The Track and Field Rivalry That Makes No Sense

[@RunnerBoi]

Welp

[@Ietsmetkrullen]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@luckyspurs]

Well done Hocker. Was happy to see Kerr and Nuguse outperform Jakob. Disappointed Kerr didn't win. But he was in great spirits afterwards, which cheered me up. Amazing time from the first 3, especially Hocker. Really not all that far off El Guerrouj's world record, all things considered.

[@ajbahus]

If Jakob has pacers and wavelights, he's unbeatable. Unfortunately you don't get either of those at the Olympics or World Championships. Which is why Jakob lost in Eugene in 22, Budapest in 23 and now Paris in 24.

[@Tstacks5]

Kerr got his 3rd win against Jakob tho lol😂

[@DB-hb1go]

😂

[@tylershelton2763]

Hocker in the thumbnail background just gave this a whole new meaning in retrospect lmao

[@tirullow6313]

Lmao this is amazing, hes always been in the background

[@TheGiantKillers]

Decades ago, the last great middle distance rivalry was Seb Coe and Steve Ovett and can remember they concentrated on each other to such a degree in the 1978 European 800m final that East Germany's Olaf Bayer beat them both. Not as bad as doing it in an Olympics but they learned the hard way and never took the rest of the field for granted again.

[@NicholasHeyming]

Hocker looming

[@elowe5937]

Hahahah I literally clicked on this vid to post that. HOCKMAN COMIN'

[@rahulraju1814]

Lol true'

[@beepedlol]

Hocker in the background of this thumbnail is perfection

[@scouthatesrainbows]

Pure cinema, the twist was right in front of us the whole time

[@hankjones7054]

The Olympics is quite something. Didnt even know about these 2 a week ago and now apparently i care enough to watch a 20 min analysis of their battles.

[@GG-ti5dd]

Same. This video kept popping up and i was like "not interested". Now here i am lol

[@emilys9524]

Same!

[@bussinblaney3951]

Same

[@luckyspurs]

The wild thing is for years Ingebrigtsen fans have banged on about his times and records. And now they've all massively closed the gap on him, with better kick finishes. PBs Ingebrigtsen 3.26.73 Hocker 3.27.65 Kerr 3.27.79 Nuguse 3.27.80 Jakob's been beaten by 4 different people in the last 3 major 1500m finals (twice by Kerr) and not won any.

[@myathegrandma]

Me too!

[@ninz5250]

I love how intense Josh and Jakob get, meanwhile Yared is over on the side talking about Pokémon and his pet turtle 😂

[@pugsnhogz]

Yared is my favorite American right now, how can you not love the dude

[@obey_monte785]

@@pugsnhogz hes just doesn't seem very competitive and never wins big races

[@pugsnhogz]

@@obey_monte785 is this a joke?

[@snorkelwackjr]

@@obey_monte785 "How can you like someone who doesn't win?" 😫

[@frbrable]

We'll definitely be cheering for Yared Nguse at the Olympics. Kerr and Ingebristsen are both prima donnas.

[@moliver8295]

The sudden irony of Cole Hocker being in the background of the thumbnail is so poetic

[@jdsmitty325]

Love how we have this Kerr v Jakob beef meanwhile Yared is just vibing

[@cheeseontop17]

“Some weirder storylines could emerge down the line” as Hocker onscreen

[@smilesthenarrator]

Anybody else here after Olympic Final? I’m glad I watched this video a day ahead😂😂

[@XJokermanX]

No I'm here before the Olympic final

[@XJokermanX]

What a stupid thing to say

[@bussinblaney3951]

​@@XJokermanX bro mad for no reason

[@smilesthenarrator]

@@XJokermanXdang bro you don’t have to talk to yourself like that.

[@andrewblackie7170]

​@@smilesthenarrator: 😂😂 Nice of you to tell the guy friend.👌

[@DotArve]

"Nordic Mountains" - Jakob lives in what is perhaps the flattest part of Norway.

[@nathans2157]

“Land of the Scots” Kerr lives in Seattle

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

I think that would be Østfold. The Stavanger/Sandnes area is pretty flat though, but the mountains are really nearby

[@RunnerBoi]

Touché. Was a throwaway line that I didn't put much thought into 😅

[@General1Cal]

Kinda like the ridiculous nick names, like Top Gun.

[@tarponmonkey39]

@@nathans2157 He lives in New Mexico most of the time

[@robertcurran4030]

I support rivalries and I support the media if they manufactured this one. The idea that Kerr got into world record shape out of spite is just too fun an idea to ignore.

[@eazybuxafew]

The Petty is strong with this one. I’m here for it

[@steveknick1978]

You could almost see a scenario where one guy was racing clean, got pissed off when he got showboated on, then went down a dark path to get even. It’s just conjecture though.

