The Thrones to be used at the 2023 Coronation

[@Bernaren60]

Not only is the king recycling but he's also making use of the traditional crafts he was so interested in conserving

[@allanbarton]

He is, it is rather wonderful.

[@margaretmclennan5169]

These are hystoric and traditional coronation furniture and are always used except they will need refurbishing by skilled upholsterers

[@Bernaren60]

No I think like the robes they usually use new ones

[@sweptashore]

It's funny to think that the younger Charles was regarded as stodgy and a bit peculiar for being so interested in preservation, sustainability, etc. His passions (and, I'm guessing, the wise input of senior advisers) are now serving him well -- preserve/restore, spend wisely, showcase the artisans, make the ceremony inclusive, embrace his mother's legacy.

[@almatirkey7748]

Our sustainable King 👑

[@gingerninjawhinger9986]

The work that these craftsmen and craftswomen have put into the two thrones is phenomenal and, thank you, Allan, for highlighting their skills before the thrones are officially 'unveiled' on Saturday. I do find it interesting to note the omission of the Garter on both thrones.

[@Emmit1010]

All the rich history is incredible. I’m an American and love to learn the history. That’s not covered in the mass media over here. They wouldn’t even think to cover the small details that play such a large part in history. Thank you .

[@keithdavies6316]

Beautiful chairs yes one can recycle & Re upholster chairs & they will look as good as new

[@williamfurtkevic8644]

I almost dread watching mainstream "media" coverage of the coronation - especially here in the U.S. I am positive that none of the networks or tele shows will showcase the insight, historical significance, tradition and knowledge that you have wonderfully demonstrated and continue to demonstrate in your content. I do wonder what source will be best to view to receive the expert commentary and insight that we enjoy from antiquarians such as yourself. Early congratulations on the continuity of the Crown and I do hope the event unites and inspires as only history can as it comes to life in front of our very eyes.

[@notinmanitou]

Thank you so much for the series of coronation history. I was born 2 years after Elizabeth II was crowned, so all this is new, and being American, I wasn't taught any of this in school. It's wonderful that they are giving these artisans work in refurbishing the old things.

[@allanbarton]

It's important to keep the skills and crafts involved alive, isn't it! We're not taught these aspects of cultural history here in the UK either sadly, but thankfully enough importance was attached by some to the matter in the past for records and books to be created, if you go looking! It's wonderful that my bringing these things to the light of day is so well appreciated!

[@brucerussell6849]

The 1936 X chairs were also copies of the 1911 coronation chairs made by Morris & Co. still in the Royal collection.

[@allanbarton]

It is all wonderfully traditional. I like these x-framed chairs - the thrones of previous reigns were ugly.

[@SevCaswell]

@@allanbarton I am curious is 'x-framed' the proper traditional descriptor? I have usually seen chairs of such form described as 'Romanesque' or 'Roman style'.

[@allanbarton]

Cross-legged or x-framed is the usual way they are described in the literature. They essentially a 16th century design, but based on Roman campaign chairs.

[@SevCaswell]

@@allanbarton Thanks!

[@simonbelcher]

It looks like the carved cyphers for Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip in the band between the front legs of each Chair of Estate are staying put.

[@allanbarton]

It does, which is a really nice touch.

[@norrieblackeby1041]

Yet another interesting video. I wish you could show more photos of the refurbishment. I applaud all the detailed work of artisans a craftspeople. The King appreciates traditional art and conservation.

[@Oldsmobile69]

Really like these quick videos and the little details. Awesome job and also very interesting what KC3 is doing.

[@johnweddel687]

I read recently that the chairs (including St Edward's) becomes a a throne when it is elevated above the floor level.... thus the steps up to the chair. Supposedly, that is where the term "elevated to the throne" came from.

[@allanbarton]

I have a video all about when a chair is a throne, it does indeed have to be raised.

[@maggiecate1]

The ladies from the Royal School of Needlework will be cracking open a big bottle of wine on Saturday - they must have been working overtime!

[@Wosiewose]

If they aren't called upon for last-minute repairs! I remember reading somewhere that on Elizabeth's wedding day to Philip, her tiara broke that morning and they had to have emergency repairs done on it!

[@SafetySpooon]

@@Wosiewose Someone had to race to the jewelers & back - & you can see that a patch job was done; there's a tiny awkward gap in the front, if you know where to look.

[@YrnehLrak]

Allan, I would never know these details without your vids. Thank you, it will bring value to watching the coronation.

[@allanbarton]

My pleasure, glad you're finding the videos informative!

[@annettewillis2797]

The amount of thought and detailed work that has gone into all the objects to be used at the coronation is extraordinary. It is so good that the skills in the various trades have not been lost. The Royal School of Embroidery is truly a wonder! Thanks as always Allan. All your documentaries are so informative.

