The Top 10 Strongest Nations in Imperator: Rome

In this video we will be checking out the strongest and most powerful nations in Imperator: Rome, the newest 4x strategy game from Paradox Interactive. These countries dominate their respective regions, and provide the player with immense economies, unique events, huge populations and powerful militaries. Join me today as we dive in and explore the best nations to check out for your very first playthrough. Subscribe for more Imperator: Rome and strategy gaming content weekly!
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[@AlzaboHD]

The nice folks over at Paradox Interactive have given me early access to Imperator Rome and today we will take a look at the strongest nations to jump start your first campaigns! What future Imperator: Rome content would you like to see? Guides? More top 10s? Let me know in the comments! See you on the next video!

[@christiandauz3742]

Have you heard of the Alexander Inheritance by Eric Flint? It's a time travel book in which a Modern Day Luxury Cruiser is sent back to 323 BCE! They change history FAST and DRASTICALLY as they prevent much of the civil wars that decimated Alexander's Empire

[@MrMaiaBang]

If you could cover interesting countries, like the top 10 nations when played by players, or top10 underestimated nations to play, id be thankful bro! Glad to see you active like this again

[@stuartnicklin650]

Its basilius again, not Basilia, you latinised that Greek.

[@hopseshopsidis]

Its "Salve, amici". "amicae" are girl friends

[@SkuLLetjaH]

"That's right, they can deploy elephants" Cersei: *Heavy breathing*

[@user-th1wj2su2m]

It's so nice of the greeks to carve out their empire in a way that will make it balance for us in the future 2,000 years later to play.

[@eniotanaka2229]

Kenji Wolf underrated comment

[@nickpaschentis5284]

We Greeks can Predict the Future and Thus We Help future Generations.

[@SylvainsRamblings]

Are you the WatchMojo of Paradox games?

[@AlzaboHD]

I ship that. Thanks for watching!

[@space_lemonz4561]

Except enjoyable

[@SylvainsRamblings]

@@space_lemonz4561 yes

[@colinlohden9359]

Yes he is and its honestly amazing.

[@spacedoutorca4550]

Nah, if he were there would be videos like: *”Top Ten Hairstyles for Characters in Imperator Rome.”*

[@punishedwhirligig3353]

Imperator Rome’s map looks like if the entirety of Europe looked like the HRE

[@johnjaeger2968]

As it was always meant to be

[@alexg3911]

Voltaires nightmare

[@spenserdeardorff2737]

I like how every single successor kingdom you said was "undoubtedly the strongest".

[@foxdavion6865]

Historically Maurya suddenly and swiftly stopped expansion and conquest when her ruler was shocked at what horror he caused at the end of a rather brutal battle; Suddenly converted to buddhism then spent the rest of his life trying to make his empire a wonderful place to live for his subjects only for it to collapse half a century after his death.

[@kaustubhjoshi8248]

He was Emperor Ashoka Maurya

[@TonyStark-nz3db]

Ashoka the great Best time of Ancient India was during Maurya Empire.

[@collinhicks37]

"Whatever you do, don't give Rome back their legions" God damn it, Varus, you had one job. Augustus will not be pleased (Love the reference)

[@jacobcantrell82]

Hopefully they given Maurya some obstacles to prevent it from always dominating the east like a Indian Mingsplosion

[@Alex-ec4wu]

Nooooooo I want to snake west and conquer Rome before they become a pest.

[@bluemountain4181]

Historically Ashoka the emperor of Maurya converted to Buddhism and became something of a pacifist, declining to start expansionist wars. Maybe that's reflected in the game somehow.

[@arkadefire5909]

@@bluemountain4181 Well in the devs clash they were able to bully pretty hard Maurya, even tho it was played by a play and not an AI. Although, they had to attack him 2 at a time. So yes it's quite possible to restrain Maurya if you play yourself in Inda, but I wouldn't count too much on the AI to do it for you, except maybe if the Selucid Empire survives and steps in.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

@@Alex-ec4wu Rome can't get past tribes in the Alpines.

