The Trainman was the First Architect ! | MATRIX EXPLAINED

[@ImTabe]

Man do not know how you keep coming up with new ideas about this 20 year old franchise, I am actually impressed!

[@NoneOfyourBusiness468]

I wonder if even the Wachowskis could even plan so much as Matrix Explained explains.

[@vkain100]

This is an older video reposted.

[@pehhii]

And all the content can be uploaded again due to copyright claims.

[@ZionistWorldOrder]

it is impressive, not keeping count but regular videos about this old epic is unique

[@mrpocock]

It's an old fan-theory. The Train Man as a previous Architect and Merovingian as a previous One.

[@Jesslynn_Tjoe777]

The most Obvious clue to this scene is the name of the station, Mobil Ave. Mobil is an anagram of “Limbo”, and “ave” is Latin for both “welcome” and “farewell”. so Mobil Ave could be translated Welcome/farewel Limbo. then Limbo, in Catholic theology, was believed to be the border place between heaven and hell where those souls who died without being baptised. in Neo Case, his mind stuck between matrix and real world.

[@keksi6844]

Hollywood worships GREEK MYTHOLOGY because they think those are their gods.John Wick is same thing.

[@Jesslynn_Tjoe777]

@Misc_Identity yea. since Merovingian represent "hades" because marry persephone. In Classical Greek mythology, ruler of the Fields of Asphodel were a realm much resembling Limbo is hades.

[@aaronhogan2371]

Correct

[@lpg12338]

Interesting... 🤔

[@TylerGrennell-pu8xv]

its honestly just one thing. Neo code and programs inherited are not taking priority inside the unique code the train conductor used to make the Train Station "Limbo" domain. Being that its a outside computer program domain and Neo is a Hybrid Human-Program, the code in his program "DNA" is foreign to that "server"/domain, therefore his code not being linked to the matrix domain code, he is essential just a purposeless program in that domain, meaning his code can never evolve from nor take priority in the domain code he has no link or synchronization with. It's a computer program, so just use computer programming to explain the computer programming....................

Lets appreciate how Bruce Spence became part of so many fandoms. Mad Max, Matrix, Narnia, Star Wars and a lot more

[@brunobarros5395]

this single scene, the conversation and performance of the trainmen was splendid🎉

[@alej1dp]

I always thought the trainman was the ferryman from greek mythology Charon. If you know greek mythology, Charon was known to have great strength although he was depicted as an old man. He was also known to have great speed.

[@NFSCfan]

If the train man was being honest when he said he'd seen Zion fall before, than is consistent with the theory that Zion is, itself, in another layer of the Matrix.

[@TomHuckACAB]

"The Loyal Opposition"

[@t.kersten7695]

since the Movie Theorists made a video about that idea some years ago i just can´t get that idea about "the real world" just being part of the Matrix out of my head.

[@p0rt1337]

No he just had monitors

[@Kemachris]

@@t.kersten7695 That's confirmed in the movies tho? i don't see how that requires any speculation..

[@vincentwilliams2314]

Zion is not another layer of the matrix . It’s the real world . Zion is just another way to control human populations since not everyone will accept the matrix programming

[@WayOfHaQodesh]

Now see, they could make a whole movie just based on these theories and the background wars between programs, architects etc.

[@SoSikWitIt]

The whole series was based on a book someone else wrote they have no original ideas u seent he new movie lol those 2 transformers dont need to make anything else

[@uncommonsense7399]

@@SoSikWitItlol

[@RhexJ.Albright]

I absolutely love the constant reuploads today F**k WB 👏 keep the fight goin

[@tubes-lut]

THE GYRO-COPTER PILOT!!

[@streemd]

And the Mouth of Sauron. He’s had a great career!

[@seanspartan2023]

I always thought Mobile Ave represented Neo in a non-hardwired area of their network, outside the Marrix. His mind is still connected (keeping his body alive), but it's like he's a cell phone in roaming mode.

[@Akiba.VibesArt]

Did you notice how the Merovingian started to look like the train man in resurrections.

[@xyoungdipsetx]

We don’t talk about that shit movie.

