Ummm, no. The third generation recreated the market.
@FayaOhNo26 күн бұрын
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@BlueEyedVibeChecker24 күн бұрын
In america sure, the NES and Mario saved you from the games crash before Sonic and the Mega Drive showed the world that you didn't need to be Nintendo to be successful. But the games crash didn't hit the rest of us, so the third generation was about as impactful as the third man to land on the moon. The one that really recreated the market was the SEGA CD, sounds ludicrous, but THAT is what inspired Nintendo to make the SNES CD addon which gave us PlayStation, and this went on to bring gaming out of its small niche and into a much bigger market worldwide. From a US standpoint, you're right, but from the rest of the worlds viewpoint, not so much.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
No it was through the out the entire world not just America.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
No, if anything Mario and Nintendo show the world that you don't need atari to be successful and second only showed the world that success can only get you so far and that too much success will need to ridiculous ideas and overconfidence like how Sega did.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
The gaming crash did hit the world, and it was very impactful.
@cabbitkisser262028 күн бұрын
when i was a kid back in the 1980's. i spent countless hours playing the Atari 2600. until the nes came out. the 80's era was the best time for video games
@ministryOFmuff25 күн бұрын
Eh, definitely not lol. Nobody playing Ocarina Of Time, FF7, Resident Evll etc ever went "God, I wish we could rewind time by a decade".
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
No, many people playing ocarina of time, FF7, and resident evil et cetera did go to and went that they could wish that they could rewind time by a decade
@stevenrosscarpenter28 күн бұрын
Commodore 64 doesn't get the recognition it deserves in the Nintendo focused world
@adroharv514028 күн бұрын
The C64 was hugely popular of course in the UK and europe and did very well too in the US so it certainly got it's recognition
@stevenrosscarpenter28 күн бұрын
@@adroharv5140 not these days. Most kids that know the NES, don't know the c64 even though it's roughly the same gen
@adroharv514027 күн бұрын
@@stevenrosscarpenter hmm I'm going by here in the UK where the C64 is particularly known I would say. The Nes was less of a thing over here I recall
@Gamevet27 күн бұрын
@@stevenrosscarpenter People don't realize that the console market crashed in North America, because of the home computer boom. People were buying TRS-80's, Apple II and C-64 computers, instead of console, because they had offered so much more. I didn't buy the NES until 1989, because a good portion of the games on the NES, were ports of 8-bit computer games.
@stevenrosscarpenter27 күн бұрын
@@Gamevet Good point. You could use them for games or for work - like PCs today. My point is that younger retro gamers don't really know anything about the C64. They know about Zelda, Metroid and Mario on NES, but nothing else from the 80s.
@DarDarBinks198628 күн бұрын
To understand the third generation of gaming, you have to understand Nintendo and the Great Video Game Crash of 1983. The crash of '83 was caused by a variety of factors such as market oversaturation, inferior technology, Atari's refusal to credit developers for their work, competition with home computers, shovelware, and other stuff. All that killed the North American video game industry for two years. Nintendo had seen success in arcades with Donkey Kong and Mario Bros., and was even in talks with Atari to sell them the rights to sell the Famicom in North America. But Atari didn't have the money to buy the rights and simply strung Nintendo along. So Nintendo said, "Fuck it, we'll release the Famicom in America ourselves!" Nintendo studied what led to the 1983 game crash and learned how to avoid the mistakes of Atari, Coleco, Mattel, etc. They made the NES look more like a VCR than a video game console. Nintendo knew that the top-loading Japanese Famicom wouldn't sell as it originally was. Remember, this was a time when people thought of video games as a passing fad that went out with a whimper. Hence the front-loading design. They added the 10NES lockout chip to deter the glut of shovelware and porn games that plagued the Atari 2600 and other second-gen consoles.