The Tasman Bridge Disaster 1975 | Plainly Difficult Documentary

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@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
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@KibuFox
@KibuFox 2 жыл бұрын
Tasman isn't pronounced "Taz-man" It's pronounced "Bob". (making fun of how everyone corrects your pronunciation of things.
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 2 жыл бұрын
@@KibuFox May as well add "Lake Illawarras" pronunciation too the mix. Lake Ill-a-war-ra
@socluded
@socluded 2 жыл бұрын
And Lutana. Lootahna
@vonclaren1
@vonclaren1 2 жыл бұрын
Being a local I can tell the pronunciations of our place names were plainly difficult for you, LOLS
@vonclaren1
@vonclaren1 2 жыл бұрын
@@socluded Hobart turned into "Hoebt"
@isobeljones2005
@isobeljones2005 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather Thomas Jones was a motorist who died during the collapse. It was a tragedy and my father (11) and his two siblings were orphaned with their mother dying three weeks later. Thank you as there was information in this video I never knew.
@kylehumbert5735
@kylehumbert5735 Жыл бұрын
It's tragic. I watched the Brick Immortar video on the same subject. This wouldn't happen to be the same family, would it?
@gilbydog7350
@gilbydog7350 8 ай бұрын
I'm very sorry to hear that. It must have been very tough for your father. We lived in Howrah at the time, I was only a little boy at the time of the Bridge collapse, but I remember catching my ferry with my mother as the Bridge was being rebuilt.
@NightfallTrueCrime
@NightfallTrueCrime 2 жыл бұрын
My dad was driving on the bridge when this happened, luckily there was a car in front of him that saw what was happening and slowed down. he told me this story EVERY TIME we crossed the bridge lol.
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
"Yes, Dad."
@libbypeace68
@libbypeace68 2 жыл бұрын
Lol ... such a dad thing to do.
@ats-3693
@ats-3693 2 жыл бұрын
At least he didn't drop the old "Ah yes the dead center of town" everytime you drove past a cemetery 🤦
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a brain glitch some dads are susceptible to; we don't even notice when we're doing it. A couple of years ago I was taking my eldest grandkid to a store she likes and apparently I reminisced about a location...for the hundreth time, starting the tale with "Do you remember...". She kinda yelled "Of course _I_ remember, _I'm_ not the one who had a stroke!" The look on her face when she realized she'd said it out loud was priceless. 😂
@Argosh
@Argosh 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899 I do stuff like that instinctively and I neither have nor will I ever have children.
@DavidThomsonVocals
@DavidThomsonVocals 2 жыл бұрын
While it’s under less than positive circumstances, As a Hobart resident it’s nice to see our history being brought to a wide audience. The photo of the two cars hanging over the edge is iconic.
@carokat1111
@carokat1111 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an incredibly iconic photo to us Tasmanians.
@confused_stripes
@confused_stripes 2 жыл бұрын
@Evan Hodge are you saying photos can't be iconic or that this one isn't because I can assure you both are true
@sarahj344
@sarahj344 2 жыл бұрын
You did a great job! As an Aussie who grew up in Tasmania, I have to say that you mangled the pronunciation of a few names of places LOL but hey - I mangle the correct pronunciation of a lot of British towns and villages all the time, so no judgement from me. I enjoyed this doco. Thank-you!
@seanworkman431
@seanworkman431 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Tasmania and even as a young boy I understood how much of an impact it had on the people of Hobart. There was a model of the disaster in the local museum and when taking a girlfriend on holiday there we went to the museum and I inquired about the model. I was told that it hd been taken off display as it caused too much upset for some visitors, so I took my girlfriend to Port Aurther and we narrowly escaped death, having breakfast at 'The Broad Arrow Cafe' just 24 hrs. before the massacre, not the best holiday experience, I can assure you. Although the ship is not that deep, it is off limits to wreck divers as it is a tomb.
@busylivingnotdying
@busylivingnotdying 2 жыл бұрын
They couldn't recover the bodies from the ship?
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 2 жыл бұрын
I've never even heard of this massacre you spoke of until today, that's crazy
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! I'm sorry you went through that!
@aedvark
@aedvark 2 жыл бұрын
aww you just mist out on being part of john howards agenda
@LongPeter
@LongPeter 2 жыл бұрын
@@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yes, it's the reason Australia has had very restrictive gun laws since 1996. Having grown up with an irresponsible gun owner or two, I see it has the greatest thing the Howard government achieved.
@culex818
@culex818 2 жыл бұрын
I drive across this bridge as part of my daily commute. Another change in addition to the requirement to use a Pilot - traffic on the bridge is halted while a major ship is passing underneath. This means that ship movements under the bridge have to be scheduled outside of peak hour traffic, and usually take place at night.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting, although it kind of defeats the point of the bridge being built
@rosie7346
@rosie7346 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult Small boats can pass without any change to traffic. We very rarely have ships passing during the day, I'm not sure if I've ever seen traffic stopped!
@paulorocky
@paulorocky 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen traffic stopped on the bridge. Being an interstate visitor I had no idea at the time, but soon realised why.
@SRWJ
@SRWJ 2 жыл бұрын
I also live in Hobart and have seen traffic stopped for boats many times 😌 It's not often, when it does happen they pass through quickly and you're on your way.
@wilsjane
@wilsjane 2 жыл бұрын
@@SRWJ With the time it takes to clear the bridge above the shipping lanes. it is only necessary to close the bridge less than a minute before the ship passes under. I assume that in this day and age the whole thing is done by radar and computers.