[@lek1223]

i feel that the strenght of Murya is probably that its all the same culture and religion (mostly) in the area, making it easy to consolidate and hold, but literally everything else on the map is so diffrent from them, making it hard to expand without massive unrest issues. Maybe.

[@just4funyay804]

*DEUS VUL-* wait sorry wrong game *ZEUS VULT*

[@slowmoe1686]

Zeus Bolt more like

[@akai4942]

Well, is latin, so IVPITER VVLT

[@DarthSanguine]

@@artaig So basically Zeus = The Godfather? :D

[@adamthetired9319]

@@DarthSanguine, more like "SkyFather".

[@nickpaschentis5284]

Zeus Thelin (Zeus Wills It) In Greek

[@junkystuff3628]

Mauyra is probably gonna get nerfed like the ming.

[@Rodzyniastyyyy]

Can't wait to see Mauyraplosion.

[@literallynothinghere9089]

But then we will see early colonisation of India in every single game by the Seleucids. If Maurya is nerfed then Seleucids should also be nerfed.

[@YourNemesis23]

@@literallynothinghere9089 seleucids actually looked like collapsing (or did so) in every timelapse i've seen so far, well before phrygias historic demise.. don't like that at all tbh...

[@Benji567891]

I hope Indias cultural and religious diversity is shown in game so that the Empire struggles from the inside like in real life.

[@Spaced92]

@@YourNemesis23 Yeah Seleucids are a joke even though they became the dominant successor state. They even specifically chose the start so Seleucids weren't too powerful, AND they break apart before they can do anything. At best they just keep the land they already had.

[@diamondinthesky4771]

Forming Persia as Armenia Now that is a plot twist

[@TheNavid001]

I love "Zoro-Austrians"

[@alexander1055]

before the Habsburgs, there were the Zoro's.

[@archdukefranzferdinand567]

What about Ulm?

[@AlzaboHD]

Ulm into formable nation, let's see the modders do their thing on the 25th!

[@rateeightx]

Dang It You Did It Before Me!!!

[@whodis3489]

Boi is the new Ulm.

[@rateeightx]

@@whodis3489 You Mean Boii, The Name Of Three Tribes In Europe, One In Aquitania, One In Bohemia, And One In Italia?

[@archdukefranzferdinand567]

@@whodis3489 From what I've seen, Boii actually seems quite powerful, they're in a very good position, since it lets them conquer Gaulish land while blocking off Rome

[@bigheart2221]

I would play Etruria just for that purple

[@Tsukuyomi28]

Purple is the noblest shroud.

[@realhawaii5o]

Chandragupta. No relation to Gupta. He conquered India. But not the Tamil kings. Nobody conquers the Tamil Kings. Also, can you maybe chill, Alexander? Here are elephants.

[@whodis3489]

The British conquered the tamil kings so thats not correct. Plus the tamil kings paid tribute to Ashoka anyway so thats not correct they were allowed to be autonomus due to Ashoka's buddhist beliefs otherwise they would have bled just like Kalinga.

[@themark2medic216]

Who Dis r/woooooooosh

[@Xazamas]

@@themark2medic216 history of the entire world by bill wurtz

[@realhawaii5o]

Can we make a religion out of this?

[@meandmetoo8436]

@@realhawaii5o no don't

[@lek1223]

this was great, most top 10 videos are often like 'rome is great, so thats why they are number 1, and randompower 2 is also good but not as great, so they are nr 2' you went in depth as much as is reasonable to do, making this so much better than the usual top 10 videos!

[@zdhim2714]

You didn't joke when you said that you're coming back, glad to see you this active.

[@nikoof498]

♪ Time to conquer all of India ♪

[@TheWeebaguette]

♪ Most of India ♪

[@NDouthwaite]

Maybe you should make. Eu4 guide: essential military idea groups. Maybe?

[@ShaunhanM]

He probably will but tbh its pretty simple for military. They are all good cept for Naval. Some are better early but even the more late game ones dont hurt early

[@AlzaboHD]

It's in the works! Been busy recently and had to try my hands at Imperator. It's a really fun game! Thanks for watching.

[@klodpraisor]

-neither greek roman or western IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING HRE REFERENCE

[@preuensgloria8725]

Well, the HRE was very much western

[@klodpraisor]

Preußens Gloria you realize the joke here is voltaire, right?

