The Tim Walz 'Stolen Valor' Accusations: Mike Glover & Andy Stumpf Sound Off I FOCAL POINT

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[@iamanamerican7936]

I was in Iraq with the 1/125 located in Scania. I remember an SF Sgt Maj was killed near our AO..... Scania was where we spent that deployment. I can't remember what year that happened, but I want to say it was early 07, but maybe late 06. Thank you for doing this fellas, this crap has been going on for too long with Walz.

[@Fkku-r6d]

If he hadnt lied about going into combat I dont think anyone would take issue here.

[@iamanamerican7936]

@@Fkku-r6d 💯, he embellishes everything, he can't figure out why anyone is upset.....

[@Fkku-r6d]

@@iamanamerican7936 Was you active or reserve? Im no Walz supporter but the Guard does work differently then the Reg/ Hell My brother with 25 years in and 18 being in 10th group he had special priveledge due to his kid is sick and the only army base that could handle his childs illness was in Colorado, He did 20 years there never leaving, They also made sure he wasnt in the shit even over seas cus of his families needs, Fkk I seen more combat as a 88m in both gulf wars then My brother who was SF in 10th group, Lol, And I also know the NG is a whole different world , hell I did a year in Cav sitting in a tank and playing Cav scout but none of it is on My DD214 or My NG seperation papers, Lol, The Guard is loose, Lol.

[@Ryan-xq3kl]

@@Fkku-r6d He also put tampons in boys bathrooms and signed a bill legitimizing PEDOPHILIA as an official sexuality

[@yahwehwarrior]

I was in the Army Reserves for 4 years as a Cook. I was medically discharged in 2004, it was honorable. I often feel like my service was minimal and very insignificant. I really appreciate your highlighting and honoring all honorable service. I greatly appreciate your perspective on this.

[@johnrichardson4346]

Hey it takes everyone don't ever think your service is insignificant. Chow is fuel for all soldiers and if troops don't eat they eventually can't function just like wheeled and tracks need fuel to operate.

[@katnapper1]

Don't deminish what you did in the military. You raised the same right hand and swore the same oath that I did. Had you been called up and ordered to go before you service ended, I have no doubt that you would have gone and done whatever was asked or ordered to do. Fir what it's worth, I'm proud and grateful for the service you did while in.

[@Bourbon101LRSD]

Never devalue your service!

[@vitaly6312]

The army marches on its stomach dude. I also never deployed, but I remember being good friends with out cooks and helped them set up field kitchens and such. The hooked us up all the time which was awesome because being in the field for weeks blows.

[@enriquep.-cz2xx]

I looked forward to chow at most Army bases. Even small ones like Ft Story Virginia had good hot chow. Never had an issue with a cook anywhere I was stationed. Thanks for that if we were ever in the same place. All the best.

[@martyfenton6184]

I served during the Cold War and retired as Navy Chief. I never had the privilege of serving in combat, but I never made an effort to escape it.

[@JessY-ft6io]

The oddest thing is that he served as CSM for 45 days. I can't wrap my head around holding that position for that amount of time (at most 4 days with that rank on uniform) and still putting that on your resume. There was nothing wrong with serving for 24 years and telling people you retired as a MSG.

[@OGSiX33]

He was promoted conditionally of taking a course he ended up not taking.

[@hulknback3680]

@@OGSiX33he knows that, didn’t need to explain that.

[@robertburt8922]

Whole lot of truth here. I was stopped lossed day before my cut off from ACAP for OIF2’ as a SSG. I was running an Automotive repair and racing shop in my off hours and weekends.. I got offered to stay back on rear d. Stood in the 1SGT’s office and said if you are stop lossing me for combat then I’m going to roll with the guys. You’re not extending my tour to sit here and do nothing. I didn’t realize what I was asking for but in the end it was well worth it.

[@daylonhucks5592]

I truly thank you for your service brother. That shows character

[@Brycenwhorton]

Thank you for your service My dad served in Iraq '03

[@richardlug6139]

Thanks for your service. To tell the truth I don’t think I would have felt the same way about going.

[@joselozadasanchez1947]

Tampon Tim..... Stolen valor

[@geekstradamus1548]

Yeah, I had a bad LOD injury and reclassed from 11B to Supply NCO, in the guard. I’d done one combat deployment before that. When I got told I’d pull RearD Supply, I bounced. Totally get it.

[@charlie2730]

I couldn't help but laugh when I got a Tim Waltz ad of him asking for money right after this video finished.

[@cyberft]

Did KZbin serve you that ad or somewhere else?

[@shapeshifter52001]

The more I hear Andy talk, the more I like and respect him. I wish all SEALs had his demeanor and professionalism.

[@mikebrase5161]

LOL

[@ed-pz4xf]

Wait till he makes you a cup of coffee. (yes he does actually help out at his own business, imagine a boss doing that!) Stand up guy all around.

[@williamscore5322]

Guard guy here, 100% dodging the deployment. Gotta understand, when the first real round of guard deployments came down in 2005ish, there were a shit ton of senior guys that had spent 20 years doing nothing, had no idea how to do their jobs and popped smoke. He was honestly one of many that retired immediately or found something else to do. They were not real senior NCOs or Officers, they had never commanded anything and deploying scared the shit out of them. They are a part of what we call the “old Guard”. Basically, do nothing, know nothing and get a small check for it every month, playing soldier. Mass exodus of 80s and 90s guys is what happened when the deployments started for the guard. 2000 - 2020 guard guy here.

