At our shop we line up the yellow dot with the valve stem all the time. It really doesn't take extra time to do this. As we lube the tire to mount it, we look where the dot is and where the valve stem is and just line them up and mount.
@dawabbitt30792 жыл бұрын
According to most of the information available to everyone on the internet - If your tire is marked with both a yellow dot AND a red dot - the RED dot takes precedence over the yellow dot. Cancelling out the high point (RED dot) takes precedence over the lightest point of the tyre (YELLOW dot) - which can be addressed with wheel weights. I work as a "professional tire-installer" and can tell you that mounting tires on a 2019 Honda Pilot SUV with 245/60R18's (and ESPECIALLY those with 245/50R20's) are difficult to keep either one of the dots lined-up PERFECTLY with the valve stem. And if they do wind-up being a little bit off, good luck with trying to manually twist that tire so they do. As a consumer - I would be more concerned that the installer 'rebuild' my bolt-in valve stems (replacing gaskets on OEM TPMS sensor), then I would that he/she lined-up those dots perfectly. I would ask if that will be an EXTRA cost - or is that included in the price of my new tires? As a consumer - I would be more concerned that the installer either hand-tightened (or gunned-on lightly) all of my factory lug nuts - and then torqued them to their factory specs. If each and every one of those lug nuts don't move a little when torquing them slowly, then they're already over-tightened. Over-tightened lug nuts can lead to premature failure and/or warped disc-brake rotors. As a consumer - I would be more concerned that the installer checked and re-pressurized my spare tire (which most consumers will NEVER check on their own). As a consumer - I would be more concerned that the tire installer had easy/clear access to my spare tire's carrier, so that he/she could lower it and check/set the air. As a consumer - I would be more concerned that 'I' left any wheel lock keys in clear view, so that he/she did not have to spend 15 minutes digging through my cluttered cargo area, center console, door pockets and glove box searching for it. (Wheel lock / Locking Lug Nut can be seen in this video at approx. the 11 o'clock position at 1:01 in this video). As a consumer - I would be more concerned that 'I' took the initiative to notify the sales personnel of ALL concerns related to my visit at their business BEFOREHAND - rather than hoping that all my needs be their number-one concern. Oh!?? And as a CONSUMER - I would NEVER.... EVER - bring my vehicle in to get new tires installed with the rims being covered in dirt / mud / grease / brake dust. The condition of your vehicle (outside AND inside) will directly effect any 'professional' tire installer's attitude toward your vehicle. Things like leaving your radio cranked up, the A/C or heater on HIGH, a trashed interior, a filthy exterior - All these things will immediately can / will put them in a negative mindset BEFORE they even pull your vehicle in for service.
@pauladams48332 жыл бұрын
I agree, if the customer doesn’t care about their car why should the technician
@gueto702 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most aggravating one. As customer who watched a KZbin video- you are not a professional mechanic. We don't care abought your "professional" critique.
@ranger1782 жыл бұрын
@@pauladams4833 if you are a professional then you should care more about the car than the owners . not having car washed is not an excuse to do poor work
@kevinstorm60092 жыл бұрын
Way to hijack the entire video comment section! Not very “professional” at all, are you?
@williammurray80602 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with your comments.
@Thestargazer562 жыл бұрын
I worked in the tire manufacturing business for over 30 years. The engineering that goes into assembling each specific type, size, handling, harmonics, dry and wet road performance specifications, etc. for each tire is incredible.
@nitinsambherao2174 Жыл бұрын
Can u tell which company or manufacturer provides these red and yello hot stamping foil for tyres, i want to buy in quantity
@cal30m1 Жыл бұрын
When I was in high school working in a garage. almost 50 years ago, all this stuff would be space age…
@michaeldoherty22896 ай бұрын
Yes and that is exactly why its so important for the installer to put the tires on the wheels correctly. All that science and technology goes to waste if they don't.
@rickbria84202 жыл бұрын
42 years of experience… The best way to balance tires is to use the road force feature of the balancer. It Computes the high spot of the rim and the high spot of the tire. Then directs you to rotate the tire relative to the rim so the two spots are opposite each other and minimizing their effect. Only then does it have you add the weights in the proper location. If the road force feature is employed, it doesn’t matter where the dots lineup. Also, The dots don’t know where the high point of the rim is. I would always start with a rim that has all the previous weights taken off.
@kittyhunter79 Жыл бұрын
Every tire i work with gets road force balanced. Saves excess weights being used and imo increases the life of the tire.
