The Terminator (1984) ✦ First Time Watching Reaction ✦ This is terrifying, but I'll be back!

[@kaiielle]

Thanks for joining me as I embark on my journey with EVIL CYBORG ARNOLD. My reaction to Terminator 2 will come out sometime in February! So stay tuned for that. Please no spoilers about future movies! 💛 FREE Patreon Reactions: kaiielle.com/free

[@MatthewPettyST1300]

The transport process from the future will only carry organic material. That's why they showed up Naked with NO weapons. The flesh surrounding the combat chassis of the Terminator was enough to bring it along.

[@rmora1]

The terminator is not evil, it's a machine, It has no concept of evil. Only people can be evil, nothing in nature can be evil. Snakes, bears, rocks, hurricanes can all kill you, but they are not evil.

[@autonomouspublishingincorp8241]

There are numerous Terminator cash grabs in the franchise but T2 is the only one of historic acclaim, and seeing this one is a must to get the full effect of T2. You are ready.

[@amberlopez7477]

Please make sure to watch the theatrical release of Terminator 2 The extened film cut is crap.💀

[@itubeutubewealltube1]

The original star trek series from the 60's had numerous boot strap time episodes. The most well known would be "the city on the edge of forever" .. The fourth star trek movie in 85 with the original cast from the sixties also had a boot strap time theory as well.

[@rodentnolastname6612]

"The Picture" is one of my most favorite setup-payoffs in cinema. Reese says he was wondering what Sarah was thinking at that moment. She was thinking about him. 😲😢

[@paulatredies9242]

•Facepalm• Why didn’t I ever piece that together! Thank you.

[@chriskelly3481]

😭😭😭

[@rodentnolastname6612]

The tragic thing is, he didn't know what she was thinking at the moment, but neither did she as for her it hadn't happened yet 🤔

[@sean---the-other-one]

@@rodentnolastname6612 even more tragic, since she never saw what the photo was that Kyle was referring to, she’d take a while before she realised it was that one. She may never have been able to remember what she was thinking. Luckily there was a film crew there to capture it all.

[@joeblankenship377]

It's a really crazy time loop. Kyle's stuck looping in time for eternity.

[@rodentnolastname6612]

Fun Fact; Arnold practiced shooting guns so he could fire them without blinking. He also practiced fast reloading and stripping the guns blindfolded. Guns and Ammo magazine gave the film praise for realistic depictions of gun use.

[@ulyssesfilmchannel]

What’s cooler than seeing The Terminator for the first time? Seeing The Terminator for the first time on VHS from the rental shop in the 1980s. Talk about nostalgia! I’ll be back for T2 😎😉

[@rodentnolastname6612]

I saw both in the theater. Fuck I'm old!!

[@bghammock]

I joined Columbia House (at an age younger than was legal, heh heh) specifically to get The Terminator on VHS back in the day ;)

[@lewisner]

I saw it on release. I'd had a few pints and decided to check it out . I was sober in 10 minutes.

[@USCFlash]

"What’s cooler than seeing The Terminator for the first time? Seeing The Terminator for the first time on VHS from the rental shop in the 1980s." Seeing it in the theaters was cooler than both of the above.

[@michaelellis1819]

Seeing this movie as a kid in the 80's, that metal skeleton was terrifying

[@mikeburke8772]

This film could be seen as an example of a causal loop. John Connor sent Kyle Reese back in time -> John Connor was conceived -> John Connor is able to send Kyle Reese back in time. Based solely on this film, it’s unclear whether Kyle Reese was always John’s father or if he became such only because he was sent back. Either way, his being sent back allows John to eventually send him back.

[@DMSG1981]

"That's a bearded dragon, right?" Close, it's an iguana.

[@lh8956]

Thank you for enjoying the “Hey you can’t do that! WRONG” dialogue. No one ever picks up on or mentions the low key humor of that line. It’s both a serious and funny response at the same time.

[@bloodymarvelous4790]

Unfortunately most of the banter between Traxler and Vukovich was cut out. Those two have great dialog together.

[@DirtMaguirk]

@@bloodymarvelous4790 How do I look? Like shit, boss. Yo mama.

[@bloodymarvelous4790]

"I always wondered what you were thinking." She was thinking about you.

