The Swedish 1851 M Kammerlader rifle - History and modern time shooting

[@Honeybadger_525]

I find it amazing that this loading mechanism never caught on among other armies outside of Scandanavia. It seems so simple yet effective and seems not to compromise accuracy for rate of fire to any measurable degree.

[@reefread1234]

I know right its way less hassle just gotta count your shots excessive fouling after awhile acts as a barrel obstruction id figure it need a wad cleaning after so many shots but even only adding that its higly effective at throwing lead rapidly compared. be fun to hunt with for sure

[@allangibson2408]

The American Army issued M1819 Hall rifle used the same loading system and was converted to cap firing in the 1830’s. It was a top hammer having originally been a flintlock.

[@robertlewis8295]

The Hall did not use a camming mechanism to get a better seal. They used thin sheet metal to protect the stock at the front of the chamber. Stupidly enough, the last model (Hall-North) made for the US military was a smooth bore, the earlier versions were rifled. Responsible for an early civil war scandal, they were declared obsolete and sold 5,000 off for $3.50 each, then in the arms panic the US bought them back for $22 each. The .52 caliber barrel was rifled and the chamber was bored out to accept a .58 caliber projectile (yes, chamber only was increased, not bore size), but that work apparently only cost $0.75 per gun.

[@allangibson2408]

@@robertlewis8295 The Hall had two slightly angled replaceable recoil lugs that (if properly adjusted) pushed the breech and action together for a metal on metal seal. A couple of centuries wear and tear impede its sealing however in most surviving examples.

[@bebereyes5514]

The horned helmet design of old must have turned them off from any war equipment designs coming from the region.

[@atadbitnefarious1387]

I really like how this design actually makes it practical to shoot and reload from the prone.

[@w0t3rdog]

Not to mention horseback..

[@Bobanbobic]

probably not harder than other rifles of that era.

[@aurelian2668]

​@@Bobanbobic Reloading a springfield musket is really hard in prone

[@D-Vinko]

@@w0t3rdog This gun is way too fiddly to reload on horseback. There were plenty of similar breech loading weapons made for that reason. This gun is clearly for shooting long ranges quickly and with a good seal.

[@BruceWSims]

I shoot Black Powder so a video like this really catches my attention. Since tactics and weapons designs have a symbiotic relationship it would have helped to know what Military strategies and tactics made this design a valid option? Also it would help to have a sense of its specs. Great Video.

[@christophersmaby8485]

I've gone from seeing this channel as source of entertainment, to a valuable resource for preserving the usage of historical firearms (while still being wildly entertaining!). Thank you for all that you do and I can't wait for the next video!

[@MrCameronian]

Completely agree, his stuff on the Dreyse and the Lorenz is excellent 👍

[@suprimantapsupringgakdijua1284]

Cek harga nya bos

[@vladimirzaborni302]

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[@subodhtyagi8419]

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[@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3]

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[@mightychicken7774]

Your face when the cap failed - I laughed so much at that! I've been there, m8. Absolutely love your content! Thank you for showing the REAL shooting experience - the way it should be.

[@g.b.gareful5569]

That has to be the best black powder rifle of its day. Has anyone ever made a reproduction of that one? It would be on my list if it was available. Such an interesting rifle, fast and efficient to load and shoot. Thank you for giving us a closeup look.

[@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3]

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[@axod1916]

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[@anthonyhayes1267]

@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 Hail Satan

[@apollo1694]

@@anthonyhayes1267 Edgy internet atheists thinking saying they worship someone subservient to God will offend Christians

[@notibutthespicegirls9372]

@@apollo1694 cringe pov tbh i feel sorry for the man.

[@RiderOftheNorth1968]

You just made this swede very happy with this! Your rifle is in stunning condition by the way, congratulations on that.

[@no-one3795]

I really like this rifle. The loading mechanism is unique and easier compared to a traditional muzzleloading one.

[@chetan.gondaliya]

I can imagine you as a magician who shows amazing and incredible things ! As you show us amazing and unique and historical firearms ❤love from India brother..🙏

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

I wished the Kammerlader style came earlier in the flintlock age. I think it would work really well and better than a lot of other breechloader flintlocks.

