The Time of the Dwarf has Begun! Dwarf discussion with a GT winner - Warhammer: The Old World

[@thedanish5523]

I had the pleasure of meeting Marcus at the NOVA open. Great fellow who was happy to talk about his approach and strategy!

[@Dawiafterdark]

He’s a great guy!

[@Lawyerpants500]

Dawhhhh, Making me blush

[@henrikdomeij3652]

I really likes Marcus approach! Would love to see other lists you have used, only one on BCP is Da Boyz-list.

[@TheMurpleMan]

Awesome. Marcus has the right attitude and I learned a lot. Thanks!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Glad you enjoyed it !!

[@danielbrewster8642]

Great video and an even greater friend. Get this man on your show again

[@Dawiafterdark]

Thank you ! I’m sure he will be back on !

[@Sekuda]

The great content just keeps coming!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Thank you so much ! Hope you enjoy it !

[@92Elfenlied]

Sorry to ask, but where can i find the Lists of like the GT where Marcus Roth won? I would like to take a look at some lists.

[@damianotucci3972]

thanks for the great content as always! ;) best dawi players insight is very interesting! never run the ironbreakers before, i guess i'll have to give them a shot!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Thank you so much ! Yeah I think with the right buffs and hero’s in they could be deadly

[@simonstevens5759]

The last five minutes of this conversation made me go out and buy a dwarves arcane journal.

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@simonstevens5759 yes !!!

[@IronbearClan]

Nodding my head the entire time. This was one of the best videos yet. Love to grumble over Dawi tactics & units while recounting grudges we struck.

[@Dawiafterdark]

Thanks mate glad you enjoyed it !!! Was great to have him on and right some of those wrongs against the dawi !!

[@JeffG-n8p]

Love it. Great conversation as always. Good to hear the REAL meta of the game by those who know !

[@Dawiafterdark]

Thank you for watching ! It’s definitely not the doom and gloom people online say it is , the future of old world is bright !

[@JeffG-n8p]

Yes. There are so many doom and gloomers. I feel like it’s affecting the gaming community ( us non tournament players anyway). But luckily people are watching you all. Just started playing with a new guy. Who is also a big fan of yours ! So keep up the good vibes !!!

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@JeffG-n8p the problem is all of these people moaning don’t even play the game or haven’t bothered playing enough to find the rules that let you say deal with dragons or beat certain armies , the games honestly the best version of fantasy I’ve played and I’m very passionate about it and just want people to enjoy it :) aww amazing !!! You should get some great games in then !!

[@poxous3854]

The command moves to the center.

[@Dawiafterdark]

Where’s the rule that says this mate as I would love to play that

[@Lawyerpants500]

Richie, I would actually say, first, you show me the rule where it says the command must remain the center of the unit. After our talk I went back and looked at it and it only says that the command is placed in the center of the unit once in the rule. To me that implies when it's deployed it must be placed there. Additionally, in the rule it even says under most circumstances it's in the center, but that implies there's wiggle room as well. As one of your commenters pointed out having command would kind of weirdly become a debuff for drilled units cuz then it centers the drilling on the command's access versus no command which would allow you to drill both sides.

[@Lawyerpants500]

Additionally, that same rule says the command "is placed" in the center. Which implies to me, the command can recombobulate to the true center whenever that needs to occur, say after a drilled

[@poxous3854]

@@Dawiafterdark "Make Way" Page 198. Second sentence: "Accordingly, when a unit has completed its movement, the models that make up its command group must be repositioned into the new front rank."

[@poxous3854]

The 'new front rank' would be going from 10 to 15 models. 15 is a new front rank so you move command accordingly. That how we play it in the USA.

[@dondallass5053]

best episode so far. Marcus and you should do deep dives and armylist reviews for dwarfs. How to play dwarfs in aginst all diffrent enemys.

[@Dawiafterdark]

Thank you ! That can definitely be arranged !

[@UKRESINPRINT]

Rock and stone!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Rock and stone !!!

[@xXbulletwatcherXx]

Just started my first dwarf army and love the ironbrakers

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@xXbulletwatcherXx nice !! Welcome to the holds !!

[@squarehammer9349]

Great video!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Thanks mate ! Appreciate it !

[@SwopetheDope]

The way you guys talking about Warhammer is one of the reason I like to listen. IM SICK A TIRED OF LISTENING to people whine and complain about how this unit is to powerful or that this item needs to be removed. Warhammer as always been a game of two things. ARMY COMPOSITIONS and BEING A GOOD GENERAL. Im biggest issue is actually the Units and Items THAT ARE JUST BAD. Why include things in armies that are just objectively not good? Fix those things.

