The three level rule applied to mixing electronics and live drums | Making the album Ep.2

In which I show the process of writing the third track of my new album, collaborate with drummer Maysun Music ( / etiennemason ) and show how I approach mixing live drums and electronics. Watch part 1: • Why I have to make an ...
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[@JaredNichols909]

@heinbach Where can I purchase the finished track?

[@Hainbach]

you can get it in a few minutes if you subscribe to patreon.com/hainbach on the music tier, or wait until the whole album is out in a few weeks.

[@adamcarter6013]

@@HainbachAny chance of the album being released on Vinyl? I've really enjoyed Gestures in that format.

[@Hainbach]

I would have to start a qrates for that. Should I?

[@TwinCityShredder]

@@Hainbach I second that. I was fortunate to get a copy of Impulsegenerator, and it's the only record I own where I can say to someone "You've got to hear this".

[@aidanfuge2108]

@@Hainbach I own 2 qrates records and they're alright, but they do lack something. At least on the ones that I have, they sound very digital, and there are certain aspects like the plain sleeve and side labels that make them feel a bit cheaper than most of my other records. If there's any possibility of you doing a tape run, I would absolutely love to have one, but if that is off the table than I would still buy a release on qrates. Love from Scotland

[@sleepisoptional]

12:07 hainback’s simple mixing rule: 3 levels. spaced 6dB apart -6 kick, snare, voice -12 bass, gtrs, piano, mid instruments -18 ear candy, atmosphere

[@noahrubin7680]

Tyty

[@JohnD809]

I know this is three years late but I'm just saying the snare that almost sound like it's reversed inspired a song I'm making right now. The entire piece, especially the drums, is wonderful. Possibly my favorite Hainbach song and it was fun to see how it was made.

[@wketchin]

You're legit the Bob Ross of electronic music. You're so relaxing to me :)

[@AM-ui9mc]

The only difference is that hainbach makes art

[@the_psychedelic_lucario]

@@AM-ui9mc 🤣

[@scramblesthedeathdealer]

@@AM-ui9mc I hope you're just being sarcastic, Bob Ross made beautiful artwork, and inspired millions of people to try and enjoy art. A Bob Ross and Hainbach audiovisual collaboration would have been awesome, but their voices together might have been far too calming for any mere mortal.

[@AM-ui9mc]

Well I don’t dismiss Ross as a wonderful person, tv-host and craftsman. His artistry was in that of leading a successful tv-show. His paintings were just the same script running over and over. There is nothing about his method, process or end result I’d call artistic or masterful. Haibach is creative, innovative, constantly developing his process and has a large variety of ideas and concepts. What they do have in common is that they’re great hosts!

[@scramblesthedeathdealer]

@@AM-ui9mc He was a top notch host. To me at least, he made some beautiful paintings. They captured common, everyday landscapes and scenes, and he was masterful at breaking things down into simple to follow instructions for any skill level. I'm still amazed he was able to consistently produce art this quickly, yet uniquely. I love his paintings, they give me a sense of peace and comfort, and I always find them to be visually appealing. I know he didn't invent the technique that he is famous for, but just thinking of his shows makes me want to go pick up some oil paints and a bottle of toluene (as a paint thinner/recreational activity), especially since I just found a brand new set of paint brushes on my counter.

[@JohannesLabusch]

Wow, I love this guy's drumming. It's always a pleasure to watch a drummer who's tight and loose at the same time ... so elegant.

[@teresacarvalho4504]

Right - so sweet

[@badboychopsticks]

I'm Heinback, good to have you bach.

[@krowus3833]

Hi

[@Caspius]

Hi i'm Haveback. It's good to Hain you bach.

[@badboychopsticks]

@@Caspius damnnn

[@RobFlaxMusic]

@@Caspius Hi I'm Goodbach It's Have to Hein you back.

[@orangewiggler6838]

Bey, this was Heinhach....

[@kassemir]

Most people at the campfire: Wonderwall on acoustic guitar. Hainbach at the campfire: Let's do a synth jam.

[@newtronix]

Oasis can eat Hainbach's shorts!

[@apoplexiamusic]

thank you for reminding people that electronic music isn't about the number of tracks or plugins you have working in your track. it's all about the world you create within the track :)

[@chrisbliss7130]

I truly love the fact that you are always striving for purpose, emotion and texture in your music. this sets it apart from all these plastic sounds in electronic music. I could feel this, when I saw you playing live and one can feel this even in your videos.