@earlbrown2 жыл бұрын
Back when I was a service manager, I used to balance the bare rims before putting on the tire. The valve stem area was never the heavy spot or the light spot. It was always completely random. Finding the actual heavy spot, then indexing the tire to minimize imbalance before beading up was always the way to use the least amount of weight (if any)
@bilnitro2 жыл бұрын
Did they have the pressure monitor?
@gregk.6723 Жыл бұрын
@@bilnitro The red dot gets lined up to a dimple that can be found on the inside of a rim. That is the heaviest part of the rim. Not ALL rims have that mark/dimple !
@achristian7015 Жыл бұрын
I would do that to my motorcycle rims to find the heavy spot and mount my tires accordingly. I use a static balancer that I made that is extremely sensitive.
@nzuncovered184511 ай бұрын
@@achristian7015Static balancer? What is that?
@achristian701511 ай бұрын
@@nzuncovered1845 Best you Google a motorcycle static balancer. Better that I explaining it here.
@quicksilver4622 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of NEW tires in the morning!
@paulstanley32652 жыл бұрын
Me too I just hate paying for it
@051069692 жыл бұрын
Definitely aline the yellow dot & explain to customer your service is being done the right way.👍
@CurtisDrew12 жыл бұрын
I have literally had tire installers laugh at me when I asked them to align the yellow dots with the valve stems when buying tires for my vehicles. Use to race sports cars and tire balance meant winning or losing with some racing tires. So I would have to demand they do as I ask, or I would cancel the sale and go across the street to their compettetors for my tires. Educated one young installer to the reason why and had to show him the facts before he was convinced. But he learned something that day.
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
*_"Educated one young installer to the reason why and had to show him the facts before he was convinced."_* You're what's known in the industry as a "squirrel". Trust me, they _laugh at you_ when you leave.
@OhanxxАй бұрын
Same. Just had an incident with a local shop today that got angry with me because I wanted the yellow dot lined up with the valve stem. The mechanic became super defensive and tried to start an argument while claiming he had 15 years experience and had never heard about this ridiculous theory of mine.
@V12BigBlock6 ай бұрын
How is the valve part of the rim the heaviest area when there's material missing to make room for the valve stem...
@michaeldoherty22896 ай бұрын
The valve stem is heavier than the alloy removed for the hole.
@autoacoustics49382 жыл бұрын
I always line the yellow dot with the valve stem , the less weight on a rim the better , if you want to go one step further there are wheel balancers that tell you where to reseat a tire on the rim to optimize the wheel weight.
@jojojack49752 жыл бұрын
Is that yellow dot where the tire seam is on the inside of the tire?
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
@@jojojack4975outside
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I wonder how many people who've recently bought tires are going to run out to their vehicles, check for "correct" red dot/yellow dot placement and proceed to go back to where they got their tires and complain about a "problem" that they never knew they had?
@abitoffcenter3832 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely amazing just how many tire "technicians" don't have a clue what match mounting is.
@skelthouser27302 жыл бұрын
When I was doing tires I always lined up the yellow dot with the stem (or at least pretty close). It would generally balance better and save on use of (often) expensive weights. If there was no dot or wheel asked for excessive amount of weight I'd usually deflate again and turn the tire 180 degrees and rebalance.
@SHSPVR2 жыл бұрын
I agree that what I was told back in 80's when install tires
@johndelper14042 жыл бұрын
As part of the diagnosis I usually wanted to see if the tires were actually causing a vibration, or if I should look elsewhere. Checking the balance before balancing tires I'll find that it now wants less weight but in the exact opposite position, so for my family, friends or regular customers I'd go slightly lighter 2-1/4 oz instead of 2-1/2 oz, it seems to work better in the long run.
@majesticrd71234 ай бұрын
What happens if we do not align the dots please respond thank you
@MrWiley32 жыл бұрын
Awe, I worked at Walmart for 2.9 years doing oil and tires. Most professional do it by the book and it's apart of their routine when doing tires so it's standard. The issue comes when your backed up heavy or you have someone in training doing your tires. Most of the time the tires are balanced well and you will not have any issues. It's best to have em checked every other oil change. Tire & lube tech. 👍🏼
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@LoneWolfSnowplowing2 жыл бұрын
“Every other oil change” isn’t a “thing”
@ralphchurch85902 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolfSnowplowing w
@lomgshorts32 жыл бұрын
Wiley67, I do my own mounting, balancing, oil changes so that I get what I want in my trucks.It is the only way to assure that things are done right.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking22592 жыл бұрын
Walmart didn't match up the yellow dot, there are no pressure monitors either. Should I take it back to get this done, or not?