[@preuensgloria8725]

@@klodpraisor Of course, I'm just saying that this characteristic doesn't apply to the HRE

[@catofwar119]

“Neither holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire” that’s the joke this guy was referencing, the neither Greek Roman or western was a variant of this joke, I really like it how you still don’t get it after he said it’s a Voltaire joke and posted 2 comments not understanding it.

[@preuensgloria8725]

@@catofwar119 I know the quote and got the joke the first time around. You are clearly the one who doesn't understand what I was trying to say, after, guess what, explaining it twice.

[@BromTeque]

I’m a little sad that the games start after the fall of Alexander’s Empire and Rome is already «powerful». Should’ve started 20 years earlier if you ask me, but they did the same thing with EU4 so it’s just Paradox being Paradox I guess.

[@christiandauz3742]

Read Alexander Inheritance by Eric Flint Modern Luxury Cruiser goes back in time to two years after Alexander's death Imagine Potato Guns/Steam Cannons firing LEAD Balls and ripping Triemes to shreds! 20 Hoplites vs 1 Woman with a loaded gun

[@williamshie4326]

Yeah, I wanted to play as Eumenes but unfortunately he is already dead at the start of the game

[@alex180111]

Can't you smell the DLC coming?

[@iamhere6893]

Dpc upcoming

[@ClnlBogey]

Well I for one hope that more start dates are added like Eu4. That is always fun.

[@CourtlySeaDog]

"the great empire that alexander spent a lifetime building" i mean sure, if by lifetime you mean 13 years

[@nader50752]

Considering he died at 38? That's literally a third of his life

[@zahirsabra7890]

@KORAX14 IERAX 32

[@JB-xl2jc]

And not to mention most people don’t conquer much stuff at the age of 1-15

[@silversaru5196]

@@JB-xl2jc Fool. I conquered Italy at the age of 2 years old and I make it great again

[@Madhattersinjeans]

And on top of that, his father did most of the legwork to build up the army making it a powerful force. Alexander merely piloted the mech his dad built. He piloted it well though, i'll give him that.

[@Darthvegeta8000]

Sparta, Macedon, Epirus and Rome are the ones I Will usually end up playing. Was the Same for me in EU Rome. Keep up the Good work!

[@AlzaboHD]

Those are solid choices! Thank you for watching.

[@ADCD-dj8gz]

It’s nice that you’re posting so often again!

[@AlzaboHD]

Thank you! More content planned for next week so stay tuned

[@christianholbrook2686]

*DEUS VUL-* Oh sorry wrong game.

[@caucasusmapper7098]

*ZEUS VULT*

[@DekuNutss]

IMPERIUM SINE FINE DEDI

[@mkultrabaked6190]

Are you ever gonna release the Iberian Exodus? Just wondering.

[@AlzaboHD]

Yes! I completely forgot. Thanks for the reminder

[@mkultrabaked6190]

AlzaboHD Thanks! That’s awesome! Glad you responded.

[@PM1871]

I swear, Phrygia will become the Byzantium of Imperator: Rome.

[@vicentgalvan70]

More like the Ottomans.

[@PM1871]

@@vicentgalvan70 Nah. I think the Mauryas would fit that category.

[@SuperCrow02]

What about Byzantion?

[@is3t]

@@SuperCrow02 Byzantinium Empire was a part of the Roman Empire, but after the fall of Rome the capital has been Costantinople ( Byzantium )... Actually It was Roman

[@SuperCrow02]

@@is3t yeah but phrygia wasn't part of Rome yet, how is it more Byzantium than Byzantion?

[@SamIAmSXE]

First video I went for as I was starting up Imperator. Love your EU4 videos. Please make more Imperator content.

[@AlzaboHD]

Thank you for the awesome compliment! I am working on more imperator content as we speak. Cheers

[@templarlad392]

Okay, this is epic.

[@twilightverdict]

Phyrygian one-eyed pirate dude looks menacing!

[@SpanishDio]

sir excellent video! you just earned a Subscriber!