[@iamthemanwithnoname6140]

@@steveknick1978 That isn't conjecture. Conjecture is a theory with incomplete information. What you have is no information or evidence at all to support a lazy slander.

[@andrewblackie7170]

It wasn't the media that got this going as a rivalry, it was Angerbritson's disrespect & arrogance that the media jumped on.

[@justincalhoun]

“Cole Hocker wins Gold!!!!”

[@dodoontherocks]

Jackob getting another world record 😂

[@brandonthomas6280]

I love how they both lost to Hocker at the Olympics 😊

[@TyroneBiggums2003]

Nuguse was so close to passing Kerr. That would’ve been the cherry on top.

[@luckyspurs]

@@TyroneBiggums2003 Hey, respect to Kerr as well. Hocker, Kerr and Nuguse all run huge PBs in the Olympic final. Amazing race.

[@alexf7377]

Wightman and Kerr are so underappreciated here in their home country of Scotland. We should be so proud. Athletics is our most successful sport at present.

[@paulwilliams8389]

I agree. I certainly can't believe that they get practically no recognition for their achievements in the rest of Britain either. Maybe Athletics isn't seen as as big a sport in the UK as it was in the 80's when the likes of Coe, Ovett, Cram and Daley Thompson were around.

[@Vivungisport]

Must feel weird for you guys?🤔

[@HHh-ug4oe]

Only Olympic gold makes you mainstream

[@jayaychare7318]

Kerr being USA based might have have something to do with it

[@jacksonpavlovich6288]

@@jayaychare7318Mo Farah was based in the US and even Africa at one point too yet he had so much recognition throughout his career

[@nami-ic5nv]

overall conclusion from this video is yared nuguse is a vibe lol

[@SophiaSkips]

Interesting watching this after the Olympics. The rivalry ruined both their chances lol

[@luckyspurs]

Wouldn't say that. Kerr ran a huge PB and British record 3.27.79 for silver. Hocker, himself and Nuguse would have had to run the race the exact same way, because of how Jakob chose to run it, regardless of the rivalry. Hocker just had more.

[@SophiaSkips]

@@luckyspurs I more meant that Hocker said that he took advantage of the opportunity to come round the inside and I think that's what won him the gold where Kerr had to run wider. Kerr seemed happy though and a PB can never be taken as a loss

[@DistortedDan_]

The press conference edit was hysterical 😂

[@RiqMoran]

"Uk record? We can get that one. Its the other one thats difficult. The world one? Crazy how that works" 😂

[@Bweyg]

Is there some hidden joke behind this that I'm not aware of?

[@MAEVELOVE1]

​@Bweyg I would assume it's because the world record is most likely much harder than the national one. Unless your nation is the world record holder of course.

[@Bweyg]

@@MAEVELOVE1 So basically "I can get this record. It's the other record that's difficult to get." AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHABHAHAHHAHAHAHA Again I'm confused.

[@bobdrooples]

And he didn't get the UK one either did he?

[@fergusdenoon1255]

@@bobdrooples he is the current UK mile record holder.

[@anodyne57]

After hearing Kerr speak sensibly today about the Paris final, and seeing what a good time Cole and Yared were having, I've concluded that what Jakob is missing in his training is developing a sense of humor. Not that Kerr's is on display that much, but I sensed there's a guy in there that has some proportion on this absurd business of running races and what it means in the scheme of things. Jakob was kind of jinxed growing up in the household he found himself in, where according to him, "winning was the only thing that mattered." I wonder now whether with a young child and another disappointment at a championship final, he might develop some depth, so that he can learn to laugh at himself a little.

[@amblincork]

From this video it is clear it was Kerr who was stirring the pot whislt trying to project Jakob as the problem. Jakob can perform at both 1500 and 5000 ...when kerr can do the saem, he will be able to stop stirring the pot

[@1517the_year]

The thumbnail is so apt lmao🤣🤣

[@bilboswaggins7629]

And Hocker swooped in to beat BOTH of them .. INCREDIBLE!

[@amblincork]

And Jakob went on tot win 5000 Gold....where were both Kerr and Hocker then ?

[@luckyspurs]

@@amblincork They're 1500m runners.

[@torontoclarinetist]

I love how much work you put into these videos. Thank you 🙏

[@GeorgeFiladelfiotis]

That press conference was more awkward than Greek morning show panels

[@garymcghee2249]

I'm a Brit and very patriotic, but Kerr has a long way to go to match Ingebritsen's achievements, as does Crocker, and all his other rivals. The way Jakob easily won the 5000m was simply majestic. So perhaps Kerr should dial down on the cockiness until he's got more to be cocky about.

[@amblincork]

Generous comment from you. It is regrettable the way the media frequently try to hype up tension - the sport of running doesnt need this

[@timmasters1195]

Kerr is a 1500m runner. He beat JI at the 1500m. What more do you want him to do?

