bro im playing CS since when coffins was still called cable and still call it cable and everyone understands my call

[@Nick-ij5nt]

You're not sure about the change to graveyard? That's literally the best change on CS2 Inferno.

[@toniderdon]

I mostly play Inferno and they removed some of my favorite angles, like peaking boiler from balcony.

[@Stix_Zidinia]

All of the official CS maps have this depth. Literally some of the best maps ever created for FPS games given the games mechanics. They're all almost perfect.

[@aerostorm_]

The adjustments they made to the map itself is perfect. However, the open skybox has broken T-side timings. They cannot reach mid or banana just because of one smoke and one or two mollies to T ramp.

[@Koijn2K]

Also, banana has an actual banana sign now. Pretty sick.

[@b4kk3rYT]

A video on the history of easter eggs. Ones that have been removed or ones we just got

[@McGamaStuff]

any content including cs_office fills my heart with glee :3

[@Sflreaction]

damn these videos are consistantly good. keep em up!

[@the_infinity_]

5:53 that couch is verry similar to one in old source 1 games also the tv fells like a nod to missing textures

[@suckatash2484]

The best thing they done WAs remove that wall on gravyard. Was a very op position or t's to hold for retakes, or ct's to hold entirely.

[@Lambcakez]

Earthbound music. I'm here for it

[@GnomeKr]

If the new Inferno is the new quality standard for maps made or approved for CS2 by Valve, then we just entered an era where competetive games can be both competetive and look visually stunning no matter what settings you use. Obligatory "RIP Valorant"

[@TheNatewag]

Just found your channel; great video essay man; gonna tune in.

[@Mihael_Keehl31]

I found the easter egg with the monitor in the first day I entered on the new map to test the smokes. One thing I`d like to point out, the sounds that we hear from the bots are from CS 1.6, maybe in source they were the same, but idk i never played source. Also, I like the new inferno too, it`s too bad that it`s the only map that has been remade completely...A remake of mirage would`ve been insane.

[@shady4071]

You can make a video on: * Why the AK and M4 spray feels off * Peeker's advantage in CS2 compared to CSGO * Movement in CS2 in general especially the bhopping * Changes to economy needed? * Weird models when moving and strafing * Skins which need fixing

[@jorgeskuf]

I love the colors in inferno and in CS2 in general

[@thegenericnerd6832]

Maybe you can do a video about potential Meta changes in the pro scene, like the reworked smokes, open skybox, custom loadouts, follow recoil (I think people might start binding it)

[@Nyllsor]

intresting video! Your l8test content is really great! Although i've always appreciated your vids on obscure maps. Cheers from Sweden!

[@Mates0nDeck]

the changes on balc are evil, also the bike in pit not having the lower side to head glitch is a huge nerf

[@Povilaz]

Very interesting! I love the new Inferno, but I wish they kept the boiler in "boiler". I don't mind "library" turning into a winery, but for some reason, I just really liked the boiler.

[@jurgenpeters1373]

This video aged like milk.

[@m.n.s.s2825]

xD

[@KILLOXY]

inferno was always my favorite map to play and watch. i’m actually super happy with what they did

[@ibrizzz]

Moment of silence for tic-tac-toe

[@stefan3597]

Video idea: Expectations for danger zone in CS2

[@CKellyCs2]

My biggest criticism is the door in apps! Where is it? We can’t wall bang balcony anymore

[@SethFrostV]

It'd be sick to get a new version of the outdated callouts with the new changes in CS2

[@cade1852]

For video ideas you could make one on CS2's gun models and which skins actually change gun models since I noticed some gun recolors like my Glock 18 Candy Apple and Dual Berrettas Adonized Navy do use the CS2 gun model, while some skins I thought would change model actually stay the CSGO model. I haven't investigated this aspect of the games much so it may be lamer to talk about then I think it would. I know this type of video is a bit ill-fitting compared to the content you usually make on Counter Strike and its rich history but to be honest skins bring a significant amount of attention to Counter Strike as proven by your sponsorship with SkinsMonkey and could be favoring to the algorithm even if you don't go the whole Anomaly and Ohnepixel type of content route down the road, same could be said for stickers too if you want to go that route since some stickers look a bit different between games. I also don't know if someone has made a detailed video on this topic yet either so I'm sorry if this idea is a fluke.