[@domingocurbelomorales8635]

Sad fact: When Kyle speaks about the photograph of Sarah, he always used to wonder what she was thinking in that moment. At the end of the scene, when the picture is finally taken, we found out in that moment she was thinking of him all along.

[@RuntotheMovies]

I have seen this film dozenS of times and I never caught the police office saying "rabbiting." I always heard "running." One learns something new! I don't have time to watch the rest of the reaction today. I'll be back.

[@illengustavo]

34:22 What you are trying to describe here is called "anemoia". A feeling of nostalgia for something you haven't experienced in your life, based solely on your familiarity with aesthetic aspects of a certain era.

[@georger.3489]

Actually Arnold had an eye on playing Kyle Reese first because he wanted to be the hero. Thank God James Cameron didn't let that happen. Excellent reaction as always Kaielle. I´ll be back for Terminator 2😎

[@bloodymarvelous4790]

Not really. The Terminator was supposed to be an every man, with Lance Henriksen slated to play him. Arnold Schwarzenegger was interviewed for the role of Kyle Reese because he was pushed on the director by the studio. James Cameron had lunch with Schwarzenegger where he decided to have a fight so Schwarzenegger would opt out of the role. Arnold then expressed his interest in playing The Terminator instead of Kyle Reese. Though it substantially changed the image of the terminator, the idea interested James. He redid his concept art of The Terminator with Arnold instead of Lance, and history was made. Lance was then cast as police officer Vukovich, and was ultimately able to play a robot in Aliens.

[@jaybird8192]

Actually, Arnold didn't want to play the Reese character, but wanted to play the killer Terminator instead!

[@markb742]

I had also heard that Arnold wanted to play Reese, but Cameron told him to think about Star Wars. In Star Wars, the most iconic character is always Darth Vader. Luke Skywalker or Han Solo were just afterthoughts. This was what convinced Arnold that the Terminator role would be better.

[@sean---the-other-one]

@@bloodymarvelous4790 The remnants of those thoughts came out in what must be dialogue left over from the original script, when Reece describes the Terminator as an infiltration unit. In a world where the humans are starving, it’s be easy to spot a human so beefed up as what the Arnie Terminator was. There’s no way you’d have Arnie as an infiltrator in that situation.

[@zacharyjoy8724]

Roughly 31:50 It’s a deleted scene in this movie, but right after Sarah is loaded into the ambulance, we see the name of the factory: Cyberdyne Robotics. Thus setting up important details for the sequel.

[@shainewhite2781]

Before Arnold Schwarzenegger was cast as the titular character, OJ Simpson was considered, but James Cameron changed his mind saying, "He's too much of a nice guy to play the role of a ruthless killer."😳🤦 Mel Gibson, Sylvester Stallone, Tom Selleck, and Lance Henriksen were considered Bruce Springsteen, Michael O'Keefe, Tommy Lee Jones, Christopher Reeve, Scott Glenn, Sting, Treat Williams, and Matt Dillon were considered for Kyle Reese. Lea Thompson, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Jessica Harper, Melissa Sue Anderson, Rosanna Arquette, and Lisa Langolis were considered for Sarah Connor.

[@amberlopez7477]

Jennifer Jason Leigh, would have been great.

[@StarkRG]

Turned out that Cameron was right, at least as far as a jury trial was concerned.

[@phila3884]

Kaiielle, I've seen this movie a hundred times (well, you know what I mean), and I never caught the glowing red eye when Arnold is driving the tanker truck. Good job!

[@vodengc520]

For some reason, one of my favorite little "trivia" things about the Terminator itself, is that Arnold's eyes "scan" like a security camera. If you look a scene or two, you can see him turn his eyes completely to one side before his head starts moving, and then he does it again in the other direction. I never really thought about that until I heard them (either Cameron or Schwarzenegger, I can't remember) mention it in an interview/documentary.

[@suproliver]

Many Terminator fans say they love the sequel best, Terminator 2. When I first watched Terminator 2 in theaters, I was in total agreement that this was the best! But now that I'm 48 years old, I have since rewatched these films. And I gotta say, as much as T2 was the bomb, my heart goes out to the original Terminator. I love the 80s nostalgic moments. Even the music soundtrack played in the Techo something club where Sarah almost dies. While I love T2, I just don't get the same feelings of nostalgia. It's still considered too new to me, I guess. Even though it's over 30 years old already. Ironic. -OG

[@rodentnolastname6612]

La Jetée (1962) which is a strange experimental French "photo film", using only still images, that examines the chicken and egg paradox of time travel. It was basically remade by Terry Gilliam as "12 Monkeys" (another great film worth reacting to).