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@SwopetheDope thank you for watching it ! I think things will be fixed going forward , I’m very hopeful !

[@will1228]

For the Ex-Force list, if you take an engineer as your “gunn thane” you can also give the engineer expeditionary marksmen for 10 points which negates the penalty for moving and shooting. Not quite as good as the rune of accuracy but it’s not nothing. You can also make the engineer your BSB for what it’s worth.

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@will1228 putting in burlock with him also takes a minus off that’s for sure ! Makes him better but I am definitely in the gun thane camp

[@will1228]

Same, all 3 runes are just so good together!

[@jtrain9926]

@@Dawiafterdark Between accuracy, rapid fire, Enchanted and Molten Steel you can also shoehorn in 3 engineers/sappers that always hit on 2+ with 2 shots on handguns, which is actually a decent output against those soft targets that rely on to-hit modifiers in addition to their other synergies.

[@royalstonmusic]

Wholesome! Rock and stone! 😊

[@Dawiafterdark]

Rock and stone !!!

[@AndreaGiumetti]

Ironberaker great fan & user here too! used them as a 21 block with a thane in them and totally tanked the shit of my opponent. they went down only coz my opponent menaged to encircle them, and had an incredibly good roll for a total power fist of gork. absolutely love the angry little moving iron hills

[@Dawiafterdark]

They are great little anvils for sure , I enjoy units of 12 or 13 to hold a flank , I can definitely see massive units loaded with heros being great

[@meeskman7410]

Karak Cragnin is my dwarf hold. It is the home of Clan Goldbeard and is located in the Vaults mountains on the old dwarf road between the border princes and Tilea. The hold is known for containing a massive vault that many merchant princes, mercenary captains, and outcast lords in the border princes use as a bank. The clan is very greedy and often lend their soldiers out for mercenary work to support their clients. To represent this all the elite units in the army have gold trim while the more basic troops have bronze. I also like to include a unit of ogre merc's (using the wargame atlantic landsknecht models) in larger games and now with the new Nuln rules I plan on making a more dedicated mercenary army. The Dwarf Hold eventually fell before the events of 8th edition when the Skaven civil war came to a close and they launched a large campaign to steal the gold. With all the gold lost the various Dogs of War who used the hold as a bank sacked the hold to try to make up for their losses. I love that you knew Marcus would have a story about his hold, and that most Dwarf players have one too. We're all Dwarf freaks lol P.S GW pls give us dogs of war rules

[@mikek2662]

Nice to listen to two dwarf passionate:)

[@Dawiafterdark]

Thanks mate :)

[@eldertheory7694]

How do you take Ironbreakers as a special choice under Royal clans? It’s possible under Grand army but I don’t see that as an option in any list builder and cannot find it in the arcane journal.

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@eldertheory7694 they are in rare in royal clans that’s why he doesn’t take loads of drakes , if we mis spoke I apologise

[@wastedxlll1192]

One of my friends runs iron drakes, thunderers, and ballista. Where I run ironbreakers, thunderers, rangers, and Cannons, our games are bloodbaths. Last game I killed all by two iron drake and my king couldn't get his fat ass up the hill failed to keep up with them by one inch to kill them and took a ballista to the face

[@Dawiafterdark]

Ohhh I bet those are glorious games !!!!

[@Grundadrakk]

Ballistas are under rated , I love them

[@iJasko]

Great conversation between two excellent chaps (and veteran players). About the Ironbreakers/Irondrakes thing: Has either of you meddled with 1-2 Irondrake Detachments for a nice block of Ironbreakers? Yes we lose access to the Ironwarden and any runes, but that's dialling the "hardest unit to kill" to 11. Might have similar issues as Hesitation/Confusion Hammerers though - who in their right mind would ever charge the unit? Still, the prospect is very enticing.

[@jtrain9926]

I'm really enjoying my Dawi, they finally feel right, tough as nails, can absorb a charge from almost anything and come back swinging. My major issue with our army list is the lack of general magic defense (we should be able to take MR runes on our banners for example), or just give us a universal mastery 1 or 2 and fated against every spell cast per phase. Also our infantry needs to be 1-2 points cheaper per model.

