The Swapper Ending -- No Commentary -- SPOILERS

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Asher Games

Asher Games

Күн бұрын

Second Option: 1:54
The Swapper is a masterful game worth playing to the very end, but there is no way to go back to get a different ending once finished.
In this video are the endings available in the game without audio commentary. The first one is the "Swap" ending. The second one (starts at 1:54) is the "Stay" ending.
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@tedfalkenrath1042
@tedfalkenrath1042 10 жыл бұрын
Never buying a pet rock...
@NightNord
@NightNord 9 жыл бұрын
My take is that both theories are right - mind is just a chemical process and there is something more as well. The "something more" is actually being a process. Not just some random reactions, but chain of reactions, a loop. If loop is broken and then restored - that's someone else is now. So The Swapper should actually be called "The Linker" or "The Chainer", because it doesn't swap souls, but instead link brains. When you create a clone, you create a clone which brain is linked to yours - running the same process across two brains. I found operation systems analogue pretty close - it's like an OS running across multiple physical machines over the network, but with all the connection done on low-level. So for high-level OS it's just like once machine with multiple CPUs. So, when you are cloning yourself, you are not multiplying your mind - it's still you, just running across multiple bodies. When a clone dies it's just like OS losing a CPU. Unless that was a CPU kernel was running on - that's ok. But if that was a CPU kernel was running on - the operation system will crash. So when you dies - game over. Same goes here - your mind is running across multiple brains, but one brain is a "host" one. So the second option of The Swapper is send an energy jolt somehow forcing your mind process to swap the host brain. An OS kernel is usually capable of doing so, so, in OS with hotswap CPUs, you may move the kernel to other CPU and disconnect the one it was just working on. It's being done by sending a command to the kernel. The Swapper is such a command of kinds. But it becomes interesting when you disconnect a clone from your brain without killing it - like when Scavanger jettisoned her clone (probably just because being afraid of what happened - hence clone swinging hands in panic). When a clustered OS loses connection between two parts it may became two OS each thinking it lost some of it's resources. It doesn't happen in case of hardware-level clusters, because there is only one kernel, but probably that's where the analogue stretches to it's limits. Human brain always runs a process even if it's just a part of bigger multi-hosted process. And if there is no host - it becomes a host. Like P2P games - host lost, new host. Some information is lost in a process and the result will probably be different from the original, but that's ok because it's not you anymore. It's someone else. So The Watchers, I assume, were not intelligent initially. The only one was - The Head. Others were just reflections of his intelligence - his brains in a chain. But when humans came and started to bring them to the station, they became disconnected one by one and established their own intelligence - sometimes trivial, sometimes more complex - depending on what part of the process they where running and how much processing power they had. When humans took The Head from the planet in lost most of it's brains and processing power. It also reconnected with lost ones, but decided not to suppress their new minds for some reason, but it was capable of doing so (they talk to each other, but when The Trio swaps into The Head they all start talking as a trio). Instead it's attempted to make new brains by connecting humans working around. That's the technology humans reverse-engineered into The Swapper. But human brain is not up to the constant connection. It needs rest to function properly. And The Head is a huge stone - it doesn't need rest. So once a human becomes connected to the chain, it sees strange dreams and become more and more tired. Eventually brain just switches off due to exhaust - that's the "sickness" that was killing the crew symptom of which was an ability to talk to/to hear The Watchers. And the last part - when The Scavanger used The Swapper on brains she doesn't swapped with one of them. Instead - she created a connection between them. So they've got three processes running across three brains and one body. Each got enough processing power to think their thoughts, but only one was capable on controlling the body. So they did not merged - we know that human brain is capable of running two processes at the same time - hence split personality. When they've swapped/linked to The Head, they've just suppressed it (probably due to dominant human intelligence - sick humans were not "possessed" by The Watchers, they've only experienced mildly odd dreams when most of their brain should be switched off) and suppressed all other linked watchers. But they've got problems with that when station crashed into the planet - human mind is not used to work across so many hosts, so probably they've just assimilated in. The strongest mind (the aggressive one) was concentrated/focused