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

I love 12 monkeys. That's one of those movies that I talked about with friends for weeks afterwards.

[@patrickflanagan3762]

You think that's something, check out PREDESTINATION (2014) starring Ethan Hawke and Sarah Snook. Based on the Robert Heinlein story "--All You Zombies--".

[@rodentnolastname6612]

@@patrickflanagan3762 she was asking specifically about films older that Terminator

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

@@patrickflanagan3762 I saw that one years ago. The ending was unexpected to say the least. "Primer", I hear, is one of the most well thought out time travel related stories but very complicated to follow. It made $840,000 dollars on a $7000 budget. That 120 times its investment!

[@lewisner]

The best time travel story ever is the Outer Limits (1996) episode A Stitch In Time, in my opinion.

[@dennytaylor1005]

Another great reaction. I always enjoy the after talk. Oh, I've watched a few other Terminator reactions. You're the first one I've seen that made the connection that Sarah started turning into what she was about to become as she pulled Reese up and started ordering him as if in combat. Great realization on your part.

[@michaelf.7172]

😎 Per your request. So... I'm an old guy. Grew up in the late 60's, early 70's. I saw this when it came out in 1984. And, as it happens, I had just moved out to LA, so it was kind of fun seeing places in the city. What I like best about the movie is what seemed to underwhelm you. Once all of the human flesh had been burned off the terminator, and you could see the hyper alloy combat chassis underneath, I got the dreadful realization that there was nothing that they could have done to this machine to have stopped it. It's just an evil, robot skeleton bent on destruction. Of course, back in 1984, the effects were okay, but not great. However, having grown up on stop-motion horror movies, I do find stop-motiony things to be very unsettling. And, the animation of the terminator's endoskeleton was... unsettling to me at the time. Nothing like the kind of stuff we have now. But... I didn't see this for the first time now. I saw it then. I don't know what the first bootstrap paradox movie was, but I do enjoy time travel movies. The Time Machine (1960) was pretty good. 1985 was the first Back to the Future movie, which I loved immensely. (Still do.) But... it's a different kind of movie. Now, time travel is passe. Been there. Done that. Again. A long time ago. Thank you for the watch. Keep them coming. 😎

[@JFizz76]

😎Keep up the great commentary. Your breakdown thoughts are always on-point and you explain yourself in a way that I understand, even if I feel different.

[@kaiielle]

I appreciate that a lot, thank you!

[@Wagoo]

It's hilarious you find Arnie more terrifying than an almost indestructible robot skeleton with glowing red eyes chasing you 😂

[@rodentnolastname6612]

Fun Fact; they built the dance club scene set in an empty retail shop. While filming, a bunch of people thought it was a real dance club and got in line to get in 😲🤣🤣

[@jamessullivan4391]

The Tech Noir??!! Fuck yeah, count me in!

[@TheOriginalJammyOne]

Nostalgia is definitely the feeling I get when watching this. Remembering the late 80s going into the early 90s, this movie is definitely a part of that. Watching it on VHS and the quality not being able to show certain details like his iconic spikey hairstyle was actually his hair burned away and not noticing his eyebrows are also burnt off. lol My favourite behind the scenes trivia is that both Arnold Schwarzenegger and James Cameron where going to argue with each other at a meeting to get out of the movie, because Arnold was cast as Reese, but he didn't want to play that character and Cameron didn't want him to play him either... and also, OJ Simpson didn't get cast as the Terminator because nobody would believe him as a cold-blooded killer. lol Terminator made Arnold a big star, but I would recommend his first real big hit, Conan the Barbarian, from 1982. It's epic, great soundtrack, and it popularised a whole movie genre that I won't say in case even that spoils some things. 😎

[@serenavox5540]

Late 80s baby checking in. I saw this movie and the second one as a kid and they were a couple of movies that I regularly asked to rewatch over and over again. I loved this reaction video, it’s so fun to feel that first time reaction over again as it were. I hope you enjoy T2 as much if not more. It’s my favourite movie of all time!