[@UmvimvaniT]

Thanks for all these little gems. Watching them during the week so I will know what's happening. Wonderful work as always, Allan Barton.

[@allanbarton]

Glad you appreciate it, thanks for watching!

[@williamevans9426]

I note that, although the embroidered cyphers have been replaced with the covers, the initials E and P remain part of the lower section of the frame and, presumably, these carved sections aren't being modified.

[@BookOfFaustus]

Can't wait to see the first coronation of the 21st century, in full color and 4K.

[@pixbychris3182]

Lovely video Allan thank you. Happy to hear Suffolk mentioned regarding the silk. Sudbury, where I live, is an old silk weaving town. Indeed a piece of the silk hangings from the Late Queens coronation is displayed in Long Melford church.

[@allanbarton]

The quality of those textiles is incredible. I have two sizeable pieces of the fabric that covered the stands at the coronation of 1937. Beautiful stuff.

[@a.t.c.3862]

Thanks for the updates🙏

[@ludovica8221]

Wonderful that these small, specialist artisan firms are getting a boost. Who knows what other commissions might come their way now people will hear about them. (I am looking at you, "Chateau-verse" You Tubers!)

[@allanbarton]

It is wonderful, the king has been a great supporter of craft and he is giving them a real boost.

[@parkerbrown-nesbit1747]

​​@@allanbarton as a craftsperson myself (I'm a spinner/weaver/dyer), I really appreciate Charles' championing of them.

[@justinwilliams7290]

They certainly milk enough coins from patreon to be able to afford such extravagant purchases! Why not have a throne made!

[@ludovica8221]

@@justinwilliams7290 🤣🤣

[@cactusrandomfred1]

I like how the cyphers of the late Queen and Prince Philip are retained in the ornamental woodwork near the feet. A little nod to their original owners. Fun fact: Prince Philip's chair of estate was not actually used at the coronation in 1953. He used a chair like the other royal Dukes with his arms embroidered on it. They made his chair of estate later to match the Queen's when they were placed side by side in the throne room at Buckingham Palace.

[@allanbarton]

That is a delightful touch I thought - I am pleased these chairs have been chosen, they are very visually an aesthetically pleasing. I realised once I'd finished the video that is the 1958 for Philip. Oh dear, I wish sometimes my brain was a little more like an encyclopedia, but there is so much going on this week!

[@gerardacronin334]

I was very surprised to find that some distant relative of mine is reupholstering the chairs of estate. Our family is Irish.

[@SafetySpooon]

SO WONDERFUL that C3 is using his beloved mother & grandparents chairs/thrones!!!!

[@caro-uk]

Really interesting, as always, thank you🙂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@adrianwillis2875]

Fascinating, it’s great the way you are pulling together the published information into an easily understood video.. thanks

[@allanbarton]

My pleasure, glad you appreciate it!

[@puppy1584]

Your uploads…so very interesting. Thank you for posting. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@allanbarton]

Glad you're enjoying them, thanks for watching!

[@ChrisDonnelly-w7l]

Another excellent video Thank You.

[@allanbarton]

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

[@stepps511]

Thank you, Allan! I feel totally "informed" through your channel, at least in as much as the information is available. You are very much appreciated.

[@allanbarton]

Thank you very much indeed - your continued support is very much appreciated too.

[@lilbatz]

This channel is such a treat. Thank you for the information. 💕😍

[@rsc9520]

Allan, I have been watching your Coronation videos as well as the other ones dealing with church architecture and iconography. All are VERY Interesting. YOU ARE THE BEST!

[@allanbarton]

@@lilbatz thank you.

[@allanbarton]

@@rsc9520 thank you very much indeed.

[@Anubis81]

I always liked these thrones. They remind me of the Ancient Roman Curule faldstools

[@allanbarton]

That are essentially a 16th century version of them. They are wonderful.

[@ChrisDonnelly-w7l]

​@@allanbarton they also have liturgical meaning as a Fauldstol was used by a visiting Bishop or Cardinal when saying Mass.

[@tsnmjnsr6742]

I was partly hoping for new pair of chairs/thrones with modern design to be made but this is also a sensible option for the coronation.

[@michaeljames9882]

I am all for the reuse of items BUT in the context of these artefacts I wish they had kept the originals for display and conservation and had new ones made for the upcoming coronation. I can picture an exhibition at St. James's Palace covering a lot of the regalia from each of the last five or six coronations (William IV, Victoria, Edward VII, George V, George VI, Elizabeth II, and Charles III) in the lead up to William V's coronation. IDK. That is just the history lover in me. 👑

[@SafetySpooon]

I can see your point, but, if the chairs are preserved & the covering is preserved, then a display of them together would not only serve the pur[pose, but also speak to the continuation of the monarchy *&* highlight the virtue of recycling.