[@afs6596]

yuuupppp

[@John-or9ccUndauntedRaceCars]

Yep , pre 9-11 there guard was filled with the exact type you mentioned along with a ton of career spec 4's . Most who could not legitimately pass a PT test. Pre 01 Guard was the epitome of weekend warriors.

[@afs6596]

@@John-or9ccUndauntedRaceCars a professional soldier is ACTIVE duty..full time...NOT ng ...the fact that he gets a pension is sickening...weekend a month for 24 years...give me a break

[@John-or9ccUndauntedRaceCars]

@afs6596 I'm at a loss as to why the anger directed at my comment . I never mentioned the Guard being " professional soldiers " nor the distinctions of AD vs NG . Nor have I ever equated 24 years of Guard time compared to AD time. I was never a Nasty Girl , my little brother was . My entire time consisted of Active Duty . I don't equate serving less than 1,500 days ( typical Guard time over 24 years ) to even being equal to a 4 year initial enlistment on active duty which runs out to around 1,460 days time in service . So relax high speed.

[@dreb222]

@@afs6596You do realize that much of the national guard is on active duty? It’s called AGR - Active Guard / Reserve. Being in an AGR slot gets same active duty credit as Federal Active Duty. That said, I’m not defending him at all, just wanted to clear this little tidbit up based on your NG comment.

[@TheTinyAutistsGuideToTheGalaxy]

I love hearing about life in the service from people who have served. Very informative and fair. Great work, guys.

[@hamjeepr8881]

The sad part is he had nothing to be ashamed of until he lied about rank and combat. Retiring after 20+ years as an E-8 is nothing to sneeze at, even if it was in the NG where you promote by slots instead of points.

[@Rensune]

They are so used to lying by this point it's like breathing. Most of their lies are unnecessary.

[@dzhitshard]

He has plenty to be ashamed about regarding his service. This vetbro stolen valor knee jerking is a distraction perpetrated by his campaign so people don’t start demanding direct information on a specific retirement submission date and why he has a bar to reenlistment on his NGB22 discharge form. Block 26, reenlistment code Re-3. The same code given to joes who get felony DUI, fail UA, go AWOL etc.

[@Flashhood1425]

Yessss! I don’t get it. He could have easily been honest and kept plenty of credibility.

[@F4FWildcat]

Yeah but here's the deal. I don't care if the guy is Audie Murphy. I do not agree with his politics. This is why I will not support him.

[@firefly9838]

@@Rensune if you don't lie you arent going to move up... you have to take every opportunity in life and he did. I respect that.

[@bmuhleman]

As a Vet of the Ohio Army National Guard, I am not upset by his 24 years of service at all. I am not upset he misspoke about weapons of war let it slide, shit happens right. I am mad he claims to be a CSM and was not, I am mad he claims on tape numerous times to be a retired CSM, I am mad he had coins made saying CSM, I am mad he used Stolen Valor to further his career in politics and he did profit from it. By the law he is 100% guilty and needs held accountable, he is not ablve the laws. His entire political career is based around being a retired CSM, a head coach (was not a HC he was a unpaid Asst) and a teacher.

[@Andrew-tj7st]

No, the weapons of war comment can't slide. It's unforgivable.

[@Tora1337]

Thank you for your service. I brought up this precise point myself.

[@bmuhleman]

@Andrew-tj7st I am saying give him a pass only cause he could have misspoke or toed the line however the times on tape of saying I am a retired CSM is heinous

[@jameswest411]

Don't forget about Navy Captain Ronny Jackson Retired, who was demoted after he retired because of a DOD Inspector General investigation of serious misconduct while serving in the White House as the President's physician. He was a CSM, he didn't retire as one because he did not hold the rank for 3 years. Folks get a grip, all politicians lie.

[@nextjin]

He was a CSM and served as one. He just didn’t retire as one because he bailed on the deployment. He could technically say he served as a CSM but that’s about it.

[@jessewestover3212]

Couple things here, thanks for highlighting this. I served in MN NG with buddies who served with Walz. Someone from his unit did die during the deployment and all people I’ve talked to who served with him stated he isn’t a guy you want to have your back. True POS.

[@AmericanFlyOnTheWall]

Russian bot.

[@iamanamerican7936]

​@@AmericanFlyOnTheWallthe soldiers name is Kyle Miller. He wasn't the only one, the kid was only 20 years old...

[@truck1235]

@@AmericanFlyOnTheWall who is the russian bot?

[@AmericanFlyOnTheWall]

@@truck1235 You and your mom.

[@AmericanFlyOnTheWall]

@@iamanamerican7936 What does that have to do with CSM Walz?

[@stevespilker7640]

I met Mike Glover at his hq in Provo, UT. Great guy and much respect for him. I have never met Andy, but I have listened to him a lot. Much respect also to Andy.

[@upperroomtoo]

His battalion ended up caught in the surge and stop lossed for a 18 month deployment in which they had 3 KIA and many wounded. Even the BN Chaplain (who is in the command staff) called Walz a coward for abandoning the troops.

[@petersearls4443]

@@upperroomtoo do you have a link to where he said that? Do you know the chaplain’s name?

[@petersearls4443]

@@upperroomtoo you mean abandoning them by retiring one month before the unit received its deployment orders?

[@BigTeeze]

Source? Or we just saying things on the internet, bud?

[@bigboots6114]

@@petersearls4443 doesnt work that way in the military, they will put you on deployment alert a year prior so you can get your affairs in order

[@upperroomtoo]

@@petersearls4443 he was notified along with the rest of the BN staff 6 months before that their number was up and they would deploy. He even gave a speech to the troops that he was taking them to war. It takes very little effort to find that senior NCO's from his BN were accusing him in 2006 of abandoning them.

