The Tedesco Brothers Expose UAP Debunker Mick West

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@juliepowers9552
@juliepowers9552 2 күн бұрын
So happy to see John and Gerry have the opportunity to respond and back up their groundbreaking research, they are experts in this field of study, excellent job guys! Thank you Matt, I'm even a bigger fan now!!!
@Akhremenko-SOI
@Akhremenko-SOI 9 күн бұрын
AMAZING! THANKS MATT!
@chrisfraser3435
@chrisfraser3435 2 күн бұрын
When they are critical of your grammer they have nothing else. Keep up the great work guys! Your on the right side of history 👏
@charliefowkes1932
@charliefowkes1932 8 күн бұрын
So proud to be supporting the right side of things here… well done bros and Matt
@JROD082384
@JROD082384 11 күн бұрын
The Tedesco brothers are the most generous human beings on this planet by giving Mick West the compliment of being "clever". Mick West is about as clever as a dried bottle of elmer's school paste...
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
So why is he right and the brothers are wrong?
@Jennifer-gr8nw
@Jennifer-gr8nw 11 күн бұрын
Excellent work Matt and Tedesco bros calling out Mr West and co. Bet he’s not happy 😂
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
He's already responded. Watch it..
@darklight2.1
@darklight2.1 11 күн бұрын
Actually Jenniifer, you should simply watch his reply and judge for yourself whether Mick seems unhappy. Calmly confidant in his conclusions would be my assessment-of course, your own may differ. Keep in mind that this imagery has been thoroughly examined and analyzed over on his forum quite awhile ago, so the idea that this was just a misjudgement and misidentification by the brothers isn't new.
@paulatreides6779
@paulatreides6779 12 күн бұрын
Mick who?
@bernardpalir
@bernardpalir 5 күн бұрын
Mick west explained everything to you well and I believe him and know he is right.
@marrs911
@marrs911 9 күн бұрын
Bravo Matt! 👏🙌 👍 I've never seen so many Mick West fans go all over someone in the comment! The Tedesco brothers and you really hit the nail on the head! Thank you! 💫
@adamziemann4170
@adamziemann4170 12 күн бұрын
Man! I Love your show!!!
@Lynda-777
@Lynda-777 12 күн бұрын
Tedesco brothers are extremely credible.
@davidgalea6113
@davidgalea6113 12 күн бұрын
They are the best uap investigators out there, very clever engineers are exactly what we need to get some evidence based data.
@dragonfly6955
@dragonfly6955 12 күн бұрын
And very nice people too.
@12HedmanLane
@12HedmanLane 12 күн бұрын
Then show us the original with Metadata
@dragonfly6955
@dragonfly6955 12 күн бұрын
@@12HedmanLane Why don't you guys go investigate yourself? Also, did you watch the whole video? I doubt it.
@davidkingsford1010
@davidkingsford1010 12 күн бұрын
​@@12HedmanLane I C Bot
@jss9371
@jss9371 12 күн бұрын
Hi Matt! Thanks to the brothers.
@TheGoodTroubleShow
@TheGoodTroubleShow 12 күн бұрын
You bet!
@ryanmckee6971
@ryanmckee6971 13 күн бұрын
At the end of the day, Lucky Louie AKA Mick West is just like the rest of us working a 9-5, however his full time job happens to be increasing stigmas of the UFO topic and prescribing prosaic explanations to all types of UFO events and news.
@forgotten_world
@forgotten_world 12 күн бұрын
Mick is not a skeptic, he's a scammer, who is being paid to m i s i n f o r m people, he's part of a p s y o p.
@voidagent
@voidagent 12 күн бұрын
No, Mick the Dick West does not work. He is a multi-millionaire, so money is not the motivation.
@TheGoodTroubleShow
@TheGoodTroubleShow 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the reply!
@Womble1252
@Womble1252 12 күн бұрын
Have a look at his new vid response, see if the bros can argue it😂
@sfbearcat8637
@sfbearcat8637 12 күн бұрын
mick removed my comment!! Ha must be true to his real reason!
@miguelangeldiaz9380
@miguelangeldiaz9380 13 күн бұрын
This should prove to be hilarious
@TheGoodTroubleShow
@TheGoodTroubleShow 12 күн бұрын
Facts
@bigfatbruce
@bigfatbruce 12 күн бұрын
It was. Mick totally proved which direction they were facing.
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
@@bigfatbruce Will they apologise?
@lukesters7234
@lukesters7234 11 күн бұрын
@@mana3735 of course they won’t. They’ll just double down like they always do, it’s just glorious to see them so obviously caught out. Made my week
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
@ Appalling people. Shameful.
@NemesisActual
@NemesisActual 12 күн бұрын
Great show as always, Matt! Thanks John and Gerry Tedesco for a wonderful presentation and counterargument. You guys rock!!!!
@pgpilot3884
@pgpilot3884 12 күн бұрын
@@NemesisActual They're rock wrong, Mick West proved it.
@stuartfisher8419
@stuartfisher8419 12 күн бұрын
As a Brit I can only apologise for Mick West. He is a disgrace to the UK.
@MONKeEeYboi
@MONKeEeYboi 12 күн бұрын
As another Brit I disown him.
@peterdelia1814
@peterdelia1814 12 күн бұрын
It will take more than Mick West to disgrace the UK. You can rest peacefully most of us here that follow the topic know full well he is not a rational skeptic but a debunker.
@mana3735
@mana3735 12 күн бұрын
@@MONKeEeYboi He's right, though.
@Choobaccy
@Choobaccy 12 күн бұрын
Me too, there seems to be a plague of dumb brits in the media these days, I guess you know who I mean?
@Tomteeejay
@Tomteeejay 12 күн бұрын
Mick West is perfectly correct in regards to the direction in the video. You can even match up the Tedesco Brothers video to the exact bench and even the tree. They were obviously NOT filming in the direction that they claimed to be. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4CzhqlnbrOqq9k
@7even285
@7even285 13 күн бұрын
Mick West is the reason people no longer associate British accents with intelligence.
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 12 күн бұрын
As a Brit, his drivel doesn't make any sense to us either.
@TheGoodTroubleShow
@TheGoodTroubleShow 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the reply!
@alderstrom3468
@alderstrom3468 12 күн бұрын
I have asked Mick West his thoughts on the Schumer Rounds amendments being blocked. If there is nothing to hide then why was it blocked? There was no response, yet he was quick to respond when someone was praising him. I think he has been tasked with misinformation as the mainstream media are quick to use him and Neil de grass tyson to debunk.