[@mariasmargiassi1983]

You do a wonderful job! Thank you.

[@allanbarton]

My pleasure, glad you appreciate the series!

[@kathydrewry1552]

The talents of these artisans are amazing. Thank you for these details

[@allanbarton]

We must keep these skills and crafts alive in our culture! Glad you enjoyed the video 😊

[@chiron14pl]

The comment on your book on previous coronations triggered a memory of some coronation kitch from QEII that I treasure. My NZ grandparents sent me a set of stiff paper cutouts of key parts of the coronation. The State Coach w horses, several lines of guardsmen of horse and foot, and the yeomen. I enjoyed playing with them. They were done by a newspaper as a special bonus for the children. I wonder if something similar happened in UK?

[@jpr455]

I love watching this videos highlighting the details of the work needed to make the Coronation happen. Thank you for making them. Its really good to know that the Royal Household are using so many traditional British craftsmen to do the work. I just feel sorry for these firms that must have been juggling their existing order books with the rush order to prepare for the Coronation. Especially the Royal School of Needlework. They must have been rushed off their feet with all the new embroideries and robes they have had to produce at short notice. Do you know if the Royal School was responsible for the new standards and ensigns that were presented by the King last week to units of the armed forces as well?

[@lsmith9249]

The new colours could have been made by Hobson's in London and some things could have started being made before our late Queen died

[@nickimontie]

Stunning craftwork!

[@leemackie8434]

Wonderful to see the craftsmanship in these objects and the crafts of old being used and supported. The Coronation is giving employment in areas we never hear about.💕💗🇦🇺👏💗💕👏👏👏👏

[@kleinbrynbaranfrande]

Waited for this all day

[@robnewman6101]

Wow.

[@graphiquejack]

This all looks so beautifully designed and made.

[@adrianwillis2875]

Given we know HM is romantic and sentimental it makes sense he should use his mama’s chair of estate and his grandpa’s throne chair.. it gives him connection and continuity.. x

[@Farrah300]

I am so looking forward to this splendid event.

[@islandhome3]

Are there photos of the sides and/or interior of the Anointing Screen?

[@allanbarton]

Not that I have found.

[@AI-hx3fx]

Only thing they cannot remove from the Sovereign and Consort's thrones are the late Queen and Prince Philip's initials at the bottom. I suppose Their Majesties won't mind that last remaining touch.

[@allanbarton]

No they can't, which leaves a wonderful link to his parents.

[@ianport2185]

Prince Philip wasn't a Prince of the United Kingdom at the time of the coronation & didn't use the Chair of Estate with his cypher as shown: he like the other royal dukes used an 'x' frame chair. I think Prince Philip's was made when the Queen made him a Prince in the late '50s and added to the Buckingham Palace throne room. Another marvellous video btw!

[@allanbarton]

I think you are absolutely correct, thanks for that.

[@ianport2185]

Am honoured to be of help although I won't be swearing allegiance to you or indeed anyone else!

[@allanbarton]

@@ianport2185 no neither will I, that aspect of things is bizarre and I think misguided.

[@ianport2185]

@@allanbarton - the 'People's Homage' has so many issues that do indeed make it bizarre: 1) the text is a rehash of the Oath of Allegiance, not a form of homage. 2) 'homage' can only be done in respect of a benefit - peers and bishops accrue benefit in a feudal sense because they're peers or bishops - a tangible benefit, even now (although in the case of peers not now thought necessary...) 3) On the other hand if you're born 🇬🇧 (or a citizen of a Commonwealth Realm) you're born into allegiance to the monarch & no further Oath is required unless a person wishes to become 🇬🇧 or takes up a specific office like that of Member of Parliament, where an overt expression of allegiance in the operation of that office is advisable. 4) it's embarrassing to say stuff like this - the last time I promised anything to the monarch was when I promised 'to do my duty to God and The Queen' in 1977 as a Cub Scout. 5) it's an own goal - feels like a referendum on the monarchy in particular & His Majesty in particular. The King is a good man and I support him and Queen Camilla and the monarchy, but I get the feeling Queen Elizabeth II would've found a way to thwart the Government and I suspect the Archbishop who tendered such bad 'advice'. I'm angry about this - it's psychologically dangerous and can be seen as a referendum and we all know how divisive to referendums can be! Very happy to say the words 'God Save The King' btw: my choice entirely. Sorry for the rant!

[@allanbarton]

@@ianport2185 I agree on every point.

[@Shalott63]

Thank you for this - it's good to see that the old chairs are being used in this way; not only in the negative way that money is not being wasted unnecessarily on making completely new ones, but also in the positive ways that the old chairs are being given a new lease of life instead of just mouldering away, and also various crafts are being given a place in the coronation. BTW Please may I ask what (if anything) these chairs have been used for in the time since they were used at their coronations? By the look especially of the 1937 ones they have certainly been used quite a lot!

