The Top 100 Magic: The Gathering Cards of All Time (#60-51)

[@firethunder834]

"When did the Power Nine become the Power Fifty-One?" Tremendous.

[@Alena_Sneaky]

The next part of our beloved „Is this card actually better than Wheel of Fortune?“ Series😊😊😊

[@SmaugUKA]

Hahaha. I love how this became a thing. I'm keeping it going to the very end. Don't you worry.

[@Alena_Sneaky]

SmaugUKA nonono I‘ll keep the train going as well 😈😈😈😈😈

[@SmaugUKA]

@@Alena_Sneaky By all means, go ahead. Like I said, I'm enjoying how it became a thing and I'm no longer the only one doing it.

[@Ch4p4ch4]

Can you please try to talk about all the cards? Last video was terrible (you skipped 3 or so if I recall correctly), and although this one has improved, you’ve still missed Probe. I am loving this series so far, it’s really interesting and the discussion is very funny, but it’s a bit sad to watch a top 100 cards in the whole history of the game and have a ~10% of the choices ignored. Thank you and keep up the great, fun work you’re doing!

[@kinginthenorth1437]

They didn't miss Probe. They paid 2 life to shave a card from the discussion.

[@mashiscanlan908]

Unfortunately, the whole series has already been recorded so it's too late to make changes based on feedback. That being said as we get closer to the top we make more of an effort to bring up every card. Thanks for watching!

[@allstarjason]

The story about Yawgmoth's Bargain was that Maro wanted to make a "fixed" necropotence...and that was the result

[@alexhayden507]

😂😂😂

[@almogdov]

And Tinker is the fixed Transmute Artifact... MaRo had a weird week

[@imyselfish]

The best removal for Jitte back in the day was in fact another Jitte.

[@zackestin1368]

What are you going to equip your jitte to when you opponent has a jitte out, whichever person gets their out first just won

[@joshuabaker6452]

No, back then playing a jitte when your opponent had one destroyed both due to the old version of the legend rule. Since then they have changed the rule twice. The first time to allow both players to have their own copy of a legend and the second to allow you to have two versions of the same planeswalker.

[@mashiscanlan908]

Hearth Kami FTW!

[@stormcrow1685]

imyselfish it was more like Oxidize

[@imyselfish]

@@stormcrow1685 If you were playing G. And I was thinking more of Extended, where nearly every deck with creatures played it. Also I recall more Krosan Grips than Oxidizes.

[@kaptenkrok8123]

Sooo much tease. I wanna see all the list now!! And mashi is a great host I wanna see him do some comentating :D

[@mashiscanlan908]

Thanks!

[@martinnordlund5237]

Missed discussing Gitaxian Probe... We'll still better than last time

[@Infernoblade1010]

Good enough to be banned in modern

[@klob4524]

John Kravich and legacy, restricted in vintage.

[@Omnivxrse]

yeah... that card is broken as heck...

[@WoRMaSTeR64]

Getting close to Lightning Bolt range (pun intended).

[@trickkelly]

The audio in this series is terrible. It’s like each person has different quality microphones and they’re located on different parts of their body.

[@ArmorOfGod7]

Pretty sure Reid's mic is in his left sock.

[@peewee130946]

Patrick Kelly idk how these magic channels don’t care about quality

[@tyler3050]

about time we got reid, quality on audio though :/

[@Alena_Sneaky]

I‘m glad that I met Mr. Seck at GP Prague

[@Kerimo007]

Dunno what your guys' overall plan for this series is, but it could be cool if, after going through the top 100, you picked out the top (or your favorite) sets/blocks, e.g. Ravnica, Dominaria, etc. Cheers for the series though! Kinda getting back into Magic after some years and am loving getting the different perspectives on the game.

[@stevedando1736]

I just got back into magic for the after almost 20 yrs away. I'm still just stunned LED is now an amazing card. I used to give those away for free. Wow times have changed.

[@SmaugUKA]

And on this episode of, "Are These Cards Better Than Wheel of Fortune"...Wheel's still better than most of these.

[@treasureberry7154]

I disagree, I think it's better than most of last episode, buy only better than fastbond and maybe probe here.

[@jokul_]

If you ignore the fact that blue is just more powerful than red, wheel is better than timetwister. Shuffling your graveyard into your library is a huge downside in contemporary magic and the fact that wheel works so much better with cards like bargain, reanimation, etc. that it is just better than twister unless you take color into account. Wheel would break any format it is legal in, can the same really be said of something like jitte or confidant?