* Ditto creating a cartridge design that nobody but Nintendo could make. The Nintendo Seal of Quality was also used to show that the game was properly tested and worked. During the second generation, nobody tested the games to make sure they were playable and the companies thought that people would buy video games no matter the quality. Not so much during the third generation. The Nintendo Seal of Quality didn't mean that the game worked right 100& of the time, just that it was tested, playable, and would actually read once you turned on the console. Anything else was assumed pirated and "play at your own risk". These moves didn't stop shovelware altogether, though; the NES still has plenty of shovelware and bad games (i.e., anything LJN ever made) even when you factor out the unlicensed games and Taiwanese bootlegs. The worst move Nintendo did? Their exclusivity policy. If a company wanted to make games for Nintendo, they could only make games for them and no one else. It was so monopolistic and crowded out both Sega and Atari. In North America, Nintendo had the market cornered while only a little portion was split between the Master System (which was technologically SUPERIOR to the NES) and 7800. But the release of the NES in North America worked. It breathed new life into America's console market. They had the right game for the task, too: A game about a fat Italian plumber running around a land full of walking mushrooms and anthropomorphic turtles on his quest to rescue a princess from a fire-breathing dragon-turtle. *The 10NES chip has even locked out legit games, giving us that blinking screen. The original Famicom didn't have the chip, making importing Japanese games difficult. Retro gamers who play NES games on original hardware simply cut one of the pins on the 10NES chip to defeat the lockout.
@KitsuneYojimbo27 күн бұрын
Plus, I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I had heard that Nintendo also had advertised the NES in the States as an electronic toy to effectively sneak it into American markets.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
LJN was not a maker of games. They licensed and published games but that was pretty much it, they didn't make games
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
It also killed the worldwide industry 2. Also the master system was not technologically superior to the NES
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
It was not the worst move that Nintendo did, and they needed to do this move because there were so many games there were poor quality and it had people not wanting to buy these games so of course quality control has to be in order. But they didn't stop any of these bad games from coming in coma also there were not a lot of shovelware and bad games on Nintendo there were mostly good games on Nintendo
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
It was not monopolistic
@OperationPhantom26 күн бұрын
NES dominated the US but Europe was much more interested in micros in the eighties. That's probably the major difference in the 3rd generation. As an older gamer, I could not afford a NES in the eighties but was perfectly happy with my Commodore 64 and loads of games on tape and diskette. Another wild thing about this generation is the randomness of system popularity in certain regions. Ever heard of the MSX computers? Well Konami certainly liked this system. It was popular in Spain, the Netherlands, Japan.... not in the US or the UK though.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Europe was not more interested in micros in the 80s. And that is not the major difference in the 3rd generation. Also system popularity is not a wild thing.
@claudiasolomon112327 күн бұрын
Your video's title got my kneejerk reaction & attention you obviously wanted. Well done😂
@Bithe701126 күн бұрын
haha my apologies, i may have been a tiny bit dramatic
@Adino126 күн бұрын
I've been here since 2006 and I've never asked if there is a way I can block an uploader on KZbin, until today.
@Bithe701126 күн бұрын
@@Adino1 I’m pretty sure you can actually but I’m not entirely sure
@CarlHungus-y1t28 күн бұрын
I for one loved the Sega master system. I had both. I think NES was more well known with more popular series like Legend of Zelda and Castlevania, but I still think the master system was overall just as good, but it didn't have quite the library of NES.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
The master system was not overall anywhere good
@CarlHungus-y1t21 күн бұрын
@@firestriker3580 That's your opinion.
@hoagie91127 күн бұрын
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@SandwichGlitch27 күн бұрын
Tbh I really think that... There were neat games on it but the SNES knocked it out of the park... I genuinely think 90% of new titles were meh... And I grew up with a Commodore 128... Which I still think has more to offer 😊
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
The SNES did not knock it out of the park, and no 90% of the new titles were great. Also the commodore 128 does not have anything to offer.
@DLAbaoaqu27 күн бұрын
BAAAAAAAIT!