@wildcat222 жыл бұрын
I only line the valve mark if I'm putting tyres on new wheels. Have found that on old used rims I could end up with 120g of weights no matter where the marks are mounted. Sometimes rim rounding will sort it out but most cases replace the rim is what I'd advise.
@spotless6242 жыл бұрын
yes it matters... if you know about road force balance you would line those marks up ..
@Blueknight19602 жыл бұрын
From what I have seen, most tires shops don't have a clue about those dots or don't care. I've never had a tire shop line up any of the two dots.
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
Or, maybe they _did_ and when put on the balancer they rolled like sh*t and/or needed an excessive amount of weight? 🤔
@michaelbutera66172 жыл бұрын
Yes , whoever's doing it should do it correctly, Period! If they don't take the time to do it then they can just not come through the door to work !
@BryanTorok2 жыл бұрын
My father always checked the red and yellow dots and their placement relative to the rim. He also looked at how much weight was used to balance the tire. If he saw this much weight applied, he would go back and make them do it over. They can break the bead and move the tire 90 degrees and try again. Yes, it is more work. But, if that is the best balance they can do with that tire, likely it is defective, even if that doesn't show up until a couple of years down the line.
@jplumbob2 жыл бұрын
On aircraft we only have the red dot and it’s lined up with the stem.
@robertrunkle91472 жыл бұрын
Extremely important when mounting motorcycle tires! Always balance with the least amount of weight on every application.
@don2deliver2 жыл бұрын
It's best to balance an empty motorcycle wheel first and mark those weights as permanent. You will find yourself adding no weight or one small one for any quality tire.
@hotrodray68022 жыл бұрын
Stick on weights inside the rim are being held even more securely by centrifugal force. It's most important that the weights be applied toward the inside edge and the outside edge for correct balance. Techs often glop the weights in one spot which most computer balance machines say is ok on one of their settings. The balance job won't last.
@gogojo70 Жыл бұрын
I had bf Goodrich installed on my Honda pilot and at highway speed>65mph it would vibrate. Took it back to the tire shop, had them realign the tires per this video and the vibration stopped.
@demirunlusoy27957 ай бұрын
Heaviest point of the rim is not always the valve stem of the rim. YOu can balance the rim without tyre or any weight and see that heaviest point is not necessarily always the valve stem. Valve stem area is the lowest point of the rim as I know but I have no proof.
@milesff72 жыл бұрын
I did it when I used to mount tires. Makes it easier to balance, using less weights, more profit margin.
@ericmintah51552 ай бұрын
Is true , because like me I didn't know much about the red n the yellow 🟡 but now I know and it's helping me when am doing balancing
@jrkaz60702 жыл бұрын
This depends.If a wheel has a light spot or a heavy spot, the dots can be used to make for the best achievable balance.In other words,sometimes its not the valve being used as a guide.One could use known heavy spots for example.IE where there was a large amount of weight previously placed.Hope this helps instill faith in your local tire tech's.🤘😎🤘
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
True statements. My installer might have used the old weights as reference and lined up that way. The last time I mounted and balanced a tire lip weights were still in use, so it might be easier with the sticker strips to try to line them up. Those sticker strips might make the ride smoother as well by distributing the weight over the lighter spots. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@chrish49772 жыл бұрын
I was taught to put the tire seam opposite of the valve steam. I never noticed red or yellow dots on the tires. I have been out of the auto scene for a while so maybe this is something new or only certian manufactures do.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure when this practice started, also, some manufacturers put the dot on the other side making the matching the opposite of what I said in the video.
@carnage50x2 жыл бұрын
It's a hit or miss if tires are dotted.
@johneverett39472 жыл бұрын
An important point you missed is any time a newer vech with a tire pressure monitor system “TPMS” comes in for new tires or tire rotation the TPMS should go through a relearn so it knows the location of each sensor to report accurate information. As an example, the right front tire is swapped with the right rear. The manufacturer’s spec ( which can be found on the driver’s door post) calls for 32 psi on the front and 38 psi on the rear. The right rear gets a slow leak. Since the vech still sees the tire as the right front it will not turn on the TPMS light until it’s lower than 30 psi and show it as the right front. So when you bring in the vech for repairs the wrong tire will be checked and no leak found. And just a final comment, when you bring in the vech put the wheel lock key on the dashboard or center console and make sure you get it back when you leave.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Valuable point. TPMS relearn is very important.