enough to give you the last "advice". I think it was possible to split them back by creating a clone, "swapping" the current host process into the clone (pushing other processes away from it and pulling the current process into it) and then instantly breaking the link somehow. Not an easy task and "pushing other processes" part is tricky, but that's the experiment that was clearly missing. Maybe it will work if there are three clones and you "swap" to all three at the same time - each mind goes to one and then link is broken. But maybe other processes leftovers (as only hosts/kernels are moving) will mess you up anyway. So with all that the endings are pretty much logical. If you stay/jump off the ledge The Watches (who also are a community of minds now, as The Head was disconnected from them) will say that you've chosen to preserve identity, even for a short period. If you've swapped - you are not "swapped and killed Marcus", you've linked two brains, pushed your mind into Marcus' brain (and that the tricky part with the experiment proposed above - either you've pushed Marcus mind back into your body or you've just taken a place along with it.). Probably Macrus ended up with a split personality or it's you, but with Marcus identity partially merged into your process - creating a new person essentially. Anyway, what's missing here is an ending when you swap-jump into the shadow below the blue light and "what the hell??!" run into the ship saving yourself and preserving your identity. You'll be probably save out of planet's reach and will also grant humanity The Swapper - a key to immortality and body change (as long as body doesn't posses it's own mind at the moment of swap)
@Raikaska
@Raikaska 9 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Great explanation
@Raikaska
@Raikaska 9 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Great explanation
@goatmeal5241
@goatmeal5241 8 жыл бұрын
One cool fact I thought I'd add: since the same process is occurring in up to 5 heads, that means they all are receiving and acting on sensory input from the 'alpha', and would subjectively FEEL like they were in the alpha's body. Right up until their clone body disappears or dies, they'd feel like they were in the alpha body. They wouldn't even feel pain as they die, since that's a sense and would therefore be determined by what's happening to the alpha. It's an interesting departure from the way it's done in The Prestige; for most of the game I thought it was building up to an "oh my god you've been killing yourself over and over' revelation, but I like that they went with a different mechanic. Also, it's a good thing the clones' swapper guns don't work, or this game would be a lot more complicated.
@D3w10n
@D3w10n 6 жыл бұрын
Your theory is wrong (in relation to our universe) cos it violates an UniqueID clone chance, Theseus ship theorem, The cognitive center (from which eyes are you seeing? All off them? How can your brain process these many sensory inputs?) and many more... my only solution for this paradox is to make "UniqueID" into "UnversalID" for a core of cognition (I am not going to label it "soul"). Now what is it? Process? A pattern that arises from complexity? Maybe its a hidden variable present everywhere in the universe at very low amounts that can be amplified/concentrated by adding a material processing and memory elements? I do not know. But my theory has no paradoxes. That is the only thing I have for its validity. To simplify it in your terms: Body = Most barebone hardware; Brain = Processor; HDD = Memory; OS = Internal realization of external universe; Soul = The most basic meaning of information, that arises from just having the essential two different bits (0, 1) that can create infinite complexity. There is a fucking meaning in it clear as day yet invisible to us. It annoys the fuck out of me.
@hayberdasher8625
@hayberdasher8625 Жыл бұрын
@NightNord Your explanation needs more detail
@alistairpage-mcgill2723
@alistairpage-mcgill2723 7 жыл бұрын
Jumped off, realised that if I wanted to see the other ending I'd have to play the ENTIRE game again, came here
@yusufurkantekin
@yusufurkantekin Жыл бұрын
Same with me, happy that i jumped off
@hayberdasher8625
@hayberdasher8625 Жыл бұрын
I did the swap, otherwise same
@Plo-nf3rd
@Plo-nf3rd 11 жыл бұрын
you can really call it a much deeper ending, the second one
@NenaElf
@NenaElf 11 жыл бұрын
Eh, the plot line was a bit rocky.
@sunitram
@sunitram 11 жыл бұрын
NenaElf I thought it was rock solid.
@RoboticMagus
@RoboticMagus 11 жыл бұрын
The second ending had a huge plothole.
@onyhow
@onyhow 11 жыл бұрын
RoboticMagus What plothole?
@TwoWholeWorms
@TwoWholeWorms 11 жыл бұрын
RoboticMagus *facepalm*
@ousooners5193
@ousooners5193 11 жыл бұрын
I don't think dignity has anything to do with it. I think it's more about posing the question, "what would you give up to survive?" The antagonist, the 3 minds in one body, is the logical extreme of this argument. Of giving up your very identity to survive. And each mind has a different idea of what life is worth once you've given up that identity. More existentially, it also asks the question "is the mind more than the brain?" to which the story offers many divergent conclusions. All in all one of the most beautifully crafted, engaging and emotional games I've ever played.