[@Boosted_14R]

Retired 11Z, joined 2004, def been there and done that, 100% agree with both of you gentlemen. Well stated points

[@trevorhaskell1602]

I love getting a tim waltz campaign ad right before a video about Tim waltz stolen valor

[@LK-bz9sk]

Stolen Bone Spurs

[@TarawaS2000]

I came to post this.

[@belladora1224]

Mike is stealing valor presenting himself in PUBLIC as a Dad. A political hack .

[@russellridge8623]

@@belladora1224 Your jealousy of his having testicles glaring.

[@cristobalgonzalez9752]

What state are you guys from?

[@burtmacklin6443]

In instances like Tim Walz I turn to veterans as your opinions are what matters in the end.

[@robertflowers9735]

My father served 8 years in the army and the rest of his career in the ANG retiring as E-7. He was never called into a conflict until he was in his 50's in Desert Storm and nothing made him more proud to serve in that conflict. I have never heard him mention his service whatsoever unless specifically asked if he ever served and only mentioned Desert Storm if he was asked if he was ever deployed into a conflict. And I can tell you that several times when borrowing his vehicle with veteran plates and someone thanked me for my service I made sure to tell them that was not me but my father and I will gladly pass on their regards to him. I never went into the military but have the highest respect for them. Walz knew what he was doing and should have known much better than imply he served in combat. The fact that that didn't automatically take him out of consideration for VP is such a slap in the face to those who served in conflict. I'm sure many veterans may not care and I respect that, I am not trying to clutch pearls for them, but myself I don't need to hear anymore about Walz, he is a valor stealing loser in mine and many others eyes. Thanks to all who have served in conflict or not, you all have my highest respect and God bless you!

[@bmcdonald7303]

I agree.

[@ZecVitaly]

lol yet the orange man will disparage wounded veterans as losers

[@robertflowers9735]

@@ZecVitaly And the morons will keep mentioning debunked lies

[@michaelfrock2473]

@@ZecVitalycalling someone a name vs stolen valor and avoiding combat with your team plus blocking someone who wanted that promotion by taking it and not completing are quite different and not comparable.

[@ZecVitaly]

@@michaelfrock2473 ha

[@Rskproduct]

Even worse, he didn’t meet the requirements for Command Sergeant Major and was demoted post retirement, but still tells people he’s a retired CSM, and prints the rank on his coins

[@YoungEagle444]

That was a fair and accurate assessment, Andy 👌

[@wilhathaway1987]

He still refuses to accept and take responsibility. He’s still claiming his position and when it has been proven false. That should tell you what kind of person Timmy is.

[@Bourbon101LRSD]

I spent 13 years in the Guard, 92-05. My unit was activated 2weeks after 9/11 for a stateside force protection mission. We did that for a year, My unit wasn’t getting deployed so I got a contracting job in Afghanistan with KBR. Did that for 18 months, then got on a intel community contract for 12 years. I wanted to go to war, so i found a different route to get there.

[@ShaunsJeep]

Mike and Andy are great to watch. Solid episode.

[@scottspence9178]

Illuminating his character. Great comment

[@kelechiaguocha6125]

A stolen valor accusation is very dangerous in my opinion because we’re fracturing the veteran community into bickering tribes etc. Donald Trump dodged the Vietnam multiple times…yet these guys will sit there and parse words. JD Vance was a combat photographer. I earned my CMB in OIF 2005 and did a 6-month peacekeeping mission in 1999. I don’t discredit Vance’s DD214 because he served and was discharged honorably. However, pointing the finger at Walz while your political principle dodged the Vietnam draft multiple times is absolutely disgusting.

[@pdhudsonUSMC]

Biden dodged it several times as well, more than Trump. I don’t think it is a case of Stolen Valor as he is not claiming to have won a medal for valor. I think he is a definite Blue Falcon though. You don’t 1) leave your guys to deploy without you and 2) f over another SNCO who wasn’t scheduled to deploy to take your spot and then brag about your service.

[@waltjefferis552]

Walz was passing out a challenge coin with CSM rank on it as a member of congress. Stolen valor all the way . I agree with both of you I’m a vet myself and if you served you served. But there’s a difference between a combat vet and state side vet. Ask anyone who had to hand the folded flag to a widow. I follow both you because of the true honest content and men you are.

[@samwalker3441]

A wonderfully articulate and insightful conversation. Thanks for posting.

[@thedoncastellani]

Was in the Army reserves for 8 years. Got orders to GTMO twice. I knew a couple of NCOs that have been voluntarily hopping from deployment to deployment for years. One of them had over 6 (can't remember exactly how many) at least 3 of them were regular army combat deployments. The fact he left his men months before they deployed and took the demotion to E 8 to do so is infuriating.

[@Dsm4g631Evo]

Ask walz to show his DD 214. That will answer a lot of questions

[@jaygallamore562]

Thirty three year Navy veteran here. I think all veterans and their families understand and are deeply offended when someone purposely misrepresents their service, especially for political reasons. It appears a lot of civilians accept Tim Walz’ misrepresentation as an oversight. Thanks for discussing this, please keep this issue in the forefront with the hope folks will start to get why Walz’ behavior is so reprehensible.

[@laymansview5246]

But you're OK with a REMF trashing another veteran for political reasons? I was planning on voting for Trump because he chose Vance, but now I'm not so sure.

[@Aegis030]

​​@@laymansview5246 no one is trashing that he served. They are commenting on how He personally characterized his own service. Walz represented to others who don't know.. that he went into a combat zone. He clearly, did not get deployed into a combat zone. Walz represented, he retired as a Command Sargeant Major, (E-9) when the Army records clearly states he retired as an E-8. His service is not the question. The trash talk is where HE intentionally lied to get politically elected.