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@jtrain9926 I think personally we have the best anti magic in the game , running runesmiths to make the unit magic res 2 taking the rune of calm and runes of spell breaking is very very strong

[@jtrain9926]

​@@Dawiafterdarkthat works well if you're using 1 or 2 big doomstack units, but gets a bit cost prohibitive if you're running a few infantry blocks and also I'm not a huge fan of every unit needing a hero to babysit it. I feel like need something to let us engage with the magic phase which we really don't have now outside of anvil.

[@ginjasteve4435]

Two stunties sharing stunty ideas doesn’t seem right. Aren’t you all meant to sit beneath your holds using the same tactics you’ve always used? That tactic being dying slowly? Great video. Really informative way of looking at the game. I know I always walk away from a loss to Richie rewriting lists from what I’ve learnt!

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@ginjasteve4435 hahaha I know right we should have just compared piles of gold and beards and that’s about it haha Cheers mate always a pleasure playing you my man !

[@HWG_tim]

For Zhufbar! Rock and stone!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Rock and stone ! Can’t wait to see your dwarfs on the field !

[@TheMurpleMan]

Chorfs also have access to an auto dispel (Vial of Lammasu Blood.) Ours costs 40 though.

[@Dawiafterdark]

I really like the access but it’s very expensive

[@JustaRandoDudeGuyMan]

The potato dragon!!

[@JohnnyTightIips]

Just hearing about ironbreakers makes me want to run: Anvil with Adamant Smiting King Grungni runesmith BSB the 500pt longbeard unit for core dwarf cart 20 ironbreakers with rune of courage and battle 5 drakes Probably not too good but it's 2 jumbo units!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Would be absolutely glorious though !!!!!

[@keithr9640]

In regard to the grudge thrower point when you said people will hide things from them. The the beauty of the GT is it’s indirect fire imo. Granted, it auto scatters but you get to drag it back 3” which almost always hits unless it’s a lone model (except monsters!). To be honest I’ll often shoot indirect at larger models or units. I’ve found I hit more often than shooting normally since I get to drift every shot back whereas anything other than a direct hit will drift off target. I agree that when I plop my army down I feel pretty confident that I can win. The dwarves are just solid. There’s no army out there I think I’m auto losing to. Except Wood Elves. They suck. lol. I haven’t cracked that code yet.

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you don't get to drift every shot back with indirect fire - it's only the ones where you roll a 'Hit'.

[@keithr9640]

@ Well shit. lol. Been playing that wrong since the book came out! Thanks for the correction.

[@cweeperz7760]

I personally simp for trollhammer, though i also roll a ton of 1s on them. Its the same damage stats as a great cannon, except +1 AP somehow! If only i could splurge 15 points per irondrake and have them all be trollhammers...

[@Dawiafterdark]

Haha I wish I just rolled better haha , I know it’s crazy they are better cannons haha That would be insane ! Can you imagine !!

[@cweeperz7760]

@Dawiafterdark yea, the best thing to counter rolling poorly seems to be rolling a butt ton of dice at the same time haha. Whenever it's a single die, chances of failing miserably rise by at least 50%. This is also why trollhammers feel so swingy lol. C'mon man! How many 2+s can you miss?

[@grynbox]

So whats the kings loadout you agreed upon is the best? Would like to see the guest list in the comment / remarks also. Great video!

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@grynbox so for me , I personally think the best for royal clans is , gromril , preservation, smiting and furnace :) cool il get that sorted ! Cheers !

[@Lawyerpants500]

I do King on shieldbearers, rune of preservation, rune of smiting, and two fury runes of attacking.

[@chrisloomis1000]

When you asked what other unit you should run for the 3K double anvil list, after thinking I arrived at iron breakers since they pack their own ward. Feels like it's about stacking buffs and unfortunately you only get 1 MRoGrungni.

[@Dawiafterdark]

Yeah it’s definitely an option !!! I’m considering a lot now I need to do some testing !!

[@t4washere384]

Seeing as I found a cheap box of Miners on Black Friday I will still try them.

[@Dawiafterdark]

Honestly it’s just me being down on them if you build a full list based on them they can still smash

[@DrDahlAX]

Why is this video only 1hour? Just hosted a small 5 player GT at my house tonight and got totaIy annihilated. Feels i need at least additional 3 hours of this kind of Dawi feel good content.

[@Dawiafterdark]

I’m sorry your karak couldn’t hold the flank my thane !! We shall regroup and send these vile invaders packing !!! I might try and do a longer one next time just for these circumstances!

