The Tragic Queen of Britain & Empress of India | Alexandra of Denmark

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Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into the life of Alexandra of Denmark, a Danish Princess who became Queen of the United Kingdom and the British Dominions, and Empress of India. But despite her position she had a sad life.
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[@emilybarclay8831]

It was actually unlikely Alexandra’s children were premature. People noted how large and healthy most of them were, and modern historians believe she lied to Victoria about their due dates so that she could escape Victoria’s invasiveness and so she could give birth in peace

[@SafetySpooon]

Yes - thank you for mentioning this!!

[@heatheravant4679]

I totally agree

[@bec9696]

I may or may not have done that with my mother😅

[@annettefournier9655]

Smart of her.

[@sballantine8127]

From everything I've read about her, Queen Victoria was a mother and the mother-in-law from hell

[@cindysaroya1251]

What a lovely and decent person she was, and how much more than Edward's "brood mare". She was too good for him. Thanks for this very interesting story, so we'll told.

[@ForgottenLives]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@cindysaroya1251]

@@ForgottenLives I always enjoy your videos, and I look forward to them very much. Thanks for making them!

[@Ettibridget]

True, she must have been a saint.

[@tessdurberville711]

​@@Ettibridget She was a strong,intelligent woman who understood, respected, and loved her husband. She was not vindictive or petty.

[@Ettibridget]

@@tessdurberville711 True. But her husband was a pig.

[@maryloumawson6006]

I don't think her life was tragic, but she was, by all accounts a very kind, and sympathetic woman. She met and befriended John Merrick, the Elephant Man. They met in the hospital and she wasn't afraid to be near him, or put off by his looks. She spoke to him as a regular person and they were friends for the rest of his life. She visited Denmark almost every August to keep close with her parents and siblings. Later when her parents had passed, she and her sister Dagmar (Tsarina Maria of Russia) bought a villa together for their annual holiday in Denmark. Their father Christian IX is known as the father in law of Europe and through him she is related to every royal house in Europe.

[@Blue-Eyes2525]

Joseph Carrey Merrick

[@Vallyrah]

the title Queen Mother, does NOT belong to the widow of the king. It belongs to the mother of the king. These are often the same, but not always. Catherine Parr is one such example.

[@wendigo1919]

Alexandra was always one of my favourite royals. In many photos of her younger years, she bears an uncanny resemblance to actor Uma Thurman. She's absolutely stunning. Great video as always...

[@brummieinbristol522]

and a little like Diana!

[@lindahansen45]

I think the danish queen Margrethe has a resemble to her. But then again they´re family.

[@rachellesch8681]

I was just thinking that she looks like Uma Thurman

[@bunnymad5049]

@@brummieinbristol522 I was just saying to myself that I could see Diana in her, even though they're not related. Some of the looks and the half smile ...

[@tessdurberville711]

​Must you sycophants always bring Diana into everything?

[@MsBlackdeath13]

Christian IX of Denmark is also known as The Father in law of Europe. A lot of his kids either became rulers or married rulers around Europe. Maybe you could look into this next.

[@ForgottenLives]

Indeed! I might have to!

[@sheenleng4096]

And also he is unsuccessful to ask Queen Victoria's hand in marriage.

[@michaelplunkett8059]

Not tragic, that was her sister, the Czarina Dowager. Alexandra was beautiful, respected and adored by her family.

[@valentina6429]

The tragic part was: 1) being cheated on pretty much from day one 2) Developed an illness that made her limp and deaf. 3) she lost a couple kids

[@tessdurberville711]

​@@valentina6429 #1 is not tragic. She was a logical woman. She grew up understanding the way things were. She never played the victim about any of it. A lady to be admired.

[@bettyjames4155]

I have a suggestion. Maybe do a video about Vivien Thomas. He was largely responsible for a medical procedure to repair the hearts of babies born with a rare medical condition.

[@ForgottenLives]

I will look into it!