@WickeD-of-Oz2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@AZN-4-LIFE-U11 ай бұрын
I had to put a brand new set of tyres on today...glad I got the "auto re-calibration" TPMSensors 😊 (Honda). All I had to do was drive it normally city speeds and within 10 minutes...Voila...👍👌✌
@robsdeviceunknown2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool man, Thank you for your time. I never knew this about those dots.
@TargaWheels2 жыл бұрын
So far I've installed tires on 14, 15 and 16 inch rims at home (remove and install) without a tire machine. What I was told was yellow dot to the valve stem. If there's only a red dot, red dot to the valve stem. If there's a red dot and a yellow dot, red dot overrides the yellow, red dot to the stem. 4 different cars so far, never took them in for balancing, drove all the cars up to 70mph. No problems. In not saying I did it the right way, or anyone else did it wrong. It just worked out good for me that way. And will keep doing it that way until I get a vibration that wasn't there before changing the tires.
@brandonkennedy147511 ай бұрын
If you're interested, you're half right and I can provide a long winded explanation if you like. This is meant to be educational, not an attack. The red dot is more important but only if the rim has a low spot and you line the red dot with that point. MOST of the time, if the rim does not, you line the yellow up with the valve stem. You can try this at home, the red dot MAY require more weights. At the end of the day, as long as the weights are placed correctly, you're fine (no counter balance, double stacking, etc). Do also keep in mind, and unless this has changed recently, those dots don't mean the same thing for EVERY manufacturer. MOST are starting to standardize it but it's best to get the information from the manufacturer for what the dots actually mean. More people should be like you and learn to do these things themselves.
@brandonkennedy147511 ай бұрын
Honestly doing it at home though. If you have the time, move the tire all the way around the rim to find the best spot and use the least amount of weights. They're getting expensive.
@hobtink2 жыл бұрын
I’m 66, Many years ago in my younger years it was common practice to make sure the yellow dot lined up with the valve stem. Especially on stamped metal rims that were more likely to be somewhat out of round/true or just the rim alone required more hammer on wheels weights and a physically large or large number of wheel weights that would jump out at anyone with any knowledge. Modern wheel balancers are basically capable of balancing a square wheel but just like some tires with manufacturing anomalies will not always run smooth at all speeds.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Someone else recently said those strips spread out the weight and make it a little more subtle than a single heavier weight. Maybe these help it run smoother.
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureGearTV The more spread out they are, the more weights it takes.
@shawnyoung59607 ай бұрын
I just did four tires on my 2010 Town and country and I noticed that a quarter of the rim has some aluminum taken out of it and the valve stem in the middle so I think they took care of the extra weight from the sensor by removing some of the aluminum around that area
@charlesgould84362 жыл бұрын
I think the dots matter more on older steel rims.
@Zer0_Smith2 жыл бұрын
Should always try to line it up, when only one bead is on the rim it takes zero effort and two seconds to line it up. However, if it's a low profile or an LT, putting the second bead on can cause the tire to spin a little. After that, not a lot we can do that's not going out of our way.
@rimfire26422 жыл бұрын
I manually change the tires on my motorcycle. I've probably installed 5 or more sets of tires at this point. By following the dot over the valve method (+/- 1") I have NEVER had to adjust the original weights. I mean, literally perfectly balanced all sets with just a small weight which was installed with the original tires. No vibrations at any speed. Several different brands and models, Dunlop, Mettzeler, Bridgestone, and Pirelli. It's unfortunate tire shops can't follow this basic principle.
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
Bike tires and wheels are more precisely manufactured.
@lonewolfrcs13312 жыл бұрын
i worked at a tire shop for years my first job and i was trianed to line up the yellow dot with valve stem unless i seen a mark on the rim then line up the red mark it only takes a second if even that to line it up i learned to line it up as i mounted the tire to the rim
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. After your experience do you think it saves money on weights to line it up?
@sandrine10252 жыл бұрын
@@AdventureGearTV I just had maxxis razr A/T put on. They had lined up red dots to valve stems on three tires. There were no weights on the 3 tires. One tire the dot was not aligned and many weights. My xterra started driving poorly in one day. Multiple tires were not balanced, imo. I had lots of rolling resistance, steering was more effort, and the vibration in my steering wheel and car was getting pretty intense. I asked them to line up the yellow dot since I didn't see a notch on my rims for the red dot. 3 of my tires have minimal weights. One tire has a lot of weights... maybe that tire is a bit defective. I don't know. It's my rear passenger tire. Hopefully that's the better place for that tire. My car, so far, is running way smoother. I don't know much about the dots but I love Maxxis for my MTB tires so I'm looking forward to seeing how these do as long as they stay balanced.