[@VexShiza]

I enjoyed the demonstration of this firearm as well as the history of its creation. The pictures that you provided to help describe certain aspects were also appreciated.

[@paulsly7246]

Thanks for a great bit of history and information on this ignition system and on the rifle.The extra powder tightened the group a lot.Thanks for sharing from Australia

[@michaeldeangelo4818]

I love all these old guns. Thank you so much for putting videos like these on here.

[@mineplow1000]

"We love everything made of wood, and metal..." Amen.

[@Sport--willow]

Aww.....yes...... 11:29 That looks like one of my expressions when the cap goes snap without the satisfaction of the boom.....😃 Geat video and excellent information

[@johnathonwitenski8523]

I absolutely love this channel!! Especially when it comes to how you go about doing your reloads. It really helps me and I'm sure countless others who love reloading. It sets me in the right direction and also how to do it! Especially when it comes to old black powder brass cartridges.

[@to2s134]

What a amazing rifle and video. Thank you so much. These rifle makes my Gewerh 98 a youth rifle, as your Kammerlader are 66 years older.

[@christopherreed4723]

In addition to BlokeOnTheRange's video on the Kammerlader, there's also Mark Novak's videos on bringing a derelict one back to life. The two videos - iirc it's one for the stock and one for the metal work - amply illustrate the kind of cracking you can find on badly worn examples.

[@daveyjoweaver6282]

What an amazing firearm! I Love the art, design and craftsmanship of antique guns and weapons. When you think of the tools and machines used then that required great skill I’m always impressed. Thank You Kindly and keep your powder shooting so we can enjoy and learn more! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania

[@greenjack1959l]

I'm amazed that such a beautifully ingenious system was not more widely adopted. Way ahead of its time. Lovely rifle.

[@robertthomas3777]

Early IKEA input. Love the disassembly. Impressive.

[@fritzruttimann1517]

Indeed the Kammerlader patent is an excellent example of superb gun smithing.

[@dannyboybogdan2356]

You showed great poise and hit a good shot while being flanked by an enemy at the end there. Nice job soldier

[@Bayan1905]

A gun almost never, ever seen here in the US. It would be something to show up to a black powder military match here with one of those.

[@bgeipel]

I just did the 2022 Cabin Fever challenge using mine. I did not do so well 😜

[@milgeekmedia]

Oh I see! ...I'm not a shooter so I was curious about that white 'blinker' you were wearing , then I noticed it allowed you to keep both eyes open while firing. You learn something new every day. Wonderful looking rifle, I was trying to work out what Britain was using by comparison in the 1850s [Pattern 1853 Enfield muzzle-loader] and wonder how the Kammerlader compared to the American Hall breech loader? Excellent video (as usual). Thank you.

[@eradasinvencoes]

paper cartridges are very elegant, and setting aside one Saturday of the week to fire a weapon like that seems to be very good ❤

[@Stew357]

Now that is cool! I just noticed that the lever must be on a cam that moves the loaded tube forward in the chamber to provide a better seal, brilliant! Ty C&B!

[@robcampbell3235]

Kammerlader. 😊

[@carlubambi5541]

thank you for your great presentation .I love old black powder guns .They have an amazing history

[@emilbratteberg1455]

I am Norwegian and it is cool to see a Norwegian designed rifle, it isn’t often.

[@Whitpusmc]

This is greatly superior than the Springfields and Enfield's that we fought the American Civil War with.

[@johndegnan5703]

This is now my favorite non-metalic cartridge breach loading mechanism. Utterly brilliant. It must have been quite expensive in it's day because of the precise machining required from what was shown of the mechanism.

[@657449]

Great video as always. You make creating the cartridge look easy. It takes skill.

[@kevinharrigan2727]

I thought that was a repro at first, that gun was insanely well kept for being 180 years old.

[@James-fu8fj]

Man, I don’t know how you found one that good shape pretty well shot out over here the chambers most of them

[@ifv2089]

Held that 4th shot to long I reacon, what a cool piece of history how fun, and very little smoke from that powder

[@jesseusgrantcanales]

Indiana Jones: *Screaming in the distance.* Capandball: *Antique treasures go bang bang.* Seriously one thinks he is loaded, or Europe is a blackpowder gold mine.

