The Tarp and Flag with Bugs

[@larag4646]

I know this is an older video but I'm binge watching your channel while I'm in bed with a stomach bug. I've been gut punched by a saddle horn before. I didn't know you could get horns that size and I think if I had my druthers, I'd prefer a gut punch from a dinner plate than a spear. And I happen to like tortillas so it'd be a double win for me!

[@donnamariavincent]

Just so good getting honest, well experienced and kind education. Thank you. Donna Vincent. New Zealand.

[@vernonhasenkamp2980]

" Hell of a hand from the wrist down"

[@smlmentorship1969]

Hi Pat love your style so down to earth, stories are hilarious! Thank you so much for taking the time to share with us, much appreciated. I have learned so much from your videos hope to have opportunity to meet up with you and Deb some day!! I'm from northern Alberta Canada.

[@gin.hollan]

Thank you for showing this in increments.

[@rogerfurr4325]

Gosh dang...I can't get enough of your videos. Thanks so much for doing this.

[@lisajignoffo9442]

Pat you truly are a gem! Love every-single-video!! Where were you years ago when I was trying to learn all this?! Proof.. you can teach an ole dog new tricks (I’m 63)!! Thank you sir for giving this information so we may not only learn, but to pass this on to the next generation!! Bravo

[@AndyTheCornbread]

Another reason for the big flat horns that you may not run into so much down there but we do a lot up here in NW Montana is when you go through trees on the trail or after cattle you spend a lot of time bent down over your horn(sometimes for many miles in a day) and those little horns will gut punch you seven ways from Sunday and leave you black and blue. Where as a nice wide flat horn you can lay across and be fine at the end of the day. There are more reasons than that too but for me there are a lot of reasons for a big flat horn and none for a little gut punching horn.

[@edwarnock4534]

Yes! Bent down and keeping your eyes open for the sharp pointed tops among the Dead falls. Thy spear you through pretty neatly while on a dead run, chasing cows.

[@gerrycoleman7290]

There is a huge amount of valuable information in this video.

[@gerrycoleman7290]

That soft exhale you did @ 10:55............Is that a calming sigh that 'tells' the horse to slow down and stop?

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Yes. If you hold your breath, the horse will wonder what’s wrong.

[@garymclaren7185]

Man you got one hell of a great sense of humour

[@kailencummings3554]

Pat, I have a three year old gelding i am Training. He is real mouthy and linkes to Chew on the Reins or what her can get a hold of. I have Used the Bag on a Stick and he Tries to Eat the Bag. I Need to be careful as he will Eat Plastic Bags. Any suggestions appreciated, thanks

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Send Pat your phone number at [e-mail] and he’ll give you a call. He’d like more information on how the horse was weaned. Thanks!

[@mcmihelk1]

Holy crap that backing explains so much about my horse. Thank you so much

[@kengamble8595]

Haha, I don't have a bull story, but I did have a mama cow that put a horn through my saddle and missed my leg by an inch ! Worked with a guy that had all his fingers....... and ONE thumb ! Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

[@michellebarber4958]

What breed is this horse Pat ?

[@PatnDebPuckett]

He’s a grade horse from Baja.

[@michellebarber4958]

Excuse my ignorance but what’s a grade horse ? From the way he holds himself I’m guessing he has Spanish blood in him ?

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Michelle Barber A grade horse is a mixed breed, unregistered horse.

[@scottw9663]

“Train your horse at home”. I’ve said that hundreds of times. Thanks for the videos

[@janboogaerts1616]

If I understand correctly, it is ok to suggest a topic, so here it goes : One of my horses is an overachiever. If he gets into trouble or we have a miscomunication, it is usually because he is trying too hard or he is thinking too fast. I have him too a point that he can give ground to a cow, or give more pressure and still stay hooked on that cow. When I have to work a gate for example he is getting ahead of me. It's obvious he's thinking " this is just another gate, I know this, I got this". But I want him to wait on me, telling him how and when we will work that gate. My question therefor : How can I get the horse to wait, don't be in such a hurry, don't try to overachieve that much, without running the risk of taking away his willingness and eagerness to please. I'ld like to see how Pat would handle such a situation, and if his idea about it is that my idea about this is not my smartest one, I want to know that too.

[@PatnDebPuckett]

It depends on the attitude of your horse when he is anticipating what you want him to do. For example, if you approach a gate and he starts to shift his body into position so you can open it, well that’s just the horse understanding the job at hand. If, on the other hand, he is impatient while you open a gate or dances around as you approach it, that’s not acceptable. The way to make that clear to him is to stop him at the gate, back him up, and ask him to stand in front of the gate (the gate just being an example of many things a horse might be impatient with or anticipate). As soon as he stands patiently, you can go ahead and work the gate. The thing we don’t like to discourage in the ranch world is when a horse understands how to do a job, the job is basically the same every time, and he does that job without much intervention from the rider. Using the example of working a gate, when I ride up to a gate on my horse, she automatically puts me in a position to open the gate. She stands quietly for as long as I wish while I open the gate and then she walks through and puts me back into a position where I can latch the gate. I know in the performance world, you don’t want the horse to do anything without being asked first. I understand that you are working with set patterns and anticipating can cause problems during a competition. But this is a different scenario than when a ranch horse understands a job and is confidently doing that job without resentment or impatience. Hope this helps you.