@owainw3501
@owainw3501 2 жыл бұрын
You can never go wrong with a disaster documentary. Always fascinates me how shit can hit the fan so badly. Keep up the good work.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@owainw3501
@owainw3501 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult You're welcome
@owainw3501
@owainw3501 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Holodor? I think that's how it it spelled. It is the great Ukrainian famine when they were an old Soviet republic during the 1930s. It's not a disaster per say, but interesting nonetheless.
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson 2 жыл бұрын
You talk about shit hitting the fan, but in Hobart it was the ship hitting the span.
@SupersuMC
@SupersuMC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dave_Sisson 🤣💀
@ausnorman8050
@ausnorman8050 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hobart local, thank you for covering this subject that's dear to our local hearts.
@xr6lad
@xr6lad 2 жыл бұрын
Pity you didn’t p pick up on his mispronunciation of the word Tasman. Mustnt have been in Hobart long. It’s not Tas-Man . It’s Tas-mun.
@ausnorman8050
@ausnorman8050 2 жыл бұрын
@@xr6lad Yes, my partner and I had a giggle
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
@@xr6lad would you also say it could be spelled Tasm'n?
@jadedejarlais2769
@jadedejarlais2769 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting note about the Holden Monaro that almost went over the edge of the bridge, I read somewhere the driver mentioned that he was saved by his Automatic transmission. Auto transmissions were larger than the manual underneath those Holden's, and when the car slid over the edge, the Bell Housing of the transmission was what caught on the bridge. If he had a manual transmission he might have gone over aswell.
@Tiger351
@Tiger351 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the car and the story featured in Survivor Car Australia back in may or june, now fully restored and still owned by the same family.
@karenstirling2485
@karenstirling2485 2 жыл бұрын
The car is on display in Launceston at the Motor Museum
@collegeatlas
@collegeatlas 2 жыл бұрын
@@karenstirling2485 It’d be worth 100’s of 1000’s of dollars just because it’s a Monaro let alone a significant historic artefact.
@mostlybrokenbritishcars3220
@mostlybrokenbritishcars3220 2 жыл бұрын
Geez, the lengths people will go to justify why they bought an automatic… (Kidding of course, people can buy whatever car they like!)
@JakobusVdL
@JakobusVdL 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry@@mostlybrokenbritishcars3220, that was my first thought as well ;-)
@lucycarr6065
@lucycarr6065 2 жыл бұрын
Yay, I recommended this topic a few months ago. I love that you started out pronouncing every single name wrong and gradually started to get lazy and pronounce them right, which is exactly how Australian English developed it seems haha.
@kateemma22
@kateemma22 2 жыл бұрын
Australian: It's English but pronounced like you can't be f**ked.
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 2 жыл бұрын
@@kateemma22 Haha! That's pretty much the consensus between me (Canadian) and my Aussie cousins. We also agreed that our countries are sort of Commonwealth mirror images - both are big and full of empty space where the climate, the landscape, and most of the animals want to kill you, just in different ways. They've got the venomous everything, the sharks, and the crocs, and we've got the bears, pumas, wolverines, and f**king moose.
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 2 жыл бұрын
Is “Tas-man” correct? I’ve read about the life of Abel Tasman and figured it would be pronounced “Tas-mun.”
@viper1431
@viper1431 2 жыл бұрын
​@@brianarbenz1329 Yeah we don't fully pronounce the "man" part, 1 "a" is enough, who has time for a second one? So yes more like Tas-mun or Tas-mn.
@YokRzeznic
@YokRzeznic 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianarbenz1329 It's more "Tas-min" But you basically do not pronounce any vowel except the a.
@malcolmmcgrath9344
@malcolmmcgrath9344 2 жыл бұрын
Arrived in Hobart by plane, hired a car, drove over the bridge, checked into a hotel, looked out the window, part of the bridge was missing, said to the new wife, "the bridge has fallen down", "nonsense" she said. I was right! Possibly the first and last time that has ever happened in 47 years of marriage.
@margueriteporte8522
@margueriteporte8522 2 жыл бұрын
When I heard the news I thought it was an elaborate joke. Looked out the window and saw many watercraft moving around and realised it was only too true. Bob Clifford's ferry service was struggling at the time and what a blessing that he was in a position to step up to the mark.
@nononever3592
@nononever3592 Жыл бұрын
The funniest comment of several dozen I've read tonight, 7 months after you wrote it. Hope the Missus still keeps you in line!
@gilbydog7350
@gilbydog7350 8 ай бұрын
Staying at Wrest Point and looking up the river ?
@sjholmesbrown
@sjholmesbrown 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video, John. If you're interested in more Australian stories, I would recommend the Granville rail crash of 18 January 1977, to this day our worst rail accident.
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 2 жыл бұрын
Id watch more Australia stuff for sure.
@swade2830
@swade2830 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I second this! A documentary on the Granville train disaster would certainly be worth looking into. A horrific crash. Also, the Clybucca bus crash.
@patrickmitchell9068
@patrickmitchell9068 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I still think about that accident when ever I catch train pass Granville. My Grandfather was near by and as a doctor, was able too help out
@trishmcmahon1617
@trishmcmahon1617 2 жыл бұрын
And also the Westgate bridge collapse in Melbourne Victoria in 1970.
@alexbetts8719
@alexbetts8719 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would see my city's bridge covered. Perfect 1am upload for us here.
@NightfallTrueCrime
@NightfallTrueCrime 2 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow Taswegian
@crepethepancake
@crepethepancake 2 жыл бұрын
Yess I was thinking the same thing!