@UnitedWeStand20202 жыл бұрын
I would think it would take longer to balance it with more weights than to position the red dot properly while mounting the tire. Only takes a couple seconds to put the dot where it belongs before inflating the tire. This should be mandatory practice at ALL tire shops!
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
So how do you know the low spot on 99% of the wheels? Guessing doesn't count.
@clarktruett29472 жыл бұрын
not sure it makes any difference in the end other than cost of weights if you balance it its balanced now if you match the high spot of the tire with the high spot of the wheel it could possible affect ride quality
@coladict2 жыл бұрын
Question about the pressure: My car has recommended pressures listed on the driver side door, but are those pressures when it's a cold start, or after I've traveled a while? Because typically even when driving in cold weather, the pressure will go up by 0.2-0.3 atmospheres (we don't use PSI), and it goes up by even more if I'm driving in the hot summer.
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
Cold.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
It’s normal for the pressure to go up while driving. Measure it cold.
@querepario472Ай бұрын
What size of tires and brand are you using ??? I have a 2017 pilot and I like those tires
@AdventureGearTVАй бұрын
Hi, I don’t recall exactly, but here’s another video about them on my pilot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eojUmH5ojqiDpMU
@DaveSomething2 жыл бұрын
I've done my rotation and found weights in several places around the rim... yeah, slight shimmy. I haven't done my own tires in 30+ years, I don't remember the dots, probably didn't exist. but oddly, I knew what the yellow one was for.
@JeffreyStrader10 ай бұрын
I have a set of 275/65/R20's on my 2019 RAM 1500 4x4 and two different tire dealers have not been able to balance them.
@MN2_Kevin_Hill_19702 жыл бұрын
Woohoo thanks for showing my company. Nothing like seeing my business in a video.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
What are the chances? There are probably thousands of tire shops in the country.
@lomgshorts32 жыл бұрын
Even though we do not have split rim wheels where the tire can rotate on the wheel, tires still can rotate on modern wheels that is why I put a red splotch of oil based paint on my tires, usually on both the tire and wheel to make sure they still line up after the balancing. Yes, the paint wears, so I occasionally renew the mark when I see it fade. It is not the manufacturer's fault the tire rotates on the wheel, but the way you drive that does it. Only one brake lockup to keep from hitting some driver that doesn't pay attention is enough to make your tire move on the wheel. Tires naturally exude oil, and that is enough to let the tire move on the wheel.
@carnage50x2 жыл бұрын
I've only ever seen tires "walk" is on race tracks.
@MN2_Kevin_Hill_19702 жыл бұрын
Oh and I am a professional tire installer and all my employees are trained to use the yellow dot. Doesn't always work because some directional tires only have the mark on one side of the tire. But yes I would return to have it done correctly.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. The funny thing is the most common comment I get is wipe off the dot. Besides the things shown in the video, the tires and balance work good. With almost 1,500 miles since mounting.
@jacob-no4tf2 жыл бұрын
using red or yellow dot depend on the condition of the rim. if there is no radial excess its a good idea to use yellow dot. otherwise red dot becomes more important to set.
@lancer19932 жыл бұрын
I'm very careful to not curb my wheels and tyres but a few months back in a tight car park I gave the back left a big hit which now appears to have damaged the tyre. They were checked at a speciality wheel repairer, not your local tyre shop. They added some more weights but it didn't help so now its my spare, luckily the spare is the same exact wheel and tyre and the tread is only 0.5mm less as its from my last set so about 3 years older but still legal and well within its life span. I'll probably get a new set of tyres in the next 18 months and will watch out for the colour markings.