[@laymansview5246]

@@Aegis030 I find it hard to believe you're a veteran at all let alone 30+ year veteran if you don't how retirement works. Walz was made a CSM and placed in the role of Bn CSM. Permanant rank was conditional, but he served at the rank and position, he gets to retire at that rank. I think as I said, Vance is talking crap about another veteran for political purposes. Vance talks about how when his country called, he answered. He went into a noncombat job and left the military just as soon as his one hitch was up. As a cold war veteran with 9 years 8 months and 24 days just sitting on a fence, I'm appalled at other veterans bad mouthing a man that served for 24 years without looking at the REMF doing the bad mouthing. If Walz, did it for political reasons so is Vance. You can't have it both ways.

[@EdSmith-r4y]

@@laymansview5246 Wrong. Services have a TIG time in grade requirement for maintaining an advancement. Services also frock, but not advance enlisted. He may have held a job, but was not retired at E-9.

[@laymansview5246]

@@EdSmith-r4y He was put in a CSM position, and it came with all the trimmings, including rank and pay. He held the job, so he gets to retire at that rank. Obviously, he had the TIG and TIS. You're the one that's wrong son.

[@willholmes4408]

Gentlemen, I agree with your points. Tell the truth. The whole truth. Don't "round up." NOW, HOLD ALL POLITICIANS FROM BOTH PARTIES TO THAT STANDARD. As a frustrated Independent, I see both sides excusing away the sins of "their side," and being outraged at more minor sins of the "Other side." Use the same measuring stick & cut equally deep when needed. We have to have a consistent moral compass. I appreciate y'all.

[@alessiomarin1218]

This is just me being attentive to details, but it's such a good touch that Andy is wearing a Fieldcraft Survival hat and Mike is wearing a Cleared Hot Podcast one.

[@hectorsantana691]

I don't agree with his choice of words, but saying he intentionally lied, I am not so sure. He did deploy to some place, I believe Italy, and you do carry weapons in that situation. Not all National Guard units were deployed. Most of the talk about his service tinged with political reasons. 24 years of service is still commendable. When JD Vance said that he served in the US Marines as a clerk journalist, he did not do any combat, but people COULD think that he did.

[@nickthabrick]

I would love to hear an interview from someone that worked under him that has a well spoken and honest opinion of him as a leader... This could give a huge insight on him as a man and as a leader.

[@ramadoo2179]

his battalion commander came out publicly pointing out Waltz's inaccuracies and was happy he decided to retire rather than deploy with their unit

[@MDR-hn2yz]

I served in the Marines in OIF in 2006-07. I was an aviation ordnanceman by primary MOS, not in combat arms. I could have gotten out after my first enlistment without going, (02-06), because it was just the luck of my draw. I re-enlisted for 2 more years (06-08), raised my hand for orders to the next combat deployment, and then volunteered for flight duty as an aerial gunner in helos, which is what I ended up doing a lot of in Iraq. I joined shortly after 9/11 to fight and personally would not have wanted to get out and move on with my life, when a lot of my guys did their time down range. That’s just my personal belief. I equate that time with terms like “surge”, “stop loss”. You want to get real dark, anyone else remember the terms “death squad” or “sectarian violence”? I believe that Walz served our country honorably for 24 years. And he deserves respect for that. I also believe that he absolutely committed stolen valor for claiming he went to war and retired as a CSM.

[@TrevorWeston-r1h]

You serve in TQ area?

[@MDR-hn2yz]

@@TrevorWeston-r1h I wasn’t stationed there, but flew in a few times. I remember getting mortared in the fuel pits. 😆

[@TrevorWeston-r1h]

@@MDR-hn2yz LOL you were there, I was there with 1st and 2nd MEF, i was in the 34th ID

[@MDR-hn2yz]

@@TrevorWeston-r1h did you ever fly in a CH-53? I was with HMH-465 and we were the only 53 unit in Iraq at the time. We flew everyone, army, navy EOD & Seabees, Marines, Iraqis. I was based out of Al Asad, but I was probably in every FOB and COP in Al Anbar Province at some point. You were in TQ? How was that? The medevac squadron for our group flew out of there. HMM-364. That was a rough deployment for helos.

[@TrevorWeston-r1h]

@@MDR-hn2yz nah, my unit was strictly light mechanical infantry 11B we had Bradleys but were never allowed to use them cause the IEDs became bigger. We just patrolled Habbaniya, Ramadi, and Fallujah area. Only flights i did was in and out on a C130. We only saw the Sea Stallion flying overhead. it was more the sea knight that was used for medivacs.

[@wompa70]

I deployed to Saudi Arabia in 1990. Due to an emergency at home I returned to the states in December and never went back. Desert Shield became Desert Storm in January. NEVER have I told anyone I served in a war. Walz absolutely knew people would think he went on patrols with a fire team.

[@hcomey]

Retired Navy here.. Thank you for recognizing and calling out other branches that helped. I was tapped for an IA to Ghazni Afghanistan in 06 for a year. We were embedded with Connecticut National Guard.

[@kevinc8387]

He put his rank as command Sargent on his challenge coin. He didn't complete his obligations to get the rank. Angry cop did a very comprehensive breakdown of his situation. Definitely dodger.

[@petehaack5228]

Actually, it's worse. He put CSM rank on his Governer's coin. Okay, maybe he had CSM rank on his military coin while he was an acting CSM, but when he was the Governor he was already retired as a MSG, so at that point, there was no "misunderstanding."