@ballynoehouse
@ballynoehouse 12 күн бұрын
Gives our Brit open-mindness a bad name. A total dolt.
@kegyen
@kegyen 12 күн бұрын
Hahaha
@virtualee2000
@virtualee2000 11 күн бұрын
Why does the media keep giving credence to the overtly silly things Mick West says? It just helps to promote what he says to a broader audience. You have literally spent one hour talking about him, which must be extremely flattering, since there is no such thing as bad publicity.
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
He's proven he was right all along.
@UAV1632
@UAV1632 10 күн бұрын
Mick has no training to make these claims and altering someone else's work completely discredits him.
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos 9 күн бұрын
@@mana3735 👅👅👅
@mana3735
@mana3735 9 күн бұрын
@@UAV1632 He proved these were lyi...mistaken.
@romper4444
@romper4444 Күн бұрын
Because the media is a bought and paid for extension arm of the govt deep state. That's been painfully obvious for about 10yrs now
@simple-Earthling
@simple-Earthling 12 күн бұрын
Much love Matt and Tedesco Brothers. Thanks for the great work as always, truly a pleasure watching your insightful discussions.
@shogga690
@shogga690 12 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see Mick West response 😂
@TheGoodTroubleShow
@TheGoodTroubleShow 12 күн бұрын
He will request the raw footage of this show
@AL-rf2fr
@AL-rf2fr 12 күн бұрын
@@TheGoodTroubleShowtrue lol
@shogga690
@shogga690 12 күн бұрын
@@TheGoodTroubleShow very funny. 😂 Keep up the excellent work. It’s much appreciated.
@dragonfly6955
@dragonfly6955 12 күн бұрын
@@TheGoodTroubleShow 😂😂
@dragonfly6955
@dragonfly6955 12 күн бұрын
I can definitely wait ;)
@Dolphination
@Dolphination 12 күн бұрын
Can't believe how much is kicking off in Jan25!
@romper4444
@romper4444 Күн бұрын
Just love the passion and spirit of these guys and what they are accomplishing. Shows we dont need the govt to tell us whats going on
@tomosa6880
@tomosa6880 11 күн бұрын
Matt, I noticed that you rightfully, defend the whistleblowers and witnesses, against the debunkers, and you bring up my unfortunately, fellow Brit, nearly every show. Don't bow to it man, West is not a scientist, he doesn't read data properly, he's delusional and I think you should leave it at that mate, if we all ignore him, he'll go away. Roll on 8pm eastern time, or 1am in the UK, for Ross Coulthard's footage of a crash retrieval. Great channel Matt. Love these two brothers. Keep it up. 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸🇺🇦🤟
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
Have you seen the latest Mick West video? hahaha
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos 9 күн бұрын
@@mana3735 👅👅👅
@leegrass6954
@leegrass6954 12 күн бұрын
Awesome these are my two favorite guys you’re doing a great job!! So what is West”s agenda-who is paying him???
@brianmcsorley3229
@brianmcsorley3229 12 күн бұрын
Who has the most money ?
@MANICK_SUPREME
@MANICK_SUPREME 12 күн бұрын
Mick is turning reality in to the game realm. To debunk!! Easy way to debunk everything.!!
@lukesters7234
@lukesters7234 11 күн бұрын
@@MANICK_SUPREME yeah I know. Facts….you can prove anything with facts. What good are they?
@Mudguts1973
@Mudguts1973 12 күн бұрын
I think everyone should watch Mick West's "response video!"
@alpineuniverse
@alpineuniverse 11 күн бұрын
@@Mudguts1973 yess!
@jessekayne178
@jessekayne178 12 күн бұрын
It honestly pains me to see this much time devoted to Mick West. He is an utter moron for pushing a dod false narrative. End of discussion. Evidence overwhelming. Lets resume the discussion about NHI and UAP.
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos 9 күн бұрын
👏🙌
@betageek66
@betageek66 11 күн бұрын
I think it's pretty straightforward that West's analysis is correct. Anyone can go into Google Earth, line up the bench with the tree, and find the compass direction that the camera was pointed at, which was Kennedy Airport. I grew up in an area nearby on Long Island and if I had a dollar for every plane with twinkling headlights (heat waves off Long Island's extensive pavement) that I saw ascending after take off, illuminating with their landing lights low lying clouds and then vanishing into them, I' be a wealthy person. That they hold the video in question as anything other than a plane is just ludicrous. They can wave around "data" from their "tracking system" on their RV all they want. It was a plane.
@isyt1
@isyt1 11 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@kahlrhoam6769
@kahlrhoam6769 10 күн бұрын
Well, HELLO to a CIA Volunteer. Ignoring multiple spectrums beyond human sight, much? Mick West likes his suckers.
@matthiasgrunwald895
@matthiasgrunwald895 10 күн бұрын
Mick West is right! All the time actually.!
@skunk2010
@skunk2010 10 күн бұрын
Mick west is a plonker... Talks absolute rubbish. Keep the blinkers on folks and enjoy your 1 lane existence 😅
@UsernameVincent
@UsernameVincent 10 күн бұрын
​@skunk2010 'Blinkers' are when you're on Google maps and won't turn your head 50 degrees to see the distinct looking hedge, park bench and plane leaving JFK that all line up with the Tedesco's video _precisely_
@movieknight68
@movieknight68 12 күн бұрын
Mick West is essentially saying that everybody else is wrong and that he is right.
@zunar_j5_933
@zunar_j5_933 12 күн бұрын
West is loud, but unqualified.
@bernardpalir
@bernardpalir 5 күн бұрын
If it's all true, where is the evidence?
@networkimprov
@networkimprov 12 күн бұрын
Not sure why honest investigators feel obliged to cooperate with intellectually dishonest debunkers. Just a terrible waste of time; there's plenty of other sources of insightful constructive criticism.
@mana3735
@mana3735 12 күн бұрын
Who are the dishonest ones?
@networkimprov
@networkimprov 12 күн бұрын
@@mana3735 debunkers!
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos 9 күн бұрын
@@mana3735 👅👅👅👅
@UTP-SOI
@UTP-SOI 9 күн бұрын
👍 @netw
@mana3735
@mana3735 9 күн бұрын
Can't answer that, can you? Obviously, YOU'RE the dishonest ones.
@ZyzyxVile
@ZyzyxVile 12 күн бұрын
"Oh no! People with more than an iPhone camera! Scatter!" - Mock West
@TheGoodTroubleShow
@TheGoodTroubleShow 12 күн бұрын
ha
@anniewelch3436
@anniewelch3436 12 күн бұрын
Great interview Matt. So wonderful to hear the Tedesco Bros talk and explain what they are doing Amazing work. All the very best and keep up the great work. My commiserations to them having to put up with the crap from debunkers with their own selfish agendas.