[@noorgonzalez1076]

😮😊

[@hansmiller664]

Your YT channel should be a duty in history classes in schools all over the world! Not only that your researches are outstanding thoroughly, but you make it understandable and you rise interest for children. Which is very important, that they UNDERSTAND history! THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Your channel is a precious Gift👍👍👍☘️🌹☘️🌹☘️🌹☘️

[@ForgottenLives]

Thank you for the comment, really appreciate it :)

[@MsLucyHeart]

I also have Otosclerosis, it isn’t often that I come across others that have it. Let alone a Queen!

[@zero_bs_tolerance8646]

Thank you and congrats on your 4th year anniversary!

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks to you for the support !

[@danielintheantipodes6741]

Everyone loved her in contrast to her poor tragic sister, the Russian dowager. Thank you for the video!

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks for watching!!

[@monicacall7532]

One of the big contrasts of Alexandra’s life and that of her sister was that in Russia the royal family had very, very strict protocols which made it difficult for them to get out and meet their subjects and learn firsthand what they needed from their leaders. Centuries of serfdom had such negative consequences for both the royals and their people. Alexandra was out and about in England and the British Empire before her husband became king. I pity her because she was just supposed to shut up and put up with her husband’s serial philandering.

[@lightning.mcqueef]

Maria Feodorovna was actually very well-liked by the Russian people. It really wasn't until her son Nicholas II took over when extreme hatred and resentment toward the Russian imperial family became prevalent. There were groups who never liked the imperial family but Maria herself was relatively popular.

[@raphaelledesma9393]

Her sister was actually popular with the Russian people: beautiful, took the time to learn to speak and read Russian, and she focused on charity which means that she was not accused of being political. It also helped that Denmark and Russia had good relationships. Remember that one thing that also made her successor Alexandra unpopular was that she was German during WW1.

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[@ForgottenLives]

Thank you :)

[@GadeadelCid]

Very well narrated story. Interesting. Thank you.

[@prudencepineapple9448]

The high-collar necklaces were to cover a surgical scar. For that she was a fashion trendsetter. Her limp was imitated by the 'fashion-set/zeitgeist' of the day for some strange reason. I can't remember which writer/friend(?) who said she had this beauty routine of applying acres of 'powder' to her face in later life. Unfortunately towards the end of the day the powder would clump in the wrinkles she was trying to hide. The white 'mask' was cracking/flaking into macabre monster. That's his/hers words, not mine! Queen Mary also had a difficult path to marriage.

[@francesaggarwal22]

Very interesting video , thank you ! She doesn't strike me as tragic, but as a strong and caring, and much loved lady.

[@JJW77]

You made history so much more interesting with your narration.

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks!!

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[@ForgottenLives]

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The first of your videos I watched was on Queen Isabella II of Spain and I was instantly hooked. Your narration is flawless and I enjoyed hearing about their inner lives. New subscriber here and I look forward to bingeing on your channel. Thank you.

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I like your history lessons. Thank you

[@smecclesshwifty8548]

Bertie had appendicitis, not an abscess. He had an operation to remove it (hence the postponement of the coronation) it was apparently one of the first successful appendix operations in british history.

[@zzzbbbooo]

He had an appendiceal abscess.

[@tessdurberville711]

His doctor was Frederick Treves. He was knighted soon after.

[@berenicewaters4096]

Congratulations on your 4th year anniversary! I loved your video from the princes from Denmark later queen consort of England.

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks!

[@susannahdyro4845]

Good seeing your channel again she is so beautiful 😊 I love that time period and the hair styles

[@nancyM1313]

always enjoy your videos⚘

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks as always :)

[@WhoWho569]

She was absolutely beautiful, and in a very modern standard way. I feel for her having had to marry Albert tho. All that over-privilege and queenly status wouldn’t have made that any worth for me. I feel for any woman who is made to marry into the British crown.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Most women married in the 1800's were in either an arranged marriage or a marriage where the pool of prospective husbands were limited to one's own socio-economic group. Or prospective husbands pre-screened with the daughter allowed to meet with a limited numer of pre-approved men.