[@janboogaerts1616]

@@PatnDebPuckett I understand. And on the gate , it's not like he's prancing or anything. He gets into that position, but as soon as I latch and open the gate, he's like there's no sense just standing here, let's move on. That's why I said in my question, if you thought I was being stupid about it to tell me so. I know I need to reprogram my brain and train of thought on a lot of this, coming from the performance world and drifting into more ranch oriented work. That ain't all that easy, but it is what makes it interesting and so much fun.

[@PatnDebPuckett]

jan boogaerts After you open the gate, you can ask your horse to wait to walk through it if you feel like he has an impatient attitude.

[@kerrypurcell6022]

looks good,, where are you located ? here where i am there is 6 inches of snow and its cold,,i am in idaho,,

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Weldon CA

[@stevemccoy8138]

I have a couple bull stories too . Would like to forget about them. Thanks. .

[@hannahrichardson2267]

Could you do a video on dealing with spooky, high energy horses? Ive got a young morgan gelding im working with and it seems like no matted what i do he isnt making very much progress

[@PatnDebPuckett]

We have quite a view videos in our library of Pat roping and working with a wide variety of horses that might help you. Let me know if you’ve seen them all. Have you considered getting our Quality Groundwork and Tarp and Flag DVD’s? The horses we used in those DVDs weren’t old, gentle horses. You can see the progression that Pat goes through on the ground... www.thedisciplinedride.com/store

[@Deering777]

Pat, you were spot on talking about the over desensitized brain dead horse. Some of those methods suck the life and energy right out of them and you’re spot on in saying that’ll get you killed one day. Happy new year Pard.

[@gerrycoleman7290]

Do you want the horse to 'react' or to 'respond' very quickly?

[@PatnDebPuckett]

It depends on the situation. If danger is coming at us at a high rate of speed, I want a reaction. Otherwise I want a response to what I’m asking.

[@rogerdunning8772]

I've never used a nose band on a horse, maybe I should, however, when would I use it on a horse? when would I stop using it, if ever? and how tight should it be. I notice in a lot of your videos the horses you ride have a nose band. Thank you.

[@PatnDebPuckett]

I’ve said in the past that I use a noseband on older horses that have been ridden incorrectly in order to save time while they learn that they do not need to defend their mouths because of the concept of release. Once they understand, I take it off. If they revert to their old ways, I might put it back on again for a short period of time. The goal is to not need it.

[@rogerdunning8772]

Thanks for the information. Helps me to understand.

[@georgepengelly2434]

Hell of a hand from the wrist down.😀😀😀

[@iriscarrillo2572]

A question nos that You mention Tom dorance. Do you happen yo know Buck Brannanmam?

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Yes

[@iriscarrillo2572]

I like You guys horsemanship and the honesty you tell your knowlage with I really apreciate it thanks You very much

[@xavierhenry9453]

Learned so much from this man since watching these videos

[@brianroth5754]

“All you need is a pack of cigarettes for em and they’re fine” hahahahaha love it!

[@gerrycoleman7290]

I suppose 'brain dead' is similar or equivalent to 'learned helplessness'.....

[@silky2204]

Thank you for the common sense talk.

[@shawnaweesner3759]

Mr. you are too big to be on this horse. And take that bit out of the horse’s mouth, and quit acting like the mean old man you are. It is unbecoming.

[@PatnDebPuckett]

Shawna, I’m going to assume that you’re new here. On this channel, we don’t make rude, uninformed comments. You are welcome to ask questions about why Pat is riding a small-ish horse, why we use bits, why it’s so important for horses to be exposed to tarps and flags for their own safety as well as the safety of their riders...and you can politely present your opinions so long as those opinions can be backed up with some kind of facts, videos of your own, experiences, etc. You don’t get to just run out, nip us on the ankle, and run back home like one of those aggravating little dogs. Additionally, you have absolutely no idea what is going on in this video, the reason why we made it, who the horse is, why he’s in this video, and about a hundred other things that are going on here. It’s like you passed by some people having a conversation, butted in, and passed judgement without even finding out what those people were talking about. That goes on a lot and it is just unacceptable. I thought long and hard whether or not to reply to your comment or just ignore you but I’m done allowing people to type words on a page that they wouldn’t say in person.

[@paulmelton7261]

@@PatnDebPuckett Well said Mrs. Puckett, and quite a bit more polite than i would have been......which is why I don't often if ever respond to things on the internet..... But that said, I thank you both for the informative videos and admire the manner in which Mr. P's knowledge is generously shared with the world. Be a real shame to take all of that knowledge to the grave