[@anomalyp8584]

I have never seen or heard about this method of loading, especially surprised the design/principle already dates back to medieval times!

[@boydgrandy5769]

Compared to the British Enfield or the US early model muzzle loading rifles, this gun has the potential of a fire rate of at least twice as many rounds per minute. Plus, this gun can be reloaded from prone, which makes it a stellar weapon for use in the new environment of very accurate shoulder arms fired from defensive concealment. The camming system used to move the chamber into the breech to get a good gas seal, along with the hidden hammer and cap placement makes this a great weapon for its time. With hollow based conical bullets (minie balls), this rifle would have been a winner in the US Civil War, had anyone over here known about it and had it been produced in numbers for export.

[@Tucher97]

The idea of a breech loader may not seem like a big deal to us modern people but back then in an area where brass cartridges were yet a thing, a breech loader opens up a whole new world of combat positioning with little to no weird compromises.

[@mikhailmarinov8]

Super cool black powder rifle!! I am surprised it was not used all over around the world.. I have been fascinated by percussion weapons for a few years but only now came across this beauty

[@free_at_last8141]

Wonderful. I love seeing the different ways in which the same problems were overcome.

[@Verdunveteran]

I've been looking forward to this video since you first announced you had gotten yourself a kammarladdningsgevär m/1851. And as always I found it to be a great video! Well done! I can absolutely understand why it was the Swedish navy that adopted it. I rifle like this must have been ALOT handier to use from the confined spaces on a ship than a standard muzzle loader. Especially for those serving on the smaller coastal vessels meant to defend the different Swedish archipelagos. Many of these were small but crowded gun, bomb and mortar sloops or galleys amongst others. But even on the larger ships breach loaders like this must have been extremely handy for men stationed in the crows nests to snipe at the decks of enemy ships.

[@brittakriep2938]

A question from Germany: Kammerladdningsgevär is clearly Kammerladungsgewehr in german. Is ,gevär' in military context a battlerifle in contrast to a carbine? In german civilian context ,Gewehr' is the umbrella term for rifle, shotgun and combination gun.

[@91rumpnisse]

@@brittakriep2938 Gevär means all Two-handed firearms with a long barrel.

[@brittakriep2938]

@@91rumpnisse : I did my question, because in german weapon terminology, you have to know if military or civilian context is meant, because Gewehr doesn' t mean exactly the same. And : A Seitengewehr is a bayonnet. One of the polearms used in 18th century by infantry officers on foot is in german called ,Kurzgewehr' and in old texts before 1800 it is often unklear, which kind of weapon is meant with ,Gewehr'. Next to my homevillage is a town, which was fortfied until about 1830s. But the gate guards had been mostly allways no soldiers, only citizens who had do do this duty ( everyone for a short time). Some years ago, in a newspaper article you could read, about 1760 from those citizens who had to do this, two of three had their own Gewehr. But had they a Gewehr in modern sense, or was in the old document meant, two of three men had a weapon ( and the poor ones not?). When a german word starts with Ge it means ,a lot of', for example Gesang- a lot of singing, Geschrei- a lot of shouting and so Gewehr - a lot of defence ( sich wehren- to defend yourself/ die Wehr - the weapon).

[@91rumpnisse]

@@brittakriep2938 Not sure if i fully understand what you are trying to say, but the word "Gevär" is a loanword from German. It got introduced in the 1500s, and it originally had a broader meaning, example it could mean "to arm yourself" or it could be any weapon. But in the 1600s, it came to just mean "Rifle", and pretty much does so even now. We do have compound variations on the word, like Hunting Rifle = Jaktgevär, Sniper Rifle = Prickskyttgevär, Machine Gun = Kulsprutegevär. I don't think the word is used for anything other than just "Rifle".

[@brittakriep2938]

@@91rumpnisse : I am german, and was not sure if in swedish language Gevär is used in the same way as german Gewehr, because there are sometimes socalled ,false friends'. Now i know, that both the words are used the same way. Sorry, i didn' t wanted to confuse you.

[@normanrea8146]

All of your videos are superb as well as extremely interesting.

