The Thing 1982 vs The Thing 2011

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Enjoyed you comparison. I'm hooked. Keep going!!

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[@JDMunoz-ct9xn]

Insightful, and crystalized views I've held for decades. One thing I feel you left out when you went over the characters was The Thing's character. It really was a different beast in 2011 versus 1982.

[@greenman3120]

Good synopsis. Keep em coming I'm subscribed

[@bpt11]

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[@blue8432]

Yeah I’m pretty sure the thing is some kind of orange man

[@panthekirb7561]

Wtf I love the thing now

[@kingkrzes7121]

i cannot fathom how the suits can keep gutting movies at the last minute, nuking the BO performance and then shift blame back onto the original direction

[@wiking793]

I would put more emphasis on how the execs butchered the practical effects and how overall this could have gone way better if they let the artists have it their way. Overall, great video, have a new subscription :)

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[@bpt11]

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[@jcgelato]

This video was fire bro watching from my lonely barracks room in Germany you earned a sub will be looking forward to more content

[@gallery7596]

Good essay. The downbeat ending of the 1982 film is memorable and still inspires interesting debate, but I think it's also one of the reasons "The Thing" flopped. How many people walking out of the theatre back then were thrilled to think that Macready was probably going to freeze to death? I would think very few, so I don't think the blame for the film underperforming can be placed on the release of "ET" as many over the years have suggested. As for the prequel: clearly cg just can't replace the brilliant practical effects work of Bottin and Winston, and the "open your mouth" thing isn't as interesting a method for determining somebody's humanity as Carpenter's amazingly directed blood test sequence. That scene alone, as well as the mayhem in the kennel, make "The Thing" a classic. While the prequel is a nice love letter to that earlier film, it fails to deliver the kind of thrills that worked so well in Carpenter's film. The only aspect that somewhat makes it stand out on it's own was making the main character a woman. That decision, and the ending that catches up to the 1982 film's opening, are all "The Thing" (2011) has that's worth any praise.

[@irasmith3615]

Wow, cool mini documentary. I like movie history. I'll have to tune in for other movies!

[@WilliamKim-v3c]

I was a huge fan of the movie from the word GO. I was lucky enough to have seen it in the theater when it came out.

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[@Autismtrademark]

This is an incredible video, good job!!! It feels professional, keep up the good work dude!!!

[@benzielke7149]

I like how when you watch the 2011 film first it flows perfectly into the 1982 original. Same helicopter even. Too cool.

[@bpt11]

Yeah it is dope it’s probably the coolest part of the movie

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Same here. Just came up today.

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[@admiralhowdy]

This was good. Saw the Carpenter movie in the theater, and was an instant fan. subbed.

[@Fabester71]

Awesome video bro, I agree with you on the elements that make the 82 a really good friken movie. I see John Carpenter as a realistic character too he is one of us a regular dude with his quirks and it shows with the 12 guys in the station just a bunch of dudes in a shitty situation.

[@Raycloud]

I think the biggest problem The Thing 2011 is that it is telling a story that doesn't need to be told. We already know what happened at the Norwegian camp. We saw the burned ruins in the first movie that implied a similar fate awaited the US outpost. Then by the end... we see that has happened. Of-course the Norwegian Camp actually IS the US camp in terms of production. So, this film had an uphill battle. They also cut the film badly, and maybe wrote parts of it badly. The alien in the 2011 movie is a rampaging monster rather than a clever (and cheating) chess master. This was a huge mistake for the writers. Any Thing film needs to be that slow burn; it needs to be a mystery. Of-course, we already had a film like that. A good example of how The Thing 2011 went wrong is how the creature escaped from the ice: it loudly burst out of the block of ice and through the ceiling and went on the attack. It should have been more faithful to the original short story: they start thawing it out and in the morning... it's just gone.

[@bpt11]

Yes this is a perfect take. I definitely don’t think it need to be made in the first place, but I still think it could’ve been done significantly better.

[@iancroft1447]

Good 1st Job & agreed: The Thing(1982) may very well be the Greatest MOVIE of All Time

[@russ254]

@bpt11 - your comments about character make me think of the original Alien movie - These are two of my favorites. I love the way the Alien movie has the fastest and best character development - no exposition, no "remember that time when we" nonsense. Just people doing their jobs. Great insights!

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Although I really like The Thing too, Alien is much higher on my list. It's a great point that the characters and their relationships to each other are established so quickly in Alien.

[@sebastianlozano7707]

I watched The Thing 1982 yesterday, what a movie man! I loved the atmosphere and constant paranoia

[@haydenwinter4191]

Stay tuned for cats at the end✅✅✅

[@odiumgeneris729]

I am convinced that Alex Freed got his idea for the end of Rogue One: A Star Wars story from The Thing (2011).

[@bpt11]

I haven’t seen rogue one before, care to elaborate?