[@jasonhoffman6642]

I want to be as kind, thoughtful, artful, and gentle of a person as Hainbach appears to be in his videos. Thank you for your inspiration and constancy!

[@scramblesthedeathdealer]

I heard that he kicks puppies and litters when the camera is off. Not really, he seems to be a genuinely good dude.

[@ContentsMayDiffer]

The Syntrx is just instant Harmonia. Really liking this project.

[@bricelory9534]

I feel you are perfectly suited for long-form content of your music-creation process. I really love and appreciate this!

[@goldenstarmusic1689]

Seriously stoked for this album, awesome breakdown! It's neat how familiar your mixing approach is, and how absolutely beautiful and massive this track sounded.

[@arachnenet2244]

So awesome to see how my favourite track of yours was created. Landstraße 2020 is beautiful and it gets me in such a good modd everytime!

[@AaronWelchMusic]

This piece is beautiful, both uplifting and sad simultaneously, very fitting for these uncertain times.

[@EleniEliades_]

Wonders! Song has a unique cinematic quality about it. An overall sense of having the strength, mental as well as physical, to overcome obstacles. It's the tenderness of strength. So pleased you asked Maysun to play Drums on your music track - such a creative Percussionist/Musician. I've been following Maysun for a while and find what he creates fascinatingly brilliant. Just as your works are so amazing and your songs /Soundscapes are wonderfully filled with emotion, I new one day the two of you would meet up and create incredible Soundscapes together and here we are. Lovely. . .💥🎹🐾🔥💡🌟

[@TheNoiseFloorav]

As a fellow WR-S4424 owner/user, I'll watch every time I see one of your videos. Recognized it immediately in the cover photo.

[@thevoidinclusive]

@Hainbach it’s such a generous and beautiful thing you’re doing! After learning so much from you, I’m glad to finally be a patron. Can’t wait for more! I love the direction this album is going... 💙🌞💙

[@Atticusmeh]

Maysun deserves all the noise, such a great musician!

[@kabood777]

Hainbach, I have listened to it maybe five or six times today, it really has a very shiny sparkle of hope in it, thank you :)

[@jacobclayton4828]

purple hamid I just listened to this for the fifth time today, and I couldn’t agree with you more! Though instead of a “shiny sparkle”, I would rather say “glowing supernova”, but that’s just me! 8^)

[@ninjaxhayabusa]

Great to see some love for Harmonia/Cluster! Absolute legends.

[@totalbrainfail1812]

Thank you so much for the entertainment during my isolation! Your music is so beautiful!

[@parquevideo]

Oh what a fantastic track (and video), @hainbach! Canʼt wait to see/hear more of that style!

[@chelidonframe]

Is nice to take a glimpse in your production flow, thanks! (And the piece sounded amazing!)

[@katoyelovni]

Maysun is an amazing musician! I had this track I wasn't happy with the drums, sent it to him and he saved it.

[@iskandertime747]

"Everyone knows when the drums suck". That's really true!

[@Lagrange_Point_6]

I like this. Well done.

[@alejandromontanez2977]

I've started making my new album together with you trying to keep the same spirit, and I'm glad I'm finally doing instead of thinking about how to do.

[@stefan1024]

Nice, like a study group!

[@ffz8262]

Hey that Juno melody with the synthi and the FX was so moving. Looking forward to the album!

[@h2o1969]

Always like your content, but I’m loving this series. Really interesting how you programmed the syntrx. This episode has inspired me to try some new stuff. Looking forward to the next episode. Stay well Hainbach.

[@arandomthought199]

Absolutely beautiful from what you’ve been allowing us to see!

[@AM-ui9mc]

Omg, producer knowledge from the man himself!

[@smacksalad]

As usual, a stunning bit of Susan. The acts you name checked near the start of the video is music I really like, and I think you achieved your aim admirably. Thanks for sharing your process, sir.

[@paulbeattie1717]

Hi! Really liked this style of video. The breaking down and explaining of your process is very interesting. For me, i really would like the drums to stop during the bit before we reach the little island, but still kick back in in the same way they do! Its still a great track tho. But the island bit was soooooo lovely when it all felt like it might be the end of the song. Many thanks. Looking forward to the next.