[@danielmashford8920]

What am I missing with regard to getting Ironbreakers in special in a Royal Clan list?

[@Dawiafterdark]

Right so I messeged him about this , that certain event the TO let him , but his normal list is less drakes to have the breakers in rare :) weird comps I didn’t even notice !

[@danielmashford8920]

@@Dawiafterdark Okay, I thought I was being dumb for a moment. I guess you could just play it as Grand Army. You're right though - very weird comps and rulings around the world!

[@AnthonyLupfer]

Hey question about the anvil of doom and armor rune of adamant I keep getting told it’s only for the anvil and the forge master who is striking the runes does not have it is there a rule or a confusion out there about that rune and also the guards who protect the forge father don’t have the rune or do they also have it just need some clarification please

[@Dawiafterdark]

Every event I’ve every been too and it’s pretty widely considered that it’s the entire model it’s a 100 point upgrade which is crazy expensive , I’ve never even heard of anyone arguing against it actually ?

[@AnthonyLupfer]

I just screenshot it for proof lol cause I agree with you for sure

[@Lawyerpants500]

The anvil is a ridiculous physical model for many reasons, but , the multiple crew models on its weapon profile is one blob of attacks. There's no distinction between anything on it. I feel like someone making this distinction is being very pedantic. Truthfully, it's an armor rune so that would put it on the guards, not the anvil itself anyways. From shooting its toughness seven and so if it had to be on one stat line it would be on the crew and that would be at least better

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

Enjoyed the show, Marcus seems like a good guy and it was nice to hear lots of enthusiasm for the Dwarfs. Think you may have misspoken on the drilled front? I can see how you can get four redresses with the extra move from the anvil, but don't see any way it could involve charging - happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. Would still be keen to see a video on this stuff at some point!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Cheers :) glad you enjoyed it :) so if your unit is drilled you get a free redress before you move , same with follow up moves :) so you could easily get 4 redress the ranks a turn

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

@@Dawiafterdark So one before you charge, one when you follow up or overrun and then possibly one more if that's an overrun into another combat that you get to fight in and follow up again? Still only 3 even then? I must be missing something.

[@Dawiafterdark]

@ so you redress when you move normally , then move again with the anvil , then you can when you charge , then again when you overrun or follow up :) you can drill in normal Moves mate :)

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

@@Dawiafterdark But you can't move normally and charge on the same turn even with the anvil.

[@Dawiafterdark]

Sorry I meant turn as in whole turn not player round sorry that’s my bad for not clarifying!

[@Stormoak]

Ironbreakers can take the Irondrakes as a Detachment which can be also very effective because the Drakes can make a stand and Shoot without being attacked themself. The only downside is to sacrifice the Trollhammer Torpedo Veteran. Which ist a Hard choice but i will try it

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@Stormoak the only problem I’ve found with this is a clever player will just charge the irondrakes !

[@Stormoak]

​@@Dawiafterdark This could happen of course but its a question of Position Play and as an Empire Veteran i can admit that Detachments can be also very useful to manoveur an attacking opponent in an Bad angle for him

[@Dawiafterdark]

@ I think a massive unit of drakes would be good as a detachment aswell rather than little ones tbf !

[@Justin_Sane3000]

You mention in the Video, that you can Redress the ranks 4 times per turn with anvil rune. What am I missing? I only arrive at two times. It says that per movement only one manoeuvre is allowed.

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@Justin_Sane3000 hey sorry I misspoke I meant the whole turn not the player round sorry , so charge overrun move and then move again

[@cweeperz7760]

My hold is called the Karak Umgak! Because all my dwarfs are crafted out of paper and glue! haha! I got 3k worth of just paper dwarfs :D

[@mathiasjossen2953]

2d or what?

[@cweeperz7760]

@mathiasjossen2953 3D!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Ohhh amazing ! Love that

[@MiniaturePlayer]

How are they moving so far in one turn?