@amoungthefree
@amoungthefree 11 жыл бұрын
Actually the ending has nothing to do with survival. Infact the ending is quite simple. Mid to late in the game you find out that members of the crew/doctors have been performing swaps and they almost always lead to memory loss and split points of memory/view. There is actually no such thing as a "stay" or "swap" ending. The choice at the end is really perspective and not changing what really happens. For instance we can assume by the logic that if swapping fucks up someones memory. Then if you choose the stay ending you are just the old version of the mind who isnt aware of the swap happening.
@ousooners5193
@ousooners5193 11 жыл бұрын
amoungthefree There's a mention of sickness involving memory loss and confusion but that's something that originates from the watchers.When we finally learn of the condition of the antagonist we see that there are 3 minds simultaneously existing in one body. The swapper doesn't erase or disrupt memories, it takes the mind of one person and switches it with the other (obviously the case of the antagonist is unique, because there was no second body to swap to). It's important to note that the game assumes that the mind is different from, or separate from from the brain. When you choose to swap to the rescuer at the end, you save your mind but lose your body. You know this because of the way the other rescuer reacts to you, she sees that something is intrinsically different.
@Themingemoblie
@Themingemoblie 10 жыл бұрын
ousooners5193 The mind is clearly implied to be of a higher stature than the brain or anything organic or chemical inside that. The 'mind' that you send into other bodies, is probably a soul.
@user-eh1no3yc5v
@user-eh1no3yc5v 8 жыл бұрын
This amazing game is based on the ancient Greek ''PARADOX OF THESAUS''. After Thesaus had killed the Minotaur in Crete and returned to Athens as a hero, they kept his Ship as a monument of Heroism, to remind people of his Courage. As years went by, the wooden parts of the Ship started to fall and then they decided to REPLACE the former wood parts with new ones. THEN the question was raised: AFTER THE REPLACEMENT, WAS IT STILL THE SAME HEROIC SHIP OR HAD IT LOST ITS GREATNESS?
@different_stuff
@different_stuff 3 жыл бұрын
actually this question was raised after there were so many parts replaced, that there were no original parts in this ship. So at that moment it was a decent question
@feathero3
@feathero3 2 жыл бұрын
@@different_stuff Well I feel it's a decent question regardless. How many parts must you lose before you are a "different ship?" I mean as it not a different ship when it had the original steering wheel, but literally every other part had been replaced?
@FrozenZerg
@FrozenZerg 9 ай бұрын
@@feathero3 Interresting theory but if we also go out of the sci fi scenario of that game, can we consider a human be the same being all along his life ? I mean our body is replacing slowly all his cells with time. It's freaky to think about that and that's an idea which always spooked me. Same kind of thoughts is present in the game NieR Automata in a sidequest where one npc which is an Androïd, asks you to bring him something and in the end he confess to you that it is some spare parts for his body, but he takes a moment before starting to fix his body because what he gonna change is the last part of his original body, making him realize how blank his being is. This game is full of deep thoughts like this and sometimes you do the parallel with our own conditions of human beings.
@normanosbourne5972
@normanosbourne5972 10 жыл бұрын
I swapped out of reflex because I was prompted but I immediately regretted it.
@scarlet__eye9489
@scarlet__eye9489 9 жыл бұрын
me too!
@niklassoderberg2168
@niklassoderberg2168 10 жыл бұрын
You can't go back. You can stay and die. You can jump and die. You can swap and (if you had a choice, go left and die) go right, the other dude will to. Always will someone die. They always try to rescue a person, that jumps to her/his death. One of the best endings in a game ever.
@LibertarianLeninistRants
@LibertarianLeninistRants 4 жыл бұрын
that would be really interesting, first swapping, then go to the left and then you fall but try to go right by falling...so that both would fall down lol
@RMJ1984
@RMJ1984 11 жыл бұрын
Why cant bigger companies learn from indie devs. there really are some amazing indie devs out there, that know how to make a freaking emotional ending "the stay on the planet one" This was the one i took, i havent tried the other, im quite happy with this ending. Also amazing game.
@ousooners5193
@ousooners5193 11 жыл бұрын
To avoid something worse? Life.
