The TOXIC Side of Monster Hunter...

[@Flubbadon]

i had nothing but positive things to say about the mh community until this HunDev guy punched me in the face and took all the funds that i was about to donate to solve world hunger. that guy was a bit of an oddball. nah but for real the powerscaling debates get wild

[@thegoldenaegis]

The most toxic part of monster hunter is probably the speed running community. It's mostly chill but since it's the only real competitive part of the game it attracts THOSE kinds of people. There have been so many cheating scandals. (Still not as bad as people using mods to see DPS and yelling at people who have lower DPS than themselves)

[@asianartist1]

mr 999 has shits like this, but, then there's 999s that will run 4 monster quests with you from start to finish as well :)

[@HunDev_PL]

Speedrunning communities (or competitive gaming communities for that matter) in general are all quite toxic. Wherever there's any competition factor involved, toxic bs is boutta go down in one way or another

[@A_lil_Problematic]

I'd rather finish a hunt in 10 minutes or less rather than a boring 20-30 min slow hunt just because ur gear and dps is doo doo 🤷‍♂️

[@daviddinges9168]

​@A_lil_Problematic but counter point. The more people you help optimize their builds then ultimately the less there will be to be a bad match up.

[@danielaji1769]

The charm play monster hunter is you can hunt alone... people can be what ever you want. Mh sunbreak you can play with my waifu fiorayne and luchika

[@ruairidhcampbell8398]

I somehow haven't run into any toxic people in world despite me still wearing a legiana mail from ages ago

[@larafellermann761]

I do love monster hunter with all, and I’m very happy to see so many people have joined the community but I fear i have witnessed the toxic side, watched a stream on twitch of someone playing through world and I was very happy seeing that they enjoyed it, sadly they were hate raided by another streamer who played world and got bullied so much that they genuinely stopped streaming monster hunter, which hurts seeing that, validly that was the only time seeing such toxic behavior in this community..thankfully

[@jamesdiaz5975]

I recall MH community being pretty toxic all the way back since ps2 days take it from me who experienced that toxic aspect for quite a long time, I got ridiculed and made fun of because I didn’t play it right like they do or do things by their standards , I only manage to find pretty chill community group years later probably around when 4th gen came out and I was playing mostly God Eater and Gods Eater Burst along with PSU, but yeah even now where you can find pretty chill groups there are pretty toxic ones still around that sadly make up the percentage also

[@dragonmangames2523]

Phantasy Star Universe and Monster Hunter in the same belt? You sound awfully familiar to me.

[@jamesdiaz5975]

@@dragonmangames2523 The funny part is MH reminds me of PSO Ep1 and Ep2 back from the Sega Dreamcast days😅, maybe that’s why I had a slight interest in it at first before getting fully on board with it much years later

[@DarthSobekus99]

My first game was Freedom Unite, did not do my first group hunt until AFTER I beat Neegigante. Tbh, I always prided this community as united and understanding (with a couple bad Parashrooms in the batch) and until I came across this video, I had never met a toxic Hunter! Until Fatalis wakes up or the guild knights go on a crusade, I shall stick to trudging the swamp for a Gravios I’ve been at war with for 3 weeks😌

[@daviddinges9168]

Imo the random grudge matches against specific monsters is the true endgame for monster hunter. Personally I hunt zinogre religiously because he is my favorite monster. My buddy on the other hand kills tzitzi religiously because he has been flash bombed one to many times and hates them with a passion XD

[@cantaro5958]

Ill say it right now. For me, Sunbreak > Iceborne. But, 4U >> both. Both are goeated, but i prefer sunbreak for its combat. Which is the main thing about monster hunter. But There’s just something about 4U i love and I cant picture what, be it nostalgia, be it the story or monsters, everything is a huge W no wonder most my favorite monsters are from this game. 2:28 sorryy it was me, dodogama never loses 💥

[@silaswells6706]

Lol it's always good to see people who can appreciate new and old games. I was introduced to the series with world and some people just get so angry when I mention it.

[@daviddinges9168]

​@@silaswells6706people got angry for you joining in world? That's just odd lol.