[@wilhathaway1987]

@@petehaack5228he put it on his coin when he was in congress also.

[@jiveturkeylee]

I think you guys should try and have a conversation with him that would be interesting.

[@DrJ8008]

Nice to see Mike taking a break from DV

[@H-Town_83]

Been waiting for someone i trust to talk about this and break it down.

[@jeffralston8946]

One of the many strange and untaught facts of our history, in 1846 A senator applied to have his West Point Commission reinstated and resigned his Office to serve in the Mexican American War. He served in both the Battles of Monterrey and Buena Vista, being wounded at Buena Vista. His name was Jefferson Davis. Read, history is not what you are being told

[@drewtorres211]

Thank you guys for speaking on behalf of not only your professional experience but on the behalf of us combat vets and the American people with the right to secure our 2nd Amendment

[@Fat_Thor_1138]

Sometimes seeing combat or getting a combat deployment isn’t meant to be. I did 10 years (part of which I was an infantryman) and never got the opportunity to go to a combat zone until I became a contractor.

[@jerry5876]

yea, these podcast guys can't think. sometimes its the luck of the draw

[@hunterjones9822]

Walz needs to get that call from Don Shipley...

[@farmrrick]

That'd be awesome wouldn't it .

[@allenwixted1992]

I think it was an intentional misuse, but the motive was just to sound “better” in terms of the pitch and delivery. I don’t think it was necessarily to buff himself up as a combat hero for example. Might be wrong (1/3 through the video)

[@myfightlogic6027]

Besides lying on his combat his political career was horrendous he's definitely a perfect match for kamela 😂

[@OriGummie]

He’s still more honorable than Trump. How could any veteran be Trump’s lapdog and mouthpiece is insane to me

[@nightowl835]

normally I have a lot more respect for Andy, the other one was arrested recently for domestic violence (which unlike you guys I would not automatically assume you were guilty of and give the benefit of the doubt unlike you both did for waltz) so maybe he has an axe to grind

[@shonbrossard7859]

As a Minnesotan I do not like Waltz ! He’s a liar, a fraud, and he is woke ! Very scary that he was chosen to be candidate for vice president what he did here during Covid times was not right this is very scary

[@maxia4584]

What’s more scary, a guy who gave children free food at school or a draft dodger who insulted POWS who wants to become a dictator

[@jiveturkeylee]

Lol

[@scottspence9178]

Great episode!

[@alexenglish4585]

You hit the nail on the head. He used rhetoric that would have a civilian believe he did more than he did. And he was careful to word it the way he did so if he was ever confronted he’d say “i never said i fought.” It’s just politics and inflated words.

[@hansangb]

He lied. "weapons of war that I carried in war" That's nor rhetoric. That's lying, pure and simple.

[@petersearls4443]

@@alexenglish4585 hmmmm I think you are assigning intent that wasn’t there. Because he also very clearly stated, “I never saw combat.” So why do you think a badly phrased statement was an attempt at stolen valor after he said he didn’t see combat.

[@scapegoat762]

@@petersearls4443 "Weapons of war that I carried in war". Words have meaning. There is no way to make the words that he said go away. HE LIED. HE CLAIMED THAT HE DID SOMETHING THAT HE DID NOT DO. I'm assigning the reality of his actions.

[@alexenglish4585]

@@hansangb i agree! He lied in his rhetoric. Lying is a verb, rhetoric is a noun. They can coexist.

[@liamroarke7991]

And you're saying Republicans don't lie about things??

[@HKHolyDiver]

Subbed. Solid episode as a first time viewer. Thank you 👊

[@flyingirish31]

I was a raise my hand IA. I served in Iraq and worked CA in Iraq 2006-2007. Red Bulls FA battalion was in charge of VBDOC. I worked with them as they held responsibility for the few villages around VBC. Walz was a known shitbag. And everyone talked about how he bailed to go into politics and they were pissed because they received guidance that due to their activated status, they were not allowed to individually take part in any political activity against him. I didn’t even remember this until his first run for governor when the Star Tribune took some heat from not covering some of his fellow now retired battalion members that were writing opeds against him. It was only then I recalled the convos I had in country.

[@MartsEntertainment]

If he served but didn’t go to combat how would that be stolen valor?

[@octainrod1612]

I’ll put it this way. I deployed twice and when I tell folks that I make it clear I left the wire on one deployment and never fired a weapon in defense or anger. Walt’s knows what he did. If I was on a jury I’d have no doubt he was stole valor. I at least deployed.

[@johnmurray8267]

Mike, terrific to see you back on KZbin with your views. 🥇🥇🇺🇸🇺🇸🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@ronobrien7187]

There is video of the NG in Michigan during Covid lockdowns firing non-lethal rounds at civilians that were standing on their own porch. The squad leader actually shouted, "light em up!" Those are the only guys that Walz wants to have guns.

[@clintonmarcy4482]

Good show brothers!! I was there OIF 05-07!!!! Thanks for your service fellow veterans and believe in LORD JESUS!!!!