[@Shalott63]

Ooops! I've just found out the answer to my own question. I thought they looked pretty familiar, and I've just found a fairly recent picture of the throne room at Buckingham Palace, with all four chairs present - the 1953 ones on the dais and the 1937 ones (which presumably were on the dais until 1953) moved over to the side.

[@Shalott63]

PS With the 1937 chairs of estate there too!

[@pamelamorgan7354]

Very interesting videos. Thank you. 👑

[@allanbarton]

Glad you're enjoying them, thanks for watching!

[@momto4beans]

The estate chairs will still hold their previous owners names. On the front below the seat there's an "E" with the "R" facing both directions, or the dual "P" looking like a pair of swords. I love that this was kept and not replaced.

[@allanbarton]

It's a nice touch.

[@floydiandreamscapes5145]

I'm American and I find English history so interesting. I watch mostly British television now as well, mostly murder mysterys set in English villages. Father Brown, Agatha Raisin and Poirot are my favorites.

[@marthavanbeek-putters]

Thank you so very much for all your explanations! I will never forget 6 May 2023 not only of the coronation but it is also my birthday! Martha

[@allanbarton]

Many happy returns for Saturday Martha.

[@miraclegal55]

Lovely!

[@nurmaybooba]

This is an historic occasion and I am looking forward to watching if I can find someplace to watch it online..No matter what these episodes are so helpful to understanding this grand occasion.

[@educanassa100]

Amazing

[@ianison9820]

Is there any roll for the Groom of the Stool?

[@allanbarton]

The last sovereign to have a Groom of the Stool was William IV.

[@ianison9820]

@@allanbarton so, maybe for Wills's do, then?

[@nadiabrook7871]

BEAUTIFUL thrones!! XXXX 💗❤🤗👍

[@gammamaster1894]

Anyone else think it's a little odd that the chairs of estate seem to be grander than the thrones?

[@allanbarton]

They won't seem so when they are raised up.

[@roycobb8268]

Much love ❤️💜💛, and royal glory to the King Charles lll 👑 and Queen Camilla 👑!

[@davidhensley76]

I hope the artisans creating this beauty see a prolonged increase in revenue from the interest in their work engendered by royal exposure.

[@justinwilliams7290]

The curule/x frame thrones are my favorite type of throne ever so I'm thrilled to see them used. While both are 17th century in style, the chairs of estate to me, look rather Louis XIV. Camilla's robe already also looks to me like it will be the nicest robe of state of any consort.

[@petersumner7367]

I think it's more tradition than recycling

[@allanbarton]

The tradition (for the past four hundred years) was that new chairs to be made for each coronation, which where then taken away by officials as a perk of their office. This reuse is a departure.

[@dragonclaws9367]

Is that a boar on the back? I also love heraldry. I chose a panther for myself. ❤

[@calvinloganpillay]

As much as I appreciate and support the sustainability and conservation behind restoring these former Thrones and Chairs of Estate for current use, I am also saddened that we would never see their original forms again, other than when captured in photographs.

[@nicholashodgkinson2822]

Fun fact Prince Philphs Chair wasn’t made till after the coronation

[@allanbarton]

1958

[@nicholashodgkinson2822]

@@allanbarton yes that’s after the coronation

[@gonefishing167]

Marvellous craftwork isn’t it though it’s still so sad to see queen Elizabeth’s things go. 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

[@caro-uk]

Yes it is; she & her mother must have felt this when she became Queen🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@SafetySpooon]

They're not really "going"; they are being preserved.

[@ericalbany]

The old order passes, giving place to new...

[@caro_Uk]

@@SafetySpooon Yes, I realise that but I understand what 'Gone Fishing' means🙂

[@robnewman6101]

Happy Coronation Day to His Majesty King Charles the III & Queen Camilla on the 6th May 2023. In the old year.

[@hopewalker1747]

I just don’t understand why she is queen?

[@innociduousnepheliad8140]

Seriously, what is so difficult to understand? Queen Mary of Teck is Queen because she was married to King George V. Queen Rania of Jordan is Queen because she's married to the King of Jordan. Have you EVER heard of Queen Consort being used as an actual title until now?

[@tiffanyi5645]

“Queen” Camilla is all wrong. It’s just wrong ugh

[@allanbarton]

She is a wonderful support to the king and that is what he needs in this role. She isn't attention seeking, she just gets on with things quietly and graciously.

[@oneileo66]

​@@allanbartonexactly Allan Camella is the perfect support for him she gives him peace and they are still very much in love . I'm happy that he has the love of his life by his side that in it self makes the task of governance much more baring I assume . We all loved Diana and I'm sorry that they were I'll matched from the getgo . But life happens .