The Tennis Forehand Grip YOU Should Be Using! | Tennis Grip Lesson

[@thesymphonyset]

You made everything make sense. I have had so many different lessons and this is the first time I understand grips, their uses, and how to use an opponents grip against them. Genius video. So much context thats applicable.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you so much! Be sure to check out all the content here on the channel! Kindly, John

[@dansmith7763]

Really good advice. I did exactly what you recommended, John -- I started with Eastern and about 2.5 years later moved to semi-western. I play against a lot of guys around the 5.0 level and they hit a lot of heavy balls... I find the semi-western to be the most versatile. At first it felt weird, but now the Eastern grip feels weird.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Dan, Thanks for sharing your experience and contributing to the video! Stay tuned for more from PPT! Best, John

[@lirenchan]

👍👍👍

[@briankim572]

Exactly, I didn't even think I could change my grip from E to SW. Now I have no idea of making top spin with E grip. 😮

[@alonsofrancescutti4956]

​@@briankim572 I think we all intuitively start with the Eastern

[@CJZM7777]

The channel has some of the most practical advice on KZbin. Most KZbin coaches are reasonably good but this channel is among the better ones. Unfortunately there are a couple of not so good instruction channels out there but watch this channel for solid fundamentally sound advice. I started with an E grip and shifted it downward toward a SW after a few years. I've been playing 45+ years now so the change was decades ago. One thing not mentioned in this video is some players use a hybrid of E and SW which is basically an E grip shifted down toward SW but not quite a full SW grip. I think my grip is closest to an E/SW hybrid and has been for decades. Federer used this grip but I started using back in the 1980s. I find if I go too far into SW territory, my shots get more spin but lose a touch of power. I also find low mid court balls more difficult with a full SW grip. The E/SW hybrid works for me.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Joe, Thanks so much for your feedback and contribution to the video. I too use a "hybrid E/SW" grip, and it gives me the versatility to play a wide range of topspin at any contact height, from anywhere in the court. Thanks for the nice compliments on the channel as well! Kindly, John

[@danieli.9252]

I’m also a hybrid. I had a lesson today and the instructor was trying to get me to fully SW but it just felt so weird. I might stick with my old version, even though it leads to a flatter ball.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@danieli.9252 Hi Daniel, Play with the hybrid if that is comfortable for you...it's well within the range of being correct. Best, John

[@danieli.9252]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Thanks for the note. I feel like changing the grip, even just a little, would require a change in my swing path, and maybe I’m too old for that.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@danieli.9252 I get it! Best, John

[@lesleyhill8581]

Excellent description, has really helped me. I have returned to tennis after a ten year gap and just couldn’t get my forehand back. Somehow I restarted playing with an eastern grip again, yet I always used to play with a Semi western. So the video was a clear, informative reminder and I have adjusted to a SW. thanks!!

[@batmanforawhile]

Wow this was so helpful, it makes sense that I naturally gravitated to the eastern grip and have slowly started experimenting with the semi western. Great video.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you for the great feedback! Best, John

[@jsrss]

Hi John, started tennis back in 1968 at the age of 14 and naturally had a semi-western forehand grip. In those days most players had an eastern grip and some continental. I had excellent topspin with my Dunlop Maxply but had issues with power and low balls. At the start of the following year i spent 2 days and 8 hours a day with the eastern grip hitting against a backboard and until today that was my grip. I'm a bit of a tennis fanatic and watch YoutTube tennis videos just about every day. I saw this video yesterday and decided why not give the semi-western grip a try again. While at 67 my body is not as supple (a true understatement :(), my technique has definitely improved over the years. My 48 year old tennis buddy decided to give the semi-western a try as well (but thinking pessimistically that he coudn't do it). Unbelievably, it took zero time to make the switch. You end up striking the ball a bit more out in front which ends up with the same or more power and definitely more spin. My tennis buddy was like a kid in a candy store. He's 6'2" and wondered why he couldn't hit with as much pace as guys 4" shorter. In literally no time he was striking the ball with tremendous pace and spin. High balls dipping down just before the line, lower screamers. We were having super long rallies. We've never looked more like pro players :). It was like Dr Seuss's Green Eggs and Ham story. I "do like" Green Eggs and Ham. I "do like" the semi-western grip. Timing is everything. We were both ready for the switch. Thanks for the video with this advice. Best Regards, Jack

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Jack, Thanks for the great story! It sounds like you and your buddy had an amazing experience...so cool! Stay tuned for more content here at PPT! Kindly, John

[@jsrss]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Yes, transformational! Now if I could just have a new set of knees (new back wouldn’t be bad either), LOL. Thanks again John. Watch a lot of your serve videos. Something I decided to work on during the pandemic. Stay healthy. Regards, Jack

[@axisofpeter]

That is a great story!