[@AlzaboHD]

Thank you for watching! Cheers

[@krankarvolund7771]

Okay, now I want to play with Egypt, Rome and Maurya ^^

[@rorentin]

Hold on, we're clearing missing the superpower BOI, such an underdog they are.

[@ericsaxon5736]

I think you forgot to take into consideration that Rome, gets CBs by event. And if you don't start unnecessary wars, the game will feed you claims like a mama bird feeds her hatchlings.

[@zdhim2714]

Well, what a surprise, I actually was betting on Phrygia to be on top, mostly because... Ahem... Well, Ottomans.

[@maxhill4370]

they almost always collapse early, like the seleucids

[@zdhim2714]

@@maxhill4370 Oh, so they are the Qara/Aq of IRome ?

[@zdhim2714]

Also, no China ?

[@TheLoughDuck55]

Imzo Bud the timruids of Imperator

[@heavenwatcher100]

@@zdhim2714 I bet China(western protectorate) will appear in the future as a dlc feature related to the silk road, similar to the jade dragon of ck2.

[@Timrath]

I love how you pronounce "Hellas" the correct way, unlike most English speakers.

[@AlzaboHD]

This might be the only thing I pronounced correctly, haha. Thank you for watching

[@Alex_FRD]

I can't wait for the $300 of DLC that will be released over the next decade. Paradox turned games into love services long before the AAA publishers did.

[@scoobydoobers23]

And I love it. They actually support the games and improve them for years to come.

[@Alex_FRD]

@@scoobydoobers23 If you buy each DLC.

[@adrianjezierski8093]

Cant wait for all dlcs on piratebay

[@randompillow5146]

This did not age well.

[@liampouncy7808]

Top content as usual Alzabo. More of the same tbh my dude. It's a nice distraction to hear your thoughts whenever you pop up in my subscription feed.

[@AlzaboHD]

Thank you for the nice comment! Planning on more releases this week so stay tuned, thanks for watching.

[@Delzak1]

Bro you're the man, man!

[@Albiorix]

I'm waiting on those EU4 military ideas video. I hope Imperator doesn't delay those!

[@AlzaboHD]

Its coming soon!

[@ebbtides]

cheeky b&b reference in the Maurya section. Jai Bhole Ki!

[@derlorenz]

Great and useful video! Just to know, diadochi or diádochoi it sounds as you read it (diadoki), not like a Japanese name daiadoshi.

[@hugod2000]

really good video. thanks for posting

[@CherriPicking]

I'm rather interested in the Greco-Bactrians, personally. Quite an interesting little nation, the furthest East fringes of Alexander's empire, I think it'd be interesting to conquer Central Asia and eventually the Mauryans, hellenize India for the hell of it.

[@AlzaboHD]

Bactria looks really interesting! How would you plan to break free of the Seleucids? Wait for Maurya to declare and annex them?

[@CherriPicking]

@@AlzaboHD Ahhh, for some reason I didn't realize that they started out as a subject of the Seleucids. I assume that they're going to act a bit like a timmy analogue, possibly, but betting on the Mauryans might be a good bet as well.

[@Vidrageon]

3:44 Armenia will remember that...

[@LordAcul]

Just fyi, you're incorrect about Phrygia losing their claims on the diadochi on the ruler's death. It's like that for the rest of the diadochi but they keep their claims till the death of their second ruler, Demetrius (probably). Also needs to take Corinth within their first ruler's life otherwise they can start to collapse

[@tristankeech4070]

Top ten most difficult factions next?

[@Jayis4Justice]

Hey did you get your monetization back? This just happened to me as well. It’s tragic.

[@AlzaboHD]

I appealed KZbin on twitter by tweeting @teamyoutube. Ask them for a second look and say you believe your channel was demonetized falsely. I wish you luck!

[@TheRealAgemo]

Nice video, but oh, the pronunciations!

[@AlzaboHD]

It's a brand trademark at this point. To be fair, I don't know of accurate places to source pronunciations of names in Classical Greek. Any recommendations? Thanks for watching

[@TheRealAgemo]

Pretty much all 'C's should be pronounced as 'K's if you want the proper greek pronunciation. Seleucid "Seh-loo-kid", Macedonia with "k" as if you were to say macro, etc.