[@JamesEvans-ow1wc]

The beauty and craftsmanship on that is astonishing

[@dalemoss4684]

I've been waiting for a good video featuring the Kammerlader, thanks!

[@ukwan]

That's a cool rifle, I know nothing about black powder guns, my knowledge stops at the start of rimfire, but I'm amazed how clever this is!

[@130353]

I saw the Norwegians demonstrate their kammerladers years ago, they used the spitzer like the ones for the pillar breech guns

[@anglerjj3089]

great video about a great Rifle. I saw many other channels where they always complained about the gas sealing, and that it was not very well designed. When I see your shooting, it looks almost perfect 👍👍 Thanks for another guns history lesson, wrapped in good entertainment

[@lemoynereaper5426]

Thanks for the video. I just wanted to ask when u would do a video on the almighty Blunderbuss.

[@capandball]

If somebody lends me one, I will make one. :)

[@PedroTorresFilho]

This is probably the first very well suceed attempt of making a more pratical reload system before cartridge implementation. Very nice shape gun. Cheers!

[@BuntaBall40]

Amazing, i have never seen anything like this, love the channel

[@lae52]

Boy, that's really an interesting rifle and breech system! My interests have tended to go earlier and earlier. I haven't reached a matchlock yet, but that rifle could definitely change my interest direction. Thanks for something really new to me.

[@wrxs1781]

Another excellent video revue, your rifle is in pristine condition.

[@lordfisting4327]

A note that not all people know, weapons built before 1890 is license free to own in sweden, so a tip for people who like antique rifles/pistols but also precausion cap revolvers like the colt navy.

[@WhatIfBrigade]

Wow, amazing rifle. Great job presenting the history, a mad minute and disassembly.

[@Floreal78]

Ah, Kammerlader story told in exquisite hunglish, love it! :D

[@danny_decheeto8300]

My favourite gun channel of KZbin!

[@harharmahadev5715]

Greetings from Suriname . I like these old guns

[@michaelmoorrees3585]

"Love everything wood and metal, and comes from Sweden". Growing up in the 1960s, I'm well aware of futuristic (non-plastic) furniture from Scandinavia, that became very popular at that time, both in Europe and America.

[@nathanchristopher6121]

Similar to an American design from about 1820. Saw it on forgotten weapons website.

[@melvinbrotherofthejoker436]

I was worried this wouldn’t come. This is one beautiful rifle and I need one before I die

[@scruffysstash]

It's always interesting to see the different tactics of each country, as viewed through the equipment they carry. Especially in the later half of the 1800s, such a wide variety of firearm design like this one,, reflecting the fighting style of each military.

[@HzgtSM]

Have fun with the german state's:)

[@brittakriep2938]

@@HzgtSM: In last innergerman tribal war 1866, Austria and its allies used ,Süddeutsches Konventionskaliber' of 13,9 mm. But the used lead , bullets ' had not been the the same in every state.

[@HzgtSM]

@@brittakriep2938 I know, I from one of those states and they actually didn't have all the same Caliber in use, not even comparable armament, as for example: my duchy went into the war with new M/62 Dreyse Rifles they got from Prussia just some years earlier.

[@brittakriep2938]

@@HzgtSM I , Brittas boyfriend, am from Württemberg. We had, like Austria, Bavaria, Kingdom Saxony, Baden and Hessen- Darmstadt 13,9 mm muzzleloaders. So basicly our troops could use paper cartridges of noted states, but i don' t know if the different balls ( for example Lorenz for Austria and Saxony or Podewils for Bavaria,) had been optimized for every rifle type. In 8th Bundeskorps ( Württemberg, Baden and Hessen- Darmstadt) all contingents used the Vereinsgewehr, but not totally the same Version.