[@valentina6429]

I don’t feel sorry for any woman marrying in the British Royal family. Some, who shall remain unnamed, take advantage of that…

[@Faye-Jane]

@@valentina6429 What choice did these women have? It was not them who gets to decide.

[@andycortes9617]

Congrats for anniversary!!!

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks for the support XD

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

I feel bad that she never had the faithful romantic love she deserved but at least, unlike most, she was one of the few who were wise to realize to never divorce. It’s worth noting she is more remembered than her unfaithful husband and yet she still remained selfless and kind.

[@TALLDRINKUVWATER]

They must have great food and if you look around inside & out it really is nicely decorated, wholesome very charming.just like him!!!

[@stellashelton621]

Reminds me of Diana. She also aged like a fine wine. Her husband got older and she just kept looking the same.

[@annewalden3795]

Diana died aged 36 and sadly did not grow old.

[@stellashelton621]

I know Diana died but she always looked good didn’t she?

[@margaretr5701]

Diana was much younger, she died while still in relative youth.

[@tessdurberville711]

​@@annewalden3795She was aging. Too thin,too much sun, chopped off hair. She would be 62. She would look like her mother and sisters now.

[@annewalden3795]

@@tessdurberville711 Diana was actually very fit and at the time of her death she had a perfect figure .I think the tragedy is that just before her car accident she had finally conquered her demons and was very healthy . Honestly she was very happy as can be seen from her holiday photographs.

[@shaunpaul8068]

Aline Griffith Countess Of Romanones is a fascinating character to look into ❤ your videos bud

[@Radiance1324]

Queen Alexandra, the most beautiful, loving, and dutiful Queen consort of Great Britain. She had high morals and didn't let her husband's infidelities shake her morals. She remained true to her character. While Alexandra knew about her husband's extra-marital relationships, she once told a friend, "He loved me the most." She gave permission for Alice Keppel ( One of her husband King Edward's mistress and the current Queen consort Camilla's great- grandmother to visit his deathbed, but quickly asked her to leave when she became somewhat dramatic.)

[@am-yu6jo]

Somewhat dramatic? What do you mean

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

I agree with you. Queen Alexandra is quite an icon! Unfortunately, if she were alive today, a lot of people would consider her a doormat for staying with a playboy king.

[@tessdurberville711]

​@@PrincessQ-fj9ly Only the foolish feminists and bitter divorcees. I admire her for loving him and maintaining her dignity. Women who air their private marital details are beyond contempt.

[@kristinmoreno9203]

Alexandra of Denmark appears to have been a Remarkable woman. 🌹🌹Thank you for sharing your lovely History videos. Well Done! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@ForgottenLives]

Indeed! Thanks for watching!

[@MissBee13]

She was beautiful in and out.

[@andypham1636]

Nice video but you failed to mention how she was very tolerant of her husband's mistresses. She even let one of them see her husband while he was dying

[@twaimzlover3132]

Yes, Alice Keppel. A distant relative of Camilla Parker Bowles. The current queen consort.

[@andypham1636]

@@twaimzlover3132 her great grandma, lmao

[@twaimzlover3132]

@@andypham1636 I wasn’t sure if it was one great or two.

[@mauricedavis2160]

Another excellent episode Sir!!!🙏👌🦉❣️

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks!!

[@mariannerosenstrom627]

Thank you for this video of my favourite Nordic royal. 😊

[@jamesdalton3082]

This was a very well done and interesting presentation. Even though I'm an avowed Anglophile and quite familiar with the history of The Royal Family, I still found this very informative. One of the better commentaries on the Victorian / Edwardian times I've seen. Keep up the good work!

[@Grace.allovertheplace]

Hi 🙏 Thanks you so much as always 🌻🌱

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My pleasure!

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[@sewgood568]

I'm loving this series and finding out about these fabulous women.

[@heartofoak45]

It was no more hardship than any other wife of an aristocratic husband of the time. She loved her husband all her life and unbelievably King Edward loved her. When the King died she would not allow them to take his body away for several days.