[@markus_knoedel]

This is so cool. Physical distancing - social connecting.

[@sudbenzer6603]

Thank you guys! Really enjoyed watching! Would be nice to see more of processing tips :)

[@wesleypeak2604]

This one was truly inspiring and gave me some great ideas! Really great work! I love the track too. It really captures the old Krautrock influence.

[@SteveSatori]

Gonna do the -6db trick next time I do a mix for sure. Thank you for the tips!

[@Hainbach]

It’s really such a good platform to go further from.

[@zardac99]

@@Hainbach , where did you first come across it? Do you have any other tips on how to use the 'rule of threes' with mixing? a quick google shows a bunch of stuff about composition and arranging, but not mixing levels..

[@Hainbach]

I learned that from Tobias Levin, German producer who in turn learned it from the guy who mixed all the bigger indie Rockbands at the time. Stoically watching the meter, adhering to the rule, the eq/comp/fx done really fast. Can put in more mixing tips in this series.

[@SteveSatori]

@@Hainbach More mixing tips would be a godsend. My hearing has issues with fatigue when doing long mixes, so any tricks with presetting and rules applied as a template, would help me a lot. I just did a fast -6db test on one of the projects I'd like to finish, and I can already feel a big change - not just in the audio, but mentally also being able to pick and choose elements with greater ease.

[@anassk8]

OP1 is the catalyser for me, made me discover both of you some years ago.. ! Amazed to see you both converge in this project :D wow

[@Rompler_Rocco]

Just stopped for the night recording some drums for my own project, and found this hugely inspirational, and thoroughly enjoyable. Beautiful collaboration, guys 👍👍👍

[@fripp4999]

Amazing track! So light and uplifting. Also, love the slippers :)

[@AlexisAndre]

This is wonderful. I needed the "hope".

[@MikkelGrumBovin]

Hainback, you're music is phantastick, and all I will say is... START the tune at 18:40, and play out from there, that piece got EVERYTHING that I see as defining who you are as a musician, human being, the whole LOT, and it REALLY kicks butt,, when that explosion comes, I'm sure you know exactly what I'm only ' about... Its a MASTERPIECE !

[@uweschnitzler9551]

amazing collab! I really enjoy the "making an album" series !!

[@barbeverte5632]

Thank you hainbach for making me discover maysun. Of course he deserve to be giganticly known! Hope for him it's going to come 😉

[@dman030]

turned out really nice guys. the drums gave it the right touch. nice to see collabs online. this is getting me motivated again too. :-)

[@jacobclayton4828]

dman030 Same here!

[@NicStage]

That feedback from the speakers and reverb is kinda nice, though too. :)

[@couleurves]

Awrsome! Always nice to see some familiar faces on here! Love the track.

[@tiadiad]

Nothing better than a combination of live drums and synthesis.

[@bleeooptv]

wow I didn't even know about Maysun and I'm already a fan. Great groove and amazing sound

[@AndersWeijnitz]

Incredible track and great mixing tips!

[@tonoormusic]

I love this song, it's beautiful mournful uplifting.

[@quelgianchecercavi]

0:54 'cause yes, it's well known that campfires are the best grooveboxes to pair with droning synths

[@mesastreatexit]

get out the Field Kit with heat sensor attachment! ;-)

[@pawnotdaw4559]

Wow thanks for that. Really enjoyed it. Loving the Harmonia/Neu vibes.

[@rickway2419]

Dude that fucking sound texture at about 7:50 is un-fucking believable. It's like a majestic bird flying into the sunrise over snow covered peaks

[@rrrobart9]

Thanks for doing what you do! I love this stuff. So much relaxing fun while waiting for my kid to fall asleep👏🙏👍.

[@captlionpants]

i loooooove the little bells and chimes on the drum kit!! i love all the weird interesting stuff drummers put in their rig

[@sorr0we]

„I really like this island“ :)

[@alon622]

Music full of hope for our current times, great job! :)

[@mixolydian2010]

Cool thanks for heads up about harmonia, they somehow passed me by,they were hard to find. More funny as I love neu and Faust,my favourite music. Cheers

[@TotallyFictional]

So great to hear two of my favorite musicians collaborate.

[@MM-ib6qh]

I appreciate all of this very much. I've learned a lot. Thanks for sharing.

[@Nomo_Popo]

I love the low end snap on that snare, but the overall general drum mix sounds great. That's not something I focus on when listening to music; it stands out.