[@odiumgeneris729]

@@bpt11 Well, if you haven't seen it, I'd rather not spoil it (I fear I already have). It's quite fun, friend.

[@jamesabernethy7896]

This just came up for me and it was really well presented. Very succinct and well-edited to get your points across. I love the 1982 movie but never saw the 2011 because of the bad reviews. I don't always trust reviews but I still don't feel like I've missed much. The 1951 version has been coming up quite a bit and the more I see about it the more I actually want to see it. Again, Great video and a new subscriber.

[@businesspig]

I was here for the beta version

[@ZerArt-sd1ir]

When the impostor is suus

[@KyleRDent]

I watched the '82 version for the first time yesterday. It's been on my watchlist for years and I kept forgetting about it. It's as good as you all say, though because I'm a giant wimp I had to watch the gory bits through my fingers 😂

[@jamesabernethy7896]

Although I have a huge DVD and Blu-Ray collection I only got it about 3 months ago. I saw this ages ago on TV but it's been so long I have no idea how much it was edited by. I've only got into what I would call pure horror recently so there are a lot of movies that I am discovering for the first time. I've always seen movies like this and Alien as Sci-fi. Gore generally doesn't bother me because I love watching things on special effects so I can we it for what it is. I can't watch real medical things though.

[@NickTheHick]

Very well done my man. New sub

[@markroff1012]

Great vid, thanks

[@bpt11]

I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@mccpcorn2000]

It's been so long since I watched Thing 2011 that I didn't even realise Carter is played by the same actor who portrays Owen Lars in the SW Prequels and Kenobi. Carter "The Cavaliers are a basketball team. They play basketball." Owen "The same way Anakin played basketball?"

[@diannebdee]

Here's my feeling on the 2011 remake. It was more or less about Americans instead of Norwegians. We got some, but I always took the 1982 version as the bases were completely different nationalities. That is the reason the shooter and helicopter pilot at the beginning couldn't communicate with the American's, thus the reason for Carry shooting the one who wanted to shoot the dog. And of course we had to have a woman as the main character in the 2011 version when in the 1982 it was all men. The whole aspect of the beginning of the 1982 version is that the Norwegians held the secret of what was going on, and unfortunately for Mac's base, those men had to figure it out for themselves. Hence the reason Blair destroyed the communications shack and his destroying Mac's chopper.

[@noone6812]

Good analysis.

[@afterlife_gl2818]

Great video and I agree with you about the prequel. There's nothing much to it and it is quite very forgettable movie. One thing that I think you should have included regarding The Thing from 1982, is the score/soundtrack by Ennio Morricone, because it helped a lot building the suspence of the movie with very few notes and it made the movie a lot scarier. Thanks again for this video.

[@bpt11]

YYYYEEEESSSS the soundtrack is so good I can’t believe I didn’t think to mention that

[@noneed4me2n7]

One of my favorite films. Your thoughts are well put together and interesting. I did like the 2011 and I feel you could see someone gave a crap at some point. The ending could be edited into the older film.

[@Imsoblind-tz7qu]

Best random video clip of the day. I rembember first time watching the 1982 version after the Wall in Berlin falls down. Had to catch up all that western culture stuff. Alone in my first flat at the bottom ( haven't had a couch and so on ) at an old tube television only in black and white modus. It just picked me up emotionally and I slept with the light on afterwards.😱😆The prequel version was just ridiculus, but unfortunately this seems to be increasingly normal. No atmosphere and the behaviour of the protagonists are mostly stereotypical, one-dimensional and psychologically nonsensical. I recommend to try this with the first Alien movie, in black-white modus you more appreciate the H.R.Giger arts... Cannot belief this is your first vid ever, what have you done before?🤔 Very good job!!! And at least your cute cats made my day. You are subscribed and thank you very much! Greatings from (Ex-East) Germany👍

[@bpt11]

Thank you for the kind words! I’ve been working with video and writing for a long time this is just my first time putting them together for the public!

[@Imsoblind-tz7qu]

@@bpt11 Thank you very much for your kind reply, that is not a matter of course. I'm a big film enthusiast, but I don't trust completely my own judgement . Other points of view are interesting. A balanced analysis is very welcome. I hope you make more of them. And cat videos help immensely to reach new follower. Maybe you should try start with this. Just a joke...🤣

[@kingdude1999]

Plus the problem with the 2011 Thing - they're the dumbest bunch of scientists I've ever seen. The whole point of the thing not being able to duplicate metal or any of this kind of ridiculous over simplifying of what the Thing is totally sinks the movie

[@Imsoblind-tz7qu]

@@kingdude1999 Thanks for your excellent point and comment the comment. ☺Sorry the late answer, but I was ill and that affected my translation skills, don't want to embarrass myself, especially when I critizise someone, something, anything... your point is mine. Do they think the viewer are dumber than their foot mates? 🤣🤣🤣A general problem to make it easier for themself not only in the movie industry I presume. Wish you much joy watching movies despite all the criticism. And sometimes a realy trash movie could make mor fun than an endeavours seriously make one.

