The Tower - 200T LTC Update & Stats | - Ep. 1

[@zachhumphries1340]

I started in July, but my Econ is far behind you, 1.5T LTC. I just got into champion for the first time, torn between spending stones on CL to be able to stay in champion, or synchronize my DW with GT/BH. Excited to follow your progress!

[@JPlays1]

Yeah it's quite a big balancing act. But, what are your UW cooldowns right now? And do you have a decent Multiverse Nexus you could use? Those questions will likely help identify if you should go DW first or not.

[@zachhumphries1340]

⁠@@JPlays1My GT/BH is at 180, and DW is at 280. I don’t have MVN, it’s one of the only uniques I haven’t pulled yet. Currently I run Dim core. Also have GComp which is nice.

[@JPlays1]

@ noted, thanks. And how developed is your CL at the moment? Sorry, I should have asked that earlier.

[@zachhumphries1340]

@@JPlays1 my CL is at 113/3/9.5%, plus the epic dim core

[@JPlays1]

@@zachhumphries1340 uhh, that’s a tough one. Considering all that, and that tournaments give better stones now: unless there are some specific econ upgrades you feel like you really need with coin asap - it may make sense to do some CL first to stabilise in Champ tournament and then gradually use the stones you earn to also get the DW cooldown (and if you are planning to use MVN for a long while to consider dropping BH too). And, if you have SL, to get that angle to about 40 without substat and three beams which will help for both econ and tournaments.

[@AllClouded]

great video and thanks for the content. zthe other people are so far ahead its hard to see what direction to take because they have years of progression. seing how you have built your tower is great insight. Please keep posting

[@JPlays1]

Aww cheers, will do! And let me know if there is anything you'd like me to cover or if you have any questions! How far along are you?

[@AllClouded]

@JPlays1 my tower started 3 months ago. I still don't have black hole but I farm t3 7.5k waves. Earn around 6B a day. So very early game but slowly ticking away

[@JPlays1]

@@AllClouded that's awesome! And keep in mind that comparison is the thief of joy - so go at your own pace. Main person to improve from every day is yourself :) And yeah, black hole makes a huge difference. It's a bit unfortunate how rng early in the game affects so much. Hope you'll get it soon!

[@AllClouded]

@JPlays1 I'm 2 stones shy from 5th UW so I hope I get it if not I know the stone price jump dramatically for the 6th uw lol

[@JPlays1]

@@AllClouded ohh my. Fingers crossed!!!

[@JPlays1]

Chapters for your convenience (unable to add these to the timeline due to not enough subscribers to have that feature). So sharing here instead: 0:00 Workshop 1:44 Enhancements 2:44 Ultimate Weapons 4:20 Modules 7:25 Cards 8:47 Perks 12:41 Tournaments 14:04 Milestones 15:17 Labs 25:18 Bots 26:11 Relics 26:52 Outro

[@Swiss_sw]

My progress looks somewhat similar, except I haven’t prioritized SPB much in favor of more damage labs. Also your golden bot is crazy developed, are you skipping themes and relics? I probably had a few relics I should have skipped early on, but I never pass on themes. Are you able to get your death wave up much for tourneys? I have 46x death wave damage and I struggle to get much health and have 200 sec cd.

[@JPlays1]

Hey, sorry for late reply as I was on vacation. I have skipped some relics, primarily the Absolute Defense ones. I shared some strategies on maxing DW health in tournaments a while ago in a tournament video I recorded - but yeah, I have more or less always maxed my DWH - except now that I am in Legends though. But so I continue to use strategies to get DWH up quicker in tournaments, such as 1) hoarding 2) turning off CL and SL at the beginning of tournament so that DW hits more enemies, etc.

[@eneskosar4649]

Hey, great video but i am new to game, I did the same thing in your video but while i was reaching to 3500 in my setup, your setup i am dying in like 300 wave for Tier 10. What is the reason what should i invest, can you make a video how to farm. What are the important things esc.