@Mtheory989
@Mtheory989 5 күн бұрын
Mick west was completely correct in his response. I would encourage you to revisit his analysis. He was extremely patient and he refrained from using any ad hominem attacks unlike this channel. Perhaps some humility and an apology? The condescension from this host is abhorrent. He can’t even abide by his own guidelines for his channel!
@romper4444
@romper4444 Күн бұрын
If you watched the video, the brothers said Mick was respectful of them, but Mick doesn't do the work, his cronies do, and they were the ones who were ridiculing and being disrespectful. This isn't the first time this has happened either. He's done more to bring back the stigma than any other single person in the last 10yrs. He's admitted that he's paid to debunk, so that's what he does. He's not trying to get to the truth. He is a disinfo/discredit agent. I'd respect him if you could find an example of a single case where he's admitted there is no debunking this, it's real. He's just not Interested in unbiased truth. That's the only true fact here
@newby783
@newby783 12 күн бұрын
Mick's rational analysis and response looked good to me.
@Robinhood1966
@Robinhood1966 12 күн бұрын
"looked good' can you be any more ambiguous?
@newby783
@newby783 11 күн бұрын
@Robinhood1966 I'll clarify for you, I agree 100% with Mick's conclusion that it's aeroplane.
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime 12 күн бұрын
To add, debunking starts with a premise of pre-established belief to justify itself. That again, is not scientific skepticism. It’s actually skeptopathy.
@kathleenmurray9724
@kathleenmurray9724 11 күн бұрын
As a Forensic Scientist, you NEVER pretend to be an expert in an area outside your field of expertise; let alone make public statements about specific case studies. Exactly what tertiary qualifications in what specific areas does Mick West have? Whatever official qualifications Mick has, he needs to provide evidence of this. Mick also needs to follow scientific protocol and be professional enough to never speak publicly outside his area of expertise. He is entitled to his opinion. But he must be honest enough to admit whether he is speaking outside his area of professional qualifications. Otherwise, MIck is only sharing his subjective, biased opinion and demanding (falsely) that other tertiary professionals treat him as an expert. Why doesn't Mick provide evidence of his officially recognised qualifications in aeronautics, astronomy, astrophysics or engineering? Mick needs to show us proof of his credentials or actual experts in these fields will not take his social media comments seriously. He will be treated as just another close-minded debunker mouthing off, backed up by his equally scientifically ignorant and unqualified mates.
@darklight2.1
@darklight2.1 11 күн бұрын
Alternatively, you could just base your evaluation of his ideas on their own merit and save yourself the time spent typing out a wall of biased opinions of your own.
@kathleenmurray9724
@kathleenmurray9724 11 күн бұрын
@@darklight2.1 I am not stating my opinion. I am stating the recognised international standard of scientific professionalism, followed by tertiary qualified scientific experts in their fields. Anything less is just anecdotal opinion.
@darklight2.1
@darklight2.1 11 күн бұрын
@@kathleenmurray9724 _"MIck is only sharing his subjective, biased opinion and demanding (falsely) that other tertiary professionals treat him as an expert..."_ When did Mick West ever demand that anyone ever treat him as anything but who he is? Provide examples please. _"He will be treated as just another close-minded debunker mouthing off, backed up by his equally scientifically ignorant and unqualified mates."_ And this isn't simply your opinion? Since when did calling someone names and declaring others-whose credentials you have no knowledge of- as scientifically ignorant and unqualified become a recognized international standard? Mick West analyzes almost exclusively video imagery, and made a near one hour long video detailing his background in the science of computer imagery and explaining why he feels that experience in the math, physics and image analysis used in that field specifically suited him for his current investigations. With that in mind, what qualifies you to demand that he show his credentials before stating his opinions? The supposed standard that you are invoking simply does not apply here and this statement: _"Mick also needs to follow scientific protocol and be professional enough to never speak publicly outside his area of expertise."_ is simply wrong when errantly applied in the type of informal discourse that is represented by this particular social media. Mick, like you and I, appears in no official capacity and his, yours and my own ideas and opinions presented represent no ones but our own. Finally, I would think that a forensic scientist with an interest in the subject at hand would be more interested in addressing the evidence presented than chiding people on a social media platform for what you see as speaking out of turn. Perhaps you should make a video of your own?
@mana3735
@mana3735 10 күн бұрын
Kathleen...have you not seen the video response Mick made?
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos 9 күн бұрын
@@mana3735 👅👅👅👅
@tomreinhardt3139
@tomreinhardt3139 Күн бұрын
Mick West has recently admitted to being paid to debunk by someone he can't name. From that point on none of his debunks can be considered sincere since that's his job and livelihood
@beeasy4360
@beeasy4360 11 күн бұрын
Mock west is a balloon 🎈 everything in mock west eyes are balloons he must love party’s !!
@HarryHartley-pt1cu
@HarryHartley-pt1cu 12 күн бұрын
Hi Matt! Please please please look into what Jeremy (Corbell) said in episode 3 of the new TMZ Ufo Revolution Series. He claimed Congress lied, and explained how and why, could you please dig into this and give us everything you find? Or get Jeremy on the Good Trouble Show, which I love by the way and watch every episodes. Love ya Matt, thanks for all you do.
@kathleenmurray9724
@kathleenmurray9724 11 күн бұрын
To the Tedesco brothers: I would only share instrumental data with experts with professional qualifications in using the same scientific methods; backed up with practical experience using the identical instrumentation (radar systems, image processing software, etc). If you provide your data to anyone else with zero qualifications in that field or no practical experience in using the same high-tech instruments out in the field, you will encounter a breakdown in scientific communication. To put it bluntly, you can explain the data to them, but you cannot 'understand' it for them. If anyone is interested in researching methods used to collect physical evidence on UAPs and really want to learn how to correctly interpret scientific data, they can go study a relevant scientific qualification at Uni; and gain practical experience using a variety of calibrated instrumentation. That's what all scientists/aeronautical engineers/astrophysicists do. Everyone's entitled to their uneducated opinion. But having an interest in something doesn't make you an expert. Anyone who studies science at a post-grad level, understands this most basic scientific protocol. It's an international scientific standard of qualification that's not up for debate by uneducated but enthusiastic onlookers; however well-intentioned they may be. It's no different than studying to be an airline pilot. You study at a qualified institution, get the necessary flight hours and gain a professional qualification that is recognised internationally. Otherwise, don't try to talk like a flight instructor or professional radar operator. Whether you make your life count or not is your choice. It's never too late to take that first step. Every master was a beginner once. As a working scientist, I am looking forward to the day when there will be more expertise shown in this topic.