[@zabrinna6554]

Well done :)

[@lisar915r9]

You have such a nice soothing voice

[@gothicgirlfriend7375]

She was so beautiful. No one deserves to be cheated on but why cheat on someone so pretty. Just proves some people are never satisfied

[@annewalden3795]

Her husband enjoyed variety I believe.

[@tessdurberville711]

They had 6 children together. Apparently, she understood is appeal.

[@irishwoman3975]

Thank you.

[@paulwj62]

Alexandra was never called the Queen mother she was as all widows called the Dowager Queen it was only the mother of queen Elisabeth 2nd that refused to lose the queen title and became the queen mother

[@kookiemuncher257]

I love these stories of forgotten people

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks!

[@emmadenton9697]

Loved this episode. Thank you 👍

[@ForgottenLives]

My pleasure!!

[@lisapop5219]

I thought you were called queen mother if you were the mother of the new monarch. If you were the queen consort but not the mother, you would be called the dowager queen. Is this wrong?

[@caramia4143]

Queen mother = typically a former queen who is the mother of the new monarch. Dowager queen = the widow of a king

[@jacquilane5447]

Interesting. Thanks.

[@gmanette188]

Thank you

[@julielarge6120]

Very interesting

[@lillianmcgrew217]

So sad😢😢

[@All_Things_ACE]

She wasn’t Queen Mother. Her title was Dowager Queen. Only Elizabeth Bowles- Lyon mother of Queen Elizabeth II has ever been known as the Queen Mother a title that she requested for herself. Margaret Beaufort Henry Vll mother was known as her Grace the Kings Mother but all other Mothers of the monarch when they have been previous Queen Consorts are known as HRH the Dowager Queen.

[@tessdurberville711]

The Queen Mother despised that title, but it was better than Dowager, which is associated with a hump.

[@MarkettaWalker]

A lot of these pics she reminded me of Princess Diana. Some her life resembles Diana's as well.

[@suzyfarnham3165]

She reminded me so much of Diana at he 6.28 mark of this video.

[@Thecorgially]

From poor financial circumstances to Queen and Queen Mother. Not too shabby.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Pretty much the royal equivalent of a rags to riches story. 👑

[@tessdurberville711]

Well-bred people are never poor, they are simply without funds.

[@alanedwards1179]

Thanks. I always found your research interesting but presentation not so god. You have really worked on that and I will return. Good luck with your channel and your efforts x

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks for the feedback, I am always trying to improve! Are you referring to the narration or the visuals or both? Look foward to your feedback, thanks!

[@maltesemike9114]

Hay nick been sick I can thank god but went to e.r hospital was in I.c.u had stroke I'm good now glad you n mort are well god nless

[@deenagara9151]

I knew her from a 70's periodical show called Edward the King, she's being compared to Princess Diana.

[@sirwelch9991]

Queen Alexandra had given much more than her husband King Edward VII.

[@harrytree7808]

Be informed that at the September 1861 initial meeting between Edward and Alexandra, she lost her innocence and in December 1862, it was obvious that Alexandra was pregnant. Prince Albert was furious and went to confront Edward. Albert died shortly after. Queen Victoria never forgave Edward. Alexandra was sent to South Africa where she met the intended foster parents and in June 1862, a son was born, unannounced, baptized with an adopted name and sadly abandoned. Alexandra returned home and become engaged to Prince Edward and later, they were married, thus legitimising their eldest son. The descendants of this son have irrefutable DNA evidence of their zero distance to the Royal Family members. When contacted, the former Queen of Denmark abdicated. Although the late Queen Elizabeth 2nd sent a complimentary communication, none shown by the current monarch, who has also announced his intention of abdication as have other, related Royal Family members.

[@LaHayeSaint]

It is likely that Queen Mother Alexandra may have been diabetic due to the bursting of a blood vessel in one of her eyes.

[@ExpeditedTravler]

I named my Daughter after her Empriss

[@francismcdonnell753]

Queen Consorts don’t reign, Monarchs reign.

[@am-yu6jo]

I always think Diana Princess of Wales had a real likeness of Queen Alexandra

[@tessdurberville711]

None at all.