[@teriny6483]

Thank you. Your explanation is one of the greatest of the facts that needed to be considered. It gave me a clear understanding of stroke grip.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

I am pleased to know the lesson was helpful to you! Be sure to review all the content here on the channel. Kindly, John

[@chrisdesilva4665]

I have one grip for both forehand and backhand and it's the Continental as I'm a serve and volley player. I usually don't have time to switch grips nor do I want to when I'm serving but if I'm receiving I can be tempted to hit a semi western if I see the right ball, got to keep my opponent guessing 😉.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Chris, Love the "Old School" style. Thanks for sharing! Best, John

[@pray1vn]

Thank you. I am using the western grip since the very first time I played tennis. Now, I stuck in how to increase my forehand top spin. I will try to switch to semi western grip and start training today.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks Tyro. Please keep me updated on your progress. Best, John

[@lordbyron3603]

I use the Continental, Eastern and semi-western grips! I love hitting flat and low penetrating spinning balls; especially on passing shots and when my opponent is on the other side of the court. For approach shots , I use a semi-western so I can clear the net !

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

You are quite versatile! Thanks for sharing! Best, John

[@kae_iron]

Best explanation I’ve seen on this. Thank you for taking the time to explain each grip!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you! I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel! Best, John

[@autumnrayne100]

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[@autumnrayne100]

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[@alfredeneuman6966]

Your description of hand grip helped me greatly. Many videos are confusing about how to hold the racket.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Alfred, Thanks for the feedback. I am glad to know the lesson was helpful to you! Kindly, John

[@shom4458]

When I got to my mid-40s Couldn't hit the ball well with a Western. As kid, I loved that grip and I was a huge Andre Agassi fan. Now, injuries and inconsistency.... Great advice in this video.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for your comments and contribution to the video. You provided a great testimony as to why the Western Grip is a poor choice, particularly for adults! Thanks, John

[@deanfisher733]

Nice I notice Federer adjusts more to the western when he has to hit ball close to his feet saving footwork he gets alot of power and last second direction change with the amount of wrist and elbow whip he uses minimal effort

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Dean, Thanks for your comments and contribution to the video. While I have studied every shot and angle of Federer's forehand, I don't entirely agree with your viewpoint. The lower the ball, the more limiting is the western grip. Best, John

[@lisaphillips5495]

Thank you for this great video! You really show the different gross well! I have played with the continental grip and now understand how it has been holding me back. Going to work on trying the eastern and semiwestern grips

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks Lisa for your feedback and kind words. Please keep me updated on your progress. Best, John

[@maikelalefceolin5595]

I started with Eastern grip, and certain day my coach came to me and said: ok, now it's time to change to and advance grip, western grip. Now I'm in trouble because I am always late when hitting the ball. This video makes me decides to try to get back to eastern grip. Even because it's easier to change to my two handed backhand.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for your comment. The western grip is not "advanced" any more than Eastern. Look at all the great forehands using the Eastern grip: Federer, Del Potro, Tsitsipas, just to name a few. The Western grip offers less versatility and generally more problems than Eastern or Semi-western. My suggestion is to keep your strokes clean and simple...how many seniors do you see with a Western grip? If you plan to play into your senior years, the Western grip is a bad idea. If the Eastern is natural for you, stick with it! Best, John

[@swalterstennis]

Ok, good video. However, you left out a few key concepts. 1. The player’s forehand grips depends on their height and what surface is their main surface. A 6-foot-4 man who plays indoors a lot or on fast courts should be in an Eastern forehand grip, which has a lower stroke zone for topspin Forehands than the semi-western. And, when you’re 6-foot-4 , there’s many lower balls that wouldn’t be easy with a semi-Western grip. . On the other hand, if a player is a 5-foot-1 woman, or anyone who is not very tall and plays on slow high bouncing courts, like clay or Har-Tru, a Western grip could be best. Maybe not extreme Western but a little past semi-Western. Also no mention was made of the stances with the different grips. Continental grip hits the ball late and back in the stance and matches with a low strike some and a closed stance. Eastern grip strike zone is a little higher, around thigh to waste left, and matches well with a square stance and a bit semi-open. Semi-Western grip has a slightly higher strike zone, like waste level or a little higher than waste level and matches well with semi-open stance and a little open stance. And Western grip has the highest strike zone and matches well with an open stance. Almost all Western grip forehand players use mossly an open stance. They have to, since that stance allows the player to each way up to chest level, where the strike zone is. Every grip has a place where the strike zone is vertical. Continental hits lowest and latest. Western hits highest and earlier and out in front which matches an open stance. Although players need to be able to do all the stances, for the most part, the grip and stance should match the surface and the type of the player. What do you think?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Steve, I think your points are solid and well taken. Please note the video was not meant to be all encompassing. Of course there are always variables, and yours are very valid. Thank you for your comments and contribution to the video. Best regards, John

[@swalterstennis]

Right. Thanks. Good video. I’m subscribed. I’m always trying to get good pros perspective to validate my own beliefs. Thanks!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@swalterstennis Great! And even after 40 + years of playing and coaching, I am always seeking new information to improve my perspective as well. Appreciate your interest and input! Thank you, John

[@bournejason66]

But we don’t see pros change grips with surface right? Djokovic and Nadal don’t change to an eastern grip in Wimbledon and Federer doesn’t change to a western grip on clay. For recreational players it’s even less likely to master all types of grips. And changing the grips based on the height of balls also seems unpractical, unless the ball is really slow. More practical approach, IMHO, is to adjust the footwork so you get to the contact point you like.

[@swalterstennis]

Not saying that a player should change grips based on surface. I’m just explaining what grips work well for different players. Yes, Federer keeps his grip no matter what surface he’s playing on. Same with an player. Clay courters and shorter players use more of a Western or semi-western grip. Taller players and players who play on a fast or low bouncing surface gravitate to an Eastern or Continental grip.