@darklight2.1
@darklight2.1 10 күн бұрын
No one withholds data based on other people qualifications and their own assessment of who is an expert and who isn't, and there is no evidence that releasing data somehow leads to a breakdown in scientific communication. In fact, just the opposite. The fact that the brothers own data has contradicted their statements at times makes it clear that being able to assess all of the information available is important for any real evaluation of this event. It's called disclosure.
@UTP-SOI
@UTP-SOI 9 күн бұрын
Brava Kate! 👍
@sambal777
@sambal777 12 күн бұрын
Mick West has done a response video proving the data he used was right and the Tedesco brothers were wrong on their lat long and directional data. Have a nice day!
@miramorton9379
@miramorton9379 12 күн бұрын
I wonder why Mick West is being praised by his followers for doing a video to debunk data other people carefully and with lots of personal and monetary invest gathered. Why not go to NJ Mick West, gather your own data, and then analyse abd debunk it? Oh, wait. Thats the hard way. I get it!
@Ifishmo
@Ifishmo 12 күн бұрын
@miramorton9379 He's not trying to make a living providing BS and Misinformation like these two clowns and this channel. He's a sane, rational, talented person who feels compelled to show the truth. Go watch a couple of Mick West's videos before you start talking total nonesense.
@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457
@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457 12 күн бұрын
West produces all sorts of nonsense claiming he has sorted out certain things..but simply hasnt
@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457
@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457 12 күн бұрын
​@@Ifishmowest has never sought the truth. He misses great swathes of evidence and misinterprets many things completely.
@sambal777
@sambal777 12 күн бұрын
@miramorton9379 i praise him for bringing a cold logic and evidence based aproach to these UFO cases showing every step in how they can be explained by more probable things than aliens or physics breaking aircraft. If all he had to do according to you was go to a certain location and "collect his own evidence" why dont the "believers" just do that and bring definitive proof. Could it be because every UFO proof that cant immediately be disproven is exactly because it is so vague, lacking location data or beeing extremely blurry footage?
@Foods4Brains
@Foods4Brains 12 күн бұрын
Someone once said that Mick West’s tombstone will read “Here a Man lies who was Mundane and Prosaic”
@sequfow
@sequfow 12 күн бұрын
2025 - The year of truth. It's all coming out!
@bigfatbruce
@bigfatbruce 12 күн бұрын
Mick West has a great vid on how you guys are -lying- mistaken in what direction you're facing.
@dragonfly6955
@dragonfly6955 12 күн бұрын
Super great, no doubt 😂😂
@sambal777
@sambal777 12 күн бұрын
@@dragonfly6955 yeah its pretty awesome how he only needed a 7 min video to show he is using the correct data and the brothers are either wrong or lying. If you had time to watch this show and make fun of all the people correcting in the comments surely you can watch that 7 min video and even check for yourself with google street view if you're not convinced, to see who is in the right here.
@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457
@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457 12 күн бұрын
​@@sambal777west is a fruit loop when it comes to critical thinking. He should stay away from this subject. He's just a video game player
@KathleenHanrahan-p1u
@KathleenHanrahan-p1u 12 күн бұрын
Matt thanks for a great show. I am so sorry that the brothers have to explain themselves to this weasel. He like many others are obviously on payroll and this is why we don't trust our Governments anymore. We are intelligent people being treated like fools and none of us appreciate it 🙏♥️🇬🇧
@pgpilot3884
@pgpilot3884 12 күн бұрын
The 'weasel' already proved in a new video that the brothers are 100% wrong.
@romper4444
@romper4444 Күн бұрын
For some reason Mick West thinks science is about starting with your conclusion, the same conclusion, EVERY TIME...and then proving it.
@Ellysmurfin
@Ellysmurfin 12 күн бұрын
Great interview with John and Jerry, love the work they're doing. Loved the debunking the debunkers moment 😂🤣 But can we now move on from M.W. and consorts, they're constantly trying to discredit credible ppl, don't scoop to their lvl, imo they're just a bunch of narcissists who don't deserve the attention.
@7heHorror
@7heHorror 11 күн бұрын
I'm just impressed these guys have a 90's era webcam that still works. Why didn't they use that for this interview? I'm nostalgic for that ambiguous grainy look.
@ichi1082
@ichi1082 11 күн бұрын
This video is such an embarrassment, it's actually painful to watch. It is 100% obvious, even from the photographs you show in this video, that Mick is right and you are wrong. Even without watching Micks spot-on response video it is clear that the only people exposed here are you hacks for not being able to do the simplest ADS-B lookup before making your usual outrageous claims.
@kathleenmurray9724
@kathleenmurray9724 11 күн бұрын
As a Forensic Scientist, you NEVER pretend to be an expert in an area outside your field of expertise; let alone make public statements about specific case studies. Exactly what tertiary qualifications in what specific areas does Mick West have? Whatever official qualifications Mick has, he needs to provide evidence of this. Mick also needs to follow scientific protocol and be professional enough to never speak publicly outside his area of expertise. He is entitled to his opinion. But he must be honest enough to admit whether he is speaking outside his area of professional qualifications. Otherwise, MIck is only sharing his subjective, biased opinion and demanding (falsely) that other tertiary professionals treat him as an expert. Why doesn't Mick provide evidence of his officially recognised qualifications in aeronautics, astronomy, astrophysics or engineering? Mick needs to show us proof of his credentials or actual experts in these fields will not take his social media comments seriously. He will be treated as just another close-minded debunker mouthing off, backed up by his equally scientifically ignorant and unqualified mates.
@ichi1082
@ichi1082 11 күн бұрын
​@@kathleenmurray9724 >Whatever official qualifications Mick has, he needs to provide evidence of this No, Mick needs to present compelling evidence for his claims, which is exactly what he does. In fact, the people Mick debated are a prime example why qualifications mean absolutely nothing.
@marrs911
@marrs911 9 күн бұрын
@@kathleenmurray9724 💫💫💫
@romper4444
@romper4444 Күн бұрын
​@@ichi1082did you even watch the video?? They just showed how Mick got many things wrong. Mixed up the data, misrepresented it, lied and then wrongly presented these two brothers data inaccurately. Find a few small errors that make no difference, then throw the baby out with the bathwater. They pegged him perfectly. Mick starts with his conclusion, then sets out to put present the data in a way that proves his conclusion. That is not science. It moves all the progress made by people like these two brothers back decades. He's done this so long now he's become so biased that he can't veer from the course narrative his followers expect of him. Which is set out to debunk every single case presented as hoaxed or a misindentified claim. He is like a criminal defence lawyer defending a murderer. It's doesn't matter if they did it and he knows it, it's his job to poke holes any way possible and provide reasonable doubt so the jury dismisses the case. We all know O.J did it, but he still got off right? Well he must be innocent, Mick West says so!!