@Nick-qy3hu27 күн бұрын
I had a friend with, " Rob the Robot ". He said the games sucked. Because of that I've never played Gyromite.
@mainstreetsaint3629 күн бұрын
4th Gen was when they really started hitting the sweet spot. SNES and Genesis/Mega Drive had some of the best looking and playing games.
@Bithe701129 күн бұрын
Especially towards the end of the gen too
@cs871228 күн бұрын
peak gaming 1992-2008
@Bithe701128 күн бұрын
@@cs8712 move that up to 2011 and you’ve got a deal
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Disagree, the 3rd generation was when they really started hitting the sweet spot.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Peak gaming was during 1,985-2,009
@borntoclimb711627 күн бұрын
The consoles from the past are great
@trickytroll299027 күн бұрын
"Oh hi. I'd bet you're wondering what I'm doing with my hair." Yes we are 😅
@Bithe701127 күн бұрын
I really need to sort my hair out haha I just haven’t found the time with work and stuff. I’m gonna dye it at some point
@trickytroll299027 күн бұрын
@@Bithe7011 1, 3 or 5 colors?
@Bithe701126 күн бұрын
@@trickytroll2990 1
@genesisfan02928 күн бұрын
Tea and crumpets suck but you don’t hear me complaining about it!
@Bithe701128 күн бұрын
can't say i particularly disagree. that said a good cup of tea in the winter is gods gift
@FayaOhNo26 күн бұрын
Why would you have crumpets with tea if anything you’d have biscuits
@ministryOFmuff25 күн бұрын
I bet you deliberated on whether you'd go with that or something about teeth.
@FayaOhNo25 күн бұрын
@@ministryOFmuff lmao
@FayaOhNo29 күн бұрын
Omg need me a bbc bridge controller
@Bithe701129 күн бұрын
Why
@FayaOhNo29 күн бұрын
@@Bithe7011 bridge
@sabin9728 күн бұрын
the nes a plethora of good games and a plethora of horribly bad games too. i think the snes, even a with a more limited catalog, is where nintendo exercised the best quality control. so many amazingly good games for the snes. also the snes controller is by far the best. the only modern controller i have which comes close is the wii classic controller, which seems to be based on the snes controller. there is one nes game that i think has the highest replayability rating i could give any game of any console. it's called river city ransom.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Nintendo had mostly great games on the NES.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Many NES games had many replay ability8
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
The NES controller is the best
@sabin9721 күн бұрын
@@firestriker3580 the snes controller was better. 4 additional buttons added a ton functionality. and a rounded design made it much more ergonomic. in fact the controller i use with my emulators is the wii classic controller, which is modeled after the snes controller(but with the additional analog sticks modern controllers have).
@nivekkogrrr885727 күн бұрын
Please remember me bithe when u become famous 😢😢😢😢
@Bithe701127 күн бұрын
How could I ever forget
@SteveBrandon28 күн бұрын
It would haven been nice if you had had an actual Sega Master System game playing for the visuals for the Master System and not Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle, which was a Mega Drive/Genesis game. Some actual Master System games like Wonder Boy III or any of the 8-bit Mickey Mouse Castle of Illusion series games look better than the "next gen" Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle.
@Bithe701128 күн бұрын
I mean it’s in my list to get one tbf but I like finding them in real life instead of ordering online and I’ve never seen one in any shop
@SteveBrandon28 күн бұрын
@@Bithe7011 I didn't mean that you should buy Master System hardware or games considering that Master System games are so easy to emulate that they can easily be played in a modern web browser without any plugins.
@KitsuneYojimbo27 күн бұрын
@SteveBrandon The OG Phantasy Star would also be a recommendation. Since that game was basically Sega's answer to Final Fantasy and was one of the first if not THE first JRPGs to feature a female protagonist, as well as featuring a sci-fi setting.
@SteveBrandon27 күн бұрын
@@KitsuneYojimbo I know, it's great, I've played Phantasy Star many times, I was just limiting my visual recommendations to side-scrolling platformers.