[@zzzbbbooo]

@@tessdurberville711 That's only your opinion! Others see things differently. So many of your comments verge on rude.

[@henrytudor8537]

She was so beautiful

[@tareamcguire8984]

Title a bit misleading she was poor not disgraced. Apart from that I do like your channel.

[@cyankirkpatrick5194]

Sorry about that it's just wrong, and happy anniversary.

[@houseofvanity8]

🎉❤❤

[@59tante]

2 snaps up from me

[@jeanmartin6410]

Is she related to Diana Spencer? Some of those photos look just like her.

[@CarterKey6]

So weird that while in America people make a joke of inbreeding in West Virginia but all the while the Royal family is inbreeding for hundreds of years.

[@smecclesshwifty8548]

One of those "what's classy if you're rich but trashy if you're poor?" things

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Inbreding/cousin marriage is not uncommon in the Islamic world. and in isolated rural areas of the world. (For the same reasons that royals/nobles tend to inbred) $$$ remaining in the family.

[@ursula49]

Rather thousands of years.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@ursula49 Yep! Royals have been inbreeding for thousands of years!

[@maylynbayani]

Her looks reminds me Princess Diana

[@hansmiller664]

How can I support you? By PayPal?

[@ForgottenLives]

Hey again, I have never been given a paypal donation before, although I could! I believe there is an option (Superthanks) to donate via youtube but i think YT takes a 30% cut. But soon I will start a Patreon for those who want extra content and can support me :)

[@angelawhite5880]

💖👑

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Thank you Peace 💯🇺🇲

[@dieseldreng]

Her sister Thyra’s life is really tragic. An affair, a illegitimate child. If you can find the facts it will be interesting 🤞🏻

[@toddchase8189]

Content and story was excellent. Just a minor critique, parts of this was narrated much too fast, having to rewind several times to understand what was being said. Overall excellence as normal.

[@ForgottenLives]

I will take that into account, thanks!

[@natalieb.1254]

Not quite sure why this title needed to have "Empress of India." Quite the choice of words when Alexandra had no power over the peoples or government policy in India as Queen Consort for her short stint.

[@FinnishLapphund]

You made around 14½ minute feel like much less, thanks for the interesting history about Queen Alexandra.

[@ForgottenLives]

Thanks very much!! I appreciate it :)

[@nikepanasonic9408]

She looked like Diana….

[@ForgottenLives]

They have been compared a fair amount!

[@kimt4565]

She kinda reminded me of Diana.

[@gdjahmmm]

What was so "tragic" about her life? If you want to present a tragic life of a royal, then her sister would be a much better choice.

[@SafetySpooon]

"Thyra" is pronounced "TY-rah"

[@Ettibridget]

Good video, however there's some room for improvement. 1.10 You mispronounced her sister's name, Thyra. 3.40 Her brother Vilhelm became king of Greece as George I.

[@siggesaltens2663]

Alexandra and her danish siblings pruduced handsome children.

[@crazymemaw3484]

I thought John lived until he was 12. John passed from a seizure

[@lightning.mcqueef]

That was Alexandra's grandson. He was the son of George V and Mary of Teck, brother to George VI and uncle to Elizabeth II.

[@maximhollandnederlandthene7640]

QV Regina was a bit of a controller. 😅 Without this all it wouldnt be like it turned out now. Thinking she all ment well to secure a prosperous future. Still the men in the family had a bon vivant life in compare with the strong regime the wimen had co-op with.🤔😒😅

[@lookhowshegobbledthat]

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[@debbiehunter9996]

Is it just me or does she look like Princess Diana?

[@annewalden3795]

Debbie I do not think she looks like Diana .

[@lagoni8741]

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[@gonefishing167]

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[@keithss67]

She was hardly a suffering person. She was queen and empress. She loved jewels and parties and was the belle of British society. In a day when marriages were arranged and were made on dynastic grounds, it was common for husbands to have mistresses and also for wives to take lovers after they had popped out some heirs. She lived a much better life than 99.9% of the people around her

[@zzzbbbooo]

Alexandra started to lose her hearing in her 20s. That and the fact that her husband was philandering made her withdraw from the social circuit very early on. She had many stresses and tragedies in her life, including the death of two sons.