@facundomello9266
@facundomello9266 2 ай бұрын
Immortality*
@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster 10 жыл бұрын
Philosophically it is a bit contradictory. Our identities are made out of our memories and the continuity between these memories. Call this continuity "the chain" if you will. By swapping to your own clone, you break this chain. From the perspective of the original body (the conscious you), you die. The clone gets a copy of you up to your last second and feels as if there is continuity, but your clone feels it, not you. For everyone else, the clone is exactly the same as you. In fact, the clone will say it was you and will talk about how the experience of swapping bodies was over in an instant and did not hurt at all. Think about it, where where _you_ while you were in the process of being swapped, while the swapper beam was halfway between brains? This is where the Watchers get it wrong: At the end, _you_ don't die to protect your identity, your _clone_ does. _You_ committed suicide the very first time you swapped into a clone of yourself.
@KarnBlueEarring
@KarnBlueEarring 10 жыл бұрын
Exact thing what I thought, when I first started the game.
@metodoinstinto
@metodoinstinto 10 жыл бұрын
I think when they say that "the mind will retain its identity", it means our true identity is our choices. When you choose not to swap the guy and die on the planet, you choose "the right thing", "the good path". We are only our dignity and our righteous self. If you choose to let this go, you lose yourself, you lose your identity. The mind retain its identity because it proves that, after all the clones it killed and all the shit it's seen in this game, that it still has a "soul" and is still able to value life.
@ArchivedFox
@ArchivedFox 10 жыл бұрын
clone or not it was still a clone of you. If you switched with that guy you would take his identity. *cough*and-doomed-an-innocent-person-to-die-in-your-place*cough* I chose to stay btw
@xZironx
@xZironx 10 жыл бұрын
just seen from the point of the game. You swap with a clone, but your original body is still there, but your consciousness (controls) is in the clone you swapped to. Meaning that there has to be a consciousness (soul) which gets swapped, because if not, your original body should still be able to do the things it wants to.
@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster 10 жыл бұрын
Yuri Naitomea I think the old body becomes a vegetable when the memories get transferred. Maybe the only way to read the memories results in the destruction of the source. My argument is that by taking a snapshot of your identity, killing your identity in your current brain and then creating an exact replica in another brain, you break the chain of consciousness and thus you don't get to see how the new body feels; or, in the great words of Arnold Schwarzenegger, _YOU ARE NOT YOU, YOU'RE ME._
@ivanbelic4773
@ivanbelic4773 9 жыл бұрын
I knew the right thing was to stay on the planet, not to endanger crew of a rescue ship and maybe whole human kind...yet...i was weak...fear of death overcome me so i swapped :-P
@MarllonMart
@MarllonMart 3 ай бұрын
i randomly remembered this amazing game while scrolling through my old steam account, definitely a masterclass in setting the tone of a narrative
@lilkonna
@lilkonna 10 жыл бұрын
I feel as though the majority of people swapped but at the time it wasn't a hard choice as I knew right when it gave the option that I wouldn't swap. I'm with Dennett's mindset, our mind is our brain and if we swap consciousness we would lose who we are and not even know it.
@Darmesis
@Darmesis 9 жыл бұрын
I handed my controller to someone else and went to Gamestop and traded in some old games. Don't know which ending they picked - when I got home there was just a controller lying in the middle of the floor...
@danhorus
@danhorus 9 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, the other ending was just as powerful. I loved this game!
@eggsandchips91
@eggsandchips91 9 жыл бұрын
A rescue ship without any basic rescue abilities besides "hey you, hop on board"!? Bit of a plot whole but to be honest it doesn't matter. Game was fantastic, I decided to stay
@Faewilds.System
@Faewilds.System 8 жыл бұрын
my guess is it does have some. but perhaps just not a full quarentine area.
@Londonlink
@Londonlink Жыл бұрын
You would think that they had equipment that could get you over to the other side at least. They literally said that is the 3rd time it happened so wouldn't that mean they went through this 2 previous times but didn't think to start taking precautions for future people like a rope or something they could throw to the other side and have someone swing over.
@PetionC
@PetionC 5 жыл бұрын
second option is so deep that they almost find oil down there
@jhrtelem
@jhrtelem 10 жыл бұрын
I stay on the planet because i tought i could swap later into a rock. Then, with the other three, do something to make contact with Earth, explain what happen and go back to human form with clones. We would have a lot of time to try. But the game killed me. It gave me one more chance, but i didn´t change my mind.
@TheKnomad
@TheKnomad 10 жыл бұрын
I couldn't swap. I was like, "Oh, after all that, that's it for me? I could swap..... but I'll take the leap."