[@jashardwallington]

​@xyoungdipsetx no it wasn't 😂

[@Chrisratata]

​@@xyoungdipsetx we definitely do talk about it. Despite it's quite flawed execution, there's some great ideas and canon fodder in that film

[@KryptoKnightly]

​@@xyoungdipsetxyeah I didn't care for it myself, some cool action scenes but the story and over execution of the characters didn't leave them memorable.

[@Jonothodor]

@@jashardwallington tf you mean? It was the biggest pile of garbage to come out of this century

[@JH-ks9oi]

WB has nothing better to do..??

[@w2ed]

Am I the only one annoyed by the bullshit caused by Warner Bros. getting bug up their ass and copyright-claiming bullshit? It's a little annoying re-covering topics already explored as it's taking away from you doing new work... :(

[@arthurfrayn7619]

Especially given how such analysis is textbook fair use and they have no competing product. They should see it as leading to possible DVD/streaming sales. This channel has def made me break out my copy a few times.

[@Chrisratata]

It is what it is. I'm down to reconsider the same topics

[@damonadams9640]

Great idea M.E.

[@hermitcard4494]

Imagine a mix between Mr.Robot and Matrix. Less superficial spectacle fighting (but some) and more thriller, scifi psychological horror, with some 1984 and others dystopian works.

[@antonharmacinski276]

It sucks that you keep getting copy strikes but I'm enjoying revisiting these subjects so I can't complain too much.

[@Flickvids100]

Dear WB, this channel is publicity for your product. Don't be stupid. Hugs, everybody.

[@iralas]

Hey. Do a video about how the Nebuchadnezzar sat right under the fun slide at the bottom of the power plant. And why neo wasn’t recycled into food for the others.. and why was that slide there at all?

[@coonylegends6812]

man! I love all this information, I'm enjoying it!

[@bond12]

Matrix Explained - You should probably put a disclaimer on your videos, stating that the videos and pictures don't belong to you and that your videos are for educational and entertainment purposes. Hopefully this will Stop The CopyRight Claims....

[@richturteil2]

OGs know this is a reupload

[@Karnage007]

Good on Ya, Stick it to em

[@ets2atstruckermartin527]

That means the matrix can be entered without encountert on the energysouce through the trainman

[@kosmicspawn]

If the train man and the meavengine was replaced, by the architect and the Oracle but were still in the matrix as exiled programs with vast amount of power or abilities, to me it leaves the question of, who created the architect and the Oracle in the first place to replace them with inside or outside the matrix?

[@Jesslynn_Tjoe777]

obviously Deus ex Machina a.k.a God of Machine

[@kosmicspawn]

@@Jesslynn_Tjoe777 yeah but did it not have a deal with neo because it had a problem with the programs in the first place like agent smith?

[@CurCam713]

@@Jesslynn_Tjoe777 But why would Deus ex Machina let them run amuck in and out of the simulation unless they also serve a purpose?

[@t.kersten7695]

maybe the first (and now exiled) programs where orginally created by the humans but than occupied by the machines. but the machines deemed them too dangerous because these programs where backdoors into the programming; a way for good IT-personnel to invade and sabotage the Matrix. but the machines where not able to destroy all of these programs so they just replaced them with their own (a bit less creative and therefor inferior) programs, making the OG ones into outcasts.

[@AGreen-ug9oi]

But who is responsible for upgrades to the programs. Who/what changed the Architect from the Trainman, the Oracle from the Merovingian, etc. I’d really be interested in a story about that… 20 years later…

[@Chrisratata]

Put simply, it's probably Deus Ex Machina...a grand algorithm constantly trying to optimize based on learned lessons

[@matthew90276]

It would explain how he was able to create his own reality separate from Matrix. I guess he had a deal with the “higher ups” or the successor Architect allowing him to exist elsewhere and at the same time be of use. The Architect from the first three movies would have known of his existence but as he kept to himself left him be.

[@hermitcard4494]

Probably due to his experience in previous Matrix he had a role in the new Matrix the movie is in. If he hadn't a new role, purpose, he would have been erased.

[@chloemarietaylor4036]

Isn't the train-man just a firewall? He controls traffic between the matrix and the external world/network. He is his own separate software and hardware and so is not bound to the rules of the Matrix or Neo. Neo basically gets stuck in a sandbox buffer (buffer/trains]. My theory as a computer scientist. The series is based entirely on the parallels between computer systems and society.