@maccaronich
@maccaronich 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating Horror did a really good video on it too
@crepethepancake
@crepethepancake 2 жыл бұрын
@@maccaronich I'll have to check it out!
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
@@crepethepancake I think they meant Brick Immortar; I can't find a Fascinating Horror video on this one
@Em_101
@Em_101 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing from people who lived near the bridge at the time of this happening said when the boat crashed, said their windows shaked so much it was like an earthquake. Thank you for covering this story.
@mrewan6221
@mrewan6221 8 ай бұрын
My father in Montagu Bay said exactly this. He was concerned about the foundations of the whole bridge, but still drove over it.
@meme-sw1pc
@meme-sw1pc 2 жыл бұрын
It was amazing how quickly the people of Hobart got things up and running, the army built a Bailey Bridge, which stood for many years until a new second bridge was built, we soon became used to the ferries and the longer drive around, but we got on with it, a few years earlier we had dealt with terrible bush fires where over 70 people died so the people of Tasmania are a very resilient lot.
@everyhandletaken
@everyhandletaken 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention resilient to the cold winters- I failed the resilience test & moved to QLD 😳
@StoryVoracious
@StoryVoracious 2 жыл бұрын
Pity we weren't a little more resilient with our public transport rail system. How long have you had to wait on the Brooker hwy lately?! 🙄
@stevenguy7363
@stevenguy7363 2 жыл бұрын
My father was one of the soldiers involved in transporting people across the river while the Bailey bridge was being built. We lived there for two years
@notablynova
@notablynova 2 жыл бұрын
The green Holden hanging from the bridge actually still survived and is still owned by the couple that were in it when the bridge collapsed as of 10 years ago, there's video of them here on YT it's pretty cool as that's a world famous car lol
@benji274
@benji274 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that car is in a museum in Launceston. The owner is still alive today (aged 93), though his wife passed away a few years ago
@timmylovell
@timmylovell 2 жыл бұрын
@@benji274 which car is in the museum?
@benji274
@benji274 2 жыл бұрын
The green one (the Holden HQ Monaro), dangling over the gap in the bridge
@davetaylor2088
@davetaylor2088 2 жыл бұрын
I think it went up for sale a couple of years ago. Most famous car in Australia!
@dialupdude
@dialupdude Жыл бұрын
The other car is still around as well! Just much less well known and not in a museum.
@keithweiss7899
@keithweiss7899 2 жыл бұрын
I watched a tug barely turn its barges on the Mississippi at Cape Girardeau. I was sure he would hit it, but he barely made it through. His engines roared so loudly it shook the city! I can’t imagine watching a collision like this! Thanks!
@davetaylor2088
@davetaylor2088 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Tassie boy myself and remember the bridge going down. Years later I worked for the water authority and some of the fellas there had some interesting stories too - the bridge was the main route for water supply to that part of the Eastern Shore. I was on the bridge when we did some maintenance and looked down through the open access plate to the water below. I second the "Balls" comment. How about Tropical Cyclone Tracy next (if you haven't already covered that one).
@oldcynic6964
@oldcynic6964 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm Cyclone Tracy was a natural disaster rather than a man-made stuff-up. I don't think that fits within John's remit.
@tiberiusgracchus4222
@tiberiusgracchus4222 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine the terror of being in one of those cars that ended up hanging halfway off the missing span of the bridge. Then comes the fear of being rear ended and pushed off.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Really terrifying
@YokRzeznic
@YokRzeznic 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmfVaqZ4gquDhtk he still has the Monaro btw
@MrLaz0rz
@MrLaz0rz 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen that happen in my dream, wasn't me thankfully
@JakobusVdL
@JakobusVdL 2 жыл бұрын
or the terror of the poor drivers who actually drove over the edge - what an awful way to be killed.
@paddyvlogz6138
@paddyvlogz6138 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the content. Being Hobart born and raised, it's great seeing your documentary on our bridge. Using the bridge as much as we do, it's a weird feeling to know what had happened to it and the people evolved.
@DinsdalepiranHa3
@DinsdalepiranHa3 2 жыл бұрын
The Dinosaur bridge! Cheers, John, for covering this! Hobart has copped it a bit (fires, bridge collapse, among other events), it's cool to see your eye on this little state 😀
@TimPerfetto
@TimPerfetto 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you ruining his life? Eating hair wont help you
@leobenjamin7950
@leobenjamin7950 Жыл бұрын
@@TimPerfetto what
@thetassieboys
@thetassieboys 2 жыл бұрын
Well... I can say this was the first time I've ever watched a PD video whilst waiting to cross the bridge in the video... The fog horns were going off and flashing lights due to a cargo ship passing underneath. They have learned their lesson about safety haha A bit surreal! Thank you for doing this video
@definiti0n58
@definiti0n58 2 жыл бұрын
@plainly difficult A couple of fun facts: - They added an extra lane to the bridge as you noted, but the deck was never made bigger to accomodate it. Lanes are tight so there is a speed limit of 70km/hr that is policed via fixed speed cameras. Riding a push bike on the pedestrian footways is bloody scary, though they are talking about upgrading this. - The centre lane of the 5 lanes changes direction twice a day to accomodate peak hour traffic coming and going from Hobart. - I laughed when you mentioned that one of the reasons they replaced the floating bridge was so that traffic wouldn’t need to stop when a ship went through. The irony here is: ever since the collapse and rebuild, traffic has to stop either side of the bridge when a ship comes through due to safety concerns! Great video mate, cheers
@TassieExplorer
@TassieExplorer 2 жыл бұрын
They also now stop all traffic when a large ship is going under the bridge
@WolfGirlSpells
@WolfGirlSpells 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see more Australian stories. Could you cover the one about the west gate bridge collapse in Melbourne Australia? I happen to live in Melbourne and survivors from the disaster are still alive to this day
@Musikur
@Musikur 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please, this is something which doesn't get nearly enough attention
@VitZ9
@VitZ9 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't really a disaster though, not like this. Nobody was on the Westgate except workmen, and only like 2 people died.