@timothyosullivan29042 жыл бұрын
As far as i understand about the red and yellow dots are only found on Tyres are Manafactured in China , which are normally in the budjet range , Brands such as Dunlop , Continental , Michelin , Uniroyale , B F Goodrich, Goodyear, etc which are at the upper end of the market , are of a higher standard finish product , and when the wheels are being Balanced a very , small amount of balance weights are needed, and some times only one small weight is needed to get the job done , again saftey is a First , Good Quality tyres are important ,
@ranger1782 жыл бұрын
well that explains why i never see those dots because i put Michelins on my cars after having other brands mostly goodyear blow up on highways all different cars and models of tires and all kept properly inflated only half worn out. but never had a problem with Michelin
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Some brands use it and others don’t. It’s not a region of manufacture thing. They also wash off after a while.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, these tires were made in Buffalo, NY
@whitesapphire58652 жыл бұрын
I can imagine that it's more profitable to add more balance weights than is really necessary! Out of curiosity, what does a green dot signify? I've seen a fair few of those in the last ten years or so.
@mungox12 жыл бұрын
installers don't charge per weight, they would be happy if no weights were needed
@terenceiutzi40032 жыл бұрын
When I was installing tires it had to be aligned with the valve stem but I has since watched them on my own vehicles and noticed how they continual creep around the rim in the opposite direction of rotation as I drive! So am I wasting my time placing them correctly?
@jefflancaster658710 ай бұрын
Why didn't you tell them beforehand to line the dots up closer to the valve stems?
@abrahamalviarez5870 Жыл бұрын
thank you sir, as new driver this info is very useful! 🙂
@peterallam64942 жыл бұрын
24/7 22 lf a tyre is repaired /vulcanised should the wheel be re-balanced afterwards. What happens if the coloured dots have disappeared ?
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
*_"lf a tyre is repaired /vulcanised should the wheel be re-balanced afterwards."_* It really depends on who's repairing the tire and/or company policy. You can either remount the tire on the wheel in the same position it was originally on or rebalance it. The weight of a patch doesn't throw off the balance. *_"What happens if the coloured dots have disappeared ?"_* Absolutely _nothing_ of consequence.
@justintarvid Жыл бұрын
In theory if both a yellow and red dot are present the red dot supercedes the yellow dot and you put the red dot on the valve stem.
@aureliorubio73922 жыл бұрын
I currently work at a tire shop. I have been there for about 2 years. Yes you try and go by the book. But there are always problems. So one tire can ask for zero weights and others can ask for 10 ounces. If you work at a tire shop then you know what I mean. My point is, by the book or not your going to have problems. Oh and by the way even if you balance out the tire. There is still the chance of a manufacturer's defects..
@robertschulke15962 жыл бұрын
Used to be you could get your tires trimmed after they were mounted and balanced so the tread surface was perfectly round and concentric with the wheel bearings. You can actually get a smoother and quieter ride, and better handling at high speed.
@hotrodray6802 Жыл бұрын
Yup, shave off 3,000 miles on brand new tires.
@robertschulke1596 Жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 actually, the tires would last longer due to running smoother. Unless the grease monkey got carried away. Oh well.
@travis15552 жыл бұрын
3:24 that's the toaster light, toast is done time for a samich 😄
@cinorom38032 жыл бұрын
Seems that manufacturing has improved. Most tires and rims are factory balanced, so I just put them on, and have had maybe 5 out of 100 be off. Mind you, this is out of my personal shop where I'm not paid. but I'll balance em if there's A problem, or they ask.. Most of my friends know how to work the machine. They just gotta take their old tires with.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Those are pretty good numbers. Your friends must appreciate the garage.
@don2deliver2 жыл бұрын
No tire is balanced or checked for high spot out of round after it comes out of the mold. They may test one or 2 out of a batch of hundreds and assign dots accordingly to the whole batch. The main reason I would line up yellow dots would be to lower the chance of unnecessary noise coming from a customers mouth.
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
_"The main reason I would line up yellow dots would be to lower the chance of unnecessary noise coming from a customers mouth."_ **BINGO!!!**
@MFGus-fb6up2 жыл бұрын
100% Correct. Have mounted and balanced thousands of tires and the dots are a joke. Sometimes ya line em up, put em on the balancer and it wants maybe 6 oz. of weight. Deflate, Break beads, Turn tire 180 degrees so that all important little dot is opposite the valve stem or mark on wheel or little green sticker and then put back on balancer and now it only needs 1.25 oz. total, happens all the time, and yes it was chucked up right on the balancer, already checked that. The answer to the dots is Acetone or Brake clean, wipe that crap off and don't give em a reason to question it. If they do I tell em " take it for a drive, if it shakes come back and see me" they never have to come back.
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
@@MFGus-fb6up -- And, even if zero weight is needed, always put a .25 oz. weight on the outside so they won't complain that "the weight came off" or you didn't balance it "properly".