[@Dawiafterdark]

So you can take the vangaurd banner . To get a free three inch move , then in marching collum with the beer cart move 12 inch’s , then move again with the anvil buff

[@zeldaaddicted6686]

I bring you good Yuletide Lore News! SPOILER for Thorgrims story! You're WRONG about the lore in a delightful way! Krak a Drak RE-ESTABLISHES contact with the Karaz Ankor after the Great War Against Chaos. How? Only literally the reason why Thorgrim becomes High King! Be honored! They join Kislev due to oaths they made to them just like how the regular Dwarfs made Oaths to the Empire. They show up at the Battle of Kislev(not the Siege of Praag because they're slow) They fight alongside Kislev! Thorgrim joins up with them afterward & wanders together with them & his own entourage. Helps them with monsters & stragglers from the horde retreating after the defeat at Kislev. Then he & the northern Holds emmissaries march South, clearing the Underway all the way home to Karaz a Karak. There the High King (Thorgrims uncle, gotta love Dawi Nepotism!) sees what alliance Thorgrim has rekindled & chooses him as the next High King. There is a bit of conflict stating in some sources that Thorgrim first travelled with his uncle home, then the High King announced the "Competition of Deeds" to determine the High King & that it was Thorgrims plan, re-establishing contact with the Dwarfs he met during the battle by marching north now that they knew the Holds weren't lost. They do die, but that's later, like 8th Ed/present times right before End Times kick in sortof.

[@Dawiafterdark]

The Yuletide miracle of the creation of the high king himself !!! Rests upon the Saturday backs of kaka drak ! Tis a great honour !!! Seasons greetings !! Hope you have ana amazing festive period !

[@Jay110785]

Great video, thx for the insights. Any chance you get a lizardman to talk to anytime soon?

[@morerobotwarscontent1476]

8th edition had loads of infatry and that looked least like warhammer. Everyone was asking where the monsters were haha.

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@morerobotwarscontent1476 it’s a slightly unpopular opinion but I really liked 7th edition you had infantry and cav like 6th but monsters too , the problem is whatever is strongest in one edition people will always just want other things to be haha

[@Grimmrog]

sad is that expeditionary lists did not get extra rune budget on engineers. In fact even if engineers are not allowed in the royal army, you can have the best mobile artillery in form of characters. Having a Thane or King shooting 2 shots always on 3+ with each bursting into 2D3 is amazing, especially considering that you can use that as stand and shoot reaction which makes those losses count as combat res. I do also love the drakes in blocks of 5. Too bad they are off the list from expeditionary lists. Miners should be core. Because EACH dwarf lerns to mine in his Life. We do not hate the old world rules, but it has just major rule holes which make some situations ridiculously stupid. Linehammer is a good example for it. A dude standing behind another dude cannot step foward to hammer the opponent. But a dude basically 50m away can. It's a battle system and should be a fun abstraction of a battle. But some rules are beyond both, fun and proper abstraction.The tournament I go to end of february says no more than 2 modles away from the sides can attack back. Which is a good reasonable implemention. I also do love leaving my Kings between the troops, mostly because they cannot be aimed at anyways (rare exceptions included) and you can then more easily hop into the right unit that needs him. I agree also with longbeards being the top core choice, in fact it's sad that core is such a bad imbalanced choice. thats what the 7th edition did more fluffy, you needed to bring something else to unlock the longbeards. However, a huge full core Rangers squad is dope too, especially with throwing axes to ALWAYS get stand and shoot. With BF 4 they aren't too bad. And now some crazy stuff, usually tournament legit list (because most tournaments here say each unit max 3x. ). If not limited you can even seperate the regular gyros into indivudual ones for better maneuvrebility. Guns'N'Gyros 2497 / 2500 - Gyro guns and runes as well as using a BSB is optional as usually just no bsb here because I wanted most points in the air for more crazyness. ++ Charaktere [254 Pts.] ++ Sappeur-Engineer [132 Pts.] (Greatweapon, Handgun, General, Rune of Concussive Force, Rune ofAccuracy) Engineer [122 Pts.] (Greatweapon, Handgun, Expeditionary Marksman, , Rune of Rapid Fire, Master Rune of Bursting Flame) ++ Core [628 Pts.] ++ 2 Scout-Gyrocopter [120 Pts.] [Clattergun] 2 Scout-Gyrocopter [120 Pts.] [Clattergun] 27 Thunderer [388 Pts.] (Handwaffen, Musketen, Schwere Rüstung, Zweihandwaffen, Schilde, Expeditionsschützen, Veteran (Champion) [Handgun], Musiker) ++ Special [1320 Pts.] ++ 2 Scout-Gyrocopter [120 Pts.] [Clattergun] 6 Gyrocopter [360 Pts.] [Steamgun] 6 Gyrocopter [420 Pts.] [Clattergun] 6 Gyrocopter [420 Pts.] [Clattergun] ++ Rare [295 Pts.] ++ Gyrobomber [105 Pts.] [Clattergun] Gyrobomber [95 Pts.] [Steamgun] Gyrobomber [95 Pts.] [Steamgun] Instead of Thunderers a block of longbeards would probably be more durable especially with BSB for more passive Combat result rune banners, but less crazy, So I just took no banners to avoid any kind of points for the opponents. And then fingers crossed no lady or skaven anti flight magic comes up xD I do however wonder, the rune of concussion, how viable would it be for Warmachine protecting engineers to try shooting enemy units stupid. lower Warmachine hunting LD units away from their Standard my be good targets. I don't get your fancy happiness for the MR-1 and bannign runes, because usually enemies play those stupid vortexes vs dwarves and do not choose the direct damage spells. And given that even our best "level" Wizard is only 3 with less range and immbility than lvl 4 mages most opponents usually use, they just try to spell down dwarfs with their better range and shitty vortexes. And yes everyone of us has his own hold. :P