[@garymcghee2249]

@@timmasters1195 I already answered your question.

[@garymcghee2249]

@@amblincork Indeed.

[@matthewnewnham-runner-writer]

While Josh comes from Scotland (specifically, Edinburgh), he has lived in the States for years, starting with Albuquerque (when he ran for Univ of New Mexico). Nowadays, he divides his time mainly between Seattle and Albuquerque. (But he's still a proud member of our Edinburgh Athletics Club - as is Jake Wightman.)

[@medusa3592]

Thanks. That explains his accent. 👍

[@spritesensation]

Ive never seen a youtuber completely switch genres on a whole new account and do successfully before very impressive and great video

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

So far it's 8-2 (finals only) in Jakob's favor. I wish we could see both of them in the European Championships in Rome (1500m final is next week)

[@woodygz9746]

Kerr isn't racing europeans unfortunately. probs bc hes trying to peak for the olympics but jakob is racing 1500 and 5k

[@kd-wk8nd]

@@woodygz9746Kerr dodges Jakob left right and centre whilst Jakob runs everything

[@archiejames4739]

@@kd-wk8ndkerrs on a very different programme to Jakob as discussed in this video, has very little to do with dodging. Plus euros are very minor in comparison with viewer rates and bonuses far lower than the Olympics, so travelling back to Europe and missing what would probably 2 weeks of proper training would surely make no sense for kerr

[@kd-wk8nd]

⁠@@archiejames4739sure he will be eyeing the Olympics but he could do the euros .. and he certainly dodged Jakob at the end of last season in diamond league races. Jakob goes in for everything and is by a long way the more complete athlete. Kerr beat him once and makes an awful lot of noise but has done no more than Jake Wightman who is more classy. Anyway should be some good races!

[@archiejames4739]

@@kd-wk8nd Jakob is definitely the more ‘complete’ athlete, but not the most complete 1500 runner and that’s shown and I think will continue to purely from the type of training he does. In terms of dodging, ye Kerr didn’t race him but (all respect to Jakob for being able to do this) winning the worlds and then continuing to be in top race form after mentally must be incredibly difficult and in my opinion pointless. And the euros again is a rlly weird one, had 16,000 viewers on the bbc tonight, stadium looked well over half empty, sponsors who are sustaining this sport rlly wouldn’t want an athlete to travel from west America to Europe 2 months out from the most important event in 4 (3 cause of covid) years. Peaking is a hard thing to get right and adding travel plus the risk of illness seems silly

[@Harrison_Burgeron]

New rivalrly just dropped, reality vs media narratives

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

1:24 they actually did face of a second time in 2016, in december at the European Cross Country Championships (U20 class). Jakob won, Kerr finnished 14th (32 seconds behind)

[@AvocadoPear]

Watching this now, I’m kind of confused as to why people seem to treat Ingebrigtsen as if he’s such an arrogant and deeply unlikeable person. Kerr seems like more of a showboater and big talker to me, despite his lesser record. Unless there’s some other context I’m missing 🤔

[@Wiggy_ton]

I think it’s just egotistic Brit’s? I don’t see it either, Jakob has all the achievements and the Olympic golds. Jakob races in EVERYTHING even if he isn’t in top form, so yeah he is gonna have some “bad” losses. Kerr only shows up to stuff if he feels good. If there is a love for the sport it’s definitely Jakob who had it

[@DemiB5030]

Kerr sounds like an obnoxious ass! He talks of Jakob’s arrogance, yet he won 1 world & has been insufferable 🙄🙄

[@luckyspurs]

Kerr was extremely upbeat and gracious after the race.

[@AvocadoPear]

@@luckyspurs after which race?

[@teijaflink2226]

I don't understand the hate for Jacob either, sure he maybe deservly lost in the 1500 but his run in the 5000 was insane and very impressive. I would like to maybe see him in 10000 instead of 1500. I think he's very entertaining.

[@RunnerBoi]

Minor correction: Should have been 1-8 for the annotation, not 1-9.

[@DavidGarcia-h5l]

I will educate you and bring you up to date... but awesome great piece...I comend and respect your PRESENTATION WOW

[@DavidGarcia-h5l]

Interesting two WHITE guys getting it on ...I pose this could either be at lasse viren

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

It's 8-1 in Jakob's favor in the 1500m. And 1-0 in Kerr's favor in the mile.

[@harryw3310]

Its a cracking rivalry and long let it continue, always great to see it competitive

[@DistortedDan_]

I think Kerr has just made some unnecessary statements to try to get in Jakob’s head, and naturally Jakob responded

[@JaySizz]

Agreed. They aren't quite on the same level... Kerr is trying to get there and seems to talk first with the hopes he can keep up with what he's said. In ten years, they'll barely be mentioned in the same conversation.