[@ShaunSweeney71]

I use an semi western grip on my forehand and an eastern grip on my serve. I try to use my hips on all my shots. I did learn how to play on clay courts and the ball comes off the court in weird situations. Great job on the video my friend.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for the feedback. Keep working towards a continental grip on the serve! Best, John

[@ShaunSweeney71]

@@PerformancePlusTennis thank you for the advice, I have been working on continental grip on the serve and it’s just a little weird right now, but after about 10 baskets of serving that way I am thinking it will come more naturally. Thanks again my friend and great job on your video.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@ShaunSweeney71 Be careful with hitting too many serves. Better to blend in rehearsals featuring the drills I present in the video "Every Serve Needs this". Quality of quantity!

[@ShaunSweeney71]

@@PerformancePlusTennis good advice my wife said the same thing, because it’s hot down here in Florida my friend. It’s probably over an hundred degrees on those courts. I try to train in the heat because what if I had to play a match in the heat and I wouldn’t be prepared for that type of heat. I do practice slow on toss and Eastern grip on serve you mentioned my friend. I appreciate your good advice and great work on your videos.

[@amolapr]

thanks for explaining it really well, im on my nth vid now about grips and this was definitely one of the better ones that explained the pros and cons well along with the reasoning behind the grips(history)

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for much for the feedback, Roly! Glad the video was valuable to you! Please subscribe and stay tuned! Kindly, John

[@spizzz2]

great video. i learned with the eastern grip but naturally gravitated towards the semi western. love the video, very informative and easy to understand!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you so much for the great feedback! Subscribe and stay tuned for more! Best, John

[@s4127419]

Used to be a continental grip user, but later on, i changed to semi-western , so versatile ..

[@CTFlink]

thank you! What a relieve to finally understand what's going on with my play. I come from table tennis where we use something similar to the continental grip and I've experienced exactly what you describe is the problem with it. So I'm looking forward to follow your excellent coaching tips.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Christian, Great to know my lesson was helpful to you! Keep me posted on your progress. Thanks, John

[@seal-nowweretalking6753]

Wow, you’re great Sir!! Thank you for making this video that explains in a fully comprehensive and detailed yet easy to understanding fashion. Also thank you for debunking this myth that a player who’s been playing for a long time cannot or should not change their grip. ✌🏾&💜

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you! Best, John

[@AlphaTennisinPittsburgh]

Get Ahead in Tennis with Killer Volley Techniques. Great Video! Thanks for sharing this one.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for the feedback! Best, John

[@cliveburks]

Thanks very clear and informative makes good sense I will work on mine as you suggest

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for the feedback. Keep me updated on your progress. Best, John

[@huinyavaina]

finally! very well explained, thank you!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

You are welcome! If you are changing grips, be sure to watch my latest video on how to make the transition from one grip to another. Best, John

[@David-lj2rt]

Best grip video ever!!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you, Pastor Dave! Glad the video was valuable for you! Thanks, John

[@David-lj2rt]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Thank you John, thank you! God bless! Dave

[@manuelmoraespinola5311]

Very good explanation, sir! A huge from Barcelona!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Manuel, Thanks for the feedback, and happy to know the video was helpful to you! Kindly, John

[@beaglesrfun5896]

I started with the wooden racquets back in HS (lol!), so I'm so used to the Eastern forehand grip.

[@jacnella2419]

It would have been helpful if you showed/marked which bevel to place the index knuckle for clarity.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks Jac for your feedback...much appreciated! Best, John

[@BT-1989]

Nicely explained Thank you

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you!

[@yakzivz1104]

FH: use any grip except continental. I have a full western and I love it!!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for sharing. I am glad you love the full western. If we ever play, I will be knifing my nasty, low skipping slice to your forehand! Cheers, John

[@ml_gamer8344]

Continental is fine if you play on faster indoor hardcourts

[@plantpower3048]

love is not a an argument kiddo

[@yakzivz1104]

@@plantpower3048 I am fully aware of that; however, it is not against the law for me to use a grip that works for me. Also there are quite a few professional players who use western forehand grips. Henin was known to use a western backhand grip.

[@Kartik11001]

Awesome explanation! Thank you!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you, Karthik! Glad the lesson was valuable for you! Best, John

[@sunsioux444]

I am very new to tennis and have right wrist pain, so I’m trying to find the forehand grip that works best for me. One teacher put me in a semi Western right away but I’m hitting a lot of balls into the net. I think I will take your advice , work with eastern for a while and build from there!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi and thanks for your feedback. I think it is important to learn to hit through ball...get the solid feeling of the ball sinking into the strings, and then perhaps the semi-western will be ideal for you. Please keep me updated on your progress. Thanks, John

[@sunsioux444]

@@PerformancePlusTennis I started with Pickleball (playing for three years ) BUT I always wanted to learn tennis so I’m fulfilling my dream. when I hit a pickleball I look at the back of the ball and I try to follow through. that approach is also working with tennis especially when I keep my eye on the ball 😛 I really appreciate your feedback and support. most people go from tennis to Pickleball but I’m not like everybody, I’m doing the opposite! and I am 69 years old and having a blast learning tennis. 😄

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@sunsioux444 Thanks for sharing your experience and enthusiasm! Good luck with your tennis, and keep me updated on your progress! Kindly, John

[@at1838]

great summary and very sound advice!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you so much! Best, John

[@BIGLOVE4TRUTH]

I have that Wilson Burn V 4. I like it. I also have V 5.