[@JacobWolock]

05-06 cycle was intense, I was an active duty USAF E-5 fobbit (dude who didn't go outside the wire) communications technician at the time, but we took 50+ a month of indirect fire attacks that were mostly rockets but had some morters and VBIEDs. We did take small arms with us, but we had them locked in the UCC. I was there and technically took weapons, but I wouldn't claim I carried weapons into war or fought in the way that guy claims to have. Words have meaning. I served 20 years, did two deployments into the AOR for OIF, dozens of other missions not in theater supporting OIF, OEF, GWOT, and nuclear assurance and deterrence, and retired honorably as a E-7. My personal belief is that this man has no honor and only used the National Guard for personal gain. I don't see how someone can prepare oneself and the men and women under them in the profession of arms for 24 years for combat and leave right after finding out that they are finally going into theater. As the acting Command Sergeant Major, he was in the loop and knew the deployment dates just as much as he knew he had years and traning to get through to retire at that rank. He brings great shame to his service and to all of us who executed the mission without him. It will be a sad day for us if this person is elected into being a breath away from being CNC. His "leadership" would endanger us all and be a threat to national security. Supporting the troops means a vote against him.

[@rodrigogutierrez7874]

I agree with Andy , but please guys as somebody that hates both parties equally don't talk about dodging the war without mentioning your boy Trump.

[@REB4444]

Normally I wouldn't be that upset about it but his stolen valor needs to be magnified because when HE got the call, he went looking for political cover, going over the head of his C.O. without telling him & skipping the process to get out. When HE got the call HE CUT & RAN, which is worst than just telling false war stories to get elected. There are a lot of us that served that didn't get deployed to a combat zone because of the era we served in, but you don't hear us fraudulently misrepresenting ourselves. I am proud to have served either way.

[@JaneLaPlace]

Love you guys. Andy always makes me laugh even with bad situations.

[@kaseydynneson1925]

How you end you military career will and can destroy whatever legacy you have.

[@robertchapman6822]

Which wars was the national guard involved in between 1981 and 2005? How many e-8’s serve in Congress before walz

[@robertchapman6822]

If Walz was in one photo seen carrying a by the Soviet Union or Red China during the Cold War he carried of war during war. Stop acting like the US military only protected the U.S. after 2003.

[@TroyBierkortte]

Whether the dude deliberately dodged combat or not, his narrative has been more than just a slap to veterans who went to war. It’s also a slap to those of us who never had to go to war. It’s like saying that our service was bullshit because we weren’t in combat, so we have to embellish it and outright lie about it if we want to have any kind of pride for our service. I’m not okay with that. Like any rational and sane human being - including those who went into combat - I never wanted to be in that kind of danger where I had to kill to survive. But that wasn’t ever my choice once I took the oath. You raise your hand and then do what you are ordered to do. Period. That’s honorable enough that it doesn’t need to be embellished.

[@ryankinyon7349]

Well said guys!

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

Trump has seen more combat than waltz 😂

[@LK-bz9sk]

Trump swam at summer camp. That’s why he was the best Navy SEAL…..you know that, the media does and so do I.

[@russellridge8623]

@@LK-bz9sk Pres Trump would never stoop to SEAL level. He would have been SF, CAC, Unit etc. And he has been in one more gunfight than Command CowardMajor Walz.

[@afs6596]

@@LK-bz9sk mi balz es hairee

[@stephenspencer355]

Oh, the 5 time Vietnam war draft dodger? When would that have been?!

[@Chris-hb2ib]

@@stephenspencer355 having legal deferments is not being a "draft dodger". That is a legal term used for individuals that fled the country or actively fled the draft against orders. By that reasoning anyone that went to college during the vietnam war and got a deferment is also a "draft dodger".

[@blakewestcomb9541]

Great perspectives

[@pastorofmuppets1968]

4 years ago this man let my home town burn. He should be indicted, not running for Vice President.

[@jerry5876]

he called the national guard, preventing further damage and saved the cities. Hardly letting it burn.

[@pastorofmuppets1968]

@@jerry5876 Bull. He told the police to stand down. Were you there?

[@jerry5876]

@@pastorofmuppets1968 you are incorrect, it was the city mayor who called them off, not Walz. Walz did a fine job in that situation and would make a great VP. Harris/Walz 2024

[@pastorofmuppets1968]

@jerry5876 sorry Jerry. He's a dufus who has destroyed this state. We have the highest tax rate in the nation and it all goes to social programs that benefit a tiny minority. Do you live here?

[@wcb5890]

@@jerry5876 He waited days...and when asked about bringing in the Guard he said they were "19yr old cooks". This is on tape. He was/is indecisive and incompetent. He also has the ability to bring in State officers and over ride the mayor.

[@David.M._1979]

Yes I was burned out after 4 deployments in 7 years. Two of them were 15 months deployments. My body still feeling it

[@jamyepeterson502]

Thank you for your service.

[@Kirsdarke]

7:23 that’s a fact and it’s an obvious fact. The senior enlisted man of that unit abandoned his troops after lying to them and telling them he was going, that he wouldn’t leave them at such a critical time. Waltz lied about being in war, lied about his position - but he also lied to his boys, and any vet knows the sanctity of a senior enlisted man’s word to his troops. Waltz is a coward and liar. He needs to be slammed for stolen valor, he owes his boys an apology, he owes actual combat vets an apology and he needs to demonstrate that he feels the shame he should be feeling after what he did.

[@chefojose]

I’m going to take the road Walz did. Thank you for your service and not question your KZbinr book writing persons, and not question your service.