[@Dawiafterdark]

I absolutely love that guns and gyros list ! Hahaha that’s absolutely amazing ! I find it really weird how the TO has ruled the supporting attacks . I get it though ! Ummm so for concussion it can be clutch it’s just a shame the flame cannon doesn’t reduce leadership or force panics like it used too or those combined would be amazing

[@Grimmrog]

@Dawiafterdark I agree, the Flamecannon is like absolutely the loser of the edition. It should have 30 range and able to alter the artillery dice by the crews BF either for or backwards. But getting hits into the target is too unreliable and with only -1 to armor its quity puny. Or give it a poison like rule, if poison can wound on 6 so should a thrown out lake of fire. But if GW were much more creative, they could have made Flamecannons something really cool, like placing a small template on the table for 1 turn. That makes every model entering it taking fire damage, like S4 -2. So flamecannons would be a sort of utility spell like.

[@That_Rat_Bastrd]

Heyy Dyslexic's Untie! Also can I hire you to read my rule for me 😂

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@That_Rat_Bastrd genuinely read that as unite 😂😂😂😂 mate your army would suddenly get better that’s for sure 😂😂

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

This business about having to drill both sides because of the command group. Doesn't seem that strong an argument as you're not obliged to even have a command group - and it would be perverse if a unit with one could do less manoeuvres than one without so I would have thought when you have one they would just shuffle to the centre once you're done redressing. If anything I'd have thought the best argument for having to go both sides would be the diagram in the book, but then who thinks you get a full range of diagrams for any given subject in that book?!

[@Dawiafterdark]

@@ClydeMillerWynant unfortunately it’s not my argument mate . It’s been ruled that by the TO’s I wish it wasn’t but if that’s the way it’s been agreed to play then gotta go with that unfortunately

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

@@Dawiafterdark Oh I get that - and one of the things this channel is useful for is getting to find out how the tournament scene are playing certain rules so I'm always interested to find out regardless of whether that fits how I've read things or not. Obviously the channel is also good for nicer things - like competitive Dwarf players being asked (and of course being able to answer) what their Hold is called and what its backstory is!

[@Dawiafterdark]

@ I feel the most important questions are what is your story for your mountain hold 😂😂

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

@@Dawiafterdark Well mine's called Karak Kennen. It's named after a fantastically situated Welsh castle (Carreg Cennen near Llandeilo). The hold is in a part of the Black Mountains (of the Old World) which bears a striking resemblance to the Black Mountains in Wales which you will be familiar with as they're only a few miles from you. I go to Hereford quite a bit as I've got family there and make the kids walk up hills on what I would consider the right side of the border whenever I can. Carreg Cennen is actually more 'Black Mountain' area than 'Black Mountains i.e. much further west but I like the name so what the hell. The bois are (disappointingly slowly) getting painted up in the colours of the four professional Welsh rugby teams and the various characters, units and clans have names based either in Welsh history/mythology or just silly puns to do with matters Welsh. Essentially my aim is to reclaim the Dwarfs for the Welsh in defiance of The Lord of the Rings films and I don't care if nobody else gets the jokes!

[@Dawiafterdark]

Yes !!! Absolutely love that ! We will have to try and get a game in sometime when your over this end :)

[@pal3479]

talking about GT wins without a list is like talking about a song without listening to it. 🥲

[@Dawiafterdark]

So I didn’t post it because the TO at his event let him take ironbreakers in special in a royal clans list , so for events outside of that event the list is illegal . So don’t want people copying it :) sorry about that