[@bondjapan]

I finally get it.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Alright! Keep me updated on your progress. Best, John

[@joeystraveling]

I played with continental 🤡 and always wondered why I shanked a lot of balls as I have started playing against 9-11 utr players. Now I am going to change to semi-western will see how that goes tonight

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Great...let me know how it goes! Best, John

[@lirenchan]

Great instructions. Thanks.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

You are welcome! Glad it was helpful to you! Best, John

[@maskeypravat]

That’s for sharing awesome tennis knowledge,

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you, Pravat! Kindly John

[@debrawatson18]

Excellent!!!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you, Debra! Kindly, John

[@carloslam2999]

nice advice. thank you. 👍

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks Carlos. Best, John

[@oneminuteguitarlessons6060]

Nice description of the grips. Very helpful

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you! Glad the video was helpful to,you. Best, John

[@rbutthamilton]

John, have you looked into the difference between the traditional eastern grip forehand (Sampras, Agassi) and the modern version (Federer, Dimitrov)? That analysis has always been in my head. The traditional way contacts the ball further back between continental and semi western with a simple swing up motion like in your video. The modern way contacts the ball way more in front and with a door knob-turning wrist motion. It's a more horizontal and angular swing. I''ve been practicing the modern way but am finding it to be a more complicated stroke than the semi west. Interested to hear your thought.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Yes, I have looked closely and in fact I have the topic on my list of videos to produce for the channel. In short, I think the modern technique is tough to master for most club level players. In fact, I really think Federer was more consistent and equally powerful with his more classic forehand in the early years of his pro career. Stay tuned for the video...probably in 2 weeks. Thanks, John

[@bournejason66]

Agassi is semi western, not eastern. Agassi’s swing is pretty much a modern forehand already. That US open final between Fed and Agassi is a classic. Both hit the ball so clean and…so loud.

[@marktace1]

Fed typically has a low racquet drop, although he varies it more than Nadal. That low racquet drop results in a steeper low to high swing path even with the extended elbow contact and more topspin than usual for an eastern grip. Nadal’s low racquet drop with a semi-western grip results in excessive topspin requiring him to swing very hard. Very few, if any other people could pull off that swing.

[@robmccance]

I've played around with the forehand grip over the year and let me tell ya, it's a hard one to change. I can change a golf grip in 5 mins and deal with the new ball flight but a tennis forehand grip - changing that is a real challenge.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

It's usually easy to go from an Eastern to Semi-western, but from Western to anything else is very difficult. Thanks for sharing your experience! Best, John

[@robmccance]

@@PerformancePlusTennis totaly agree.

[@Boostplumbing]

Do you have advise / drills for someone looking to transition from eastern to semi-western as quick as possible ? If I play matches each weekend when / how should I change because 1 week would not be enough to become comfortable with the new grip ? Also do you have an estimate of 'time on court' necessary for my new grip to feel comfortable ? Regards

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi, Thanks for your questions. The adjustment from an Eastern to Semi-western grip is perhaps the easiest of all. The amount of time is based on each individual. I would perform a lot of shadow swings with the SW grip during the week and gradually the SW grip will present in your match play. Also, just be aware: "feel" (don't think) what you are doing with the grip, particularly in the preparation phase. Good luck and keep me updated on your progress. Best, John

[@kumarsabaratnam4787]

Very helpful advice John. I hv been using Eastern for a long time & rarely get top spin effortlessly. So I tried the Semi Western but find it difficult to get the ball over the net & wonder whether I hv to do any adjustments in my swing path & contact. Would appreciate your input as I am so eager to get top spin. Thanks for your very useful tips.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Kumar, Thanks for your question. Typically when you adjust from Eastern to Semi-western the racquet face is naturally more closed as you swing into contact. Compensate for this by swinging more upward into contact. Also, if interested, I will take a look at forehand through my video analysis program. Simply contact me through the following link and I will reply with instructions: performanceplustennis.com/contact-us/. Best, John

[@robertonunez1085]

Thank you very much!!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Robert, Thank you! Kindly, John

[@RonnieColeman80]

Great video

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks! Best, John

[@alir3zar62]

Thanks that was useful

[@rachidbaaira9869]

great video tnx for sharing the informations.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you, Rachid! Best, John

[@hamzahroker]

Amazing video, thank you sir ❤

[@andrewp7490]

I have been using a western grip for a very long time and there is one extra advantage to it that John forgot to mention. . . . it will save you if you are playing against a deep hitting / hard hitting opponent. I have been on the defense against big hitters (I am generally a pusher) and I have noticed that the western "hit / stroke" will make the ball go in even if you are falling back or in a bad spot on the court. In an emergency (and against a hard hitter there will be lots of them, go western. . . it is a great defensive grip) :).