[@Obertray]

M.E. is going to get a visit from W.B. agents in dark suits. M.E. should go rogue and start using A.I. to make short films based on these basic concepts, just without using any of the words or names that W.B. could use against them legally. These stories would be understood by us.

[@Mevlinous]

If the train man was a watcher, he could be the watcher of Hindu neo advaita, also called the sakshi. The watcher is essentially who we really are, underneath our personality, mind and bodily construct. The architect resembles the “controller” or “ishvara”, basically that which assembles our perceptions

[@LevitatingCups]

i remember 2 things from matrix reloaded; monica belluccis cleavage and that chateau since it was in half life mod the specialists

[@deanjacobs6693]

Perhaps in an alternative history? We know that colonel Saunders was the literal architect of all the other matrix versions

[@jonjojr]

The Trainman as an old Architect? I don't think so. You have to understand how software programs are built to understand how the Trainman operates. The Trainman is a backdoor program designed to bypass normal operations(exploits). This means that the Trainman can create its own domain only outside of the normal source code yet able to still use legacy code to connect to the Matrix because the Trainman is in fact part of a program designed by the Architect that may no longer be in use as a kind of utility program to test Matrix operations. The Merovingian probably hacked the Trainman for his own use. The food provided by the Merovingian is just an exploit code that provides a trojan horse exploit into the program he wants to hack, allowing the Trainman to transport this program through its backdoor. I am pretty sure that one of the requirements for all of these programs that want or are transported is to eat something from the Merovingian. Merovingian is much simpler than just a cause an effect program. He is what we can see as exclusive or (XOR) gate where the program select a cause, and he already knows the effect because he designed that gate but you can only pick one. Why he is so powerful? its even simpler, because he is bound by the rule of logic and he designed the gates so he knows where they end up. The Trainman is his way of bypassing those gates. also Sarif is a firewall program, nothing more. The Oracle probably programmed him to only allow a few "ports" to be open for her to interact with and in order to allow any data through like Neo, you would need a gateway and a key which you can interpret those as just an endpoint and token that only the key maker can produce. Exile programs is just source code that are no longer compatible with the current version of the Matrix, but because they still serve a purpose with legacy programs they don't return to source for clean up or upgrade.

[@olho_X]

Each anomaly reboots / runs Zion (i.e. Councillor Hamann) ; then vies for to become the next architect :)( , becomes a suit, or exile.

[@TylerGrennell-pu8xv]

42 seconds in and sorry but idk what you will say after 0:42. all ill simply say is that the train station is by code and by design the domain of the train man. Being the designer and ruler of the domain, he would have his own code for that domain therefore ANY AND ALL things within that domain are inferior because their code is not of his and when you put a program into a different coded domain the transferred code is the weakest in the domain because it code is not based off of the domains code, therefore the domain code will always take priority. I only completed 1 year of C++ computer programming and language with an A+ back when A+ still existed in Highschool 2011

[@jaymod9111]

Isn't the canon that the real world outside of the Matrix is actually just another simulation? The Architect himself needs the anomaly to update/upgrade the Matrix. But this raises the question: why would he 'respawn' Neo in Mobile Ave instead of somewhere within the Matrix itself? By the way: This could also explain how Neo was able to control the Sentinels (in the real world). I believe this channel has already covered this

[@Kinkedup]

All Smiles Family 😊

[@MahazonaTiN]

They should hire you to write up a tv series on this franchise

[@scalvarese1]

If an unplugged Agent Smith, entered Mobile Ave, could he copy the Train Man?

[@p0rt1337]

Yes. He can copy everything connected. He would be everyone in the matrix and mobile ave and the real world (bane)

[@513hook513]

Well he was able to copy the architect and oracle. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to. Plus we know he can travel to the real world so he has to pass through the limbo or whatever

[@Reawer]

I miss the old background music

[@Darren777Au]

Or is the Trainman (Architect) actually the boss of the Merovingian (Oracle)? You can actually run windows on a Mac and vice versa without problems, if you know how? 😉

[@Navarre-i1j]

Could the Trainman be a previous edition of the One? Able to write his own code, infinitely more experienced than Neo, trying to build up his own army of sympathetic programs that aren't 'evil', pissed off when he sees the next iteration of himself (Neo) making the same mistakes, repeating the pattern?