@Kevin-go2dw
@Kevin-go2dw 2 жыл бұрын
@@VitZ9 35 died in the collapse. Students from the primary school (grade 6) I attended were on an excursion and watched it fall.
@surfrescue3232
@surfrescue3232 8 ай бұрын
lol wow ! Stupidest comment on KZbin…not to mention disrespectful to the 35 families who lost loved ones.
@ben.alldridge
@ben.alldridge 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing all of these old photos of an area you drive through every day is such a weird feeling…
@headwerkn
@headwerkn 2 жыл бұрын
The number of close calls from Hobartians are legendary. My grandparents crossed the bridge all of an hour before the collapse. Man kept several photos in one of her albums and I was always fascinated by it as a kid. Probably worth mentioning that they now temporarily stop traffic over the bridge when ships of a certain size pass underneath - negating the original design concept.
@johngy6296
@johngy6296 2 жыл бұрын
A friend’s father was lucky enough to pull-up before rear-ending the stopped cars on the bridge. His experience caused him a significant phobia and he never travelled over it again. Instead he’d drive the extra hour+ each way to avoid the Tasman bridge, dropping off and picking up the kids from school on his way too and from work daily. It was odd to see such a tough old fella so consumed with fear, about something as seemingly mundane as driving over a bridge.
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 2 жыл бұрын
You understand a bit more when you start looking over the edge
@jacquesc0usteau
@jacquesc0usteau 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents live in Lindisfarne, just across the bridge from the city, on the main road. I always grew up with my mum and dad telling me stories about this night. My dad remembers hearing the collision and subsequent collapse. Because of how small Hobart is, it just feels totally surreal that you’re covering something that my family has ALWAYS talked about. I was in Hobart in September and the way the bridge is now is very nicely done (IMO). Thanks for covering this one John, another video I can send to my dad so that he can tell me about that night again. 😅
@johnladuke6475
@johnladuke6475 2 жыл бұрын
It's like there's some kind of course in ship captain school where someone stands at the front and says "if you aren't lined up quite properly with a bridge, you _must not ever_ slow down or stop to straighten out, just go full speed ahead while turning wildly from side to side."
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Johnno, a tragic story well told, with respect to those who lost their lives. In return, a handy pronunciation guide for non-Aussie blokes/chicks: - Tasmania was pronounced correctly. - TAZ-m'n not Taz-MAN, even though it's actually named after a man (Dutch explorer Abel Tasman, the first European to discover the island). We swallow the final syllable all the time in our lingo, see also MEL-b'n / BRIS-b'n / CAN-b'ra. - Contrary to the above, Hobart is pronounced Hoe-baht not Hoe-b't. The conventional pronunciation for Queensland is as it appears, but you will sometimes hear people shorten it to Queensl'nd. - Not a bad attempt at "Lake Illawarra", indigenous place names are often challenging. The correct pronunciation is "Illa-WORRAH". At the start of 2022 our national scientific research org (CSIRO) in completed a detailed underwater mapping project of the wreck, the old and new bridge pylons and the surrounding marine environment in partnership with a private firm. I believe the purpose is to devise a proper management strategy to ensure the SS Lake Illawarra presents no hazard to marine life etc. Cool project.
@chrisp2153
@chrisp2153 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, John probably would have gotten Illawarra better if he hadn't been working from a typo
@randomdude4669
@randomdude4669 2 жыл бұрын
The pronunciation of tasman as tasmin is from the English ie Englishmin
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily, he managed to get Tasman right at the end of the video.
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
Funny - US English (northeastern anyway) "swallows" the a in "___man" words about half the time, like policeman, statesman, spokesman. Defensive lineman. (these days, "defensive lineperson") Repairman is mixed. But names ending in "man" (like Tasman) always get their A's swallowed. If there are exceptions, I can't think of any. Edit: superhero names are the exceptions. No one here says Batm'n or Spider-m'n. I'm sure it's the same down under lol
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott 2 жыл бұрын
@@nthgth What about Oman?
@ZoeAlleyne
@ZoeAlleyne 2 жыл бұрын
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Also the way you pronounce Tasman as Taz Man is very amusing, I like it.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed!
@ZoeAlleyne
@ZoeAlleyne 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult I went over this bridge recently and I had no idea. So you really dig deep to find some of these stories. Love your work, been suggesting it to my people who also like the dark/tragic event history mini docco formats.
@homeblankingK
@homeblankingK 2 жыл бұрын
you channel has given me faith in railroads and crippling bridge anxiety 🙃
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
🌝🌞
@battleblaster4203
@battleblaster4203 2 жыл бұрын
Dont be too sure of railroads they can be even more dangerous
@111jacare
@111jacare 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult: Suggest you have a look at the Granville Train crash disaster, c1977. Granville, New South Wales, Australia. There are stories that this was covered up at the highest levels, something to do with the wheels on the rolling stock.
@smitajky
@smitajky 9 ай бұрын
You might want to read about the first Tay bridge. It might alter your faith somewhat.