@ariaandkia
@ariaandkia 10 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, I had one clone left at this point since I set myself up to kill off a clone for just in case during that last puzzle. It wouldn't let me use the cloning machine T_T . Funny though that after the swap, you have control over both bodies still just like a normal clone.
@bundeligafan
@bundeligafan 7 жыл бұрын
If you think about the two endings, they are actually just one ending. In both endings the person on the left falls down (jumps), and the person on the right walks back to the ship. The only thing that changed is that you swapped your playable character.
@RMJ1984
@RMJ1984 7 жыл бұрын
More than that. Its about you having the right to take over another person's body. personally i don't think you have that right. Its extremely selfish. Not to mention what is learned on that planet, is best contained and should stay there.
@nightcawc
@nightcawc 10 жыл бұрын
When they say that's the third one this month at the swap ending. You know that the others on the ship have all been swappers in the past. WHAT A TWEEST
@Akrasia94
@Akrasia94 9 жыл бұрын
nightcawc they are just a rescue team so I think it just a line that they've had 2 other deaths. One of the logs says they've haven't heard from Thesus in decades.
@justinf4335
@justinf4335 9 жыл бұрын
I swapped. Survive at all costs.
@approveOoops
@approveOoops 11 жыл бұрын
It took some time but i walk this game one more time just to find it out. There is no 3rd ending. If you swap with Marcus and then jump off the cliff the game just starts from last checkpoint, like if you die. The same would be if you jump off before the game give you a choice of the ending.
@jetli3333
@jetli3333 8 жыл бұрын
pretty tough choice
@cytos1694
@cytos1694 8 жыл бұрын
i swapped because i figured perhaps they don't have the tech with them, but who knows what they can do where they come from. it is tech after all that caused the issue, there is a chance they can undo it. i doubt they never sent back any transmissions of there findings, so there is a good chance i thought that scientists know enough to maybe undo it. later i realized that even if they can not undo it, without you swapping at the end, the next time someone comes around they will have the same issues (harvest special rock, get sick but its already to late etc..), while if you go with them and swap, Marcus is one life that was (partially?) sacrificed to save all others who might go on the planet at a later time.
@WHATISUTUBE
@WHATISUTUBE 10 жыл бұрын
That's one thing I don't get, throughout the game you're creating clones and swapping. But you never actually swap with another person or a dead body. The only other person that swapped with other people in the title was the 'antagonist', and that person swapped with minds and there was only one body. So that's slightly different. But here, if you swap with the guy, does he follow your exact motions? In which case, what? It creates zombies of people?
@vorporeal
@vorporeal 10 жыл бұрын
Before the swap, Marcus is walking to the right, towards the ship. My guess is that he simply continued to the right after the swap, and wasn't aware what had happened until after he walked off the cliff. Although then again, perhaps you didn't swap, you just invaded his mind, and in doing so, you simultaneously survived and killed yourself (as you had been doing all game).
@Jes.V3
@Jes.V3 10 жыл бұрын
swapping different ppl is band because it caused massive memory loss to the point making it impossible to know if either person was actually swapped . clone swapping is the opposite since its a copy of you and shall have no problems with memory loss . the "antagonist" aka Chalmers circumvents the ban by performing brain transplants on really sick ppl believing that she could use "the swapper" to swap their consciousness to a body for prolonging their lives . so its a different situation . and maybe you're right about the last thing . when swapping at the end the other guy should not be controlled by you .
@feathero3
@feathero3 2 жыл бұрын
@@vorporeal I like the idea that it was both invading a mind and staying a clone. Reminds me of other stories with conscious swapping, such as "SOMA" where both the original identity lives and a new copy is created. That would mean, throughout the entire game, every clone has been you and felt the deaths they endured as well. You essentially kill yourself dozens of times throughout the game.
@AdAstraCompany
@AdAstraCompany 10 жыл бұрын
I feel like the people who didn't swap are the ones who understood the message of the game, thinking about what is consciousness and the overwhelming thought of nihilism, while the people who swapped were the ones that ignored the moral conflict and what it means to be individual and just wanted to selfishly continue their now pointless existence.
@ThaTHMKid
@ThaTHMKid 10 жыл бұрын
I thought the whole game was shit and had no meaning and swapped in a heartbeat
@EnragedPhoenix91
@EnragedPhoenix91 10 жыл бұрын
Kaleb Bell Kinda proving his point there.