[@Murrlin27]

Reactions like these are just like getting to watch the movie for the 1st time all over again!

[@tashrif46]

Revolutionary. Changed the Sci-fi genre forever. It mixed elements of sci-fi and horror genres and blended them into one seamlessly. James Cameron was a visionary in that way. And the fact that he directed this movie with a grand total of $1 million is something really.

[@JosephBegay]

I remember seeing this movie at a small movie cineplex back in the day. I was completely floored by how good it was for a low budget movie. I didn't know what to expect since this movie didn't have much advertising when it came out. 😎

[@GatorScribe726]

Can’t wait for you to watch Terminator 2. Enjoyed watching as always. 😎

[@undertow5164]

"Machines need love too" is a line that never sunk in before and I'm pretty sure i've seen this 10-15 times

[@drayman101]

15:12 "My brain immediately went to Star Wars, the HK series of droids" ... well, that's cause they're also called "Hunter-Killer droids", and they're a nod to Terminator!

[@Psycopathicus]

I know exactly what you mean about nostalgia VS longing for the past. Every now and then I will run across something that I did NOT experience in my childhood, but is so much of that time that it makes me feel roughly the same emotions as something I did. For example, I never watched 'David the Gnome' as a kid, but I ran across the intro to it recently, and it was so reminiscent of other cartoons I used to love that it just brought tears to my eyes, and made me wish I'd had a chance to watch it back then. Also, since you like this type and era of film, I'm going to recommend a film to you that has unfortunately been forgotten, but deserves more love - 'The Hidden', from 1987. It's not quite the same thing as 'Terminator' - I won't explain how; it's the sort of movie that's best to discover the details of for yourself - but it has a similar feel to it in some ways, and there's some great action.

[@Dash277]

Great reaction. I really like watching when people legit don't know what's going on. You piecing together things in the beginning was my experience seeing it the first time.

[@mrd4785]

I was born in the very early 80's and watched all these R rated movies when I was still a kid. I think we all did. Sometimes mum would record the movies to VCR but cut out the raunchy scenes. A lot of people somehow think you don't remember the decade you were born in but I remember catching the bus and all the older kids asking the driver to play hair metal constantly since I was 5. When you are that age, you can soak up so much information like a sponge - its how we learn and probably this early formative exposure is what differentiates generations. There were a lot of really good movies made in the 80's. I'm surprised how so many reactors have only got to some of the headline films and they're missing out on some truly golden nostalgic content. There are some great teen flicks. The one I often turned to replay most often as a kid was Teen Wolf - classic Michael J Fox that everyone ignores for some reason. For me, the first reactor who takes a risk to cover this deserves an accolade...

[@kaiielle]

If you haven't checked out Cassie (Popcorn in Bed), she's reacted to a wiiiiiide variety of films, including many lesser known ones!

[@thexintax]

This movie is a classic! One of Arnolds most famous roles. Strong female lead in Sarah Connor. Tho Terminator 2 is by far my, and mostly everyones fav, this movie still holds up pretty well with the make up and practical effects, and still worth watching every year.

[@JQuickDraw]

So for you, nostalgia = homesickness + familiarity. That makes sense.

[@RandomNPC001]

John being conceived is not complicated at all, just got to think in a non linear manner. Terminator 3 wraps up everything nicely!

[@vinnycordeiro]

Like Obi-Wan Kenobi once said to Luke, that depends on your point of view. For some people (myself included) there are only two Terminator movies; for others there are more, and even a TV show. And for that homesick feeling that 80s movies brings to you, I highly recommend for you to watch The Goonies. It's a fun kids movie with some faces that people would recognize later on (one of them you'll see... Soon™).

[@libertyresearch-iu4fy]

My favourite fun fact about this movie has to do with the terminator character. The producers wanted OJ Simpson to play the terminator, but James Cameron didn't think Simpson looked like a killer. I hope you get the irony.

[@Blue-qr7qe]

23:36 When i lived in NYC, we had a SUPE for our apt. complex who sounded just like this guy - best line in the movie: "Hey , buddy, you got a dead cat in there or what?" So NY.

[@kaiielle]

I've been to NYC twice in my life. Love the accent there!