[@jameswest411]

Andy, you are a critical thinker, thoughtful individual and a true professional. I'm a veteran with three decades of service and an apolitical operator, and the only interest I have is that we remain a democracy. Yes, Governor Walz's statement at a political gathering about carrying a weapon in war wasn’t factual, it was misleading but does that single statement grant other veterans or civilians that have never served a single day in their life in defense our democracy, or for those individuals, who have received five (5) medical deferments for a bone spur diagnosis have the right to question Walz’s loyally to this country. Moreover, does that same individual who received those deferments have the right to disparage the sacrifices of service members like Sergeant La David Johnson, who was killed along with 3 other Green Berets on October 4, 2017, when this individual told Sergeant Johnson’s widow that he knew what he was getting himself into. And so many others like USMC General John Kelly, his son, a Marine infantry officer was killed in Afghanistan, or Ghazala Khan, other gold star family that loss their son in Iraq. When a sitting president refuses to visit the American cemetery in France, called the those service members “losers” and “sucker,’ which was first reported by the Atlantic and confirmed by The Associated Press. As for stolen valor, let's discuss Navy Captain O-6 (Retired) Ronny Jackson, who actually retired as a rear admiral but was demote after retirement after the DOD inspector general sustained allegations of serious misconduct while he served the White House as the president's physician. Now Congressman Jackson still identifies himself as a retired rear admiral from the navy. Folks, Walz was a E-9 CSM, he served in that role until he retired, but actually retired as an E-8 Master Sergeant because he didn't hold the E-9 rank for three years and did not complete the required educational requirement. This nation is facing critical issues, yet folks want to talk about Walz's weapons comment and if he was an E-9 CSM, who cares! Perhaps, focus on veterans issues, I suggest you read Project 2025, 920 page manifesto on how to limit the rights of American citizens that are not aligned with the Christian nationalism movement, look military section and the impact on veterans. benefits. I read the entire manifesto and I'm not going to comply with that nonsense. Yes, the 2nd Amendment is important because of Christian nationalism movement that threats America's way of life.

[@ScottMurphy-x3t]

It goes to character and values. Mr. Walz has demonstrated poor character a lack of the values that made America a great country. Most Liberals lack these essentials. To your last point, "Christian Nationalism" is a characterization of people on the Left who disdain national pride and Christianity. Please don't fall prey to that propaganda. And, finally, thank you for your service!

[@timjohnson8]

Thank you

[@JavierGarcia-hd7xm]

Mike Glover 😂 “giving his perspective ” after all the bullshit he has done as a civilian 😂 is fucking comical.

[@breckenridgelong7692]

Bot

[@TrevorWeston-r1h]

He left the 34th ID in May, I enlisted in the 34th ID to get DEPLOYED!! He was a coward and still is, a lying duplicitous SOS

[@mastrick5150]

It would be interesting to see how many times Tim Walz's unit deployed to combat zones and how many times he dodged it.

[@FLY--wy2yi]

He did 24 years……I wonder if the two guys talking did 24 years. Maybe they did. I’m a retired NY Cop and will all retire when we are ready…after 20 years of course. The mission goes on. One individual doesn’t carry the mission. It’s a team.

[@TruthresonatorWWJD]

Love it guys , mike knows his stuff

[@jasont4852]

He told a Senate sub committee that he could not get the treatment they needed for PTSD when he came back from over there. To even imply he served in theater is disgusting. He could have just stood on his years of service and let them stand. Say he chose to not go and run for office, but nope, he implied and lied. F him. He disrespects all the men and women that SERVED anywhere in harms way for our way of life.

[@robertravens4232]

You mean he had PTSD from serving in Italy???? Say it isn't so.....

[@hankf616]

@@robertravens4232hey man, some of those bar districts can get pretty touch and go at night. Maybe he had trouble flagging a cab back to base after dinner one night and had to walk.

[@jasondaniels2970]

Again that’s not true. It cites its sources or it gets the hose.

[@shayngilly5606]

Did you serve??

[@AnyProofOfTheseClaims]

He didn't lie once. As a vet for eight years you disgust me. Don't denigrate a fellow brother or sister, at least not around people like me off of your phone.

[@adrianstroud4745]

Thank you for the unbiased breakdown

[@1mcdonaldj]

I'm a reserve (actually deployed right now, and deployed in the National Guard before) and 100% agree with this. He intentionally oversold his qualifications and it's more likely than not he ducked out on his deployment. In the guard you get a notification of sourcing (NOS) a year out from a deployment, but you know far in advance that you're on a ribbon chart to go. The NOS makes it official. And I couldn't imagine serving for 24 years, being a senior leader, and passing up the opportunity to go with your team - especially when you haven't deployed to a combat zone before. I wouldn't call this "stolen valor," just poor judgment for political gain. As far as potentially ducking on the deployment, that's on him to account for. He did his time and earned the right to retire, but I wouldn't have. I'm an independent voter and there is no way I would ever cast a vote for him.

[@gibster9624]

One of the first town hall meetings I ever attended, I listened to a chief of police explain why he couldn't do certain things was because he was a couple of years away from retirement. We werent asking this guy to go to combat and he still dodged his duty because he didn't want to do more work and collect a paycheck.

[@Unfettered-1]

I remember female Marines getting pregnant to get out of deployments….

[@tm9184]

Yeah, saw that a lot too. I also did reserves after active duty, and saw a lot of senior leaders without combat patches. They worked the system.

[@brianbiddle7590]

Now days even the males are getting knocked up.

[@jamesday7344]

Semper me

[@ferallion3546]

When I was in the Navy there was a large problem with female sailors getting pregnant and taking up shore billets that should have gone to male and female sailors who had served their time at sea in the fleet and had earned shore duty if they wanted it.

[@SobberMacSobberMac]

@@ferallion3546 Are you assuming that only female Marines can get pregnant?