[@tofuwu_]

@@JaySizzsame number of 1500 world titles?

[@joshuaolayanju9658]

@@tofuwu_ Yeah, but don't forget the iconic world records that Jakob has broken, Hicham's 2000m and the legendary Komen 2 mile record. Also a 3:27 and 3:43.

[@JohnJohn-cu7nk]

​​@@JaySizzYou are really wrong. Kerr has developed later and Jacob is struggling to deal with it.Kerr is now applying the mental pressure.Looking at Jacobs reactions it's working.You can see it in his body language and responses. That dive in his last race screamed desperation not to lose again, despite being out ran.

[@cliffrightmove1527]

Have you been listening or are you thick,Kerr has been a perfect gentleman,you think Jakob has he is utterly arrogant any athlete doing what he does in his races shows lack of respect for his fellow competitors,you are a fool 🥵

[@mark1980100]

Kerr: "I think he is a very big attention seeker" 🤣 Kerr is the one manufacturing this "rivalry"

[@vincentvangogh8092]

hes using the other guy as motivation thats all

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Some people like to buy into the gossip ABOUT Kerr and Ingebrigsen because that's what the media pushes. That press conference at 13:30 was an example of the inept questioning by the media. Both Kerr and Ingebrigsen seemed indifferent to it. And Nuguse was just himself.

[@timothyfranklin6040]

I've never liked what I've heard when Kerr opens his mouth. Overall, I'd say Jakob is the star and Kerr is just trying to ride his coattails to more fame and attention. But props to Kerr's recent success.

[@martynnotman3467]

The spoilt brat here is not Kerr. Ingebritsen is a terrible loser​@@timothyfranklin6040

[@goldytwatus1674]

Turning to the crowd and waving your hands at them mid race in the semis, then finishing 2nd in the finals and complaining that you had a sore throat is what we call dumbmode

[@softpool1286]

ignoring running for a second, imo kerr needs to work on his sunglasses choices 😂 hes got some crazy taste

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

Diamond League wins: Kerr: 1, Jakob: 13 Diamond League podiums: Kerr: 3, Jakob: 21 (If we're only counting 1500m/mile)

[@shaun__3]

By that logic, T. Cheruiyot has 21 DL wins and therefore is better than Jakob.

[@rube7614]

​@@shaun__3 It is about a rivalry between Kerr and Jakob and you start to babble about Cheruiyot, what are you doing mate...

[@shaun__3]

@@rube7614 Just using the same logic mate

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

@@shaun__3 Cheruiyot is 5 years older than Jakob, so that should be expected. If we include Jakob's DL wins in the 2000m, 3000m, 2 mile, and 5000m he is close to 21 or beyond.

[@noone-ld7pt]

@@shaun__3 I mean yea? Cheuiyots career accolades are objectively better at this point in time. He is a also 5 years older so unless Jacob decides to quit very soon, he will definitely catch Cheruiyot long before he reaches his age. The point is Kerr is *also* older than Jacob, by 3 years in fact, but is still very far behind him in top level performances and medals. At this point Kerr's biggest claim to fame is beating Jacob twice, while Jacobs accolades speak for themselves. But he does seems to have found another gear and it makes me very excited to see them go head to head in the olympics.

[@MF-ng9um]

The Olympic 1500 was the first time I’ve seen these guys and now I’m fully invested in the rivalries 😂

[@joshuapatrick682]

that thumbnail aged so well!!!

[@distantlight4527]

"for some unknown reason". Chuckle.

[@ygbh5934]

although i prefer kerr, this rivalry seems a bit forced from him i can’t lie

[@BTheTrue]

the irony of Kerr calling ANYONE an attention seeker. 😮

[@Ekzotika-g8w]

That look from Kerr had me dying at 13:36

[@josiahm.8711]

that and his interesting hand placement

[@georgemorley1029]

Jakob Ingebritsen looks like a KD Lang tribute singer.

[@ninz5250]

I watched the Bowerman mile in person, I actually applaud Jakob for showing up when it was very clear that his training cycle is very different from Josh’s, and Josh was much sharper at the time because of British championships. I don’t think this win for Josh means he’s the favorite for gold in Paris.

[@mintywebb]

There is no such thing as a college dareer in sport outside the USA.

[@SBanderaB]

Pass is irrelevant - the rivalry is now because Kerr is only good enough now..... of course it is. These two could be the best 2 milers who ever lived. Special times and we should enjoy it.

[@hertor8803]

Who cares what the record is since 2018? The point is that it's a rivalry now and right now I can't tell you which one will win Olympic gold (maybe neither). These kind of rivalries are exactly what athletics needs. We have another one between 3 of them in the women's 800m. I love it.