@peanuthurricane
@peanuthurricane 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy you popped up in my recommended. I’m autistic, and have always been fascinated with the failure of humans, and the catastrophes that follow. If you’re interested in disasters in Australia, might I recommend the West Gate Bridge disaster? I know it’s another bridge collapse, but I still highly recommend looking into it. Again, love your videos, and can’t wait to see what you cover next! :D
@DrJatzCrackers
@DrJatzCrackers 2 жыл бұрын
The way the Westgate collapsed is equally as interesting though. Good topic!
@bagelbagelwah5047
@bagelbagelwah5047 2 жыл бұрын
Autistic here too, and for some reason, engineering disasters have always been a special interest since I was young.
@bagelbagelwah5047
@bagelbagelwah5047 2 жыл бұрын
Autistic here too, and for some reason, engineering disasters have always been a special interest since I was young.
@GranRey-0
@GranRey-0 2 жыл бұрын
"Slow this ship yea!" I definitely read this with an Aussie accent...lol Thanks John, great video!
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@kateemma22
@kateemma22 2 жыл бұрын
Short for 'slow this ship yea f**kin c*nts'.
@clubsportr08
@clubsportr08 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video FYI they also now "Stop" traffic on both sides of the Bridge whenever a large ship passes under the Bridge and won't allow it to open until it has cleared the span.
@socluded
@socluded 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother was crossing the bridge when the boat struck it. She was wondering why the lights had gone out and only saw the car in front of her had stopped when it was too late to stop. She was the car that struck the station wagon and knocked the front wheels over the edge. She lived another 20 years after that night and we were thankful that the car she hit saved her and that the car wasn’t knocked over the edge too.
@carokat1111
@carokat1111 2 жыл бұрын
wow
@MisterTipp
@MisterTipp 2 жыл бұрын
There was something like this that happened in Sweden, in the 80s I believe, and it was pretty terrifying! You should do a video in it
@michaeltempsch5282
@michaeltempsch5282 2 жыл бұрын
18 January 1980 01:30 at night, Tjörnbron (aka Almöbron) was hit by a ship and collapsed in the dark and fog. 7 cars went over the edge with 8 people killed
@MisterTipp
@MisterTipp 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltempsch5282 my dad would always point that out when we drove over the bridge and it would freak me out, because that bridge is really tall
@ThePapaja1996
@ThePapaja1996 2 жыл бұрын
Tjörnbron 9 january 1980 01:30.
@michaeltempsch5282
@michaeltempsch5282 2 жыл бұрын
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 1½ hours past midnight, aka 01:30 in the 24 hour system, which I'd call night... Some may call it morning, but I personally draw that distinction about 04:00...
@whiterex66
@whiterex66 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has grown up in Hobart this video is fascinating. I've always known the basic history of it but not quite in this much detail and with this much story telling. Well done.
@reeee88
@reeee88 2 жыл бұрын
i was born in this city, i swear everyone has a story with this disaster. Teachers would tell me they were on the bridge or friends and family would say they heard it or saw it. Tasmania is a pretty small place roughly the same size as Ireland only the majority or Tasmanians live in the capital Hobart, so it would make sense so many people remember personally. I'm so glad you made a video on little Tasmania, I wish more youtubers would give us some more attention.
@ED-es2qv
@ED-es2qv 2 жыл бұрын
I think there’s a collective memory thing going on, because there couldn’t have been that many people on the bridge. I’ve already heard about an impossible number of witnesses within a day of this video.
@random-protogen
@random-protogen 2 жыл бұрын
no way! it cool to see a larger youtuber talk about somewhat remote places like my beloved tassie iv loved your vids for years and to bring it local is super cool
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, I was wondering how long it would take to cover this one. it was a huge disaster not just in deaths but the fact that 1000s of people could not get to work without a three-hour round trip each way for weeks until ferries sufficient for the computers as well as new bus routes to and from them were provided. The ship is indeed still there, a very detailed (and quite interesting) sonar survey of her was done a couple of years ago. On the odd occasion I'm in Hobart I still don't like that bridge.
@Teukka72
@Teukka72 2 жыл бұрын
If you need another round of cargo vessel vs. bridge altercations, you could do one on the Almö Bridge in western Sweden.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion I’ll have to have a look into it
@ThePapaja1996
@ThePapaja1996 2 жыл бұрын
almö/tjörnbron
@jadefalcon001
@jadefalcon001 2 жыл бұрын
Heh. “Altercations” is an amusing word choice.
@Teukka72
@Teukka72 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadefalcon001 Comic relief due to the subject matter 😀
@adrianapeace3601
@adrianapeace3601 2 жыл бұрын
Hey , im a hobartian and i loved the video ! One small mistake , you said after the accident people had to drive for hours upstream to cross the derwent. Its actually only 20 or 30 minutes to the bridgewater bridge, about 19 k on the hobart side, and 24 k on the clarence side. The first bridge there opened in 1845! And the bridge thats there now openeded in 1946 :)
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 2 жыл бұрын
John, your production quality and and content are *top notch*. Bravo, sir!
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@blue-pi2kt
@blue-pi2kt 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content and will forgive the pronunciation but it's a jarring experience.
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult Except for your pronunciation of Australian place names.
@kylei4153
@kylei4153 2 жыл бұрын
Lived in Tasmania my whole life, specifically Eastern Shore areas. Its cool seeing people in other countries talk about this disaster. Every kid in Tasmania is taught pretty early what happened to the bridge. My Nanna even had photos of cars hanging off the bridge. I always hear the same thing from people who were old enough to remember it though, and thats that it could of been 10 times worse if it had happened a day before or after. Saturday & Monday being some of the busiest days in Hobart. Because it was a Sunday, that's always been a "stay home" kind of day. And thank god for that.