[@pingjockey1911]

Great show! Completely agree. Mike - nice tat of Shackleton’s ship 👍🏻 👍🏻 Hang in there with all the challenges. Keep up the good work guys

[@noahpeters6266]

It's interesting hearing veterans discuss this rather than political pundants

[@faulknavy]

Afghan War Vet here, exaggeration amoung vets is definitely a thing, having said that, I respect Walz and JD Vance service. I would love to hear your commentary on Trumps ACTUAL draft dodging and his comments on the Medal of Freedom being more important than the Medal of Honor. Wonder if u guys will tell the truth about that slap in the face.

[@nightowl835]

Thank you for saying you respect both men’s service. Waltz is to the left of where I’m at, but I respect his service. I can’t stand Vance, but one of his few redeeming features is his service and I thank him for that. What I don’t respect is these two gentlemen’s lack of integrity doing a hit job on waltz with nothing about trump. Hey guys, you know we see right through your BS?

[@faulknavy]

@@nightowl835 absolutely correct! captured partisans for sure.

[@cajoleable]

I my opinion. Someone that served. Served. Served honorably. To minimize Walz’s service when Trump was a draft dodger makes little sense. BTW. I will not be voting for Harris as she was appointed by the DNC not voted for by the people.

[@paulwhittington8933]

Come on. He is a politician. If his mouth is open it is telling a lie.

[@ronaldmartin8129]

I respect Glover and Andy But I feel that you're not giving the audience the full picture Tim walz did get deployed For operation enduring freedom He supported troops in Afghanistan from Italy And he retired as a command Sergeant major E9 But then got dropped down to E8 After he retired as E9 So please my brother's give the whole story then let people make up their own minds So no stolen valor but yes miss spoke words

[@moshemorgenstern9636]

That was one of the leanest, smartest, and factual conversations I've listened to in a long time. No hype, no lard.

[@thedude1316]

Andy.

[@Fig7sy]

are you kidding me!!!!!! These two are trump loving losers

[@alpine7313]

Serving for 20 years is honorable, lying about your service for political gain is utterly disgraceful.

[@hopeisnotaplan]

Strong work on the ball cap swap.

[@spacegrass]

I always tell people that i was a unicorn when they ask if i was deployed; active duty army from 2000-2006 91B/P, first time go for the EFMB as an E4....never deployed, landed in MEDDACS prior to ETSn 😅🤷🏼‍♂️

[@mattscout26]

Good talk. I served in Ramadi as a 19D from 05-06 got extended and we even had a guard unit attached. I’m a SGM now and I can say we all looked down at senior leaders with no Combat Patch because they went out of their way to dodge deployment. We don’t need “leaders” running any organization needless to say the country like that

[@JoeDon-zw7be]

82nd Combat Vet here from MN. This guy is an absolute joke… After serving in Iraq and Afghanistan the things he has said about the military almost seems made up. Watched him burn my hometown to the ground. I was also at the withdrawal on the ground in Kabul and that was another beast of a failure by the administration he wishes to join.

[@firefly9838]

Nobody cares

[@JavierGarcia-hd7xm]

Great way to treat fellow vets. Ignoring all the facts just like the dudes on this video.

[@JoeDon-zw7be]

Two faced Walz wouldn’t hold a candle to these “dudes” you mentioned. Pull your head out guy.

[@JavierGarcia-hd7xm]

@@JoeDon-zw7be because he didn’t go to “combat” lol please. Stop the nonsense dude.

[@JoeDon-zw7be]

Only ignorance would think saying going into combat isn’t a big deal… nonsense? This man has lied about so much to just impress and gain political steps. I don’t want to hear it’s not a big deal. Tell that to real families who have felt combat. Stupid comment man.

[@Hitman-zp5wi]

I got deployed with the 39th infantry brigade at the end of 05 Our original deployment was supposed to be for 12 months but the other brigade coming to replace us training in Louisiana wasn’t going to be ready according to higher-ups so they extended our deployment to 24 months that was a part of the surge in 2006

[@F4FWildcat]

Weapon of war was left open ended for a reason. This is why I don't care if the guy is the second coming of Audie Murphy. I don't care for his politics and I will not support him. By the way, a bow with an arrow is a WEAPON OF WAR.

[@malcolmsoh5648]

2 years with the Singapore Armed Forces, 19 months with 1st Battalion Singapore Guards as a C Coy signaller/QM store. I was drafted (like those who got drafted in Vietnam), never deployed. Never like a day in military (I was a Lance-corporal). Nevertheless earned a marksmanship award--best in B coy, physical fitness award, F coy signal course award, completed my prep Guards course at F coy, earned my Guards tab with C coy. Honorable discharged from my service in 1990 with very good performance and very good conduct. When the 1st Gulf War started in 1990, I was a big supporter of the American forces in Iraq especially the Green Beret 12th SFG (De Oppresso Liber). Even though many people mistaken that I was an officer with the British Columbia Regiment for whatever reason.

[@rickrobinson8417]

I don't see how anyone current or former military could be in support of Walz.

[@itsAmeOFP]

I feel the same way about Trump

[@rickrobinson8417]

@@itsAmeOFP Well Trump is the only option that doesn't guarantee to get us into ww3 so you might want to rethink that.

[@jasondaniels2970]

Trump sits here and disrespects troops in your face and Walz actually serves 24 years and he’s the one your disrespecting? You’re in a cult. It’s time to wake now

[@rickrobinson8417]

@@itsAmeOFP Trump won't get us into ww3 like kamala and he wants to give the option for everyone who was wrongfully kicked out of the military for refusing the vax, to get back in with back pay.

[@wc3138]

Trump won’t drag us into ww3. He wants to give service members who were kicked out of the military for not taking the vax the option to get back in AND get back pay. He’s easily the best option for the country.

[@ronnieingle6816]

Brilliant banter 🇺🇸💗🇺🇸