[@daviddinges9168]

I wish they'd bring back the investigations from 4u with the randomized weapon pools. Those always had me excited seeing what sort of new crazy bs I was gonna pull out of there to make a build around. My best I ever got was a water bow which sadly wasn't my main weapons but it still hit hard lol

[@mhzaneimpact1419]

I love all monster hunter despite all complaints and pain I had with them, especially helping anyone with their wall, because ive experienced my own walls and never had help, I just solo'd until double cross finally I was able to help people clearing their EX deviants, even nowadays Im just finding open lobbies on twitch and help anyone there if the streamer is doing other things

[@petercottantail7850]

no community can be pure, once it gets to a certain size the socially inept out number the mentally stable 10:1 and always leads to taking sides over random things. from complaining about unnecessary things to gate keeping people who have genuine issues with the game, it's exhausting that everything is black and white and there's just not enough people available to call out a superficial argument for what it is cause if the whole taking sides blurs the lines so much

[@johnsober]

Ehhh, it's probably (or I prefer to think it is) just the vocal minority thing. The larger a community, the bigger (in absolute terms) that vocal minority is. If you have 100 people in a community and 1 person (1%) goes off on an unhinged rant ever so often, that's 1 unhinged rant you're gonna have the misfortune of experiencing sometimes. But if it's 10,000 people and 5 people (0.05%) go off on unhinged rants ever so often, that's a lot more you're gonna have to hear, even though statistically, the community has improved. And even if you're aware it's a vocal minority, our natural tendency for negative bias is gonna kick in.

[@goofyahhvalstraxproductions]

John Powerscaling was mentioned

[@Flubbadon]

john fanon was not mentioned, am sad but also happy

[@goofyahhvalstraxproductions]

@@Flubbadon aren't you jane fanon

[@Flubbadon]

@@goofyahhvalstraxproductions yes but john is a funnier name

[@blankblank6214]

The only toxic part of the fan base are the poison monsters

[@Xenos25]

Still, for me MH community is one of the best, they are of course some exceptions like always but it's just because a perfect community is impossible.

[@daviddinges9168]

Yeah when I find a lobby that's being toxic I just leave and I generally don't have a problem with it again for a while. Though most lobby are usually neutral from what I find. I'm assuming because mics are an issue for some and the typing on Playstation is honestly a pain lol

[@locomotivo4644]

Every fandom gets toxic the bigger they get, it's an inevitable thing that unfortunately happens no matter how "chill" the fandom may look at a glance. In my experience as a fanartist, every single outrage that I've been in sparked because some people just couldn't accept that their favorite media content has, or can have, glaring flaws. Every single time I've interacted with them, they took it as personal insult whenever I voiced my criticism and tried their hardest to strawman my argument at every given opportunity. Eventually I grew tired of constantly having to deal with those kinds of people in my dms and left every fandom for good. To me MH fandom is no different from say Sonic fandom or MHA fandom (some of the most notorious fandoms I've been in). I believe the notion of MH fandom being relatively "chill" simply comes because the fandom collectively agrees that every entry of the series had a certain charm to it, no matter how bad their mechanics may have been - so they all share a common ground to some extent

[@goofyahhvalstraxproductions]

MH community is toxic yes but not to the point where they threaten the creators like MHA

[@locomotivo4644]

@@goofyahhvalstraxproductions There are _a lot_ more than plenty of people in the fandom that regularly curse and go as far as threaten the devs, you just haven't seen what lies below the tip of the iceberg. For example during Dos era there used to be a viral quote among japanese fandom, "TNKSN", which was straight up a short for "Die, Tanaka". (For context, Tanaka was responsible for things such as "desire sensors" and palette swaps for subspecies, which majority of fandom found extremely lazy and lacking in quality) Heck, even in Iceborne there was a viral quote that basically _prayed_ for Ichihara to step down

[@goofyahhvalstraxproductions]

​@@locomotivo4644 uh, I was not aware of that, that's not good. Thanks for informing me I guess

[@mhbloodsurge]

I remember being kicked out of fatty lobbies bc I was with my own group and we where minding our own business, and if someone else joined we where polite about it and would ask them to leave and tell them we are full

[@leonidasvonsparta]

Make private groups 😅

[@farispramudia9653]

damn.. Barrel Bombs are very OP in the 4u intro

[@HunDev_PL]

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[@hugo-pg5tv]

The most toxic thing in the MH community is the gen war and superior complex of gens. Old gen players love to shit on new players and act superior and new gen players like to ask for the game to get easier.