[@thetruth4654]

Wheel is not better then Timetwister by any stretch, which is the reason that we have gotten multiple Wheel effect and as far as i know the only Timetwister effects in the game is Timetwister and Day`s Undoing. Timetwister allows you to combo of again can make you get right back into games. Wheel is great but Timetwister is way better, Timetwister can serve multiple purposes for a given deck a wheel effect is pretty much always the same. And the fact that it shuffles the graveyard back in can in cases allow Timetwister to kind of function like a pseudo graveyard hate spell. Does wheel do it no.

[@jokul_]

In contemporary magic, comboing further is far easier to enable from the graveyard. There are simply way more powerful cards that care about the graveyard than those which let you durdle around like in 93 magic. Twister is no longer better than wheel. If wheel resolves and you draw a yawgwill, you win, can't say the same about twister. Why hate on the graveyard when you can win that turn?

[@thetruth4654]

Timetwister is still better then Wheel. You do realise that Timetwister also allows you to win the turn you cast it right? So your argument is clearly very flawed. Wheel is a busted card but there are more strange cases that make Timetwister the better overall card

[@Rorschachqp]

Jitte, since it was Legendary, was also used as Jitte removal since you playing yours blew up your opponent's copy.

[@acetn330]

I'd predict they have Lotus at 1, though Recall is likely the more powerful card in a vacuum (and the vast majority of existing and potential formats). I also think the ABU duals should not be top 10, because since the printing of the shocks they aren't actually vital to any existing format any more. Sure they're strictly better, but if they didn't exist even Vintage and Legacy would just play shocks and the formats wouldn't change drastically. However, if the fetches weren't a thing every format in which they're legal would not exist in the same way any more. That's why fetches should be top 5 and duals shouldn't. It's fetches that carry 90% of the mana bases nowadays, duals only carry the price tag.

[@treasureberry7154]

I don't think fetches should be top 5. I think top 10, Sol Ring plus the rest of the power nine probably are better, maybe Mana crypt also

[@milkman82]

That's just not true about the duals. The two things that define legacy above modern are a) Force of Will and b) the mana. There just is no cost to having perfect mana in legacy (not counting non-basic land hate cards in legacy like Wasteland--which would be an issue regardless of the non-basic lands we're talking about). Fetches might be more powerful than the original duals--that's debatable--but the original duals are massively, massively better than shock lands. If original duals aren't in the top 10, they will be in the top 20.

[@milkman82]

Most likely the moxen will be paired together. So they will only take up one slot in the top 10, not 5. My guess is some order of Lotus, Ancestral Recall, moxes, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, fetches, duals, Academy, Workshop, Yawg Will

[@milkman82]

If they're counting ante cards (and I don't remember if they are) than certainly it will be Contract from Below as the only one mana draw 7 ever printed. Like I said, though--I don't know that ante cards are going to be considered.

[@tombullard6167]

@@milkman82 no Sensei's Divining Top?

[@vitorpinheiro7353]

When are you making this again?!?!?! I wanna see it again with the New power creeped cards!

[@davidnejjar3947]

I basically quit magic when the Urza block was finished. Played a little bit of Arena and went on a walk on the internet and found this series. I can't believe Lion´s eye diamond is now most valuable card from Mirage! Grinning Totem or Hammer of Bogardan anyone?

[@radicard5193]

Reid Duke be cosplaying as Masahiro Sakurai in all of these videos

[@dr6ke]

gerry t rocking a la dispute shirt? wild

[@Rorschachqp]

If the list is correct, the top two cards will be the ones banned for power. Cards that are restricted for power like Lotus, ARecall, etc. are not as powerful as those banned for power (banned in all formats). The exception being Channel, which is very random. I'm talking about Balance and Mind Twist, for example.

[@uriviper]

There are no cards in vintage that are banned for power reason, bans in vintage apart from the ante, shaharazad and chaos orb/falling star haven't been a thing for 20 years or more. And mind twist was already on the list.

[@Rorschachqp]

uriviper In the history of MTG, those two cards were both banned for a long time and, along with Channel, were the primary reason Force Of Will was printed.

[@EwokPanda]

When I go to a different tab, I think Bob Odenkirk is talking about Magic...

[@Rorschachqp]

Worldly Tutor predates Survival by quite a few years.

[@bee6377]

Wearing a La Dispute t shirt. How is Gerry Thompson this cool!?

[@SmaugUKA]

This section of cards was very Storm heavy.