[@JPlays1]

Hi! Thanks for commenting and reaching out! So, just to clarify, you are saying that you are reaching wave 3,500 on t10 and with my approach, you only got to wave 300? If so, then that means that there are some issues with your orb devo approach - probably largely related to wall/thorns and more. And do you have two black holes? What is your LTC? (life time coins). That will give me a better idea of where you're at. Also, what tier do you normally farm and how much do you earn per run. And do you normally run "blender", meaning, do you normally just max free upgrades etc. and let the run go?

[@JPlays1]

And good point about making a video that more clearly illustrates how I farm and the key things to be aware of. I will make that in the future. Good suggestion.

[@eneskosar4649]

@@JPlays1 yeah, i just do blender, life time coin 385B, what are the missing pieces cap :D

[@Sirisaaclime.13]

@@eneskosar4649 I would love to know as well. I am roughly 1T LTC but I am still on blender build. I am usually doing around 75B coins per run and would love to know how to make the jump from blender to wall so I can do this kind of farming run versus just maxing all upgrades and doing blender.

[@JPlays1]

@@Sirisaaclime.13 @eneskosar4609 Duly noted. You both should be at the stage where orb devo can vastly outperform blender. And just to be clear Siris, you can do orb devo without a wall. I did that for a long time until I started peaking at t9-t10 and needed wall for further progress - particularly as I didn't have any Worm Hole Regenerator. Anywyas, duly noted, and I will aim to make a clearer specific guide on orb devo.

[@JPlays1]

Let me know if you have any comments or questions related to the video and my stats :)

[@1993Reynoldsskan]

I don't think you're ready for t12 relic or unlocking t16 yet. For context I'm an orbless devo and I finally unlocked t16 a few weeks ago and I also tried for t12 relic a few days ago and died on wave 3600 give or take a few waves

[@JPlays1]

@@1993Reynoldsskan thanks, really appreciate it! For clarity though, when going for the relic, I assume you didn't take CTO, yeah? And what's your LTC?

[@1993Reynoldsskan]

Yes I did avoid the cto perk. My ltc is 1.53q. I have bh at 50 sec cd. Gt and dw at 100 sec cd. I also have sm at 20 second cd with on OK about in damage(currently working on adding more damage). And most of the important labs for uw are done. Only uw I'm missing is cf

[@JPlays1]

@@1993Reynoldsskan Ohh wow, understood. That's quite far ahead of me. Nice though! Good job!

[@JPlays1]

@@1993Reynoldsskan Also curious if you take of Enemy Balance card in milestone runs? Haven't really tried that myself to date.

[@jamesr1360]

Good day. I am really new to the game, i was lucky to unlock bh,gt and dw as first 3 uw. Currently at 7b ltc. Can i start orb devo at this stage? Or do i keep farming coins using blender until i get higher ltc? Farming at tier 7 wave 1k= 100M per run. 😅 I also have MVN module paired with galaxy compressor atm

[@JPlays1]

Hey, I'm going to make a video soon that is fully dedicated to all the requirements to running orb devo effectively, so stay tuned for that. Also, at 7b LTC it may be slightly early, but can work - and it is especially easier if you have WHR module. I didn't at that stage which makes survivability as orb devo a bit tricky that early in the game. And things become a lot easier once you can quite easily max various workshops in a run without free upgrades. But to give you some quick answers though, you'll want to ensure that you have these thing set: - BH & GT synced (and ideally also DW. And even better with coin bot also synced, but that usually will take quite some time to reach) - Extra orb card (and ideally extra orb adjuster). Probably one lab level for extra extra orbs, though you could try without first. - Ideally BH2. I'd probably wait with orb devo until you have this (if my memory serves me right, it costs about 14B). And you'd want enough BH damage and duration so that you can kill protectors in two pulls. E.g., 25 second BH duration with 2% damage. +++ Hope this helps, but more info to come soon in a dedicated video.

[@jamesr1360]

@JPlays1 @JPlays1 I do have WHR module but not quite sure how it works, extra orb +1 and adjuster unlocked. Working on getting the 2nd BH and BH damage. Bh,gt,dw syncd using the module. Thank you for the tips ! I will stay tuned for your next upload. !