[@HzgtSM]

@@brittakriep2938scheint wir teilen die selben Interessen. Ich kann durchaus das Buch: Militärgewehre und Pistolen der deutschen Staaten 1800-1870 von Hans Dieter Götz empfehlen. Viele gute Informationen und auch Bilder. War mehr oder weniger immer go to Materialien während des Studiums. Desweiteren kann ich auch nur empfehlen das Vorderlader schießen selbst zu tun. Habe mir ernst neulich das die Pedersoli 1857 gekauft, aus eben den Interesse am D-D Krieg und aber natürlich auch wegen der guten Performance :) Und auch Sachsen kaufte in 1858 (oder um den Dreh rum) eine Pressmaschiene für Podewils Geschosse sowie auch die Österreicher. Beide Staaten nutzen im Krieg von 1866 tatsächlich mehr Podewils Geschosse als wie man meinen mag.

[@ralphh4131]

Wow! What an amazing mechanism. Ive never seen this style before.

[@hamm6035]

You bring us the coolest stuff 😎

[@davefellhoelter1343]

She is a Beauty! Wow that's NICE! Fast and easy to load. Cuts a ragged hole there too.

[@kevinmarrett9532]

Subtle flex with Whitworth bullets sitting to the side as he wraps the paper cartridges lol

[@teamnoob52]

Funny thing about that: the later M1860 versions of the Kammerlader used smallbore Whitworth Rifled barrels. Thanks to these, they won first and second place in an 1861 military rifle competition held in Belgium: they were hitting the target at 1000m.

[@CodeDreamer68]

Very cool design! Most impressive for that time period. Thanks for sharing.

[@luismenezis7344]

very good video you are to be congratulated for keeping the story alive.

[@mnicrashSoren]

Funny 5 minutes ago I was content...... now I have a new obsession... thanks a lot 😃.... I love sweden

[@cyrille8122]

Toujours d’aussi belles vidéos ,avec des armes atypiques.la poudre noire n’a pas fini de séduire !!

[@thebotrchap]

Thanks for the shout out! Do you by any chance have any more dimensions of the Swedish bullet available?

[@coreymerrill3257]

That is really nice , probably my favorite bp single barrel that I have seen to date. I can see it being a joy to hunt with , the protected nipple will stay dry with less effort in nasty weather . I do think the paper or skin cartridge is giving a slightly inconsistent bullet presentation when loaded. Maybe add a parallel knot to even out that slight interference on the bullet . The devil is in the details they say.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

Great video! I dident know about this intresting rifle, thank you greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪

[@christophervilliers957]

Love these videos all ways interesting to learn about the development of different weapons through history 👏

[@Messerschmidt109]

@capandball would love for you to eventually cover the Pennsylvania rifle, and/or build one

[@capandball]

I am not that good in crafting. Wish I was....

[@Messerschmidt109]

@@capandball I would still love to see you get your hands on one and see if how accurate you can make it to long ranges.

[@RalphTempleton-vr6xs]

Ingenious mechanism. How did this not become a standard? And why is this the first time I've seen this...

[@Virihaure]

Karl XIV Johan was not a Norwegian king. He was a the first king of the Bernadottes in Sweden and was imported from France to take the empty throne of Sweden. Sweden and Norway was in a personal union at the time so he became automaticly also the king of Norway but he was a Swedish king and teh first one of the present dynasty. You have to research better.

[@asbjrnmaus7666]

Yes, never call a Bernadotte a Norwegian king... We don't like it 😄🇧🇻

[@Virihaure]

@@asbjrnmaus7666, jag är inte rojalist men tycker ändå info ska vara rätt. Vi får vara glada för att Norges separation från Sverige 1905 skedde fredligt. Bättre att vi är goda grannar än bittra fiender Sverige och Norge.

[@HaNsWiDjAjA]

Ehm, seems like you also have to research better. Sweden and Norway WAS NOT in a personal union when Karl XIV Johan ascended to the Swedish throne. In fact Norway was in a personal union with Denmark! Karl Johan defeated the Danes and forced them to cede Norway, then when the Norwegians protested he defeated them too and forced the personal union upon them.

[@Dino-hv7rn]

It' s bad import... franch/sweden mix, maybe Walenberg family mix some interests

[@thickoc4539]

Research > spelling

[@catherineharris4746]

WOW! So the slug is in the pack of powder charge, fkng SWEET!👏👏👏👏👍👍👍

[@leoscheibelhut940]

Such a beautiful rifle! I want to see you use it in "combat" conditions, running and advancing or retreating from a target or targets.