[@willieo6027]

why would you not spent a least a minute or 2 on every card? come on.

[@Fantapew]

I fucking love Reid Duke

[@shwift8789]

Fast bond is probably the best green card ever printed maybe behind channel. Should be higher.

[@UpsidedownHandshake]

Hmmm...I predict Brian Weissman in the next ten :p

[@guim3419]

If cruel ultimatum is not in the list i Will be very sad

[@tiobarba]

where is natural order or sword of fire and ice? i think those ones on the video are realy bether them order or sword but , they deserve to be on top 100

[@timothybensema8901]

Gerry is great

[@bobsuarez4364]

So dark confidant is better card advantage than yawgmoth's bargain because...

[@zackestin1368]

2 mana versus 6, dark confidant is definitely stronger in more decks.

[@lardomcchickenwing6557]

Legal in more decks, you mean. There's angle anyone can spin to say it's a more powerful card, but being on the list of banned cards for a format does a good job of lowering that cards impact in that format.

[@Infernoblade1010]

Power 8 just doesn't have that same ring to it

[@arsteel2388]

I think Mind's Desire is far too low

[@jerred9655]

So much better having Reid and Jerry over kibleir and Martell. They dont just talk about the pro tour

[@bolt3_095]

Finally Reid!

[@DmitryAbrakhmanov]

We all know which card is №1. Its Siege Rhino.

[@akistrat]

Is it a thing for you to make lists and not talk about all of the items on them? I mean, I guess its the typical quality of your average content but still, just spend maybe 10 more minutes to produce these videos which are supposed to be unique?

[@thetruth4654]

Timetwister at 51 what is wrong with the people that work at Channelfireball? Oh and Survival is safe to unban in legacy the card is way too clunky by todays legacy standards and there was little graveyard hate and pithing needle effects being used back when Survival was good, but there is alot more of those effects in Legacy right now due to the rise of B\R Reanimator. In Vintage Survival is just a bad Dredge deck without Bahzaar of Bagdad that Survival deck is unplayable. On the LED comment no it does not enable alot of different combos it enabels Storm and some more Storm thats it atleast so far. Okey if you think Timetwister is not worthy of it`s spot in the power 9 then it`s very clear that you have not played with the card enough or that you really quit simply don`t understand why the card is powerful. 1.It allows you to combo of again 2.It essentially gives you another copy of each spell that is in your deck 3.It`s blue which does matter alot yes it can be pitched to forces, misdirection and so on. Timetwister is the most disrespected power card sure other cards has a case to be better but the reason cards like Time Vault, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt and Mana Vault is not better is because of Timetwister`s celling as a card Timetwister can serve so many purposes but on a totally different level then Wheel effects. While Time Vault, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt and Mana Vault all are busted card they are all kind of narrow in the sense they only give you the same thing in all the decks they can go in. Timetwister is the swiss army knife of the Power 9. Soo good job Channelfireball this list lost the little credability it had with Wheel of fortune at 91 and Timetwister at 51 like WTF!

[@mashiscanlan908]

So, so much wrong with us. That would be a whole other video series!

[@thetruth4654]

You should probably start working on that, since this list is very clearly not very accurate(:

[@אמנוןטל]

Timetwister should be #9.

[@su0tin731]

Fix the damn audio, listening to Reid Duke like he's talking from the toilet is damn annoying.

[@gerd1022]

first? probably lotus.

[@bolt3_095]

Gordon Stewart probably not, lotus is probably more like 3

[@gerd1022]

hmm i think lotus has to be one, leads to the most busted starts, also most iconic card in magic, but we will see. My top ten predictions: 1: Lotus 2: Recall 3. Moxen 4: Dual Lands 5: Fetch Lands 6: JTMS 7: Sol Ring 8: Force of Will 9: Workshop 10: Brainstorm Anyone else want to take a stab?

[@bolt3_095]

Gordon Stewart I don’t know if they’ll count contract from below, but that card is much better than any other card that’s legal in vintage

[@TheDray008]

@@gerd1022 it's hard to have lands so high they are crazy important but aren't like power cards imo. I think maybe mess with the order a bit take out the lands and put in snapcaster mage and time walk.

[@bolt3_095]

Gordon Stewart 1. Contract 2. Recall 3. Lotus 4. Duals 5. Fetches 6. Fov 7. Crypt 8. Library 9. Workshop 10. Bazaar of Baghdad (Added two of the lands)

[@rasmussgaard2596]

Terrible sound! Can't watch this :(