@FayaOhNo26 күн бұрын
@@KitsuneYojimbooh that’s cool
@_Diamond-Dog29 күн бұрын
I had nes , snes, and a megadrive Greed killed gaming
@Bithe701129 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t say it’s dead but it’s definitely affected it yes
@graalcloud28 күн бұрын
Sony killed gaming
@gregorypeck160627 күн бұрын
Lol
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Excuse me? No it didn't. The 3rd generation was the best time for video games and it reshaped the market
@emmagaskell29 күн бұрын
Mm mmm
@Bithe701129 күн бұрын
@@emmagaskell Mm mmm
@Ezyasnos28 күн бұрын
@@Bithe7011 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp6op6uprNNnf7s
@cginclude28 күн бұрын
@@Bithe7011 mm mmm
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
No and you guys are completely wrong
@FayaOhNo29 күн бұрын
Games these days fr
@Bithe701129 күн бұрын
Fr fr
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Nope, games back then in the 80s are way better
@FayaOhNo21 күн бұрын
@@firestriker3580 I ain’t ask
@Ezek8627 күн бұрын
If you were born in the 80s the Nintendo was actually a great console, master system and the rest not so much
@stuffandnonsense852827 күн бұрын
I'm guessing you're not British.
@Bithe701127 күн бұрын
@stuffandnonsense8528 no I am
@stuffandnonsense852827 күн бұрын
@@Bithe7011 Sega was enormously popular in the UK. The overwhelmimg dominance of Nintendo was a very American phenomenon. If you were born in the 80s in the UK there's no way you could have missed that, unless you existed in a strange Nintendo bubble. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Nintendo fan, but I was always conscious of being a bit of an outlier, and, of course, I had Sega too.
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Sega was not enormously popular in the UK as much as Nintendo was. Also the dominance of Nintendo was not an American phenomenon, it was a worldwide phenomenon. If you were born in the 80s in the UK, you wouldn't miss Nintendo. Also there was no strange Nintendo. Also also you being conscious it doesn't make any sense and it was never an outlier in either way
@stuffandnonsense852821 күн бұрын
@@firestriker3580 in the UK the SNES sold 1,050,000 units by 1994, Sega Megadrive released in 1990 too, had sold 3 million units by 1996. I am well aware of Nintendo's global dominance, largely thanks to the American Market, but that was not the case everywhere and Sega gave them a run for their money in the UK for a good long while. The Master system also narrowly out sold the NES. I had both Sega and Nintendo machines as a child but my claim was not solely based on personal anecdote.
@Smo2i27 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie, I agree, I've never got into a nes game
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Nope many people disagree with this dude
@Smo2i21 күн бұрын
@@firestriker3580 people who grew up with it the TurboGrafx is cooler, or the master system even has better colours
@Nick-qy3hu27 күн бұрын
Mario 1 sucks. Marioe 3 was the Apex. 🙂
@Adino126 күн бұрын
SMW imo
@firestriker358021 күн бұрын
Shut up dude, Mario 1 does not sucks and Mario 3 was not the apex pk
@enilenis28 күн бұрын
Games had a purpose, back when people were afraid of computers and didn't understand them. Games offered a safe way to explore these strange new digital devices. And now, everyone grows up surrounded by electronic gear. Games have partially depleted their utility in a world, where nobody fears computers anymore. It's still a way to blow off steam and challenge others, but that gets boring eventually. As you age, the value of your time grows and at some point you realize that what you get out of games is never worth the time wasted playing them. All you do is piss your life away with no payoff whatsoever. If you're buying games, you're paying to make yourself stupid.
@CC-od8dj28 күн бұрын
What on earth are you yapping about
@kyoai27 күн бұрын
"All you do is piss your life away with no payoff whatsoever." Says the person having a KZbin channel with over 600 nonsense videos.
@flexmasterize21 күн бұрын
So uh, if not games, what is it that made you so fucking stupid then