@ibis0921
@ibis0921 10 жыл бұрын
I get where your coming from but I tried to play from the point of view of the character. My guess is that your character is a clone of the scavenger before she merges with the other brains. Plus you have been swapping with your clones all the time and killing yourself all the time so given all of that I thought that faced with those philosophical question maybe i personally would jump but this character would probably swap so i swapped.
@pumptank
@pumptank 10 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the initial assessment, I don't see it as a moral conflict when the choice is between survival and death as a living being. There are very few situations, if any, in which I would be tempted to consider the latter option in all fairness. I hold the view that existence is meaningless and quite absurd but given the choice I'd swap as it doesn't affect me whether or not my original conscience was changed or not, even to a degree in which my individual self would not be recognizable any longer. It is an absurd choice but it is better, given the circumstances, than certain death.
@EnragedPhoenix91
@EnragedPhoenix91 10 жыл бұрын
pumptank Eh. In my case it was more a choice not to go with it due to the fact that it'd be condemning someone else to the horrible choice of which way he would most prefer to die. Sure he's just a character in a story, but then again so is the player character. I'd rather look back on the hour or two as playing a character that would rather die than condemn someone else to death just to live a little longer. It kinda retroactively affects the tone of the game for me.
@spaceeDolphin
@spaceeDolphin 7 жыл бұрын
Ah so thats what happens when you choose the swap ending. Completed the game just now, choosed the stay ending but wanted to know what would have happened if i chose swap
@alexbard8299
@alexbard8299 10 жыл бұрын
i'm the swapper. I doing my job - swap with marcus ))
@wolfted421
@wolfted421 9 жыл бұрын
Exactly he's fucken swapper. That's his job lol
@Andromitor
@Andromitor 11 жыл бұрын
nice run man
@Malik27201
@Malik27201 10 жыл бұрын
I chose to stay on the planet for 2 reasons: 1. I didn't want that guy to suffer what I had to and -2. If I swap with someone what will happen to my life? I would no longer have my own body, my own soul-. #DeepWords
@StoppMethnAround
@StoppMethnAround 10 жыл бұрын
It's still your soul
@Malik27201
@Malik27201 10 жыл бұрын
SuperNinjaBurger Not one that you would still know
@asimb0mb
@asimb0mb 10 жыл бұрын
But you've already swapped with your clones so many times before. You've already lost your own body and soul, so to speak. You are one of your clones. Seems a bit weird to choose stay over swap for reason 2.
@StoppMethnAround
@StoppMethnAround 10 жыл бұрын
***** the gun is used to swap souls. You would put your soul in his body. Did you pay attention to the story?
@Malik27201
@Malik27201 10 жыл бұрын
SuperNinjaBurger Yeah I actually did, I was just being over dramatic
@AspiringPotato
@AspiringPotato 11 жыл бұрын
3rd "From Hell's Heart I Stab At Thee" Ending: Swap with Marcus and then jump his body off the cliff.
@k.o.d.eanonmous1778
@k.o.d.eanonmous1778 9 жыл бұрын
honestly doe could you clone yourself and get on the rescue ship anyway? but i guess they didnt want to give that option because that way everyones fine.
@lereff1382
@lereff1382 6 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late, but you couldn't create a clone because you already had 4 clones existing.
@decripter37
@decripter37 6 жыл бұрын
@@lereff1382 You can kill the rightmost clone with the sliding barrier and have one spare, but the possibility is blocked
@theadamabrams
@theadamabrams 5 жыл бұрын
​@@decripter37 I was disappointed there was no third ending for keeping a spare clone to create and swap to.
@ValkyrieXW
@ValkyrieXW 10 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't swap if they had considered for a while longer. I swapped because they made a final decision too soon... to abandon a life out there. Lol..
@auto514
@auto514 8 жыл бұрын
I am a terrible person.
@GetEasyMoneyCash
@GetEasyMoneyCash 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks a LOT mate!! :)
@usmh
@usmh 8 жыл бұрын
It is said by Cook that we mustn't talk to the Watchers. I'm thinking it might be meant literally. Has anyone played through the game without touching a single Watcher?
@MrSNEAKFREAK96
@MrSNEAKFREAK96 8 жыл бұрын
usmh That's impossible. In the last section alone you have to walk past them.
@gnarlybands
@gnarlybands 6 жыл бұрын
came here after deleting the game after i got all the achievements.
@mico3
@mico3 11 жыл бұрын
Because after swapping 1000x times with clones you sure are exactly the same, duh!