[@joaquinmcgee9901]

Perfectly said. Kerr seems to be entering his prime years, progression is never linear. Hopefully this rivalry keeps up

[@luckyspurs]

Yeah, this videos so dumb it's actually put me off the channel. Like saying Leverkusen v Bayern isn't a rivalry now because Bayern used to dominate them 6 years ago.

[@DemiB5030]

There is no rivalry. Just Kerr’s big ass butthurt mouth. Jakob has smashed the dude!

[@amblincork]

The sport of running doesnt need trash talk or juveline behaviour. The way Noah Lyles behaved before the start of 100 metres Olympic final is a more extreme example of thrash behaviour that embarasses the sport of running

[@victorianoelle9043]

Hocker manifesting that gold in the background 😎

[@BiggusDiggusable]

Not surprised they didnt really go at it. Norway not really know for having a culture if trash talking

[@DJjussi1]

Media portrayed Jakob to be much worse than he seems

[@Brett733]

I didn't realize how light Kerr's Scottish accent was. In some of those clips he sounds downright "American"

[@Cassiopeia-hn5ue]

I met him at Oregon relays and he really did sound almost American

[@tandemdwarf745]

He did have his whole college career in the US, so he might've lost some accent then

[@alexf7377]

I spent 2 and a bit teenage years in the USA, and I was totally a yank by the time I returned to the UK. Very easy to pick up an accent (particularly American) at a young age and socialising/working every day. I should add that Edinburgh folk (depending on class) have a rather light accent.

[@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv]

No way in hell does he sound american lol. You probly hardly speak English

[@tandemdwarf745]

@@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv I've lived in the USA my whole life and I was surprised by how American his accent was. Try being less of a dickhead, it does wonders.

[@WillCam]

bro had brakence playing at 12:00

[@Wiggy_ton]

Being honest without knowing anything I thought Kerr was “winning” this rivalry but the more I look at it Jakob is winning. Jakob has the Olympic gold medals and he is always racing all year long, meanwhile Kerr only races a few races a year on top form. Yeah my eyes been opened, Kerr is the bigger choker.

[@filipe_paixao]

Jakob also has the World Records for 2k, 3K and 2miles (also the 1.5k indoors). That's 4 world records 💀 And he seems to be still improving this year. (He also has yet to start going for bigger distances... he probably will shine more in 5k, 10K and half marathon once he focus on that in a few years. Which is absolutely insane since again.... he already has 4 WR.

[@nikolaiborbe3366]

Watching this after Jacobs 3:26 is funny. He is on another level, and it's not even close.

[@isaz597]

You do realise 3:26 is for the 1500m not the 3:45 run by Kerr in the video which was the Mile right?

[@alexcooper6265]

Reading this after the Olympics is funny.

[@nikolaiborbe3366]

@@alexcooper6265 yeah ik lol

[@TY-sx3jb]

Yeah, Kerr is clear 😂

[@Kyrelel]

Who would have thought that the #1 and #2 would be more competitive with each other than #99 and #100

[@canuckowl]

Jacob drags others to their best times ever. Kerr has not done that.

[@parmaman8551]

Rivalries are good as athletes will push each other further that way.

[@ToddWood-mq2gg]

The times that jacob has been beaten he had also ran heats in the 5000m

[@ZiggyMercury]

3:02: I don't understand, they just threw the medals at the athletes right after the race - no podium, no nothing?

[@brian2519]

We need a video on the crazy race we had yesterday 🎉

[@Beeznhunny]

Kerr sure seems to spend a lot of time thinking about and talking about Ingebrigtsen, yeesh, just enjoy your win man. Its like the guy lives in Kerr’s head.

[@gyorkshire257]

It seems to work though, he keeps beating him. However, it probably cost him the Olympic gold. If he'd let him go just a little further ahead, he would have had the strength to hold off Hocker.

[@BenTV]

Brakence instrumental. Makes a great video even better

[@n6stmd16]

Funny how Cole hocker came on top 😂

[@brandondaniels9471]

Thanks for the video. I've been looking for a video exactly like this on this topic ;)

[@agilagilsen8714]

I love how much attention Kerr has spent making this a rivalry. He has lost almost every race against Jakob, and while he did win the last two, which is commendable, it just feels as if it’s way to early to say that this is a proper rivalry. Hopefully Jakob can be a bit more graceful in defeat (although he is doing his interviews in a second language), perhaps Kerr could learn to be a little graceful in victory.

[@chipsandgravy4387]

with one of the last two being THE world championship final 💀🙏

[@katy3901]

Kerr's just taking the mick, he was the first to be self-deprecating when he won the world indoors.

[@luckyspurs]

"Lost almost every race". Funny how he's won almost every race in the last year though.

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Its the media that is so intent on making this a rivalry not Kerr or Ingebrigsen. So you swallowed the media narrative!? That's all!!

[@curtisbme]

"perhaps Kerr could learn to be a little graceful in victory." You mean he could stop acting like Jakob?