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks Andrew for your contribution to the video. Certainly the western grip makes it easy to play a high, loopy, spinning shot that is not only is great for defense, but can also put your opponent in a defensive position! Best, John

[@deanfisher733]

It's an ideal grip for returning big serves and big hitters as your using there power with your placement but it's best to have both east and west in your bag of tricks

[@fsmo]

Amazing instruction

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you so much! Kindly, John

[@jasonlie87]

Thank you very much for the video. I have a problem with my racket face during contact. I use a semi western grip, and during contact, I tend to have the racket face close. Which in turn, makes the ball not pass the nett. Is this because of my wrist position during contact? An any input on how to fix this problem? Thank you so much

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Jason, Thanks for your question and feedback. Your problem could be from a number of things, including the racket path to contact, racket face angle at contact, etc. I would need to see a video to give you specific instruction to resolve your problem. Let me know if you are interested in a video review. Thanks, John

[@andrewwalker6551]

John, me again with a comment and possible suggestion for video. I use a eastern forehand. I've been told that a two handed back hand is basically a forehand with the opposite hand. And indeed when I look at my right hand on my back hand (I'm lefthanded so you can reverse everything in your brain!) it is in an eastern forehand grip. So the question is: Is there an equivalent for semi-western grip for the backhand? Is it used, or do most players have their hand (right for me, left for you!) in an eastern grip? I've alway felt my two handed back hand was as good or likely better than my forehand (maybe because I have two hands for stability?). But just like my forehand, I often wish I had more topspin.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for your comments and great question! It’s very rare to have the non-dominant hand in a semi-western grip on a two hand backhand. It’s also less common to get more top spin on the back hand than a forehead. Stick with what is comfortable and natural and consistent! Best, John

[@Superdave333]

I thought the semi-western grip would be using the 3rd bevel on the racket and not the 4th. I believe the eastern FH is using the 2nd bevel, is that correct (for a RH player)? If the EFG has the palm on the 2nd bevel, and the SWG on the 4th bevel, then what do you consider the grip with the palm on the 3rd bevel? This is the part I don't completely understand, but this is certainly a great video!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Dave, Thanks for your question. The index finger knuckle on the bevel(s) is the common point reference point. Index finger on the top (bevel 1) is a strong continental or Eastern Backhand grip. Index finger on bevel 2 is a a neutral continental grip. Index finger on bevel 3 is an Eastern forehand grip. Index finger on bevel 4 is a semi-western. Index finger on bevel 5 is a Western Grip. I hope this clarifies for you. Best, John.

[@Superdave333]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Thanks for your reply John. i watched your video again and I now understand that it is the index finger knuckle you are referring to, where I was always told it was where the "v" between the thumb and index finger was on the racket. You are correct and your video explained it well. This was the best video I have ever seen that described each forehand grip, and the pros and cons of each. Thank you!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@Superdave333 Thanks Dave!

[@jamest5970]

i am, just a little confused on the continental grip. Is Richard gasquet's forehand not continental? if so, how does he do what he does with his forehand grip? thanks, great video!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi James, Thanks for your feedback and question.Richard Gasquet is unique, and only 1 of 3, maybe 4 ATP forehands that have played the ATP tour with a continental on the forehand: Edberg, McEnroe, Leander Paes come to mind. Paes was a doubles specialist. McEnroe and Edberg just wanted to get in and volley. Gasquet's FH is actually the most versatile of the continental grip forehands, as he can play offense and high contacts equally well, which is quite difficult to do. However, the Continental grip is the least versatile not ideal for the majority, regardless of level. Best, John

[@jamest5970]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Thanks john. Just for context, I am a 2nd year varsity tennis player in my D1 highschool with a 6,5 build, and extremely long arms, like danil medvedev, and I am trying to find what forehand grip works best for me, and most effortlessly with my hight as I have a great 1 handed backhand and serve, bust struggle to hit what should be my easiest shot.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@jamest5970 Hi James, Thanks for filling me in. I would be happy to work with you on your forehand, which is typically the easiest to learn but the hardest to master. The foundation of the forehand is often misunderstood. Do you want to send me a video of your forehand? If so, let me know and I will give you instructions on how to send and we can take it from there. Best, John

[@jamest5970]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Sure! I live on long island, and the weather is kind of crappy currently, so when the weather gets good I would be happy to send a video over, that's extremely kind of you to offer I appreciate it! I currently am undergoing training with the varsity tennis coach 1 on 1 however and I am slowly beginning to develop a powerful eastern grip, with great topspin(or at least I think its eastern) , but I cant hit the ball deep at all, something I didn't struggle with before, although there is still much to learn, and lots to practice . I apricate it john, your videos are becoming increasingly more helpful as i scroll through all of them, and I thank you for that.

[@jamest5970]

@@PerformancePlusTennis And I am also curious, how exactly does lead taping a tennis racket work? does it help provide depth on the ball at all or just raw power?