@mcrazza
@mcrazza 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of Hobartians of a certain age could tell you plenty of stories about "that night" and how it affected the city in the days, weeks, months and years after. My dad, who at the time was living in Sandy Bay, said he heard the ship slam into the bridge. It was so loud people up and down the river heard it. The disaster affected many people in different ways. One major impact was commute times. For example, what would have been a short drive across the bridge from Hobart became more than an hour's drive or a 50km trip as commuters travelled north to Bridgewater just to cross the Bridgewater Bridge and then back down the eastern shore to Rosny. One positive thing borne out of the bridge disaster was local ferry operator Bob Clifford and his innovative ferry catamarans, which at the time provided a crucial lifeline for people. He later established Incat Tasmania, a major shipbuilding company which build radically designed catamarans, are sold all around the globe and are the biggest "cats" in the world. Brits who have crossed the English Channel will recognise the distinctive catamaran ferries.
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 2 жыл бұрын
The Tasman bridge was not the only thing this vessel collided with!! Several years earlier, it collided with the jetty at Rapid Bay, South Australia.
@the_real_fiz2zy
@the_real_fiz2zy 2 жыл бұрын
Its always nice to see Tasmania being talked about by popular KZbin channels, even if it is about some of our more morbid pieces of history. We do feel a bit forgotten about sometimes
@EddieMagpie
@EddieMagpie 2 жыл бұрын
Always a good watch. Well presented and informative as always. Good because you don't overdramatise the event. Just good clear information. Now I am looking forward to the next video.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@ScrumBeeble
@ScrumBeeble 2 жыл бұрын
You'd think after like 10,000 years of building bridges and having them fall down, we would've figured this shit out by now.
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
Well, we have bigger ships and different concrete than the Romans.
@chileo1
@chileo1 2 жыл бұрын
They could have built that bridge or any bridge to withstand a ship like that hitting it. The problem isnt we dont know how, just that it makes the cost too high. Its actually even brought up in the video. This applies to pretty much all aspects of civil and mechanical engineering. You build to a certain spec and not beyond that.
@joewalker2152
@joewalker2152 2 жыл бұрын
@@chileo1 You're right, I was told by an old engineer once "Engineering is not how strong you can make something, but how weak you can make it, and it still works" A sobering thought really.....
@Sem5626
@Sem5626 2 жыл бұрын
@@joewalker2152 as an engineer, yes this is very true its almost more... you're trying to make it as strong as possible with as much money as you are allowed to spend
@StoryVoracious
@StoryVoracious 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your research on this Tasmanian disaster, many of us here were kid when it happened; my Stepdad was a police officer on duty at the time. One day it will be forgotten; the Tasman only has 40 years left before it will reach the end of it's recommended life span. We joke here that this is the only river with a Lake at the bottom of it. I've seen several dive clips on the wreck, but it's really dark and murky.
@skystryker2300
@skystryker2300 9 ай бұрын
Lots of people mentioned this incident in wake of the recent bridge collapse in Baltimore.
@nickv4073
@nickv4073 8 ай бұрын
Thats the least of Baltimore's problems. Its more dangerous walking down any street in Baltimore.
@joibus2977
@joibus2977 Жыл бұрын
I’m a Tasmanian local. The bridge collapse was long before my time, but Its still fresh in the minds of my parents and their friends. I get an uneasy feeling whenever I drive over it
@OptimalToast
@OptimalToast 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from it happening, I knew very little of the disaster, thank you for covering it. 🙂
@gardnep
@gardnep 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this production, we in the antipodes frequently feel left out. It has been nearly 50 years and This year I have finally navigated the bridge as do most airline passengers these days. Westgate bridge in Melbourne is another disaster worth looking at.
@bobcloset7963
@bobcloset7963 2 жыл бұрын
When John uploads, it is a good day.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 2 жыл бұрын
Had no idea that triple full astern even existed. Every day is a school day.
@xzytqweo3538
@xzytqweo3538 2 жыл бұрын
Great job, John! Bravo! Bravo! Thanks for your detail videos of quirky and disastrous situations that have occurred in the world today. I currently watched this video in a rainy dreary day in the mountains of western NC, USA. Take care.
@knarf802
@knarf802 2 жыл бұрын
As an aside, i completely relate the jingle and the incoming text at the beginning with "the plainly difficult bloke", and appreciate the consistency in this area.
@NBvagabond
@NBvagabond 2 жыл бұрын
my stepmum still isn't comfortable driving across the tasman bridge. whenever we cross to the eastern shore and she's driving, we always have to take a detour. that's how much the disaster affected her, and she wasn't even on the bridge at the time
@andoletube
@andoletube 2 жыл бұрын
Really - a detour? As in, all the way up to the Bowen Bridge?
@margueriteporte8522
@margueriteporte8522 2 жыл бұрын
The Bowen Bridge did not exist at the time of the disaster
@andoletube
@andoletube 2 жыл бұрын
@@margueriteporte8522 I know, but it sounds like the detour continues to this day so the Bowen bridge would be the likely route unless they really like a long drive to Bridgewater.
@KM-qd4kf
@KM-qd4kf 2 жыл бұрын
I remember family members of crew coming to our office to try and find out if their relatives on the ship had survived. It was a eerie day & I was just a junior at work but it has stayed with me over the years. Around that time the Straitsman sank in the Yarra River, Melbourne, the tug ‘Melbourne’ tipped over in the bay near Williams town, the ‘Joseph Banks’ ran over a fishing trawler in Bass Strait, the ‘Melbourne Trader’ ran over the Port Gellibrand pile light.