@mmoebius330
@mmoebius330 12 күн бұрын
Louie’s Luck has run out.
@vincebaillet2221
@vincebaillet2221 8 күн бұрын
I see what ya did there
@lukesters7234
@lukesters7234 12 күн бұрын
lol…… 15:54 you guys are hilarious ….of course he knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s highlighting the flaws in the sensational claims.
@wearesebastian
@wearesebastian 11 күн бұрын
I was new to the phenomenon in recent years, I followed Mick West alongside a lot of other people int he field. I independently realised he was not a faithful actor and unfollowed him. Why doesn't everyone just unfollow him? Perhaps someone with a large following can get a hashtag going to encouraging that.
@darklight2.1
@darklight2.1 11 күн бұрын
Why would it beimportant to you to encourage people not to even listen to opinions about UFO's that you don't agree with? It seems an odd thing to be afraid of other people being exposed to if one has any confidence in their own beliefs. Have you even watched Mick's response? It's concise, less than 8 minutes in length, but without watching it how can you judge for yourself whether or not he is making valid points? It seems pretty clear to me that these fellows very possibly made a mistake with regards to their viewing angles-not really such a big deal as mistakes can happen to anyone. Wouldn't it have been more helpful to their credibilty to simply admit that certain evidence does not match their interpretation and the possiblility that they made a mistake, rather than claiming liable and accusing people that questioned their data with acting like domestic terrorists? What does such strange behavior when faced with contrary opinions and evidenced-based arguments say about these people to begin with?
@wearesebastian
@wearesebastian 11 күн бұрын
@ like I said. I found him to be biased and not acting in good faith. So his opinion is worthless. I am a scientist myself, I am keen to have many points of view on a topic, but if they are corrupted it’s important to eliminate that from your data set.
@darklight2.1
@darklight2.1 11 күн бұрын
@wearesebastian So, again, have you watched Mick West's response to this video? Have you gone through any of the evaluations on his online forum where the errors that are claimed to have been found in the Tedesco brother's claims have been thoroughly assessed? If so, what leads you to believe that they are "corrupted" by bias? I don't think that most scientists would find your attitude towards Mr. West's presentation to be in line with either critical thinking strategies or the scientific method of study. We don't dismiss data off hand simply because we have our own subjective opinion about the sources motivations. What branch of the sciences encourages that?
@seanbarber8246
@seanbarber8246 12 күн бұрын
What a sad life and career - trying to ruin the progress of mankind 🤦‍♂️
@mana3735
@mana3735 12 күн бұрын
Say again?
@yesnomaby
@yesnomaby 13 күн бұрын
Looking ford to hear what egregious behaviour hes been exposed engaging in.
@TheGoodTroubleShow
@TheGoodTroubleShow 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the reply!
@UsernameVincent
@UsernameVincent 12 күн бұрын
@@TheGoodTroubleShow Looking forward to your thoughts on the claims made by the Tedescos 9:05, now that West has been confirmed as correct both on their location and the angle at which they were filming.
@yesnomaby
@yesnomaby 12 күн бұрын
@@UsernameVincent it has been confirmed mw has a history of sock puppet accounts to back up his half baked disinformation peddling
@yesnomaby
@yesnomaby 12 күн бұрын
@@UsernameVincent it has been confirmed mw has a history of sock puppet accounts to back up his half baked disinformation peddling
@Mtheory989
@Mtheory989 5 күн бұрын
I suspect there will be no retraction, no apology and zero humility. Mick was extremely patient while these guys engaged in ad hominem attacks and mudslinging. Journalism and science at its worst - if you can even call this that.
@geoffquartermainebastin9302
@geoffquartermainebastin9302 11 күн бұрын
These two are genuine tech nerds. Their own worst enemies in terms of presentation. But they've invested their time and money over years. If they are grifters, it's a pretty complicated scam. Meantime, as far as I know, Mick West has a BSc but mainly a career in video games and writing. He's not an engineer of any sort. His approach isn't scientific, in that he doesn't attempt to reproduce an experiment (impossible in this case) or properly investigate. He disparages any effort as a kneejerk response. In this case, since his business interest is in debunking, he can not be taken seriously. What is needed, is for the Tedesco brothers to have their work independently assessed by their peers.
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
He's released a reply video proving that he was right and these guys are lyi...mistaken. Shame on you.
@darklight2.1
@darklight2.1 11 күн бұрын
@geoffquartermainebastin9302 I've tried to read the only paper that I can find that the brothers have submitted-it was to a pay-to-publish predatory journal and it was pretty much, well, amateurish might be the the kindest term? So, I agree, they may very well be their own worst enemies in terms of presentation. With that said, judging someones ideas based on their background in a field like UAP's rather than the content of their arguments is a non-starter. And claiming that this is a business interest for Mick seems a bit off track-how do you think that he makes substantial money from these videos? I am pretty familiar with this media platforms compensation structure and can say with confidance that he isn't getting wealthy form his YTube channel. Perhaps you should look into his history and his own reasoning for why he feels he is qualified for this type of work-he made a video addressing just that. On the other hand, if passing judgement in this case based on financial interests was a valid arguement, couldn't we turn it around and say that since the brothers business interest is filming UAP's, they cannot be taken seriously?
@ichi1082
@ichi1082 11 күн бұрын
>What is needed, is for the Tedesco brothers to have their work independently assessed by their peers. You mean people like Mick West who scientifically point out their mistakes?