[@poeda6637]

Very good advice. Thanks very much. Maybe you could do a similar one on the one handed backhand?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you so much for the feedback and suggestion! I will make a backhand video featuring the same. Best, John

[@masyrafnukman3932]

Thank you very much

[@thelonelydekuscrub4817]

I have a western grip and feel like my forehand is my biggest weapon but I can see how it may not seem ideal

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Experiment and find out what works best for you! Best, John

[@paddlepower888]

Say-y-y-y, could you get in the time machine and teach me how to play when I was a teen in the 70's? My tennis instructor said to put the V between the thumb and index finger on bevel 1--between Eastern & Continental. I thought I knew how to play tennis. Most of my balls went into the net or over the baseline. I quit playing after Junior HS. I began tennis again in 2019. Big brother: "use the semi Western." I thought Oka-a-a-a-a-y-y-y-y and did it--before long I felt like I'd come home. Now I hit balls with good clearance over the net and most of them dip down into the court. Much more fun. A tragedy not to have had KZbin back then. I took lessons from mostly terrible tennis pros. It's "catch up time." I can't get teens nowadays to go to KZbin for tennis tips.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Jeff, I wish I could! I had the same experience...poor coaching! Very few had any idea what they were doing. Fortunately I had some great coaching when I came to CA in the late 70's...it saved me! Yes, KZbin is very helpful. The only issue is you get a lot of conflicting information, so you have to sift though it and avoid conflicting concepts. I look forward to seeing your video. Best, John

[@kissmyab]

Well said 👍

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you!

[@bobgil3464]

Do you also serve with Eastern grip?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Bob, No I don't serve with the Easter Grip. It is less than ideal for creating racquet head speed and spin. However, it is a good option if you have very limited rotational mobility in your shoulder. Check out my serve videos for more details and instruction. Best, John

[@bobgil3464]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Thanks just hit the court yesterday for the first time since 1997. Felt good. I learned I got a lot of learning to do.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@bobgil3464 that’s great Bob! Check out my lessons on my channel cover a lot of fundamental things that will help you get on track! Happy Thanksgiving!

[@masyrafnukman3932]

I wish you continued success in the field of tennis and youtube thank you

[@vishalsharma-uy9zf]

I have pro staff 97 inch square... Would i be able to play semi western grip with the small face racquet?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Vishal, Yes for sure! The Pro-Staff 97" is a great size and racquet design for the semi-western forehand grip. Best, John

[@danstenis660]

Or you can go straight to between the eastern grip and the semi-western grip. And progressively move over little by little to the semi-western grip. Or if you don't want to waste time, go straight to the semi-western grip. Practice driving through balls at different heights with the semi-western grip.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for the great feedback, Dan! Kindly, John

[@alexandromarcel2584]

Congrats! Do you HAVE The same for backhands?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Check out our backhand videos on the channel!

[@nd8086]

Hi John, my son is 5-foot-9 turning 17 this month and has Western grip. Please, elaborate on pros & cons of changing to Semi-Western. Or give me the direction where to get these insights. Much appreciated, hope you can get this message. Nikola

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Nikola, Pros: More versatility, can handle lower balls with power and spin, where the western is vulnerable to low balls. You can drive through the ball better with SW and gain more extension/ space with the SW. There really isn't any con/ negative to switching to SW...it is the better option for sure. The player just needs to commit to the change, which could take a a couple weeks or 10 - 12 hours of focused practice. I am happy to review the stroke and give you a complete analysis: performanceplustennis.com/performance-plus-serve-stroke-video-analysis-description/. Best, John

[@MiguelAngelo-bl5to]

Great..

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks Miguel! Kindly, John

[@dblbogy397]

We were taught to hit the Continental grip by stepping into the ball and hitting the ball off the front foot. Your racket would be going out and up with an outside rub to get top spin. It worked with low and high balls and opened the court up big time. None of this hit the ball 2 feet in front of you which the average player will never be able to do. Teach a child and yes they will grow to do it as an adult.

[@sebastiansantos5561]

with the eastern grip are you able to hit the ball faster than the other grips?? in my opinion yes!! what about you

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Yes, I tend to agree. You can certainly hit flat, so 100% of the racquet head speed creates ball speed. Tough to hit hard and flat with SW or Western. Best, John

[@sebastiansantos5561]

@@PerformancePlusTennis and either put some top spin

[@joeystraveling]

I also am a very short player so playing with a continental grip is literally probably the worst thing I couldve done always thought i couldnt beat players with heavy topspin bc i was small nope just cuz i was playing with continental as a short person

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Definitely better to have a semi-western to play those medium and high contacts with topspin!

[@kiesbett]

good video, thanks! my 17year old son has exactly the mentioned problems with the western grip. but how to transform to semi western? simply change the grip and continue? or are there any drills for that? i mean, there changes so much, the contact point, maybe the takeback, does that change then automatically? all the best!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi and thanks for your questions. The short answer is slow down to make the adjustment. Practice until comfortable. No match play until comfortable. There are drills but not something I can easily explain. This is a video topic I will cover in the near future. Best, John

[@kiesbett]

thank you so much! @@PerformancePlusTennis

[@baby16gurl9]

Is it normal to teach tennis fundamentals with a continental grip? My first coach did and when I discovered that there where more grips, I got mad.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

HI, It is not normal, but it is not a bad thing! Ultimately all of your shots will be played with a continental grip (Serves, volleys, slice backhands, overheads, slice forehands, etc. Only the Topspin forehand and one handed backhand will use different grips, and if you are a two-handed backhand, the continental grip is ideal as well. It is much easier to learn continental grip skills and then move to the specific grips for forehand and one handed topspin backhand. I see too many coaches not teaching it and then you all these rec players that never get the rights skills developed. Check out video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHvdinqfpbipp5Y Best, John

[@pickleballtr]