@sirjarko8762
@sirjarko8762 2 жыл бұрын
I went to the HIgh school overlooking this bridge (Rose Bay High) a few years back and I remember when I was in grade 7 in the library I found an old picture of the bridge just after it collapsed with parts still sticking out of the water in perfect view from the school. Its still kinda crazy to think about. Also now days when you cross it on windy days it can get pretty crazy especially in a bus or a small car. There is also a Museum in Hobart across the bridge with a sculpture of of the bridge and surrounding debree going to down to the ocean floor. Not sure if its still there today as it has been quite a few years since I was at the Museum.
@twigthewonderk1d
@twigthewonderk1d 2 жыл бұрын
i love your channel so much. i have spent the last few days binging your videos because of how interesting they are, coupled with how respectfully you cover each topic. thank you for putting so much effort into your content, it's very educational and interesting!
@DrJatzCrackers
@DrJatzCrackers 2 жыл бұрын
The local knock on effects of the collapse are interesting. As mentioned in the video, the Eastern shore had to become more self sufficient. It resulted in the creation of the Bowen bridge up river (it has better protection on its piers). Number 1 songs were created about the collapse and it put Bob Clifford in the spotlight when he started a ferry service for commuters across the Derwent. He went on to create "Incat" who made (make?) Large Catamarans
@whiterex66
@whiterex66 2 жыл бұрын
Make. Bob is still doing his thing.
@rickybugg2385
@rickybugg2385 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe do a video about where one of Bobs ferries ended up!!!
@SlyracoonFTM
@SlyracoonFTM 2 жыл бұрын
As someone how lives in Hobart it's awesome that you covered this. Legend.
@brettsalter3300
@brettsalter3300 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia, it is pronounced Tasm'n, not Tas Man, but a well researched and interesting documentary for someone who caught ferries back and forth to Lindisfarne during this period.
@vonclaren1
@vonclaren1 2 жыл бұрын
He clearly found pronunciation plainly difficult
@randomdude4669
@randomdude4669 2 жыл бұрын
You would think he'd know how to pronounce it being english unless he says things like englishmAn and craftsmAn
@Votrae
@Votrae 2 жыл бұрын
Did a great job setting up the town and critical function provided, then lost, by the bridge. Truly a 'double balls' disaster. Loving the music channel and Spotify station btw! Cheers
@thegamingteen44mc5
@thegamingteen44mc5 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of aussie bridges and structural failure, you should do the westgate bridge disaster
@elliestubbings9360
@elliestubbings9360 2 жыл бұрын
So good to see tassie history being recognised more on YT!
@Drabbi4her
@Drabbi4her 2 жыл бұрын
holy shit never thought this story would be told by anyone other than a fellow Tasmanian. i guess i was wrong.
@dzidaolek88
@dzidaolek88 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@spinalobifida
@spinalobifida 2 жыл бұрын
They should have put dolphins around 4 posts, two on either side of the shipping lane. Yeah it'll cost more in the short term, but rebuilding it after a collapse would cost more.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@ykhluvr6187
@ykhluvr6187 2 жыл бұрын
as a hobart citizen i love that tassie stories are being spoken about a but recently
@crepethepancake
@crepethepancake 2 жыл бұрын
No way! So cool to see you cover this omg - love from Tasmania :D
@andrewstevenson118
@andrewstevenson118 2 жыл бұрын
Very good, John. Never even heard of it before. Thanks.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@snaphappy7530
@snaphappy7530 2 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting thank-you. My mother's family grew up on the Eastern side of the river in Lidisfarne (you can actually see their house dead centre of frame on the highest part of the hill in white at 8:22). The house always over looked the section of the bridge that was hit and the harbour. I knew the bridge was hit and was different compared to what I saw in the last 20 years I visited but never knew the details. It was interesting to hear the details on how the East/West suburbs grew too; my Nanna was 95 when she past and was one of the last original people there. Some of the gardens at 2:05 looked almost exactly the same until just a few years ago! It's just none of the original generation left anymore.
@xinfires4649
@xinfires4649 2 жыл бұрын
My my if it isn’t another Plainly Difficult Video to watch while I procrastinate my Uni work
@SupersuMC
@SupersuMC 2 жыл бұрын
Stop procrastinating! XD
@Darryl_Frost
@Darryl_Frost 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid sir, I remember this one when I was a kid.
@spinalobifida
@spinalobifida 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Those cars dangling off the edge got real lucky
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
Code brown moment.💩
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 2 жыл бұрын
The Monaro is still in the same family!
@angriella
@angriella 2 жыл бұрын
@@marvindebot3264 If that was me I'd never part with the thing either!
@benrussell-gough1201
@benrussell-gough1201 2 жыл бұрын
"It would make the cost of the bridge prohibitive". My hackles always rise when I hear things like that.
@Redboots
@Redboots 2 жыл бұрын
speaking of 'it was lucky that more vehicles weren't involved', I'll always remember the story that my family (grandparents, mother and aunt) were staying with my great-grandmother who lived on the eastern shore like they usually did every so often, and were going to go have sunday tea with another relative who lived somewhere in hobart itself. but my grandmother didn't want to arrive back in the dark, so for once, her wanting everyone to stay home and not travel at night was a good thing, because they'd have been on the bridge heading home when the accident happened. will forever have the photograph my mother took the next morning in my brain, along with the song written about the kerfuffle that was crossing the derwent afterwards (thanks dad!)