[@Blue-qr7qe]

@@kaiielle yeah, that sounded like pretty straight up Brooklynese. I get the sense it's not what it used to be. On a grander scale. 'Used to be able to walk down to the Village and hear top name jazz in the Village Vanguard, or the Blue Note, Fat Tuesdays... all those great jazz clubs. I don't think you walk around much at night, now. 'Glad i was there when i was there.

[@guitarman8462]

They actually made a mistake on this film if you notice . When he says "' I'll Be Back " and comes through the door with the car , his lights are turned off coming through the door , but the lights are shining bright in the police officers face behind the desk .

[@matthewdunham1689]

Thanks!

[@kaiielle]

Thank you SO much! ☺️

[@BaldusCattus]

Great fun as ever, I also love bootstrap paradoxes and other time-related shenanigans in sci-fi. Looking forward to watching T2 again with you.

[@matthewdunham1689]

He reached into his stomach and pulled his heart ❤️ out 🤣❤️‍🩹

[@MinecraftAedda]

Awesome reaction and outro, subscribed! Looking forward to watching your previous and future reactions! I'm a child of the 80's and that decade is burned into my soul including this masterpiece of paradoxical action sci-fi, and the music! The love scene theme remains one of my favorite songs to this day.

[@kaiielle]

Welcome in! Thank you ☺️

[@generic_sauce]

That's how I first saw these movies too! Dad showing me them when they were playing on AMC back in the day.

[@suproliver]

Terminator getting his eyebrows burned 🔥 off by the fiery explosion just prior to punching 👊 through the windshield to grab Sarah was a brilliant idea. It gives the vibe that the Terminator is not quite human. Not unlike an unstoppable Frankenstein monster after you! -OG

[@WesMordine]

Your feelings of nostalgia appear to be a time displacement paradox, @kaiielle

[@thatpatrickguy3446]

Great reaction to a great movie! Looking forward to T2. Kyle always wondered what she was thinking about in the picture. She was thinking about him. Such a cool part of the story, if kinda sad.

[@grife3000]

The earliest "Stable Time Loop" film listed on TVTropes appears to be "La Jetée (1962)". But I think it's been done many times in print during the golden age of sci fi.

[@rodentnolastname6612]

One of the best in print is the short story "By His Bootstraps" by Robert Heinlein

[@geraldnormandeau4144]

Ahhh La Jetee! Classic French 60s Sci Fi! A must watch for all serious Science Fiction Cinephiles.

[@orink.1083]

Then came Dr Who!

[@rodentnolastname6612]

@Orin K. Dr Who didn't tackle chicken and egg paradoxes hardly at all, neither did H.G. Wells's "The Time Machine" (book or the 1960 film).

[@dunringill1747]

The Bootstrap Paradox concept was first introduced by Robert A. Heinlein's Sci Fi book ‘By His Bootstraps’ (1941). The 'bootstrap paradox' is a derivative of the 'bootstrap' phrase with the addition of time to the concept. The 'original bootstrap' concept of 'pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps' basically means accomplishing an impossible task. It's been around since at least the 18th century with ‘The Surprising Adventures of Baron Munchhausen’. There are several movies from the beginning of cinema to show the 'bootstrap' concept. As for the 'bootstrap paradox' concept, it had to be after 1941. The earliest movie series I know to have both the 'bootstrap paradox' AND 'alternate timelines of reality' concepts was from the original Planet of the Apes series starting 1968.

[@billallen1307]

It is truly awesome to see someone see this for the first time with little or no knowledge of the movie prior to reacting. There is almost nothing that is not explained to those who wait. Born in the early 60s for me. And for the budget the social effects are very good for the time. Hold on for the effects for T2.

[@MATT-2033]

12:18 the reason that cop is not killed the guy playing him was going to take his mom to movie premier and didn't want her to see him killed. That guy was Brad Fiedel and he did the soundtrack for Terminator 1 & 2.

[@suproliver]

Only living things can travel through time. That's why they come through naked. Not even their clothes can go through much less, bringing back futuristic weapons. And is one of the reasons why the Terminator has human flesh to go back in time. -OG

[@3dbadboy1]

The actor who played Dr. Silverman is VERY famous in the gaming community. He did all the voiceover narration for all the characters in the original World of Warcraft game, Vanilla, The Burning Crusade, and Wrath of the Lich King, etc.

[@jaybird8192]

The actor who played Dr. Silverman, unfortunately passed away a few weeks ago! RIP!