[@MRTatsaa]

It 100% makes sense and is good for the sport

[@shahiru4787]

I think whats happening is that Kerr and Ingebrigtsen are much more evenly matched then as shown by the racing history so far. The only reason kerr was struggling to match ingebrigtsen in the earlier years is because at the time Kerr had just completed college, and was only beginning to start his pro training, whereas jakob had been training pro since he was 17. In the future to come this rivalry will definitely become way more interesting, and the 2028 olympics as of now imo is very up in the air as to who will come out on top.

[@malehumanperson7901]

The 2028 Olympics will most likely be won by the likes of Niels Laros now at 19 years of age, Hobbs Kessler at 21 or Cameron Myers at 18 (or some Kenyan phenom who comes out of nowhere as they often do). It's rare to repeat in the 15 at global level and even more so in Olympic cycles.

[@filipe_paixao]

​@malehumanperson7901 yeah, I think by 28 Jakob will probably focus on 5k or maybe even go to 10K. His best distances are probably going to be 10K.

[@brianjohnsadventure]

I would like to agree with your assessment overall. And nice video that you put together. Just to reiterate some of the things that you said at the end that I tend to agree with. Obviously Josh has a couple of very nice races in recent history I still believe Jakob is better and he also wasn’t in peak form last race. You could argue the last two races because he said that he had a sore throat. That’s up to anyone whether they believe that or not. But I think pretty much anyone should believe that he probably should not have been peak shape for this last race after being injured for eight months. So I would say it’s pretty incredible that he still wasn’t very far off.

[@andyatkinson9156]

Kerr is arrogant. The only reason Ingebrigtsen doesn’t like him is because he’s arrogant as well…and Kerr seems a threat to his medal chances.

[@wesleytwiggs7687]

I love the rivalry personally.

[@bituminouscole]

It always feels worth mentioning to me, that it many of these races, Jakob is in fact the pacemaker. At 2023 worlds he lead most of the race, he is certainly doing the brunt of the work, and still performing very well, and Kerr is completely ignoring that in all of his comments. Josh Kerr lets everybody else do all the work and then kicks the last 200, which while a successful race style, is arguably not as difficult as what Jakob likes to do, which is race out front. Granted at the Bowerman Mile, Kerr did take it with 600 to go, which was an excellent move.

[@katy3901]

I mean, if they're there to race then the better runner is the one with the better strategy, not the one who paces the most. Jakob knows he's fast when the pace is more consistent, but he's not the best finisher. He needs to put more light between himself and the rest of the field in the first half if he wants to get close in Paris.

[@katy3901]

Your comment is interesting, though, because Jakob seems to struggle much more in the races without other pacers.

[@bituminouscole]

@@katy3901 Certainly, he does incredibly well when someone else or himself in some cases takes it out very fast, but you are right in your previous comment, if the pace is inconsistent he struggles a lot more. Unfortunately for him most of his competition, Kerr, Wightman, Hocker, Neguse, and others all do better in a more tactical scenario and have a better kick than Jakob. Jakob is certainly a better 5k runner than those men, but they are all true 1500m specialists whereas Jakob probably isn't, he is just so aerobically strong that he does well anyway

[@katy3901]

@@bituminouscole I think you've hit the nail on the head there

[@ajbahus]

Ironically, Timothy served as the pacemaker when Jakob won the gold in the Olympics.

[@ThePoushal]

Hocker watched this video.

[@taylorkracher4721]

It doesnt matter whatever somebody was running 9 months ago. If someone is full steam ahead coming for your ass and beating you where it matters, it is an authentic rivalry.

[@darragh1353]

Coming back here after the Olympic final 🍿

[@michaeltnk1135]

And Hocker beat both of them 🇺🇸

[@hiddendiz7612]

As much as I love watching them go back and forth, right now this is a rivalry in the same sense that Maria Sharapova and Serena Williams was a rivalry.

[@luckyspurs]

Except in that case Sharapova won early and got dominated the rest of her career. Kerr was dominated early, but is now the one winning.

[@phillylifer]

Taking Cram's record is really something. Well done, Josh!

[@JohnJohn-cu7nk]

Loved Cram and Ovett.Hated the other one😂

[@johnstones66]

I reckon that Jakob doesn't get enough credit for his results in the 5000m. I guess it's treated like it's his second event because he isn't close to the world record, but in race situations he keeps winning.

[@robinbauer1975]

Tbh jake wightman won bowerman mile 3:47 going out hard in may is insane for him 3:50 Mile for Jake = 3:29 low 1.500 3:47 Mile for Jake = 3:26 Olympic Champion

[@nickfaraci94]

I mean Jakobs PB is nearly 2 seconds faster than Kerr’s and has 7 races with a faster time than Kerr’s PB. Once he’s back into shape I don’t think Kerr is really gonna stand a chance.