After Swiatek and Djokovic maybe it’s time to focus western more. As everybody started teaching Djo’s technic allready?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

I think most would agree Djokovic plays his forehand with a semi-western grip. Swiatek most certainly a western. Did you hear Federer's Dartmouth speech? He certainly touts the Eastern grip. Best, John

[@doudoubulle]

Move from the western to the semi western is so difficult for me 😢

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

You can do it! But you just learn the adjustment in practice time, not match play. Good luck and keep me updated on your progress. Best, John

[@kamrannikoo7764]

I have one grip for both forehand and backhand as well as serve and slice and it's the Continental. It is so confusing to keep changing from forehand to backhand.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Kamran, That's great if it works for you! Leander Paes, John McEnroe and others played with the continental grip very successfully. Kindly, John

[@kahhowong3417]

The Western Grip can be tempered by hitting half volleys and that is a very powerful forehand response.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for your comment and contribution to the video. Best, John

[@kahhowong3417]

@@PerformancePlusTennis My pleasure.

[@kahhowong3417]

@@PerformancePlusTennis I am of Asian build, and I find that I needed to master all the different grips, as being of a Asian build especially in the wrist, I need to use all grips and adapt that to the variety of ball bounce and height positions, Whereas with a European Build (ironically a Western Build) can do without a variety of grips. Bit like having more gears to the smaller higher revving Japanese engines

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@kahhowong3417 That makes perfect sense, and I like the analogy of having more gears...more options. You must be quite skilled! Best, John

[@kahhowong3417]

@@PerformancePlusTennis My Age is 72, I grew up in England and attended Boarding School ( at a time when there was a divide between Pros and Amateur) and then read Architecture at University College London. On attaining a Chartered Architect Accreditation, I worked as an architect in the U.K. before returning to S E Asia where I now Direct the Research Unit as Software Developer Architect. Tennis has been a passion for me a helped me in both my academic and professional career and I take a science approach to Tennis as Physics was my major interest. Love your teaching.

[@smokinjoe4684]

During my forehand after I release the racket with my non dominant hand, I've been trying to use my non dominant hand to square my shoulders to the net in order to get my body and its kinetic chain involved. Usually with my elbow facing somewhat down and my hand up. Is this something I can/should cement into my muscle memory?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

I'd have to see an image of what you are describing. Typically in the non-dom arm extension, the palm should be facing down. And yes, the correct movement should be built into your muscle memory. Best, John

[@UlyssesVillamin]

Why do you think Fed used an Eastern instead of a SW if its more versatile?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Ulysses, Thanks for your great question. I think the SW is the grip of choice because more high contacts are played in the modern era. It adapts better to low, medium and high contacts for topspin than the Eastern FH grip. Interestingly, Federer changed his grip to Eastern. He used to play with the SW early in his career. Certainly an unusual change. His early forehand is/ was a better model to follow than the more extreme lag forehand he developed in the last 10 - 12 years. I hope this is helpful to you. Best, John

[@UlyssesVillamin]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Thanks for your insight! My son is 10 and he is developing a forehand similar to RF’s in terms of using a more straight arm and with a SW. I am pondering is switching him to Eastern would be a good idea. Do you have any “stroke analysis/critique” service where I can send vids of my son’s strokes for you to evaluate?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@UlyssesVillamin Yes, I do. It is quite popular with my on-line students. Here is a link where you can learn more: performanceplustennis.com/performance-plus-serve-stroke-video-analysis-description/. Please let me know if you have questions. Thanks, John

[@UlyssesVillamin]

@@PerformancePlusTennis I tried to purchase the analysis service, but after I entered my credit card details, it says that the page cannot be found.

[@suckmeoff4682]

Bc matter of fact the Eastern is more versatile, the SW is safer. Having your hand behind the ball (eastern) makes it easier to direct your shot plus the Eastern makes flattening out a shot very easy while with a SW a flattened shot is considered high risk. Eastern is just a little fragile with topspin production being found at a very forward contact point

[@bournejason66]

Hi coach, what’s your tips for people whose forehand racket face open at contact?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi Bourne, thanks for your great question! Two ideas for you: 1) I tell my students that there’s no place in the swing when the racquet is open. This is something you must feel through your grip. 2) Practice your forehand with shadow strokes with your eyes closed. After three or four complete swings, stop your swing what do you think or feel the contact point is. Open your eyes and look! Did you find the proper contact with your eyes shut? If not keep practicing to improve your feel of where the racquet head is. Let me know how this works for you. Thanks, John

[@bournejason66]

Performance Plus Tennis thanks a lot John. I’ll practice this and let you know how it goes.

[@andrewwalker6551]

John, Thanks for the excellent video! Is it reasonable to switch grips? That is use Eastern forehand sometimes and sometimes semi-western forehand? Do players do this? Club players? Or am I just going to confuse myself? I currently use Eastern forehand, but I'd like to have more spin sometimes. I had 1 lesson on semi-western and felt I was starting to "get" it, but then when going to clinics and playing matches, I was too shy or intimidated to try it out because I just wanted to get the ball over the net and keep it in play. Nobody wants to rally with someone who just keeps hitting it into the net :)

[@AK47_414]

Started playing tennis since the summer started and I’m using the eastern grip and I am experiencing minor discomfort in my wrists/wrist pain what do I do

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi, and thanks of for your question. There are a number of things that could be causing your pain. Without seeing your forehand, it is not possible for me to provide meaningful feedback. Let me know if you are interested in a video review of your forehand. Thanks, John

[@AK47_414]

@@PerformancePlusTennis Ok I’ll see if I can send you a video but I just okay for fun and my wrist hurts I don’t know if it’s bad technique but I never really play tennis so it could just be that I have a weak wrist.