[@3dbadboy1]

@@jaybird8192 Sad news indeed.

[@bankbarcomo806]

so he's famous in the WoW community, you mean.

[@3dbadboy1]

@@bankbarcomo806 truth.

[@Humstuck]

I think its cool that it made you feel like you explained at the end.

[@kegr1066]

Regarding your bootstrap question, the movie Somewhere in Time (1980) was James Cameron's favorite movie at the time he made Terminator. That's enough said to stay spoiler-free. I can say Christopher Reeve, Jane Seymour, and the location are fantastic in that movie. Watching that might even make you want to watch Christopher Reeves Superman movies for more of his smile

[@80s_kid]

35:12 It's the thing, the "magic" that makes 80s pop culture so special. That is why so many people can relate to it, even those who would not belong to the 80s generation because of their age group. 35:59 This phenomenon is called anemoia: nostalgia for a time or a place one has never known.

[@davidsavage5630]

Then I have anemoia real bad for about a few years before I was born. I was born in 1981 and sometimes long for the seeming simplicity of the the mid to late 70s. But I don't remember anything from before like 84-85. Nothing clear anyway. But it's not a perfect time either. There was a lot of things about back then that wasn't very great either. The 2020s will be "the good old days" to some future generation and we'll all wonder why. And around we go and go and go. I do not get the recent nostalgia for the 90s or early 2000s. Anything from 1998 on still feels new to me. I remember every summer the movies came out and everything and everyone complained about the unending CGI fests in the late 90s. In like 1997 we were already there. "Just a bunch of computer graphics." Now everyone is like "oh yeah, back when they made real movies and used CGI well." But nobody really felt that way at the time. I actually feel like they use CGI better now...or at least in the last decade because most people are over it. Not as wowed as they used to be..

[@MilkSteak55]

I can relate 1000%. I was born in the 90s but have anemoia for the 80s especially

[@MATT-2033]

In 1994 i was 8 years old and my father showed me Terminator 2 and i enjoyed it so he put a vhs tape of THE TERMINATOR in the vcr and ever since then THE TERMINATOR has been my favorite movie.

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

32:24 The dog winked at us, like even he knew that it was important that John send Kyle into the past!!!!

[@noisyrhysling]

To answer your question: There are only two Terminator movies. There are some people who will tell you there are several more but they are wrong. The ONLY two Terminator movies are perfect storytelling and doing another would have been ridiculous so obviously Hollywood stopped at two.

[@Thylonicus]

(As a disclaimer, all opinions formed, information taken, inferences made and so on and so forth are relating to and from this movie and this movie alone. No reference to or information from any other parts of the "Terminator" franchise are included. When discussing what characters know or don't know, what information is an isn't available, et cetera, it's taking this movie by itself.) This movie is an example of predestination, also called a "stable time loop"; two, actually. There isn't a paradox, as they make perfectly logical sense. John exists because he sent Kyle back, and John was trained to fight Skynet because Skynet sent the Terminator back. Things happened because they happened. It makes perfect sense if you think of it geographically instead of chronologically. For the loop with Reese: You're Kaiielle in your living room, and when you walk into your kitchen, you're still Kaiielle. Your objective location changed, but your subjective existence did not. Similarly, Reese was Reese when he fought the H.K.s and ran from the Terminators, and he was still Reese when he stepped into Los Angeles. That the objective chronological location changed didn't mean his subjective existence changed. John was aware of the loop; he gave Reese the photograph, knowing Reese would fall in love with her, and he sent Reese back, knowing they would create him. He did it because he did it; if he didn't send Reese back, he couldn't have sent Reese back. I think most people's problem with the idea is the notion of free will. We want to believe we can change reality, and the idea of predestination throw that right out the window. Interestingly, there's some debate about how much Skynet "knew". Was it aware of the time loop? We don't know. Reese said it became "self aware", but what does that even mean? Not only does this term come from a military grunt (Reese was an intelligent man by all accounts to be sure, but due to circumstance incapable of having any real experience with or knowledge of robotics as a field), it comes from a movie released in 1984. The closest thing to "robots" the public was really aware of was Teddy Ruxpin (not that I'm dating myself or anything...); the Internet was only a thing in a very strict, strict sense (in 1983 ARPANET split into to distinct networks, the military MILNET and the civilian Internet¹) Two time travel movies I *heartily* recommend are "Predestination" starring Ethan Hawke and released in 2014, and "Primer" starring and directed by Shane Carruth and released in 2004. "PRedestination"--what can be said about it? It's one of those movies where nearly *any* attempt to describe either gives the whole thing away, or seems utterly nonsensical. It's a movie about time travel taht explores the idea of predestination. I think that's about all I can really say. "Primer" is an independent film; two engineers accidentally discover a method of time travel. The film explores ides like causality and ethics. It's complex but does a fair job of explaining what really needs to be explained. NOTES: 1. "Civilian" in this context refers to the fact that it was not primarily used for military or government purposes, but rather for scientific research and communication among academics. 2. For my fellow Internet nerds: During the late 1970s to mid-1980s, the Internet was still a relatively small and closed community. It was not until the development of the World Wide Web in the 1990s that the Internet truly began to be accessible to the general public. Incidentally, 1983 was also the year the Domain Name System (DNS) was introduced and the first TCP/IP protocols were fully implemented. For more information regarding the history of the Internet and ARPANET, consult the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), the Internet Society (ISOC), the National Science Foundation (NSF), and the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), as well as universities and research institutes that played a key role in their development, such as MIT, UCLA, and CERN.