[@daviddinges9168]

I will admit I don't want it to keep getting easier. But other than that I love helping out new players, whenever I'm playing, if I'm not playing with a friend or my wife I'm almost always just doing sos hunts to help out lol. I don't understand the shifting on new players things that's started, new players means bigger monster hunter which equals good, so why would I wanna drive off newer players instead of helping them?

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@@daviddinges9168 ask the toxic veterans lmao. Or if we can even call GU players veterans when they call world players newbies, when it has been over 6 years ago since it came out.

[@daviddinges9168]

@hugo-pg5tv no world players aren't newbies at this point imo. They already saw the rise of a second game and second master rank launch of the game, world starters are vets now too. Especially considering world was a mainline title too, not just a spin off lol.

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@@daviddinges9168 like it has soon been 7 years since world dropped. GU in not that much older than world either but 4th gen players like to call world players casuals and new to monster hunter. The only players that shoudl have that opinion is those that started with the first ever game. Hopefully they make Wilds harder than ever to show "veterans" that new games doesn't always become easy. World for a new player could 100% be hard but since those that had already played a monster hunter game already learnt the mechanics it will 100% be easier thqn ur first title. Most players don't understand that if u already know the basics of a game it will not be as hard as when u first started.

[@daviddinges9168]

@hugo-pg5tv tbh from what I've seen the difficulty argument usually comes in with world, rise, and sunbreak. But not iceborne which I find hilarious. Yes rise and sunbreak were much easier and I hope it doesn't continue down that route personally. But for world, we'll that was only up to high rank. Of course that'll be easy, the old saying I'd hear a lot is that monster hunter doesn't even start till g rank and world is proof of it. The first part is always the appetizer to hold us over. Almost like a preview and yes easier because of it. Iceborne was the true launch though and that's where difficulty became a non issue again especially with the release of the new monsters (fatalis especially). And you're right, more experience generally means an easier time as well which is also I factor, I just try to look at it objectively though. Like for rise and sunbreak, the moment you learned the new movement difficulty became a non factor in that game lol, the monsters just couldn't keep 7p XD

[@BookkeeperGaming]

I love the community overall and probably why it is one of my favorite series. Personally, the speed running community is the most toxic and even more after some of the high profile scandals. It would take a whole video to explain the toxicity of the speed running community in MH.

[@Floridamangaming729]

there was this one time i went into a sos quest cuz i was bored. and the guy did nothing but sit in camp and wait for me to kill the monster. i didnt notice until the monster was half way dead. i went back to camp and emoted on him till the timer went out. and no i didn't sit there i just watched youtube on my phone lol. never had any experience with a toxic mh player so this is the first. also ive been playing since 3 and no not ultimate. and i dont really get why hunters have a problem with innovation thats one of the best parts of the franchise they are always improving and adding new stuff.

[@Roobere207]

I like rise more than world. (I just basically killed myself by saying that) We all know what asmongold's chat is gonna say about this

[@HunDev_PL]

You can have an opinion, but the moment you start typing beyond the initial point, you start to exponentially increase the odds of causing war

[@DarthSobekus99]

Old World > New World, but that’s just me!!

[@okamiryun6963]

You want controversial. I love monster hunter 3. I loved hunting in the water. Not being sarcastic or snarky I honestly loved it. It felt 3d there but on land it was like a 2d fight.

[@DarthSobekus99]

@@okamiryun6963 As a hunter with thalassophobia, I will stay on land🙂 but, I heard it was a fun way to hunt!! I always wanted to visit Moga, too!

[@okamiryun6963]

@@DarthSobekus99 I have minor thalassophobia, I'm fine unless I can't see the bottom. Subnautica is both fun and horrifying. Anyway yea it was fun to actual 3d fight. Before world and rise did it.

[@shadowdeath958]

The Zelda community is experiencing the same thing sadly

[@Roobiedoobiedoo]

As much as I am happy world was successful and bought new people, it also bought kids who are so incredibly ignorant and arrogant to anything they haven’t experienced such as frontier stuff, I saw this crazy guy saying that nergigante would prey on disufroa, the second most powerful being in the franchise apart from zenith white fatalis and his only argument was that nergigante is called the eater of elders and as a result kills disufroa and how it killed a weakened shara ishvalda, a monster so weak it could not stop the hunters carving it while it was barely alive. This new audience seems to also over inflate monster abilities such as nergigante’s regeneration ect. It’s sad because I get bad vibes thinking about monsters I genuinely like because of this and when mentioning them to other people they also have the same negative energy about the monster.