@Debrajoy2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to go look at my tires I didn't even know they had dots! I wonder if they wear off 💜
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Those dots are paint, and wear off after a few weeks of driving. The good thing is that if your tires aren't wobbling, then your ok. But, if the installer didn't line them up, then they wasted weights.
@shanedingz Жыл бұрын
That’s embarrassing. I’d never send a wheel out of the shop with that many weights on it.
@red7fifty2 жыл бұрын
Make sure the guy pulls the sticker off the tire before balancing. That tire sticker can cause 1/4 oz out of balance.
@MFGus-fb6up2 жыл бұрын
Nope, already debunked that myth many times. Stood there and picked all them little rocks out of the tread too and doesn't make any difference.
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
@@MFGus-fb6up -- *_"Stood there and picked all them little rocks out of the tread too and doesn't make any difference."_* True story! Customer: _"See! It's out of balance!"_ (balancer shows .25 on the "show side") My brother: *"How much do you think all of those little rocks weigh?"* 😆
@porksboy2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to check the lug tourque. Never trust the "tourque sticks" most places use. Use a proper Tourque wrench to do it, then check them again at about 100 miles driving.
@dobermanpac10642 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m sure billy bob is fully trained in the technology.
@TexasScout2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not I’m old enough to remember that in the days of recaps and retreads, most tire shops had a tire shaver. If the tire was out of round from a poorly executed recap, you could put it on this truing machine and true up the tire perfectly round by shaving a little bit of rubber off here and there until you got a perfectly round tire. I have not seen one of those machines since the 70s.
@earlbrown2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those machines for myself a few months ago. It was made in 1970.
@TexasScout2 жыл бұрын
@@earlbrown The last one I saw was in Rockport Texas in 1972.
@Santor-2 жыл бұрын
Love the fact you got to the point right away. Far too many videos go on and indefinitely before getting to an actual point. Often have to read the comments to find the point quicker instead. Not with this video though, great job!
@eberzen15 Жыл бұрын
How do you like the tire so far??
@AdventureGearTV Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for asking. I recently made an update about the tires here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eojUmH5ojqiDpMU
@mmnnra552 жыл бұрын
It took a lot of coordination between the engineers that designed the car and tire manufacturers who supplied the rubber to meet that spec... The engineering and coordination between manufacturers gives the buyer the best chance of getting a vehicle that will perform to a higher standard and greater performance. The real question dumb dumb is what do you think the right thing to do is. Trust your new car and tires to the engineers that designed it or the 18 year old kid that dropped out of school to install tires. From this point on everything you do with the car should be proactive. Sit down and read the freaking owner's manual. Find out what the torque spec is for the rims bolted to the car. Improper torque of aluminum rims on a vehicle is just one cause of tire and rim failure. There are many.🤨
@obiggalo2 жыл бұрын
Again prove your point
@carldietz97672 жыл бұрын
It's there for a reason!
@chargermopar2 жыл бұрын
I install my own tires and always try and line up the dot.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Nice! It only takes on second.
@cal30m1 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad my car does not have a TPI system; with OCD if all tires were not exact I would be out there everyday with the air line….
@leanne73062 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this information. Learned something new today. Loved your music. 😊
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Leanne! I’ve been told it’s too loud for some, but liked the rhythm.
@bsmith82974 ай бұрын
They say yellow dot opposite the valve stem, that actually means adjacent to the valve stem
@timmcclannahan83092 жыл бұрын
Always take the time
@martinf9626Ай бұрын
If you have a yellow dot and a red dot , aligne the red dot with the valve , If you have only one Colors aligne this Colors dot with the valve . You Will need lest weigh. The red dot passes first
@bobbymikeАй бұрын
Even IF the tyre was fitted exactly how u want it as where u want the dots to be by a tyre fitter and u are happy with it even then if u hit a pothole a weight can fall of even in your mind it's been fitted perfectly.....there is too much misinformation on this subject every manufacturer tells u different things for there tyres, the guys at the tyre shop have a difficult job as it is but until all the theory's are brought into line n everyone follows the one accepted process it will always be like this...if your not happy balance them yourself....oh you can't can you...
@watchurcoins2 жыл бұрын
The reality is that there are millions of cars on the road with dots not properly lined up and for the most part they are not having problems, it's one of them things where it will work just fine but it's just not the best way to do it. Perhaps all I stallers should be properly trained so that they are all on the same page, many installers at small mom and pop shops mainly do patches and hardly balance tires and they move so fast that they pay no attention to anything more than slapping tires on and moving on to the next tire
@TheGregWallace2 жыл бұрын
So looks like you had a bad install..... Why would you not tell the installer to mount the tires correctly.