@RATLEEA10
@RATLEEA10 10 күн бұрын
I am using this podcast as your next podcast on the content of News Nations exclusive is not up yet in the UK, so I can't comment via that one, So here is my comment intended for that one, ""Sorry to say, I TOLD YOU SO!, This shows a concerted effort by the gatekeepers that infiltrate the media to push whatever narrative needed at any time to keep this from being recognised as a reality by the VAST MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC and in this case the PSI Woo aspect, "I wondered how this was allowed to be aired, I now know" (it is Woo and we don't understand it and we need more data......) B.S., go ask Mario Woods, it is as real as it is PSI Woo, deal and acknowledge the nuts and bolts craft we have been secretly reversed engineering and we can pick away at the PSI Woo with the help of mainstream Science, fail in this endeavour and we are back to the starting point.... we need more data = B.S. the people some more. I have stated OVER and over again that PSI Woo is part of the "We don't know what this is". For those that just are not getting this and listening, I will say AGAIN, Nuts and Bolts first and then we can pick away at the PSI Woo with the help of Main Stream Science. Sorry to say, people, Ross has just exposed himself, It would seem to me at this point, that it is not only Lue`s, Mellon`s and Nell`s etc modus operandi who should not be trusted, but also N.N. and Ross, I have had this view for a couple of years now that all points to a narrative build of PSI and we don't know what this is its all very Woo, and it is as time goes on being made very clear to me (this has just underlined it) they are and will continue to use PSI / Woo as the fall back "we just don't know" its part of a delay and distraction tactic from the reality of what all the people above know, that is the true reality of what we do know and the level it is being used and dealt with inside agencies who control (yes control) these people actors named above"".
@Ifishmo
@Ifishmo 12 күн бұрын
lesson learned: Never poke the bear (Mick West) if you don't have a backup plan.
@Robinhood1966
@Robinhood1966 12 күн бұрын
@@Ifishmo The only person who might tremble when Mick throws a temper tantrum is himself. A legend in his own mind.
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
@@Robinhood1966 He's completely destroyed these.
@Tomteeejay
@Tomteeejay 12 күн бұрын
Mick West is perfectly correct in regards to the direction in the video. You can even match up the Tedesco Brothers video to the exact bench and even the tree. They were obviously NOT filming in the direction that they claimed to be. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4CzhqlnbrOqq9k
@bigfatbruce
@bigfatbruce 12 күн бұрын
I'm sure all the UFO believers who said Mick was wrong and calling him names will immediately apologize and admit they were the ones who were wrong. 🙂
@Womble1252
@Womble1252 12 күн бұрын
Humility is missing from this topic hey!
@Tomteeejay
@Tomteeejay 11 күн бұрын
@@bigfatbruce It is a mindset. Somepeople will simple handwave away such simple things as geo location and match up the exact filming direction. It is a mindset!
@Tomteeejay
@Tomteeejay 11 күн бұрын
@@Womble1252 If only the brothers would show some of that humlity instead of just doubling down and going for hits and clicks and sensationalism.
@Womble1252
@Womble1252 11 күн бұрын
​@@Tomteeejayfor sure..
@maureenCastle260
@maureenCastle260 12 күн бұрын
Excellent show, Matt! Really appreciate the work done by the Tedesco brothers who come across as very professional and believable….Mick West and entourage seem absolutely insincere with a paid agenda.
@Tomteeejay
@Tomteeejay 12 күн бұрын
So, how did the Tedesco brothers get their filming direction so badly wrong? Mick West is perfectly correct in regards to the filming direction in the video. You can even match up the Tedesco Brothers video to the exact bench and even the tree. They were obviously NOT filming in the direction that they claimed to be. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4CzhqlnbrOqq9k
@sambal777
@sambal777 12 күн бұрын
@@Tomteeejay dont look at actual evidence!! Look at how believable they come across, thats all you need to know. Google earth is totally paid off to show the exact tree from the video is concurrent with Mick's claims dont you see!
@AIMEE911
@AIMEE911 11 күн бұрын
Listening in from vancouver canada ❤
@goinsgroove
@goinsgroove 12 күн бұрын
Can we collectively decide to not give a crap about this West guy. I only ever hear his name on these types of programs. Why do we care what he says? Let's just ignore him and move forward with disclosure.
@thelastwordonearth
@thelastwordonearth 12 күн бұрын
Problem is, he's the "go-to-expert" for mainstream media when they feel like they need to do a story about UFOs, accompanied by the X-files music and concluding with "the truth is out there".
@sambal777
@sambal777 11 күн бұрын
Sure you can. Just like a child pluggin its ears yelling lalala because they dont want to hear whats said. Or you could listen to both sides like an adult and actually use critical thinking skills to form a fully informed honest opinion, though i wont keep my hopes up.
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos
@ColonnelloAkrelhyos 9 күн бұрын
@goinsgroove 👏🙌
@TFSimple
@TFSimple 12 күн бұрын
If only the host did his own research and actually read the Metabunk thread himself, we wouldn't need to have this discussion, because the evidence is as clear as day. On the other hand, grifters have make money too. Perhaps the host and the brothers have a humiliation fetish.
@Womble1252
@Womble1252 12 күн бұрын
Well put 😂
@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996
@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996 11 күн бұрын
The Metabunk thread absolutely destroys just about everything these two guys said, so it comes as no surprise they are completely misrepresenting what was said there. Matt Ford, however, doesn't care, because he knows his viewers will lap it up.
@postsurrealfish
@postsurrealfish 12 күн бұрын
Yet another great show by Matt, as we move ever closer towards full disclosure ¦:¬)
@docgreybeard7057
@docgreybeard7057 12 күн бұрын
Mic West and his cadre of key board warriors are just the latest iteration of long-standing debunking program. Supported by the IC community. This approach was outlined in official government policy proposed by the Robertson panel. This supposed rebuttal to Tedesco's field research is beyond ridiculous. I appluad Matt's willingness to call this out, I'm just unsure if it has much of any effect. Since the world seems so polarized, Matt's audience already knows Mic, and his group isn't doing any true analysis. Likewise, those who consider him to be a legitimate source of information won't see this. I feel like with the tidal wave of whistle blowers and legitimate pictures and videos getting posted daily, Mic's group will become so irrelevant we as a community won't have to lift a finger. Michio Kaku said it several years back, and the owness is now on the skeptics since the release of those famous videos. It's only got more voluminous since. Keep it up Matt your content is awesome to share with family and friends! Best wishes, Doc
@goinsgroove
@goinsgroove 12 күн бұрын
Matt. I love what these guys are doing and i wish you would just spend time on them. No one here cares about West. I would venture to say none of your viewers follow him or give a rats A.. what he has to say. Stay focused Matt.
@matthiasgrunwald895
@matthiasgrunwald895 10 күн бұрын
Mick West is right! All the time actually.
@romper4444
@romper4444 Күн бұрын
Ya and O.J was proven innocent by a jury of his peers.... so he's innocent right?