[@Donagh1979]

So this is why Matrix resurrection is bad ? because Neo and Trinity are exiles from a previous version of the Matrix where they were cool. Revolutions tried to warn us. We didn't listen. Also explains why Neo can't fight in resurrection because he's made up old code. Like when you put an old PC game into a modern PC. Maybe the train man is Neo. It would explain the hair in resurrections. John Wick's world is Neo's construct. That's why old code Morpheus says "let's get this man some guns"

[@writerthntswriter4984]

That, and the 4th movie was basically like the gremlins 2 movie. Something the writers never wanted to do, never planned to do, but corporate overlords demanded they do anyway. So they made it as annoying and disappointing as possible.

[@booqueefious2230]

​@writerthntswriter4984 but Gremlins 2 is so much fun

[@bentontramell]

By this logic, the simulation that Morpheus uses to train Neo would have Architect level coding that allows for rule bending that matches the Matrix exactly. Thats OP programming.

[@anubusx]

The Trainman is the Rail Warrior.

[@stampedetrail2003]

So movie clips are copyright struck, but an AI version of the same scene is okay. The Architect would laugh.

[@Kimberly.390]

I always thought that Neo using his powers in the "real world" meant that the real world was just another layer of the Matrix made for those who don't follow the rules of the Matrix, it gives them the illusion of control and resistance

[@TuckyBluePGH]

Ya’ll keep forgetting about DEUS! Nobody is creating shit without DEUS. He IS the Collective Consciousness that runs the whole damn thing😂

[@Mr._Infamous]

They*

[@TheIrishRushin]

​@@Mr._Infamous Them*

[@Mr._Infamous]

@@TheIrishRushin fair enough 👌

[@timrose9826]

Nah that’s Bruce Spence man…. 😎

[@JuanPabloRojasW]

So.. were they written in C# or directly in assembler and by whom!

[@ezpzfakie]

i personally think matrix as a show wouldve been very good

[@cuerex8580]

It's like if all archetypes come to life once you wanna become the one

[@victorcd9653]

Good theory

[@user-fy7ru4ii1i]

0:50 - A ship came by to rescue Morpheus and his crew, after the nebuchadnezzar blew up. Didn't this crew admit to launching an EMP to stop the sentinels? So it wasn't actually NEO who stopped them?

[@Caricanalisis]

Train man kinda looks like Mystery the pickup artist

[@kobusvanstaden3388]

Now the next logical question will be; What happens if the Trainman had to take on Neo inside the Matrix?

[@_maze_4733]

Badass!

[@johnakoval7527]

Who came here for the free popcorn? 🙋🏽‍♂️🎉

[@AarayKyramud]

I agree with this theory.

[@ernegarc]

Intersting one! So the Trainman, with his conspicuous teeth and timeliness obsession is, of course, Alice in Wonderland's White Rabbit. In Revolutions he's the most important bouncer. I suppose that all came to pieces, as Merv's clothes, when they shot their complement The Keymaker ('There's always another way'). And so he might not be relevant because now everyone is an artist in Zucker^%%^%'s face%$%$%$, back then when there were barriers OGGGIGINALITY MAATTTTEEERRRED. 🧐

[@AAA-y1j4p]

Can you do a video about the matrix vs hinduism and gnostism and agent smith or other programs vs the nagas snake people ?

[@tiffanym1108]

This!!!

[@tubes-lut]

There was a video on gnosticism

[@richardyamato]

Spinoff please

[@marktravis4381]

You can run a windows program on a Mac you need virtual machine

[@reatcas]

Who made the architect?

[@VannApragal]

If he was the first architect, how did he forget to shower, brush his teeth, comb his hair and launder his clothes?

[@dreadnegus]

Mobil = Limbo. Mobil Ave = Limbo Ave.

[@Kalsarikannit-Budapestissa]

Than in Matrix 5 who will be the thrift shop dressed homeless?

[@Freenure]

Source: It was revealed to me in a dream.