[@mizzy7000]

Hi, why is your BH cd at 50s but GT is only at 2 mins?

[@mizzy7000]

oh nvm i realize it's due to your usage of multiverse nexus :D

[@JPlays1]

@@mizzy7000 hehe yeah. Got a 101s MVN sync. For a long time they were 1:1 sync, then 1:2 sync, and then once I got a decent MVN I pushed BH all the way down.

[@lionking2532]

I feel like I’m doing something wrong. I started in July this year and are only at 800k lifetime coins. How are you progressing so fast?

[@JPlays1]

Hmm, likely a bunch of reasons, here are some: 1. I'm always hyperfocused in games on min-maxing and efficient ways to progress etc. (and spend an unhealthy amount of time dwelling on such considerations!) 2. I got the ad packs, and milestone packs. 3. I've run orb devo hoarding strategy ever since it was feasible to do so for me for increased coin gains. 4. I got Golden Tower and Black Hole ultimate weapons early on. 5. For a long time (basically until my workshop levels reached 5000+/6000), I focused more or less purely on econ labs. 6. I run the game 24/7 via emulator on computer. 7. And probably a bunch of other factors too. Feel free to ask if anything.

[@lionking2532]

@ alright now I see the big differences. I’m already 4 ultimate weapons in and still miss the black hole for my golden tower. Then I’m free to play so no coin bonuses for me 🥲 and I don’t manage to run the game the whole day. But at what point would you say devo is manageable / worth it?

[@JPlays1]

@@lionking2532 Yeah, so the main one you ought to compare yourself with (and this is true for all) is your yesterday's self :) That's who your main competitor ought to be :) Orb devo I would prob say 50B onwards nowadays - but always exceptions ofc.

[@lionking2532]

@@JPlays1 Thanks, that’s a good perspective 👌 Alright so still a good way to go

[@kal.]

how long have u been playing this?

[@JPlays1]

@@kal. 5 months, what about yourself?

[@xgx5006]

Bro I started at the same time as you but your LTC is 200x mine. Is death wave really that OP?! Sucks it hasn’t even shown yet, it’s not even on my 5th option (SM,PS,ILM) :/ this video helps put me on the right track but I feel like there is still something I’m missing

[@JPlays1]

Hi man. Death Wave really is amazing. Early on in my journey it was amazing primarily because of health - which made it possible to go a lot further in each run and which ultimately made it a quite quick journey to get to tier 9 (and now 10) for farming. Nowadays though, Deathwave is also amazing for coin and cells. Hope you get it soon, though it sucks that it is not as 5th. Beyond that, there may be some other factors too. For example, are you also farming using the Orb Devo hoarding strategy? That nets a lot more coins than doing regular blender. I am currently working on a detailed guide for Orb Devo that I hope to publish soon. That will detail a lot more about how I'm going about maximising coins. There are probably other factors too - such as that I got BH and GT early in my journey etc., that has snowballed my growth. And now that I earn a decent amount of stones in tournaments it also helps to continue to upgrade UWs.

[@xgx5006]

@ thanks bro. Looking forward to that video. I just finished 3rd in the last tournament so I’m going up to champs now. Probably just got really lucky with my bracket. My gt and bh are synced at 2:20. Should I save up for the new two UW buys try hopefully get DW on #6?

[@JPlays1]

@@xgx5006 Hmm, manyyyyyy factors and variables to consider in regards to that kind of decision. First of all, do you have a CL? If you do, then if I were you, I would probably focus CL for a while - as that will help you earn more stones in tournaments - which therein will make it easier/faster thereafter to get DW etc. Hmm. That's my initial hunch at least - though maybe the lack of health will make it difficult to climb high in champ. Hmm.

[@xgx5006]

@ I do have CL. I will follow your lead and dump some stones into that then see how it helps me hopefully stay in champs.

[@JPlays1]

@@xgx5006 what level are your workshop health, damage and regen btw?