@jakubwydraa
@jakubwydraa 6 күн бұрын
Matt i like you and your work but you and your audiance behave more and more lika a cult. Mick West is super polite guy and there is no reason to presents so snarky, rude attitude towards him. I suspected more civility and i'm disappointed. Only you and those tedesco brothers lose credibility by such behaviour
@karlharrelson1091
@karlharrelson1091 12 күн бұрын
Although I totally agree that Mick West is simply pandering to the negative Nancys, I do have my doubts about the Tedesco Bros. saying that a thermal camera would pick up your reflection on glass as a heat source. That's like saying a candle image in a mirror will burn you, isn't it?
@joejo6273
@joejo6273 12 күн бұрын
Mick West is very good at one thing........blowing his own trumpet !
@charliewalker9443
@charliewalker9443 12 күн бұрын
….and proving that he is correct and these two were incorrect.
@rondcus
@rondcus 12 күн бұрын
I guess the video game boy is a radar expert too! Lmao
@dsrock7124
@dsrock7124 11 күн бұрын
HI ! great and interesting episode but...(I specify that it only happens on your channel) why can't I see the translated subtitles of your interlocutors' answers? It almost seems like it was done on purpose, (obviously not by you...) Does this happen to anyone else? I would be curious to know because I think those who spread misinformation and various cover-ups could use this method, don't you think? anyway greetings and congratulations from my little Italy, bye!! keep going ;-)
@paranormalteam1
@paranormalteam1 7 күн бұрын
Where I can find their page
@danlarev6021
@danlarev6021 Күн бұрын
Mick West should be shunned …
@ianhearnden4471
@ianhearnden4471 12 күн бұрын
Fkn adverts. Great show ❤
@DJPeeTee48
@DJPeeTee48 11 күн бұрын
Tedesco brothers, you absolutely rock, guy's. I have followed you via Ross Coulthard. Total respect to you and your credentials. ❤👊 Thank you Bless you, and more power to you! Paul. UK.
@adamwiseman5831
@adamwiseman5831 12 күн бұрын
If Nick's not getting paid to do this. I actually truly feel sorry for him. At first they wouldn't be able to keep a secret like this someone in the government would come out. 10 years later multiple people in the government come out now he moves the goal post back to. well now it doesn't count cuz they just want to believe. 😅
@zeekfromthecreek
@zeekfromthecreek 10 күн бұрын
It's a little scary that we can't even agree on which direction a video taken recently in Long Island, New York was facing. What do we have to do to pin it down? Do we need to send out a blue-ribbon committee with representatives of both sides? It's not like we're trying to recreate something that happened in the 1960s or ancient Egypt. It shouldn't be that hard. What would it take to convince you-regardless of which "side" you're on-that your side is wrong and the other side is right? Let's hear it from the audience.
@So1othurn
@So1othurn 9 күн бұрын
Mick West is a sociopath?
@ilostabuttonhole
@ilostabuttonhole 11 күн бұрын
Props to you Matt on pushing the envelope and getting the word out! I love the fact that Mick West is completely outgunned by two guys who actually know what a plane looks like on radar because they are actual radar techs and can call BS. Respect to the Tedesco Brothers and I hope they have a chat with the wider media, Avi Loeb and other people who are actually trying to challenge the narrative of nothing to see here. I hope people donate to their cause for more equipment and more transparency.
@Captain-Cardboard
@Captain-Cardboard 11 күн бұрын
If they bought a working compass that might be a start.
@mana3735
@mana3735 11 күн бұрын
You do know Mick has replied to this video and proved he was right? The brothers gave the wrong coordinates. Either by mistake or...
@Blackcat-vg5lq
@Blackcat-vg5lq 12 күн бұрын
Mick West doesn't believe in anything.
@gpcovenant
@gpcovenant 12 күн бұрын
No, it’s worse, he is ideologue in drag. No one could spend this amount of time doing this unless he was being very well paid or is very mentally ill.
@Blackcat-vg5lq
@Blackcat-vg5lq 12 күн бұрын
​@@gpcovenant I vote very well paid.
@Mudguts1973
@Mudguts1973 12 күн бұрын
But that's the point, if you "believe" then straight away you're biased towards whatever the subject is!
@shogga690
@shogga690 12 күн бұрын
Oh dear. Mick West has dropped a video. I think the brothers have unfortunately made an error regarding the direction. But not to worry the overall phenomenon is still real.
@bigfatbruce
@bigfatbruce 12 күн бұрын
Error? Sure let's call it an error and not deliberately misleading.
@sambal777
@sambal777 12 күн бұрын
With the correct viewing angle the "phenomenon" aligns perfectly with publicly available flight data showing there was a plane in that location but sure...
@Robinhood1966
@Robinhood1966 12 күн бұрын
@@shogga690 Mick's opinion isn't fact outside of Metabunk and Wikipedia.
@MacarthurLouissaint-rz7tl
@MacarthurLouissaint-rz7tl 12 күн бұрын
Hello buddy
@pascal6934
@pascal6934 7 күн бұрын
Matt Ford, you have a great show with great guests, but could you please refrain from making all these derogatory comments ("he looks like a asshole", "he's never had a girlfriend"...). Such comments make YOU look bad, and they tarnish the whole disclosure movement by extension. That being said, please keep up the good work!
@TerribleLizard
@TerribleLizard 12 күн бұрын
Mick West is an interesting guy. In his interview with Alex Dietrich, she comes off as the skeptic, and he seems more open to the idea of a “flying saucer.” I think if Mick ever analyzed a clear, legitimate “flying saucer” video, he’d be honest and admit it’s anomalous, though it might take him a minute to process. The problem is, most publicly available “flying saucer” videos are low quality. That makes them ambiguous, and even if they’re real, a skeptic wouldn’t be convinced.
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 12 күн бұрын
No one cares what a plant thinks.
@dereksookdeo1720
@dereksookdeo1720 12 күн бұрын
Exactly, he would run down the list for any clear footage before admitting its real. AI, CGI, practical effects, etc.
@CancunMimosa
@CancunMimosa 12 күн бұрын
Mick only cares about being right; he’s not a scientist
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime 12 күн бұрын
Nah, I think you’re giving him too much credit. I think Mick is in denial about what exists beyond what we know. He therefore cannot open his mind to it. He’s horrified of the other; so he must defend reality for his sanity.
@TerribleLizard
@TerribleLizard 12 күн бұрын
@ Yeah, I’m just taking a guess, giving him the benefit of the doubt. After looking at everything, I think NHI is real. I’m a wildlife biologist, and it lines up when you think about biodiversity, food chains, all that. You can never really know what someone else feels or thinks, though. I’ve got a friend who’s a doctor, and he gets mad at the idea of Bigfoot or NHI. Might be some kind of indoctrination-it actually feels a lot like 1984. A lot of scientists make the mistake of thinking something must not be true just because there’s no evidence, but it’s a fundamental truth that something could still be real even if we don’t have the evidence for it. I think the issue with NHI is that normal humans don’t have the right tools or the capability to gather the evidence we’d need.