[@leonidasvonsparta]

I play mostly singleplayer in mh, only for some event quests to have fun I play online. Just don't fight about such stuff with ppl. Let them have theyr opinions and you keep yours. Handle it like a grown up and don't let it influence your fun of the game.

[@Roobiedoobiedoo]

@@leonidasvonsparta oh I don’t anymore, it’s just lingering from when I used to involve myself within it. It’s generally a nice community so I continue to involve myself

[@nuggie4huggie23pp]

I stopped asking for help on quests online because wanna be pro people would agree to help, but then nag me about what gear I am and aren’t using, and tried to tell me what I should be using. Bro, I pick an armor that looks cool and I go. If the weapon is of the same elemental type, so tf what? It’s a hammer that I’m going to be smashing over the monsters head. It’s going to die regardless. Yes you can focus on stats to increase your chances and damage, but the nice thing about monster hunter is that you literally don’t have to. I’ve played 5 games in the series, didnt focus on stats for each one, and I finished the games just fine. As long as my defense increased, that’s all I cared about.

[@unlimited971]

I fall into some wow andys looking. I have been toxic too one or two time despite being a vet. My worst encounter was a cheater during fatalis run in mhw. I didn t use the loots at all until i could beat it fatalis which i did 2 days later. The 4th after the update

[@juracan8591]

My worst experience I've ever had in MH is being a Prowler main in Gen and GU (Prowler-only in this one) and being kicked from 1 in every 3 lobbies I would join. And that's despite me being a min-maxer that spends the whole night on the calculator comparing my builds! People obsessed over TA wiki weapon tier lists so much that they forgot that doesn't translate into casual multiplayer play at all. I went ahead and reached HR800+ will all my EX crowns and I still sometimes get kicked despite running nearly the same cookie-cutter META boomerang builds.

[@daviddinges9168]

I could never get a hang of the prowler builds personally, it always felt slow and clunky compared to the other weapons when I tried to play them.

[@leonidasvonsparta]

I still don't get why ppl just can't accept that everyone plays what he likes.

[@mhbloodsurge]

Gonna have to watch this when I get back to my hotel room 👀

[@Chip_Reaper]

It's still better the cod

[@zawarudo8991]

Channels talking about toxicity tend to be the most toxic.

[@HunDev_PL]

I wouldn't consider myself a toxic channel but oh what do I know. I guess u could check for yourself 🤞✨️

[@johnsober]

I think the ironic and unfortunate thing about the overbearing and overly prescriptive pro-meta folk is that that problem somehow bred an equally pretentious and obnoxious group of anti-meta folk. Anywho, one saving grace is that I've had no problem ignoring *both* of these groups for the most part.

[@yes78]

Some are also really hostile toward mods, even the non gameplay stuffs

[@Unkownentity705]

Hello you sound like team dark side no lie

[@neoharmoniagropius1426]

Playing Rise Single player is Good Choice to Evade the Community & Play random player in world is better to do than play at the Community/Fanbase

[@A_lil_Problematic]

You won't believe how toxic 4u lobbies were. Literally the cod of the mh world

[@daviddinges9168]

Most of my lobbies were chill and fun in 4u tbh. The only ones that weren't were usually the ones running those custom quest things which I wasn't comfortable with anyways so no loss on my part there lol.

[@A_lil_Problematic]

@@daviddinges9168 I've met cringe erpers, N#zis, furries, etc. Shid was wild. Dude, those custom quests were fun AF. Def the reason you saw many low ranks running around with g rank gear in hubs

[@TheT-Lex]

Why is kulve in the video!?💀

[@TBREALPRO]

I heard you voice first time

[@Bird_man180]

Monster hunter civil war

[@Mr.Boltling]

Watch mh become the new mha

[@yordinarvasta9406]

The truth is, your community is one of the quietest compared to others, there are always toxic people.

[@HunDev_PL]

Sadly

[@MH_MostWanted]

...hmmm.