[@lmarr12]

"phy"-"re"-"kia"

[@DarthSanguine]

Rather than converting the religion of pops, it's better to convert their culture, as this provides a greater boost to pop happiness. Though ideally you want to do both. Plus religeous power isn't hard to come by, and so you can manually convert pops once you have a surplus of it.

[@matheusbarbosa4438]

Just curious, how are the Parthians in-game? By far the nation I'm looking forward the most after Carthage.

[@g0lanu]

I tend to disagree with the list. It really depends on the player's preferred playstyle. For example, starting as Egypt, Seleucid, Maurya, and even Phrygia or Carthage if you have slight OCD is not going to be a good recipe for fun. You're more likely to drop the game. For these people Rome/Macedon would rank on the top 2 positions, Rome has it particularly easier for early expansion. I found it difficult even to deal with Carthage's problems - it's not that it was a too difficult starting position, it was simply tedious. I much rather deal with a mess of my own making rather than to solve the gridlock puzzle of pops and scathered territories the devs devised for us. I would even consider cheats to ameliorate the situation, you either have the stomach for it or not. Maybe it's not a newb friendly start, but an OP start is also in the N-W corner of the map because you don't meat any superpowers for some time. You slowly begin your pre-viking tribal empire and trample every other nation on the map in mid to late game with ease, showing them better and more honest ways. You have to min-max a bit for a while, but despite starting with an apparently weaker nation, your position is so safe and allows you to expand on so much territoriy in relative safety that the other super powers won't be able to compete with you when you finally get closer to their borders.

[@FoeReaper]

So you're telling me, Rome isn't the strongest country in a game about Rome?

[@meandmetoo8436]

I mean, in EU4 the game is about Europe and the strongest countries are Ming China and the Ottoman empire.

[@meandmetoo8436]

@Sugarz not that much. France's expansion is challengend by Burgundy (which starts off as strong as France.) And Austria which may allies with your clay and will directly be a neighboring cockblock after the inheritance. Also, expanding in Europe is a headache as coalitions forms very quicky. As opposed to the middle east where the Ottomans can expand without caring for AE and with only rival being the Mamluks. France is strong but it is only one of the dominant European powers not the power of the region.

[@sephikong8323]

@@meandmetoo8436 It's moreso in the early game, and it has *many* ways to expand. Seriously, a semi competent player can conquer western Europe in less than 150 years as France. I know I did it a few times and I definitely am not that good at the game, you just have to time it right and have a little rng on your side (just keep switching between England, Italy, North Africa the lowlands and Iberia (unless like me you have Castille inherit the lowlands and you then get a PU on them. It just makes things easier but it can be done even without). The Protestant reformation is just your greatest ally by dividing your enemies thus allowing you to be more aggressive in Europe (I'd suggest to only go after the lowlands after the reformation has gained a strong foothold, and once it has started you can start pushing in Italy as well since it will no longer be part of the empire and the catholics will be more divided). So I'd say that it is quite the overpowered country yes if you know at least somewhat how to play them, and unlike the Ming, they aren't an idle giant that does jackshit. Sure it's start is a little more difficult but you can snowball very very fast

[@meandmetoo8436]

@@sephikong8323 you are right, but what you just described can also be done as England, Austria (just as easily) or Aragon/Castille and Burgundy (a bit harder for those two.) Heck I did it with Naples (with a lucky PU that is.) Which is what I mean by "france has competition" The only location that compare to Europe in term of competitivity is India with a lot of big states of comparable size and smaller ones. It also has multiple religions. India and Europe are the only regions without one or two regional superpower towering over everyone else. Maybe the Malian region share this to an extent. The middle-east is just dominated by the Ottomans. But at least they have the mamluks acting as a challenge, in East Asia, Ming is just god and you do whatever you want. Even better if you get rid of the mandate

[@VitoScorcesse]

I mean its just an oppinion. The power of Rome comes from it military and scientific advancement. I bet Romes mid to late game is OP. Its just how it is. The faction the game was made about is weak in the beggining to give players an interesting challenge, because of course everyone wants to play as Rome in a game about Rome. So it makes sense mid and late game will be OP compared to anyone else, so you actually can feel like Rome when you play. Like in any strategy game ever made :) The most epic country IRL is always challenging to start with, but becomes a GOD when you start getting into the mid game.