@jamesmatheson150
@jamesmatheson150 12 күн бұрын
There should be a show called ‘Refuted’ where professional logicians, examine debunker arguments and identify biases and fallacies, and call them out on it in a humorous way
@mana3735
@mana3735 12 күн бұрын
You do know mick has made a follow-up video proving he was right and these were lyi...er..mistaken?
@yesnomaby
@yesnomaby 12 күн бұрын
@@mana3735 who pays you
@sambal777
@sambal777 12 күн бұрын
@@yesnomabyI would if it could actually convice people they are deluded but you prove that would be wasted money.
@yesnomaby
@yesnomaby 12 күн бұрын
@@sambal777 that makes no sense.
@mana3735
@mana3735 12 күн бұрын
@@yesnomaby Is that all you have?
@BG-1970
@BG-1970 12 күн бұрын
Love it when Mick West gets dunked on! He has his mind made up before he views it!
@charliewalker9443
@charliewalker9443 12 күн бұрын
Except Mick was 100% correct and demonstrably so. You can go do the research. These two got all their info wrong and they recorded a plane
@sambal777
@sambal777 12 күн бұрын
Go watch Mick's latest video it only takes 7 min and you will see how the only ones getting dunked on are these clowns.
@yesnomaby
@yesnomaby 12 күн бұрын
@@charliewalker9443No he's trying to cast doubt. Its what people with a borderline personality disorder do when they are bailed up. Hard to watch some one with server childhood t engaging in an involuntary coping mechanism in such a pathological manner publicly.
@Robinhood1966
@Robinhood1966 12 күн бұрын
@sambal777 Spoken like yet another CSI acolyte proselytizing their nihilist religion.
@charliewalker9443
@charliewalker9443 11 күн бұрын
@@Robinhood1966 Dude, we are just asking to actually see the evidence for yourself instead of taking two mens words for it. That is an actual religious component.
@arthurwigglesby8590
@arthurwigglesby8590 8 күн бұрын
Good lord, Mick West and his acolytes are transparently bad-faith. I hope that we don't forget about them once the truth of the UAP/NHI phenomenon is dragged into daylight.
@darklight2.1
@darklight2.1 8 күн бұрын
Did you watch his video response? What did he actually get wrong? I think it's pretty clear that the brothers were simply not ponting their equipment the direction that they thought they were, and every time Mick hands them a shovel they dig the hole a little deeper. Being able to admit mistakes is a sign of acting in good faith, right?
@JeePeeEs
@JeePeeEs 12 күн бұрын
Mick West's extreme fear of aliens is what drives his debunking. It seems like a common reaction from some folks when their paradigm is threatened, or they find out they are powerless against certain forces.
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime 12 күн бұрын
I’ve had that same hypothesis about Mick West myself because his zeal seams too bias to be genuine.
@sfbearcat8637
@sfbearcat8637 12 күн бұрын
his zeal is paid shill by some group or agency
@gesundheit602
@gesundheit602 12 күн бұрын
@@Womble1252 When every post and article you make is biased towards one conclusion, then its not simply "having a crack at it."
@Womble1252
@Womble1252 11 күн бұрын
​@@gesundheit602someone's got to do it & he has far more skills than me !
@paulshy5218
@paulshy5218 12 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Auxik
@Auxik 11 күн бұрын
Some people just can't accept the possibility of something that goes against their beliefs and they will bend things until they fit their narrative so their world view isn't shattered. There's no convincing them or even convincing them to even accept the possibility.
@Captain-Cardboard
@Captain-Cardboard 11 күн бұрын
Well, they're basically harmless. If they want to believe space aliens are visiting the Earth who are we to deny them?
@OldBenOne
@OldBenOne 12 күн бұрын
Tedescos are 'shining examples' of BS artists who can't tell which direction they are looking.
@justanothernobody7142
@justanothernobody7142 12 күн бұрын
What a failed hit peice this was, it just made everyone involved look like idiots, especially the host.
@Cam.61803
@Cam.61803 12 күн бұрын
Holy cow.. John, Gerry, Matt Ford.. What absolute disingenuous morons you are. Time to do some self reflection boys.
@alpineuniverse
@alpineuniverse 11 күн бұрын
Indeed
@lukesters7234
@lukesters7234 11 күн бұрын
@@justanothernobody7142 I know. These two just come off as dummies and Ford as an arrogant arsehole relying on name calling to try and belittle. That’s the only real truth in the whole embarrassing video
@lukesters7234
@lukesters7234 11 күн бұрын
@@alpineuniverse talk about making fools of themselves. Just take the loss and move on. Doubling down just removes what tiny shred of credibility they had
@alpineuniverse
@alpineuniverse 11 күн бұрын
@@lukesters7234 💯
@colleenross8486
@colleenross8486 12 күн бұрын
Just made it in time
@Mr.N0.0ne
@Mr.N0.0ne 10 күн бұрын
This video is an embarrassing example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. The brothers made a mistake in their observation and recording, made a mistake with where they were oriented at the time, and in their arrogance they are now calling the people who corrected them names. Also, to the host of this channel: please actually do some research before backing up misinformation like this. They are mistaken and you are propping up their mistakes as if they were correct (they aren't). To all the commenters agreeing with the brothers and calling Mick names: you are wrong. Smarten up, figure out why you are wrong and apologise to those you are insulting for being correct.
@FancyCraffs
@FancyCraffs 10 күн бұрын
@@Mr.N0.0ne chill bud. If you stop measuring your value by how much smarter you think you are than other people, you’ll be much happier.
@romper4444
@romper4444 Күн бұрын
​@@FancyCraffs👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@romper4444
@romper4444 Күн бұрын
Makes me laugh people that think Mick is so high and mighty correct all the time. He could have a full blown classic UFO land in his backyard with two tall greys walk out and he'd find a way to explain it away. Starting with your conclusion and then setting out to prove that conclusion is not science or debunking. It's just a shame
@giantarcsfora9279
@giantarcsfora9279 12 күн бұрын
Most debunkers are nasty trolls
@46b35
@46b35 11 күн бұрын
Mick is right in one aspect, no one in the area of responsibility is going to do anything until the problem is unavoidable. Until then all the incentive is in avoidance, monetary and time.
@foxuploader
@foxuploader 12 күн бұрын
Shots fired 😂
@garymarbella9738
@garymarbella9738 12 күн бұрын
Mick is a paid off debunker
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