@agauerm
@agauerm 4 жыл бұрын
The ending is a bit "absurd", I mean, an interstellar rescue ship can´t even find a way to grab the guy at 20 meters or so on the other side of a precipice? They could just have landed somewhere else and wait for the to get there on foot. Also, he could have just created another clone and "teleported", exactly how you did during the whole game lol....
@V742
@V742 4 жыл бұрын
The ship not being able to rescue you is a bit absurd, but the inability to create a clone is actually done in context of the game play. You character has got 4 clones holding down switches so she could go through the final door. There's nowhere to move them that will kill or erase them; she cannot create another one.
@quitchemmy
@quitchemmy 8 жыл бұрын
Alright, my 5 cents even though i didnt play it in one turn and lost some plot. Swap with Marcus, swap with cap of the ship (or another more "rescue like" ship later on), command to resuce Marcus + survive + tell everyone the story. Mhm? How is it not an option and if Marcus is such and adrenaline junkie randomly jumping off strange cliffs then its his thing and not my fault. (Still didnt get why he had to die after swapping)
@goatmeal5241
@goatmeal5241 8 жыл бұрын
Swapping into Marcus doesn't give him a swapper gun, it seems to just put a copy of your mind into his body. If you buy the explanation in one of the top comments, Marcus' mind would still be intact, and you'd just have two personalities in one body. Meanwhile, your body that was left behind is still linked to your new one, so when 'Marcus' walks back to the ship the old body walks to the right as well, falling into the pit.
@fragsman
@fragsman 11 жыл бұрын
I've chosen to stay on the planet (dunno why).. anyway was better option than the other, in my opinión.
@ombroso1000
@ombroso1000 10 жыл бұрын
I swapped, killing marcus. Surviving at any cost, right?
@willianandrade1357
@willianandrade1357 10 жыл бұрын
No... I chose to stay on the Planet.
@asimb0mb
@asimb0mb 10 жыл бұрын
Yes. They were selfish to leave me on the planet, so I was selfish to swap.
@AdAstraCompany
@AdAstraCompany 10 жыл бұрын
***** So continue the chain of selfishness? An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, my friend.
@asimb0mb
@asimb0mb 10 жыл бұрын
Nico I'd rather leave the whole world blind than to live in a world that isn't even real.
@AdAstraCompany
@AdAstraCompany 10 жыл бұрын
***** lol let's hope the decision isn't up to you then
@muhali3
@muhali3 3 жыл бұрын
The puzzles are good. The “philosophy” of the game grossly mischaracterizes David Chalmers views. It’s so bad it almost seems like they were trying to purposely misrepresent what his views are. It seems like they made no effort to actually understand Chalmers views. (Or even the fact that consciousness - the ability to feel things subjectively - is totally different from identity. I could have all my memories replaced but it wouldn’t affect the fact that I’m able to have a first person experience of the world. Tl;dr is that consciousness is the fact that we have a first person experience of the world. Identity is about memory. You can be conscious - have have first person experiences like pain - before being able to form memories.)
@TheZoomjuice
@TheZoomjuice 10 жыл бұрын
i think the story of the game was not so bad... Just a pity that i did not want to read all of the stones ^^
@GetEasyMoneyCash
@GetEasyMoneyCash 11 жыл бұрын
Are you sure? I can't find a singel page or video on this "3rd ending". Would you be so kind to upload one?
@kommy1139
@kommy1139 11 жыл бұрын
woah
@thecuchikiller
@thecuchikiller 8 жыл бұрын
im get the frist ending
@metodoinstinto
@metodoinstinto 11 жыл бұрын
Your dignity is your identity. If you lose that, you lose yourself, you lose what it is to be human. Not to swap the guy is the "right" choice, because dying with dignity is harder and more important than living. That's the answer of this whole game. That is the soul.
@generaltor2619
@generaltor2619 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is so pseudo-intellectual it hurts.
@NotLegato
@NotLegato 8 жыл бұрын
while i liked the atmosphere and setting, the discussions on the nature of the mind were *really* surface-deep and not that insightful, agreed.
@alistairpage-mcgill2723
@alistairpage-mcgill2723 7 жыл бұрын
The game or the comments?
@peteypariah6603
@peteypariah6603 8 жыл бұрын
I picked the Swap ending just to be a dickhead.
@ThaTHMKid
@ThaTHMKid 10 жыл бұрын
This game makes no sense and it's boring as hell. Glad it was free
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