[@cordellross307]

Good first outing, sir. Keep it up.

[@johnniekight1879]

The original was released in 1951 and James Arness played the thing.

[@ghostlightx9005]

I like both. They make a great double bill. The effects are not as good in the newer one, but I really like the creature design.

[@ThieflyChap]

The Thing 2011 I do actually like. Like you said, it's not a terrible film, it's just not a Thing film. Honestly, my biggest gripe about it, (other than the CG), is there are so many Americans in it. No offence to you Americans, but why would a Norwegian science facility hire a bunch of yanks? I don't recall that ever being explained, and I'm sure Norway has it's own expert palaeontologists and other crew without the need to hire foreigners. The 1982 movie is of course, amazing. One of my favourites.

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[@grumpy-dad3701]

The original thing was awesome. The new thing wasn't too bad either.

[@erikc.2462]

I just couldn't buy the premise that the events of the 2011 film were precursors to the '82 one.

[@alfredthegreat9543]

Could definitely do a follow up with the right script and director. Maybe do it how Aliens was to Alien?

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who else out here bpt'n their 11

[@lakatoszoltan2011]

It's not a cat. It's an imitation.

[@bpt11]

I fear it might be sometimes

[@DiegoRooks]

Those actors all sucked (2011) they acted like tv

[@jamesabernethy7896]

I haven't actually seen the 2011 movie but from what I've seen it seemed very run of the mill in terms of performance. What has suddenly popped into my head is would this make a good TV series? A slightly slower burning single-season of high-production TV.

[@bri55118]

I don't know if carpenter's thing can be a remake of the Hawks film. The 50s version is loosely based on the story, as the 82 is more true on the novel. The 2011 is more of a remake of the 82. I view the 82 version as a new adaptation of the original story as there is little similar to hawks. Same as not all Dracula movies are a remake of the bela lugosi version. My reason for that is they are based on existing works that predate the first movie version. But it depends on what is considered a remake vs a new interpretation.

[@bpt11]

Yeah I agree I honestly dunno if I’d consider the 82 release a remake either myself but I only mentioned it because I see plenty of people online that do consider it one, it’s on many Letterboxd lists of “the best remakes” and stuff like that so I thought it’d be worth mentioning. I guess it is more up to interpretation, I wonder what John Carpenter himself would classify it as.

[@sueflewelling3657]

Great video ps have you heard of the house of the dead

[@bpt11]

I have not, what’s that?

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​@bpt11 it's a arcade on the rail shooter zombie game and it's a really fun series.

[@Chris-hr2uj]

Horror culture 😉

[@stefenjordan968]

You can't even compare to the 82 version is a classic the other version is just a movie

[@daikhairai7194]

you could have the love interest element in the Prequel, and I'd leave it as carter and i would have him die. but I'd take away his Earing. Presuming the time to go down the love interest route, I'd have that as something explored at around the same rate of pace as the duration of time until the Dog Kennel scene of the Carpenter Movie, Give her Just enough time to get to know this man, Maybe they went for a roll or a few who knows, But the important thing is She has enough time to get intimately Familiar with him So that when he has been changed there's no evidence per se but she Feels something is just Off about him. And know i wouldn't have it done like the ending of the prequel, Not in the Ice Trecker not so obviously. There how ever is a MASSIVE problem with the aspect of a Love Interest element and thats Transmission, Its would be a new, and i think TOO FAR, level of Body horror than we're used too.

[@Ryoufriggingserious]

The studio bosses screwed themselves by scrapping all the practical effects so they deserve a movie bomb. I do feel sorry for those who put in all the work and passion, though.

[@bpt11]

The team behind the practical effects actually ran a kick starter to produce their own film after being cut from this one, I think they reused a lot of what they had made but don’t quote me on that I haven’t actually seen it. It’s called “Harbinger Down”, might be worth checking out.

[@gek1915]

You dare comparing a masterpiece to trash?

[@OrangePopAndBirthdayCake]

Duder, imvho u sound approx 25-35 yrs, but Urs Truly here is 54yrs an saw JCTT on debut in '82, transfixed as heck. Rather than *tossing out jus another dull rehash of superior dissections* of both flix, maybe RE-watch the 2011 film as many x as I have, an then ul poss recall the character names, yes! Ur lazy op ed, wherein u decry paper thin characters in 2011, *yet fail to notice the direct comparison to JC's version* misses the point purposely, an this doesn't aid any type of objective analysis. (P. S. The Thing 2011 is *NOT a slasher filum, stop kidding urself!* ) ©️🎥👅🎬™️

[@blue8432]

Freaky ass comment go home

[@fenwar9060]

This is very well done. 👏👏👏 Subscribed.