@josephmcclung92222 жыл бұрын
Back when tires ONLY had the yellow dot, I always aligned it with the valve stem. However, since the shift to BOTH red and yellow dots on the sidewall, the general consensus is that the RED dot takes precedence and should be the one that is aligned with the valve stem.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Correct, the red dot takes precedence.
@webcrawler3332 Жыл бұрын
The issue in my book is the tire installer isn’t doing their job right! We pay them to be technically trained and when they don’t line the dots up with the valve stem. They aren’t doing what their supposed to do.
@AdventureGearTV Жыл бұрын
It is interesting that some folks say that it doesn’t matter. But, why would the manufacturer waste time with the paint if it didn’t matter.
@webcrawler3332 Жыл бұрын
@@AdventureGearTV Exactly! Even if it doesn’t do or mean anything, why not just do it? I didn’t know this about the dots, but now I’m going to the tire guy to line them up next t8me I get tires.
@votered15522 жыл бұрын
The manufacturer doesn’t even line them up.
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
A robot probably mounts most factory car tires.
@scottfranson42152 жыл бұрын
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@x-man50562 жыл бұрын
"Inverted balloon"? How about a cross section of a tire? See the tread at the bottom? Tire installers don't pay any attention to those dots. IDK why. Sort off angers me. The dots make sense and are useful to any installer who cares to exhibit, "professionalism", not many around anymore I guess. If you want that to happen, you'd better get it in writing first.
@brendabowman6222 жыл бұрын
Most installers that don't pay attention to those dots do so because they have _experience_ or have been trained by people that have mounted thousands of tires and have seen first hand how infrequently they matter to ride quality. The importance of the dots are minimal to nonexistent to the end user.
@monoshock572 жыл бұрын
Balance beads and align the yellow dot and your good to go.
@jxherrАй бұрын
Your TPMS light just being on, DOES NOT indicate a broken sensor, a FLASHING TPMS light indicates problem with you TPMS (could be bad sensor, could be bad TPMS Module ect) also for those who don't know (I get them all the time) the TPMS light DOES NOT mean you have a flat, please quit wasting our time and yours by not trouble shooting first, if you don't know how to, come ask your tire technician, if they don't want to help you, find a new one asbohey don't care about your time, only your money!
@deancurtis84442 жыл бұрын
line it up !!!
@erk67002 жыл бұрын
Stop playing. Music too loud and unnecessary
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for your feedback.
@suesmith57462 жыл бұрын
Music was pleasant and not loud, maybe your speakers are out of wack. I am a 75 yr old woman who drives a small class B camper van alone all over the country this years plan is about 5000 miles minimum. I am very happy for all your information. None of the men or women in my family could even change a spark plug.In the 50's and 60's you could get a drivers license at 14, but in addition to passing the state test my mother watched you change a tire with an old bumper jack, then you got the keys to go to the school game. I learned on a 1949 plymouth. With a split windshield and a viser, and no turn signals, you had to roll down your window and use hand signals. When I got my first license in 1963, the examiner had me make 4 right hand turns around the block, said kid if you can drive this you can drive. I had spent 4 extra weeks practicing parallel parking.
@ikemen12 жыл бұрын
I never knew anything about the yellow dot. I'm 70
@AdventureGearTV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this!
@erastuserazade97852 жыл бұрын
Good telling of what ought to be tribal knowledge. Good to know, now , that yellow and red marks on tire is for a purpose, not random tag done for the “halibut “ .
@kc0lif2 жыл бұрын
i never seen any dots on tires
@aaronclawson8352 жыл бұрын
Always tell them to line the dots up cuz most of the places they have no idea and they look just like the ones on his
@Slithey74332 жыл бұрын
That’ll certainly endear you to them, eh?
@MeaHeaR2 жыл бұрын
OMG é Power-Phull Murrikân
@tucobenedicto1092 жыл бұрын
Road Force Balence!
@trd4d2 жыл бұрын
I think you are smoking something.
@GT-432 жыл бұрын
If the tires were quality tires they wouldn't need those dots.
@benhansford85242 жыл бұрын
What if
@Slithey74332 жыл бұрын
Who would ever buy new tires and not want them balanced?
@noluck332 жыл бұрын
If they do not do it right don't pay them and make them do it again!!!