[@radiohead2206]

It seems like Semi western grip is also a top spin backhand grip ? Single hand ?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi, DO you meanby running the hand/ arm over and just hold the same grip and contact the ball with the same side of the strings? I strongly don't advise that. There are players that use (or used) an extreme backhand grip (Wawrinka, Henin, Guga for example), but for rec players and eastern backhand grip is more versatile. Best, John

[@beam6981]

Thanks for the video john! I am a 5.0 player that uses the SW grip but I have fallen into a slump of really having to over exaggerate on getting under the ball for topspin when hitting crosscourt or it tends to go in the net. I am experimenting with turning racket handle slightly opening the racket face at contact...do you think that would cure the feeling of the racket head feeling too closed at contact and netting the cross courts ? I just feel like I am in between grips now and finding it may be difficult to repeat this positioning repeatedly. What are your thoughts?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Hi, and thanks for your comments and questions. I am not sure of your age or preference for singles or doubles, but I suggest you should move gradually toward a hybrid Eastern/ SW. This will serve you better in the long run. We rarely see senior players (50+) successfully playing with the SW or W grip. Let me know your thoughts and keep me updated on your progress. Best regards, John

[@beam6981]

@@PerformancePlusTennis I predominantly play singles/ball machine. I am 50 years old. So, it is not going to be impossible for me to go to a slightly more opened racket face at contact, as far as being able to get to that grip repeatedly and consistently? Thanks for your input!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@beam6981 Just to be clear, aim for a vertical racket face, not open. Best, John

[@beam6981]

@@PerformancePlusTennis yes, i see what you are saying. I guess during this stretch of netting some cross court forehands I feel the racket face has been closed.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@beam6981 Aim for vertical and extend out through your contact. Imagine you are still driving the ball after contact. Keep me updated on your progress. Best, John

[@observer1111]

The first two and a half minutes can just be thrown away for those who played in the sixties!))☝🤣

[@paulrenton824]

Fun fact - Djokovic used western grip for a large portion of his career. He adjusted slightly over time

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks Paul for your comment and contribution to the video. Novak was certainly "borderline" western", but his style enabled him to also flatten out the ball as well. Best, John

[@tenniswilliam]

How about switching grip positions on tbe fly?

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Great question! Subtle grip changes are not uncommon...moving from an Eastern to Semi-western for a high contact, as an example. However, this is very advanced and not suitable for most players. Best, John

[@ampiciline]

I think hammer grip is THE best ..... Fred Pery , Arthur Ashe , Illie Nastasi , Johny Mac , Estefan Edberg all were using hammer grip .... the most versatile grip of all . tennis is NOT about power, tennis is about Art of placement AND depth .... depth and placement beats ANY powerful tennis player .

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

I appreciate your perspective and comments. And I agree the continental grip is the most versatile. However, the game has changed...more power, more spin, higher contact points, etc. We don't see players using the C grip on the forehand for these reasons. The Eastern and Semi-western provide better leverage and power and all contact points (low, medium and high), and the ability to generate more topspin. Edberg was literally the last to use it (although Gasquet is not far off the C grip), but he, like the others mentioned had one goal...get to the net. Their forehands would never survive in the game today. Kindly, John

[@ampiciline]

@@PerformancePlusTennis The main reason I LOVE C grip is because of its great utility in the return of the todays huge serve.....in this beautiful clip you could see how Jonny mac is retuning Boris serve so effectively. Not only he is returning But also attacking !!! ....No other grip can allow you to do that .... Also, Edberg had the same quality. Parrick Rafter was using ALL C grip for his return of serve against Sampras and Richard Krajicek serve so effectively kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJPOnWNrqK9jiaMsi=MK_x-qFq4D21_DEZ

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

@@ampiciline Certainly this video is an awesome display of attacking the serve...something we rarely see today. McEnroe was amazing, how he attacked and came forward so quickly, even against Becker, who of course had an excellent second serve. Too bad players don't take more chances like Mac! Not sure if this can't done within eastern or semi-western, because no one does it! 🙂

[@lawpilot8526]

2/11/2022 In the beginning of the video, you spoke about the positions of the grip 1 through 4. Then, when you start talking about the different grips, you neither show the grip not say anything about the position in terms of 1 through 4. You need to show the grip.

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks for the feedback. I will provide more detail going forward. Thanks, John

[@FairwayJack]

like

[@jeffperkett6978]

dont teach western before semi western

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Don't teach western at all! The student/ player will naturally move to a western if natural, but I will never teach a student to do it.

[@speedyElk]

Funny u don’t move much

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

This video is not about movement...it's about grips. :)

[@leonardozapata4212]

Excellent!

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thank you so much, Leonardo! Kindly, John.

[@Food-Dharma]

Great video

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks! Best, John

[@dwoo0418]

this is a great video, thank you

[@PerformancePlusTennis]

Thanks so much! Best, John