[@Corndog642]

Classic 80’s action/horror. Throughout the 80’s it became trendy to amp up the action as well as the gore. It’s amazing how well it still holds up.

[@kmvoss]

Well, this was fun watching you discover the famous lines you've been hearing all your life. Great reaction. :)

[@kaiielle]

Thank you!

[@WadeWallenstein]

I have been watching other First Time Viewing channels and yours popped up just now. Wonderful reaction! I'll be checking out some of your other videos after this and hope you watch T2!

[@kaiielle]

Thanks Wade! Happy to have you here.

[@kevinburton3948]

The scene in which Sarah gives away her location to the Terminator over the answering machine encapsulates the main theme of the film- "Machines will ultimately betray us."

[@henrytjernlund]

Great reaction to an awesome movie. Took me back to sitting in the theater with friends watching this for the first time. Thanks.

[@kaiielle]

Thank you!

[@avader5]

@14:24 time travel machines was built by a human who made sure that it would not transport weapons. That’s why the terminator has to have living tissue over the metal alloy.

[@eschiedler]

Nothing quite like the 1980's movies. One-screen theaters and VHS tapes on analog TVs. Big, bold and brash blockbusters made especially for the medium.

[@thecockerel86]

Saw it in 1985 as a teenager in 🇬🇭. Still one of my favourites. 😎

[@brandonchurch9023]

4:00 You have heard that term before. You just don't remember. Revisit your Avengers Part 1 video, 35:55. As Coulson's dying, he tells Fury, "The god rabbited." 🙂

[@gutspraygore]

I'm glad your viewers don't spoil things for you, too. Seeing how little you know about the movie is a treat when watching these types of videos. That being said... SPOILER: Terminator 2 is an excellent sequel.

[@damianstarks3338]

Fantastic reaction to this classic masterpiece of a Sci Fi movie

[@matthewdunham1689]

I think this is the greatest sci-fi movie 🎬 of all time. (And it was shot on a relatively short budget) Cameron used guerrilla movie making to flim a lot of it.

[@jb888888888]

I agree with the commenter who talked about one of the best casting choices. John E. Bristol MADE this film.

[@robertbasine8842]

Great “bootstrap” films: TIME CRIMES, TRIANGLE, PREDESTINATION, TIME LAPSE, PRIMER

[@6li8storm40]

30:49 I agree with your hierarchy of how terrifying the Terminator is.

[@suproliver]

There is a lot of irony in this film. Kyle's photo of Sarah gets burned in the apocalyptic future but gets taken again in the past when the boy at the gas ⛽️ station snaps her 📸 picture. Kyle says he always wondered what Sarah was thinking about in the picture. Little did he know that she was thinking was thinking of him as she made her recordings. Kyle tragically dies in the past, only to be born again in the future. It's a vicious circle. An unyielding time loop. This is a very creative story. It's such a great movie! -OG

[@suproliver]

Yes. The Terminator was the first sci-fi movie to have this time paradox. All other future sci-fi movies that are similar get their ideas from THIS film. -OG

[@guitarman8462]

Arnold also has many Terminator movies after this one. And also : Conan The Barbarian - Conan The Destroyer - The Running Man ( which is a Stephen King story )- The Predator - Commando and many more . He even did a western in the early days .