[@keithss67]

@@zzzbbbooo the tears are flowing 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢🙄

[@keithss67]

@@zzzbbbooo it was quite common in those days for children to die young or be still born. Her own sister the empress of Russia lost children young. It was also quite common for Husbands and wives in the ruling class to carry on affairs (discreetly) as marriages in those days were matters of dynastic importance and were about suitable partners from a social/religious/economically acceptable position. Love was not expected in most cases. They had their children and supported one another in public, but could lead their private lives as they pleased. As far as her deafness went, it hardly stopped her from socializing. She attended many social functions and state functions throughout her life and into old age. She enjoyed parties and balls and loved very fine jewels and clothes and being admired.

[@blueskies6475]

@@keithss67 nobody cares. We're here to find out about her life NOT about finding out the philanderings of a bored husband who had nothing to do except find a place to put his member. 🙄

[@tessdurberville711]

​@blue Women who believe that mistresses are only for physical gratification, are beyond ignorance. A man needs hobbies and someone to enjoy them with. Horseracing, riding, hunting,fishing, cards, theater. Heterosexual men enjoy the company of women. Attractive,charming,women. Many of Edward VII's mistresses were married. If you honestly believe he was sleeping with all of them, you are naive. Diana surrounded herself (publicly) with gays and slept with the hired help and married men. Oh yes, let us not forget the foreigners. What does that say about her?

[@cyankirkpatrick5194]

A current Danish royal got his children titles stripped because he's going to work in the Embassy here in the USA so as revenge the Queen has stripped them of everything,all because he's working in the Danish Embassy here in the USA

[@NannupTiger]

Are you talking about Prince Joachim?

[@cyankirkpatrick5194]

@@NannupTiger I think so they news never mentioned his name they just said that.

[@ismoli1979]

@Cyan Kirkpatrick I live in Danmark and the queen did not strip them of theyr title because joakim "her second son " moving to usa , he took that decision after wards ,he is takin his apanage with him a couple of millions danish krones , tax payers money btw he has not been doing royal work here in Danmark for years also we paid apanage for his 1 wife "millions a year for over 20 years & she got a free house in Denmark most exclusive addresses. Our Queen is doing what we the Danish people want & that is slimming down the monarchy to bear minimum _ Her -the crown prince & his eldest son all the other kids have gotten the best education & top line connection to get good jobs in the future .. No revenge but survival of the monarchy, we need to use our tax money for other things like health care system -education - also joakim was given a big estate with huge land but he got it into so much debt he had to sell it because of his spending habits , so the queen is quite good to him giving him millions with no work here in Dk , btw the queen had a hug back surgery 2 months ago she is over 80 so its a pretty big deal but he or his side of the family did not come to visit her .... he is spoiled & very ungrateful for what he has been handed throughout the years ,,

[@cyankirkpatrick5194]

@@ismoli1979 Thank you for clearing that up for me. I was going on what the news were saying.😊 So he's like Waaagh

[@NannupTiger]

@@cyankirkpatrick5194 I thought he was just upset that his mother, Queen Margrethe took away some titles from his children. I didn't realise that he was going to work in the US embassy!

[@marklestermaaliw2697]

Queen Alexandra is one of my favorite royals in United Kingdom. Beautiful inside-out. May she rest in peace with the Lord Jesus Christ.

[@garywait3231]

Blinkist is but a despicably pretentious and snobby version of Reader's Digest. I am sorry to see you promoting it.

[@user-te4of2fq5d]

Inbreeding for centuries, European royal houses afflicted with a glossary of terrible hereditary diseases.

[@jodyharnish9104]

Was she the queen who walked with a limp and started a trend? Cobblers even made uneven shoes for women to give them a limp. Do you know who that was?

[@sta333sim]

victoria try to walk over all her kids and daughters and son in laws.