@xr6lad
@xr6lad 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Every time I see this story it seems the entire population of the city was ‘just about to cross it’. Must have been bad traffic that day as 100,000 people all were ‘about’ to cross that bridge.
@Redboots
@Redboots 2 жыл бұрын
@@xr6lad lmao that's one of the jokes that's come about in the past half century! if it's worth anything the story my family has is true though
@JasonFlorida
@JasonFlorida 2 жыл бұрын
And yet another Plainly Difficult masterpiece! Thank you!
@elizabethscott7660
@elizabethscott7660 2 жыл бұрын
My father was to join the Illawarra the next day. Instead we woke to the news that the men he worked with had died. I had known five of those men since I could walk and talk as my father was a Marine Engineer with ANL. There is more to the story than was allowed to be made public and the Old Man didn't deserve the treatment he got from the ANL. He was an excellent mariner whose life was also destroyed by what was, ultimately, an event forced on him by others mistakes.
@robertharding4166
@robertharding4166 2 жыл бұрын
G'day Elizabeth. My grandfather Goldie was a chief engineer. And was also meant to be on that ship but was rushed to hospital with kidney stones before he was due to embark. I'm pretty sure from memory that was the problem. Although the crew I heard wished he was there. He did retire in mid late 80s with full distinctions as also serving in "merchant navy" during ww2. And he was a golden. 👍
@Teddysaw1988
@Teddysaw1988 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid mate.. they shut the bridge now every time a sizable ship has to go under it 👍
@virginiascurti5036
@virginiascurti5036 9 ай бұрын
I guess you will have to add the Baltimore Francis Scott Key Bridge in a year when the Coat Guard and NTSB get finished with their investigations.
@pedrodizon5939
@pedrodizon5939 Жыл бұрын
6:04 - helmsman was Robert Banks, not Bank. I'm his son. Dad always said that Capt Pelc almost ran into trouble just getting out of Newcastle on that trip, and that coming up the Derwent Pelc looked at the casino and said "we won't make it there tonight", making dad think for the rest of his days that Capt had his mind more on the casino than on the ship he was trying to navigate...
@PaulAJohnston1963
@PaulAJohnston1963 2 жыл бұрын
Having been in the Merchant Navy myself I find the decision to go full speed ahead when you would normally be running "under command" (a term we used for when we may need to react especially rapidly) rather dodgy. I know at slow speed manoeuvring can be difficult but if you are going to hit something do it slowly. Simple laws of physics show energy is proportional to the velocity squared. Still that's the deck department for you. Eminence over evidence. See why the company got rid of the captain.
@apathyisdeath2977
@apathyisdeath2977 9 ай бұрын
"A bridge being struck by a cargo vessel seems to be a story as old at time." Considering what just happened in Baltimore, this has aged like a fine wine.
@marklambert3428
@marklambert3428 2 жыл бұрын
Have you though of doing one on the 1970 west gate bridge disaster? It’s a 10 lane bridge over the Yarra river in Melbourne Australia. During construction one span fell off the end, killing about 40 workers. Australia’s worst industrial accident.
@matthewraymond2200
@matthewraymond2200 2 жыл бұрын
While I have seen some photos I know nothing about the Westgate Bridge collapse in Victoria Australia. I hope you could do a short documentary on it. I have just discovered your channel and will be spending a while today watching as many of your videos as I can.
@group4x121
@group4x121 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Hobart and have seen the Tasman my whole life. So weird seeing you do a vid on this but really very cool. Big fan! (ps Tasman is pronounced with a short sound on the second a, so it sounds like Tasmin)
@ShevillMathers
@ShevillMathers 2 жыл бұрын
In the early 1970’s I was working in a newly established forensic pathology section in the State Health Dept. I was assistant to the forensic pathologist, my time being spent in the mortuary, laboratory, or at crimes scenes with human involvement. Needless to say, our work following the Tasman Bridge disaster, was very challenging with the number of fatalities. I had only a couple of weeks earlier taken some night time images from the Queens Domain, an excellent vantage point to look down on the illuminated bridge and river. This photograph is unique as it shows the original bridge spans, The rebuilt section has a different span width, so loses its symmetry. During the following time without the bridge, we crossed the Derwent by army duck, helicopter and whatever means was available to carry out or forensic work on the Eastern Shore. Interesting times indeed.
@LenoraTheYinglet
@LenoraTheYinglet 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. A disaster I know of because I live here.
@NightfallTrueCrime
@NightfallTrueCrime 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@coombesy4015
@coombesy4015 2 жыл бұрын
Me three!
@ivfluid
@ivfluid 2 жыл бұрын
I love these bridge videos. I don't know why. I watched every bridge video of yours yesterday lol
@Wraithstrike
@Wraithstrike 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Italian Job reference there.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@NHGMitchell
@NHGMitchell 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it had me laughing out loud
@dertriejeej4840
@dertriejeej4840 2 жыл бұрын
I live up in Mt Stuart, it was like a big thunderstorm we heard. We went out the front to see if we could see anything, no but my husband turned his radio on later, and it had just started telling people about it. There wasn't a lot to learn except for the cars going over, there was much more new in the morning. A tragedy that shouldn't have happened.
@mementomori3613
@mementomori3613 2 жыл бұрын
And now all that bridge does is give you speeding ticket and a ticket for breaking down on it but you get a free tow off the bridge and the guy is a legend
@kateemma22
@kateemma22 2 жыл бұрын
Always love to see you in my part of the world, John!
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
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