[@alves6465]

This is from those times the troops marched at each other and shot when they were close, no hiding or running.

[@daveyjoweaver6282]

A mechanical wonder so well done! Kind Thanks for sharing this Lovely rifle! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania

[@meh7713]

Beautiful, I was lucky enough to shoot a Norwegian one at a military black powder shoot in Tennessee last year.

[@HunterzKar98]

I saw a lot of old guns but I never saw this. Greetings from Poland

[@hanc37]

Amazing. I have never seen anything like that in my 50 years as a firearm enthusiast.

[@anetonik9501]

Thank Sir, for your Reviews

[@RogierYou]

What a beautiful and interesting design

[@mattharvey8712]

Bravo.......it's easy when they arnt shooting at u ........hats off to the guys who had to fight with cap and ball.....clever gun.......cheers

[@Dmitry9116]

Thanks man for vid.. so what a heavy barrel.. what the nice gun.. soft voice..👍

[@mrtoastymanstudios7353]

As a person from *blue and yellow* this video makes me feel *positive emotion*

[@sudosden3567]

First time I see this kind of rifle! A very modern one for mid-nineteenth century.

[@svena.halstensen5699]

i have a Norwegian version of that gun, made in 1868 if i remember correctly. somewhat different design in the firing mechanism, it has a firing pin in the block and take cartridges. it technically works, but never dared to fire it. probably could not even find appropriate ammo. old family heirloom.

[@mumzly1]

That is such a cool loading system.

[@konstantinreuther3122]

Would be really cool to see a video on a Lorenzoni Rifle or Pistol from capandball. Keep up the good content!

[@capandball]

Dear Konstantin, do you mean the M 1854 Lorenz rifle musket?

[@konstantinreuther3122]

@@capandball Not quite, altought this would be also interesting as I find most if not all of your videos interesting. What I mean by Lorenzoni is a repeating flintlock pistol or musket from I think the 17th century. Forgotten weapons had a few videos on thes type of early repeaters. Like this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJDLn3ZsrZVmbLM

[@пошлименянахуй]

Ооочень интерная модель , с интереснейшим вариантом зарядки , я занимался изучением эволюции патронов и заряжания оружия ,от перых вариантов со ствольной части первые огнесрелы ,штуцеры и .т.д. и до наших дней и вот такой вариант я вижу впервые , хотя знаю что в переходном капсюльном варианте созданных образцов оружия существовало велое множество пока необразовался унитарный патрон . Вариант замка "ружья" весьма интересен .И удивляет его идеальное непросто музейное состояние , а то что это вообще действующий образец с четким выстрелом , БРАВО 👏👏👏👏👏👏 ,👍.

[@willbbwluvr]

Having never seen a kammerlader before, Thankyou! I was not aware they were an underhammer type lock! Would dearly love to own one myself, but unsure as to the cost and/or legalities of exporting one from Europe!

[@panda1345]

Im really curious if this would be considered a "Black powder rifle" in Canada... thats way nicer then a traditional muzzle loader

[@francisdec1615]

In Sweden, where it's made, you need a license for a replica, but non for an authentic pre-1890 black powder firearm. One of the few good things with the Swedish gun law.

[@darryldouglasmarbaniang7162]

I may be wrong here, but I'm also guessing that some aspects of the later needle-guns (like the Dreyse and the Chassepot) were actually inspired by the Kammerlader.

[@HanSolo__]

Damn, this beauty looks like new. Love your video. Greetings from Poland.

[@RangerOfTheOrder]

I would love to get one of these for my collection. I love these sorts strange and different rifles.

[@danielpealer3561]

This seems very similar, at least in basic concept to the American Hall Breech Loading rifle, adopted in 1819, though the Hall rifle only swings open about 15-30 degrees instead of the 90 degree flip of the Kammerlader.

[@TrainmanDan]

Beautiful! It is never too late to learn something new.

[@roberttolley5055]

The Lyman powder flask came. Pretty nice. Had gun out cleaned sites

[@johnveglio4433]

Very good system! The only awkward part is placing the primer cap !

[@capandball]

Yes, tricky part. Especially when you have a misfire.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

Lovely looking and accurate gun, quick to load as well.