[@Beachdudeca]

They really need to increase the problem of Revolts in regions that are outside your main culture group

[@GLitchesHaxandBadAudio]

As for a suggestion of difficult yet fun and interesting, I direct you towards Scotland having watch The Spiffing Brit recently, and seen the isolated tech exploiting powers they hold.

[@austingresham349]

Excellent video.

[@johndrakos8192]

Diadochi is spelled like this: the-ath-oh-he not : diodachi. that sounds way too japanese for any greek not cringe at. Also fun fact, diadochi means successors

[@thepunisher4356]

I’m curious, how powerful is Chola in the game? I know sometime within the timespan of the game they become a powerful southern Indian Empire but I’m interested in what those ideas are.

[@harshupadhayay5520]

cholas colonized most of south east asia ,spice and malacan islands

[@bluescreen7028]

cant wait to play as judea and conquer rome, it should be an achievement

[@FetovLP]

Now make this type of videos for HoI4 Vic2, CK2 and Eu3

[@Colteor7761]

I feel like you meant Hoi4 but Hoi1 sounds more like a train wreck so do that

[@michelcote2211]

Glade I found your channel.

[@AlzaboHD]

Thank you for your nice comment!

[@michelcote2211]

@@AlzaboHD i found so much hate for Imperator: Rome on all reviews, but I like the game, sure not perfect but hell its very playable and people like you are letting us know the little dark secrets for a para game.

[@NotKnafo]

4:40 why bizarrely? ancient Armenian cult used to be fairly close to Persian

[@thejadondaviscommentaries1613]

*when you realize this is not the comment section of the ad you're watching*

[@XXLPIakat]

You totally forgot about Thrace whenever you talked about the Alexander successors. xD

[@WTFisDrifting]

Maurya never expanded west due to one battle and a peace treaty. I wonder if that’s possible in this game. More so. I wonder what the world the would have looked like if the Greeks didn’t stop them.

[@AlzaboHD]

The peace treaty is a possible outcome of a triggered event at campaign start. It is absolutely possible in game! You can either sign the treaty or declare war on the Seleucids

[@withche07]

I wish they add Xiongnu as well, they were meant to be military powerhouse

[@daboiofbois1453]

*cries in spartan"*

[@Luredreier]

1:42 You can colonize neighboring regions as a non-migratory tribe too. The point with being migratory is that you can settle regions that's some distance away. 2:40 Actually, they're not Latin at all. Rome was formed by Latin tribes. But they weren't. Italy was quite ethnically diverse at this point in time.

[@thatundeadlegacy2985]

360p baby

[@AlzaboHD]

Dedicated fan! I dig it!

[@math2222322]

Can't wait to play Pyrus and go est instead of west.

[@Wo0dGlue]

cant wait for the Byzantion guides

[@AuroraBoBora]

Can't wait to salt the Earth where Rome once stood

[@harrysam6100]

I really wish they would do a game like this or ck2 set in east Asia!

[@michaelflores791]

“Abort Rome in its infancy” Weird phrasing bro...

[@InternetHandle123]

Michael Flores Yeah I laughed like what the fuck hahaha I’m not mad though

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

AI is shot. Rome can't escape the peninsula, getting past a tribe, even with 10 times the manpower.

[@matthewwolverton9742]

"Rebel Wack-a-Mole". A phrase I will use now

[@Geraduss]

What about creating the "Holy What, Roman Who, Empire Where?" I need this to be an achievement, creating the later HRE by conquering and settling the territories as a Germanic migratory tribe start.

[@blackoutninja]

This looks to me like the Game Rome II should have been "You are the son that I should have had"

[@freyrds8870]

How would Syracuse rank? I'd think being one of the largest Greeks cities would mean a relatively easy start (if we ignore Carthage being next to you).