[@eikarumba429]

Lovely composition - exactly my style 👍🏻

[@garygood369]

Great work, good sir! What a lovely synth that box is! Also, as always, LOVE your music 🎶 so inspirational.

[@ELEKTROGOWK]

Sehr geil!!! Genau mein Geschmack!!!

[@matthewchism3733]

I needed this today. Thank you.

[@HarryFullerCT]

With stuff like this, the virus doesn't stand a chance. Thanks Hainbach and Maysun.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I will always remember Hans Zimmer's tip. If you ever encounter a rule, go break it. The mix sounds very deep and tasteful but I feel the dynamics are lost a bit. Wow, that drums sounds awesome especially the cymbals. The hat is too dry compared to the rest of the instruments, like it's ripped apart in space where the individual drum elements are miles apart. It's small and huge at the same time. But what the hell do I know :). Excellent track.

[@taubung2246]

Syntrx has the most beautiful interface. Its like an old sportcar

[@danjwalker]

I took some Syntrx last night for my stomach ache. Really soothing.

[@stefan1024]

Thank you for the mixing template, I'll try that next time.

[@SynthesizerSauce]

Awesome stuff once again! Inspired!

[@TravellingSynths]

Can't wait for the next one! Really insightful 🙌

[@knfld]

top marks on the vectrex sat at the top lol great video as always

[@fjalermusic4998]

great as always! thanks so much

[@zerotransversal]

8:02 I like that island, too! Hope, indeed!

[@thamelmusic]

What a great episode 2 !

[@Jefflantern483]

Great tune at the end! Landstrasse 2020! Have the song too! 🙂🙂🎧🎧

[@dawlessstrolling5306]

Thank you for taking the time for this little storyline. It gave me some peace in a restless mood. I really liked feeling connectivity and something humane in the tones of this piece. Enjoyed it with a smile. And recognition, 'cause it's shared fun watching others expressing themselves through the immense possibilities of electronic music. Bravo! Greetings from the Netherlands. Ps don't know if you have space for that, but would love to share my quarantaine-quest-in-music, you mentioned there is a place for that online? Pps the 4th track, full of the lovely & wild Perfourmer, will have a video i'm happily challenging myself to make :)

[@Hainbach]

Check out reddit.com/r/Hainbach - post a text to your music and talk about the why and how

[@Jaskinmusic]

Great Track! Enjoyed a lot!

[@LittleAmbientMachine]

Love this, great song and video!

[@odinmp5]

Amazing track.

[@trevorcrawford1]

This was really helpful!

[@Datacustic]

...... STUNNING!

[@someobscuremusic2553]

That multiband compressor on the drums is super tasty

[@patrickconnelly2904]

Had to laugh to myself, I was just about to say multiband compressor right when you said, multiband compressor, so I am learning! I also like Izotope's tube modeled compressor. Oh, and to show my age, I started with the Cool Edit digital four-tracker after learning on a Yamaha four-tracker tape machine, which you inspired me to use again.

[@lunarlight1]

another excellent video - the track has a great feel.. thank you :)

[@elijahemerson92]

Really beautiful track. Is that an image of an island I spy on your computer screen when you're talking about the beautiful island?

[@Hainbach]

That is still the stock Catalina picture

[@lejee_]

Amazing break

[@ipassenger]

Great this, nailed that Krautrock sound too. Cheers.

[@mitlaufer4798]

8:09 Pure Pride and Joy on your face :)

[@maquettemusic1623]

"He will do his own thing with it, else why would I ask a musician" Yes! this is so crucial, people don't understand that a musicians talent lies as much in their ideas and composition as much as it does their technical playing.

[@edgeeffect]

Excellent track.... you and Mason have come up with a great one there.... this is going to be a GREAT album.... I'm already poised at Bandcamp. ;) Cluster were great, no doubt.... but if there had been a little more Harmonia, that would have been SO good.

[@krowus3833]

This end is amazing!

[@nikolaifuglsang4067]

Yes, I synth jam around the campfire all the time. Who doesn't?

[@LarcTald]

Nice nice nice !! I wonder what is the red box with a VU meter...

[@louisservet7931]

Beautiful work ! Thanks :)

[@mesastreatexit]

Hainbach is the goodest boy

[@MartinDoudoroffLLC]

Great video, and lovely track!