[@bluerfoot]

It’s not easy to have to lead most of the race and hope stronger kickers fold.

[@samburn2156]

@@bluerfootand like they mention in the video, a lot of those fast times had pacers, as all events hoped Jakob would follow it through for a new WR

[@xianruwang]

Sure they're rivalries no doubt cuz they'll finally face each other again this summer in Paris

[@MrPek-fe9fp]

Damn, I thought Ingebrigtsen was insufferable. Kerr seems to take the lead here.

[@TY-sx3jb]

How?

[@RarityG_]

your delusional thoughts thinking Kerr is in the lead when Jakob ingebrigtsen has 2 olympic gold medals in 1500m and 5000m🥇and many more achievements than Kerr. Kerr is the arrogant one who has yet to prove himself❗

[@gyorkshire257]

@@RarityG_ At the minute Kerr is the better man at 1500/mile m distance, though obviously in the past ingebrigtsen was better.

[@filipe_paixao]

​@@gyorkshire257better runner, worse timer.

[@gyorkshire257]

@@filipe_paixao Not sure what you mean by that? If you are saying that Ingebrigtsen has run faster, times, well, yeah, but only when there is a skilled pacemaker going at exactly the pace he needs. Otherwise he will always get beaten on the sprint.

[@jaqmart]

i bet on Hocker at 10/1 for the Olympics!

[@MrPek-fe9fp]

Really

[@englishmuffinpizzas]

Honestly I think they both need to chill. Its not a great look to flaunting around after losses like Jakob, but Josh is definitely talking an awful lot given their life time head to head at this point

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

Both Kerr and Ingebrigsen are chill it's the media that lives to hype rivalry and conflict even if none exists. And some viewers buy into that keep. Let's put the spot lights on you several times a year and see how you handle it.

[@austinbernal1312]

Watched this video after the prelim. So happy to see USA dominate this race and Hocker pull off the upset.

[@HenkieHeadache]

Kerr is 'just' one of his rivals. The difference is that Kerr wants to beat Ingebrigtsen and Ingebrigtsen wants to be the best runner ever.

[@Onyxraye]

Ingebrigsen has gone out of his way to take shots at Kerr, so he clearly sees him as a main rival

[@tedallison6112]

Not true Jakob doesn't "see" kerr @ all----- Kerr is just an annoying caricature of what he hopes to gain,a would be... All true champions, def not kerr,are 180 degrees different from every perspective, especially attitude. Take El gueroj, he's a genuinely nice guy,caring ,humble,devout, double WR holder. Then look @ Kerr? He's a clown by any possible comparison..A BIG MOUTH WANNA BE CHUMPION. No matter the outcome of Paris,Jakob will continue on & get both the mile & 1500 WR's.Wait 4 it. Done.

[@AidenMcMahon-vt5ik]

Kerr wins in the finals when it matters womp womp jakobs rolled

[@AidenMcMahon-vt5ik]

Well if he wants to be the best then he should beat Kerr and win world championships which he didn’t do 😹😹😹

[@722.fxbien2]

@@AidenMcMahon-vt5ikwait till paris🥱

[@X777-w6o]

Not anymore. One got silver the other nothing.

[@joshuapatrick682]

Jakob had an interesting strategy for the Olympics which was to gas himself setting the pace for 90% only for the fresher runners to overtake him on the final straight. Not sure why he thought that was a good strategy but it did allow for the winner to set an Olympic record!

[@soundninja99]

He has a worse sprint than Kerr (and in Hindsight, Hocker and Nuguse too), so his best bet was to try to tire them out to reduce their sprint power or create a gap before they reach sprinting distance. Fact is, Ingebrigsten was just weaker than his 1500m competitors that day and lost. His strategy may seem like a bad one, but the result would likely have been the same if he had taken it easier. Hopefully for him, he can redeem himself with a 5k gold

[@gyorkshire257]

@@soundninja99 I disagree, if he'd gone a bit slower he'd have got a medal, probably silver behind Kerr. His strategy was alright, but he executed wrongly by burning off too fast. At the minute he's just not good enough over 1500m to beat Kerr. Kerr shouldn't have followed him as closely, then he'd probably have had enough in his legs to hold the gold from Hocker.

[@soundninja99]

@@gyorkshire257 that's a fair point actually, but in hindsight. He underestimated Hocker and Nuguse which is understandable because most people did. Hocker even said in an interview that he understood why people underestimated him, but knew he was in a better form than he's been in, and that he's worked on his kick. The tactical blunder he did was thinking he was only racing Kerr and Kerr's blunder was to only race Ingebrigtsen

[@gyorkshire257]

@@soundninja99 I think so, even as a GB supporter I was pleased for Hocker because it was clear the big 2 lost because they thought they were racing each other.