[@MATT-2033]

Originally THE TERMINATOR was supposed to be filmed in 1983 but the director of Conan The Barbarian wouldn't allow it unless Swarchenegger did one more barbarian movie reason he him self said he knew Swarcheneggers was about to become a big movie star.

[@jasonwright5354]

If you go back and rewatch the Terminator's fight with the punks, that punk he killed, the Terminator actually lifted him up, immediately upon punching him. He didn't reach in, or tear anything out. The Terminator just straight-up punched THROUGH the guy. What Kyle was saying, (in the police station) was that the Terminator would be able to do anything it wanted to kill Sarah, and nobody would be able do anything to stop it.

[@jefferyoetter6884]

I loved your reaction. Great

[@Mantis_Toboggan_MD.]

1:49 - No, Only two Terminator films were ever made

[@davidsavage5630]

One thing I never see comments mention (which means for sure someone did mention it this time and I just missed it) is that that's James Cameron's voice on the answering machine as Sarah's boyfriend or date who cancels on her..

[@CaptainAmercia]

If you want to see more of the "Future War" I highly recommend Terminator Resistance a solid FPS inspired heavily by Terminator 1 from the synth soundtrack to the 80s neon lights etc. Terminator 2 is a great film but I always loved the tone and feel of Terminator 1 slightly more. It's a case of what you prefer I guess similar to how people look a Alien and Aliens two great films with their own directions. There also making a sequel to the Terminator game this time open world and hopefully higher budget as I will admit the first time is limited by it's budget but you can tell it's got the heart and love of the series. The studio are also making a Robocop game as well which I cant recall if you watched so I'll hope off mentioning anything about the game.

[@jamesgilburt1050]

Hi Kaiielle, it's great you've seen this incredible movie and is excellent youll be reacting to Terminator 2 next month :) I can't wait to see both back to back. I love your channel/reactions.

[@kaiielle]

Thank you!

[@jamesgilburt1050]

@@kaiielle you're welcome!

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

20:57 As a teenager, I always thought I would've been terrified the whole time, sleeping under a bridge in the middle of nowhere with a killing machine out there, looking for me!!!!!

[@robertmcintyre1087]

Arnold's lack of acting experience actually helped in this role the wooden delivery aided in his performance as an android. Later he became a better actor.

[@ninjavigilante5311]

Beautiful kaiielle 💛

[@TheWindcrow]

Great reaction and catching on Kaiielle. Doing the review the morning after is awesome. It gives you a chance to marinate in it. Also, there are a couple big actors in the first one that you will see in other movies ( that I won't mention here) lol. Yet, Bill Paxton, Dick Miller and Michael Biehn. You will see them and I can't wait for you to recognize them XD

[@mike12579]

Whats funny is I saw T2 before I saw this one. This is a classic, and its fascinating you were mentioning point of view from Arnold's T-101 character.....there was a Cinema class I was in HIgh School in the 90s that we saw this film for the camera work.

[@tronam]

This was essentially James Cameron's first movie. Not a bad start. I think he may have a promising future.

[@shawnalexander8480]

"Escape from the planet of the Apes" had the same paradox I believe

[@jamesosteen09]

Can't wait for T2 reaction! One of the best sequels ever.

[@GGGritzer]

It was good, not as good as this one though!

[@itubeutubewealltube1]

The original star trek series from the 60's had numerous boot strap time episodes. The most well known would be "the city on the edge of forever" .. The fourth star trek movie in 85 with the original cast from the sixties also had a boot strap time theory as well.

[@seanmurphy637]

Great reaction. Looking forward to the sequel.

[@darrylcarden1851]

Not so much a time loop from what I remember, but “The Time Machine” from 2002 based off the old H. G. Wells novel is a decent sci-fi watch. 😎

[@earendilsenordelamuerte9963]

3:43 He shreded his heart.

[@levenkay4468]

In answer to your question, there are more than two movies, in the sense that the studios were in favor of going back to the money well, but all the plot threads are neatly concluded in the second. Just ignore the others.