[@FinalManaTrigger]

Nah, the Architect was responsible for the first version of the Matrix, he said so himself.

[@anthonyturkey2064]

He didn't actually say he saw anything though . Still a good video thanks

[@bottleforty1]

So, the road warrior planeman is the matrix trainman.🤔

[@catnium]

what if raain man can just look through the robots eyes and see everything while still being in the matrix that seems a lot more realistic for an ex control program to be doing

[@mindingmyblackbusiness]

It seems as though having extreme power within the matrix and losing it will drive one mad. Every character that was once a Boss is now homeless looking.

[@N0P3Sugar]

He acts more like the ferry man from the underworld i don't think he is capable of anything beyond his programmed domain that's why Neo is powerless against him in Mobil Ave.

[@kristophmarauder7557]

One of my favourite theories. Perhaps they were responsible for the first and second matrix (heaven and hell) and were fired as a result

[@michaelkneringer3194]

No, Trainman was just a first in a long line of obstacles.

[@batmanforever_]

i think the Frenchman was the previous one and the trainman was before him.

[@trevorevans3956]

In Greek mythology Zeus and Helios manifested them self's in to Bulls and even Humans. Could the Trainman be the Architect?

[@barongerhardt]

No, I don't believe the writers thought that deep about the history of that character or that complete of a history in their world building.

[@mohamadrezazanoosi9995]

Do you want a good story?! Here it is: Neo is the next architect! And that is why Trinity is the next Oracle!

[@OmniMonitor]

Or, he is an AI that can build and run a matrix like simulation. Since he writes the rules of the simulation, he can seem all powerful inside of it. There is no purpose for these alternative simulations. No, official purpose at least. It seems very clear. Your creative explanation seams more convoluted than it needs to be.

[@everythingissogreen6748]

Isn't the Architect the big baby face thing?

[@marksandor2830]

Round and round we go, questions and answers….the closer we look the farther away it all seems. But it can be fun playing this game.

[@ededdynedd]

Neo jus needs bootcamp to boot up is Neo-ness.

[@leod7454]

Your presumption makes no sense based upon the statements made by the architect in the first Matrix.

[@ObsidianMonarch]

This video is barely over 8 minutes, but one minute and 46 seconds in, I was bombarded with not one, but two insulting ads. Kid you have no backbone...

[@hichaelhyers]

DONT SPOIL THINGS IN THUMBNAILS

[@merlinwizard1000]

1st, 24 September 2024

[@sidvicious332]

Actually, I was here first, I just didn't say anything cos I'm cool like that.

[@casinodelonge]

Haven't a clue, sorry.

[@t.kersten7695]

the train man, the architect and even the oracle... the Matrix is full of those pretty useless side characters with little to no pupose and effect. until today i can´t really see any purpose in the existence of the architect. it´s just a programm who appears mighty by name but yet so useless. the train man and the guy with the keys where just one shots to make the plot happen somehow. and the oracle is just an old lady with stupid lines and esoteric mumbo jumbo who has no power and no influence but all people dance around her like the golden cow and pretend as if any of her words made any sense or had any influence. i bet, apart from Morpheus nobody really believed in anything that old lady had to say.

[@simonbullows]

I thought this was obvious. Guess you have to account for Americans

[@Svensk7119]

"Merovingian" is mispronounced in the movies. As is "Zion". Pronounce the latter as you would "lion", other than the opening consonant. Merovingian, while the movie's pronunciation is understandable, it is inexpert. "Meronvinyen". "gi" blurred to together becomes "y", in certain cases.

[@sonisudhanshu85]

Ye har video mein WB ke Copyright ka jhootha bahana banana band kar de, sab jaante hain tere paas naya content nahi hai isliye tu purana upload karna chahta hai, lekin phir log gaali denge to bachne ke liye WB Copyright ka bahana bana deta hai

[@alrightythen214]

Dumbest theory you have come up with yet.

[@sithiousswgoh1319]

The train man was not the first architect.

[@nucleusv]

это тапко епок это Распутин и одновременно Сашка из ангарского училища которой курил на задворках и говорил что в него входят тольок полезные вещества ?

[@nucleusv]

и прикус у него как у пеньки

[@angelatorres8576]