[@TuffLP]

"Get the hell out of here" - Chandragupta Maurya

[@vardansimonyan966]

Armenia really needs some culture dlc. there is nothing non-persian except for the kingdom and city names

[@Sion879]

Go Seleucids!

[@ArthaxtaDaVince777]

Why can Armenia for Persia, that makes no sense. Is Paradox alluding to the Armenians being Persians, that is not historically accurate. It would have been more accurate if it was Pontus, since they were Persians. But having Armenia form Persia, is like having Persia form the Seleucid Empire.

[@alexander1055]

I think it's as accurate as the Ottomans forming the HRE in EU4, no?

[@ArthaxtaDaVince777]

@@alexander1055 Yeah these paradox games make no sense. Also Armenians are black people in the game, like wtf...

[@Caesar--]

Phrygia and Seleucid empire both have events to literally fall apart coupled with huge amounts of wrong religion/culture pops + old rulers, awkward expansion, and seleucids even go to war with the #1 power in the game at the start. Why are they 2nd and 3rd strongest over something like rome or carthage? Sure they start with more pops and armies but they have WAYYYY less potential to grow quickly and more importantly safely.

[@AlzaboHD]

I actually ran a test timelapse and they both survived the entire campaign. I think they might be more stable than originally thought but ymmv

[@mateuszmazur6246]

Jeez, english pronounciation just butchers greek language :/

[@AlzaboHD]

I definitely agree. I never learned Greek and it certainly shows. Thanks for watching.

[@sneedwashere]

Why are the Seleucids #3 when you had almost no good things to say about playing them?

[@Langeng1]

who knows, but they where the moast successful of the diadochi historically.

[@sneedwashere]

Langeng1 Historically maybe but from what I’ve seen in game they never seem to last until the end while Macedon and Egypt usually expand beyond their starting borders.

[@Langeng1]

@@sneedwashere the game seem to be good at replicating what happened about 160-180 years after the games starting date, where the Selucids are hit with rome defending egypt (for theyr needed food imports), succession war, rebellions and phartia striking from the east all at once. to me they seem to be the hardest major power to start as, but if you are able to stabilize you have the 2. moast pops ingame and Seleucus is a pretty awesome opening ruler.

[@twinknationalism745]

I can't wait until someone comes up with a ridiculous cheese strat that catapults some tiny tribe to the top of this list

[@bluemountain4181]

I want to see which nation becomes what Byzantium is to EU4, or Ethiopia to HOI.

[@unfetteredparacosmian]

BOI

[@thesurfinsuricate]

great! :)

[@RomulanCommander]

Hmm, an Etruscan Empire does sound pretty nice

[@GaGProds]

16:58 Well somebody has been watching Bald and bankrupt

[@AlzaboHD]

Guilty as charged!

[@Lucas_Antar]

Can’t wait for the Jesus DLC

[@noellaue5324]

How is sparta?

[@hershkrukover7846]

the game isn't even released yet and you upload this game

[@AlzaboHD]

Yes, I was given a pre release key from Paradox

[@94Newbie]

rome really should be ranked higher. the italian peninsula is prime real estate. valuable goods, lots of pops with same religion and within the same culture group. also nobody to really challenge your position in italy if you expand fast enough. its also an extremly easy to defend homeland using a few forts and a strong navy, making it possible for you to recover even when loosing major battles. carthage is even more defensible but their early expansion is slowed heavily by them being a ruling minority. the italian military traditions are also god tier. just stack up those heavy infantry bonuses. only thing strong against heavy infantry is horse archers and elephants, both of wich are out of reach of most enemies, except carthage. untill you face the persians wich can field both you can expand endlessly in iberia, gallia and greece.

[@Razzor012YT]

Eventually the Maurya will be nerfed due to being very OP

[@colt6320]

drinking game: take a shot every time he says "preeminent"

[@AlzaboHD]

Uh oh, ill bring the stomache pump

[@frannyherb6773]

Sick JoJo reference at 8:28

[@aconexofficial]

Im already hyped as fk for that game :D

[@reeper147]

What do you make of Ulutia? I colonized all of Ireland as them before Rome united Italy, along with conquering most of the UK. They are fun so far