[@Chexsum]

library is now known as despot

[@jamesstone1509]

Thanks for bringing your deeper knowledge to the newer happenings

[@phaxvision]

Super nice video! good sound as well don't worry. Glad to see some ppl who also enjoy cs2!! ❤

[@Superokiko]

cs2 Inferno is absolutely fucking beatiful

[@robbasgaming7044]

Head is visible when standing up at car!

[@kammci5175]

I have one complaint. Valve please give us back the boiler. I don't want the newbies to call it a bookshelf or some shit like this in a few years.

[@nrok113]

This makes me want to start playing CS again. I never even played GO. Exciting

[@finlay460]

Great video man, looking forward to more Penguin CS2 uploads!!

[@ashnambers]

Honestly I think the call out of library being changed to something like cellar wouldn't be a bad call out change. Its short and easy (IDK if there already is a new one 🤷‍♂)

[@4thplace398]

Sick video bruss. How bout comparing those hard jumps to hit between csgo and cs2 (like that jump from balcony to patio)

[@CybergCS]

do you think the weapon difficulty stars are good/accurate ratings for the amount of skill needed for each gun?

[@1998goodboy]

Heres an idea for u To me cs2 feels like cs source again in terms of movement and aiming, especially with the deagle

[@KNDCHV]

Finally, someone else is praising Valve for their work. I used to be a Valve hater and Valve memer in the past. But over the years they showed that they are probably the only company that delivers when it comes to their products. I heard a lot of negative things about CS2 over the past week and I defended Valve with my life. I mean - ofc it's not CS:GO. It only looks like it. It's a completely different game on a new engine. Give time, give a chance. So far I love CS2, but I gotta agree that either the shooting or the servers are really bad as well as the peeker's advantage. Sometimes I can't get obvious kills because they ferrari peek me or because it's not registering any hits. I hope this is not the subtick system we were promised, but I still believe in Valve that this game would be amazing on release. Ofc there will always be things to fix, but they will deliver.

[@takdar]

Don’t be taken advantage of, don’t let people “react” to your hard work

[@ChopperKnrInbound]

You should do a video about Santorini. FMPONE is remaking it for CS2 as we speak and that would be an interesting video and also build hype for a map that I believe should be in the map pool

[@JangaLangaBanga]

I'm gonna miss standing on the railing on balcony :( Free kill the first time you used it as a CT every match, and then another free kill if you wait a few rounds to do it again.

[@tomasscotka7608]

Valve 2010 = Gods, Valve 2023 = Incompetent noobs and slackers

[@rhodocs]

I disagree about the removal of skilljumps, i think they add a lot to the game, but everything else is spot on. Great vid

[@MaszekMester]

In hungary we call the knifethrouing pubs library as you gain no many info while u there soooo. Bojler eladó :)

[@Vativ]

Glad they didn't change overpass, overpass is already very goated and not stale at all. No idea what you're talking about

[@jrcat2258]

Audio is great

[@telepixa]

loved the vid!! make a vid about all the dead callouts and why it is im so curious!!

[@InsaneFirebat]

6:26 Those aren't for birds. They're to make the homeless feel uncomforable and unwelcome.

[@mintcrystalsanimatio]

why is nobody talking about the fact that we went from like 10 flowerpots to like 50?

[@theartofjan5871]

Im still sad that they have removed the 'Via Adamo' sign at Banana ... almost feels like they removed a memorial of an ancient hero of bygone times and replaced it with meaningless clutter, leading to said hero slowy fading out of peoples memories :( at least I like to imagine that it is that tragic :P

[@Koijn2K]

Can you tell me what that sign was referencing? Who is this mighty hero?

[@theartofjan5871]

@@Koijn2K Adam 'friberg' the King of Banana