[@soundninja99]

@@gyorkshire257 same! I was heartbroken as a Norwegian fan, but Hocker's underdog upset to essentially be gifted an Olympic record was amazing to watch. Big cudos to the guy.

[@cattycats4]

If it was a real rivalry Kerr wouldve shown up at the European championships but he was too busy cycling PEDs, how is he going to be "in shape" for the Olympics if he takes part in the Euros?... meanwhile Jakob is diving over the line in the diamond league and taking the European crown.... Plus Kerr keeps going after obscure rarely run records like 2 mile 1 mile etc rather than making any real interest like matching Jakobs 1500 times

[@shaun__3]

Because he's on a different cycle to Jakob. Kerr has done plenty of high profile races. Since winning at Budapest, Josh has ran in the 5th Avenue Mile, did a half-marathon in San Diego, did the 2 mile at Millrose, did the 3000m at World Indoors, and the Mile at the Pre Classic. Ducking PEDs my ass. He'll be at British trials in the 800m and probably do a 1500m/mile before the olympics. Honestly this is just bizarre hatred and shows your lack of knowledge. Jakob has went for obscurer rarely ran records too. He literally went out to set the 2-mile outdoor/outright world record at a Diamond League meet last year! Jakob is the one that's ducked meets according to your logic - he didn't go world indoors! There's a 1500m at Monaco and a week later there's a mile at London. I bet both duck each other. Josh could go for his home crowd in London and I bet Jakob goes to Monaco.

[@joshuaolayanju9658]

@@shaun__3 Outdoor 2-mile record was one of the most difficult and revered world records, not so much the indoor record.

[@shaun__3]

@@joshuaolayanju9658 So much so it was in the pre-televised part of the meet. Real spectacle.

[@joshuaolayanju9658]

@@shaun__3 It isn’t a diamond league discipline, hence, it wasn’t televised. If you ask anybody that knows anything about track and field they will tell you how iconic that record was. Daniel Komen was no joke, and it lasted 20+ years.

[@shaun__3]

@@joshuaolayanju9658 fair enough lol you are right

[@candiceverpaelst-ud3kk]

Don't like hearing about this rivalry over and over again

[@miller10]

Good vid, You’ve got to make one on Shane cohen and his insane kick in the 800m. He had the same sprint finish at east regionals, semis and finals and all were prs.

[@CPWS_The_Stingray]

Ingebrigtsen is a better and more consistent runner, but he just fails to maintain it for championships. He has the speed to beat everyone, but his biggest problem is that he just front runs and can't finish. It was fun seeing him pace for the 1500m in paris tho! Track needs some more personality tho, it's cool to watch the best run, but its even better to see who they really are.

[@Aberger789]

Jakob just had a baby. Anyone who isn't an absent father knows that it fucks up your sleep and training schedules... hmmm...

[@tonyfranklin8306]

Hmmm indeed, I call bullshit on that. I was doing early morning feeds, helping change nappies, looking after my partners other kids from previous relationship whilst she recovered postpartum. Oh, whilst holding down an actual full time job doing split shifts (so travelling to/from work twice a day and at weekends and nights, standing up all day in 30-40C heat every single day. Excuses over having a child for training a few hours a day is absolute codswallop

[@filipe_paixao]

He Beat the UNBEATABLE World Record of the 3K recently. (By 3 seconds) So if that's true, he might break HIS own record even more.

[@Aberger789]

@@filipe_paixao the diamond league results recently certainly show he is performing very well.

[@Zakarias89]

My private theory is that norwegians of Ingebrigtsens generation is likely to be have been affected by Petter Northug, the master of creating drama and rivalry in his sport. And maybe take after some of his manners and attitudes as a consequence. But not everyone is built like Northug, and his style is not gonna work for everyone

[@nro337]

this will come down to Jakob's fitness. It will take an OR to win.

[@robford3211]

If Kerr wins gold in Paris and LA then sure it’s a rivalry otherwise one is peaking the other not

[@luckyspurs]

If Kerr wins in Paris, it's not a rivalry, it's a Kerr domination. Jakob's a 5,000m star at that point.

[@CliveBramham]

Great job on this vid. Yeah, Jakob is one of the best the world has ever seen and Kerr is out to get him. From Jakob's point of view, there is no rivalry. But maybe there will be going forward. For sure, Jakob wants competition. Your video came too early to catch Jakob's 3:26.7 in Monaco. This olympic final is likely to be the best field ever assembled. Kerr, Nuguse are Tim Cheruiyot are top contenders. Anything can happen on the day. If Kerr beats Jakob and wins the Olympics and DL final and runs a 3:26 1500 this year, we got ourselves a bona fide rivalry.

[@phillylifer]

They were both paid to play up the rivalry thing.

[@amblincork]

World records at distances that are rarely raced are a bit contrived

[@hawkseyy]

12:10 last place i thought i’d hear a brakence song