THE TRASH TASTE TOURNAMENT ARC | Trash Taste

[@realkingofantarctica]

This episode was actually first planned over two years ago. They just had to put it on hold until Garnt watched Full Metal Alchemist.

[@kingdoom5022]

FMAB is amazing , it didn't get no.1 for long time for nothing

[@gryphon4150]

@@kingdoom5022 I mean, I watched it. Thought it was alright. A good 8/10. Don't understand why people rate it so highly though.

[@nanoff815]

​@@gryphon4150The manga is better. Actually though. The manga has great pacing. The weakest part of Brotherhood, the first 13ish episodes are way better and expanded in the manga.

[@avaneesh3118]

​@@nanoff815the manga is trash

[@gsorestes9933]

@@gryphon4150 8/10 is a great score though, alright is more like a 6

[@ManuelMejia15]

Connor's face while Joey and Garnt are arguing about Bocchi the Rock is killing me 😂

[@Saz103]

Literally he is the meme,”If I speak I am in big trouble”, lmao

[@atharvjadhav445]

Same as joey while Connor and grant arguing about food

[@aestheticdogg613]

"They hated him(Joey) for telling the truth"

[@Vladrafael14]

he's saying to himself this "Could anyone kill me right now"

[@bobjones2959]

Literally 😐

[@kameo4174]

The way Gigguk talks about anime, i swear he could sell me an empty box.

[@HANIMEME]

thats why hes the goated anituber, might not be as funny as demolition D or Scamboli but he puts he heart into it (and doesn't overdo it like John)

[@ryana5435]

⁠@@HANIMEME john? You mean super eyepatch wolf?

[@ryana5435]

But Garnt is so bad at live arguing. He didn’t say the point that why he think BtR is better than K-ON is BtR actually showed a lot of realistic part of band and performance and practices other than drinking tea all the time but good at various songs

[@DrJones0801]

@@ryana5435 I mean he wasn't comfortable recording without a script until a few years ago, and the man has been on youtube almost since the beginning, so I think he gets a pass.

[@subtoserratemc]

​@@ryana5435It is much more difficult to argue abt an anime with THE anime man then one might think,plus during a live argument it is significantly more difficult to think of points and i think he did pretty well defending his ideology of what he thinks BTR is abt as presenting that is much more important than to say, convince someone into watching a show that they dislike

[@Ked676]

Can’t believe Joey hates Jujutsu Kaisen so much that he let it pass round one so he can hate on it more. lol

[@charapresscott7750]

I mean it's so poorly fuckin written so

[@tvryx9229]

@@charapresscott7750 no its not lmao

[@charapresscott7750]

@@tvryx9229 I've seen enough asspulls to make me not want to read the rest.

[@fukunaga-kane]

@@tvryx9229 It is. People praise the writing like it's Berserk when in truth it couldn't even top Demon Slayer's writing. At least Demon Slayer makes you care for the characters before killing them, and the show ends where it needs to without stretching it with another Sukuna asspull.

[@pantelismat4352]

​@@charapresscott7750explain to me where is the poor writing and the asspulls. Bet you haven't even watched the show properly

[@stealthy25_]

In one episode Connor pulls 2 top tier out of context lines: "Terrorism is based" "You know what's cooler? Anime Hitler."

[@wakads921]

they are freedom fighters

[@ginger0403]

​@@wakads921or in words of the government "terrorists"

[@dontshootmex5588]

​@@wakads921That was a great video game

[@Aco2Draco]

timestamp?

[@antoninperron1307]

@@Aco2Draco 1:10:13 you're welcome

[@DiiaBloodyRain]

Trash Taste then: "We hate tournament arcs!" Trash Taste now: "We have a tournament arc!"

[@IlloyedKater]

The true first trash taste tournament arc was the chess tournament.

[@camden2051]

Their first special was a tournament arc

[@nightsky2165]

Garnt loves tournament arcs

[@thomasandrewclifford]

Garnt is infamously a tournament arc stan.

[@lucienolongerhuman8298]

Garnt is tournament arc biggest fan

[@MikeyDLuffy]

Connor being the ultimate HxH enjoyer just puts a smile to my face. He was fighting the good fight

[@stevenchen9852]

I mean I literally fell asleep watching Gurren lagann. Tf is about that show that makes it good. I

[@Plunkcown]

@@stevenchen9852 skill issue

[@yongisverycool]

yea its definitely a little slow and feels fillery at first but the moments later on r so well crafted and its just peak motivation imo

[@koks49045]

I like gurren lagann but vs HxH there is not contest. There is basicly 1 main thing goin on in TTG when it comes to themesL, its only 27 and some of them feel like filler where as HxH has so many different arcs and they all insane, it's obvious number 1 show ever. Creating something like HxH is way harder than TTGL

[@MSCSage]

there is no way where HxH is not in the final against Vinland, i cant believe they think that TTGL is the better show. HxH has some of thie highest peaks in all of Anime

[@synthiandrakon]

I think one thing that immediately sets fmab from other shounen is that it's complete. That feels so fucking rare, it doesn't have a million episodes, it's not ongoing, it's just a show you can sit down and watch which is like unbelievably rare

[@Asic229]

To me the only thing keeping it from being literally perfect is that it tries to hard to stay a shonen instead of letting itself dig into seinen territory. Every time the story covers a really dark topic, it feels the need to inject humor which feels out of place. But I think the story in a vacuum is absolutely perfect.

[@theneekofficial8829]

@@Asic229 honestly i feel like that fits though, like irl, would you not make jokes to remove the seriousness out of a situation to make it easier to deal with? ik i do it with my friends when we've all struggled with *those* kind of self 💀 thoughts and we all joke about it because it makes it easier to deal with

[@Asic229]

@theneekofficial8829 I mean my favorite series are all seinens, like berserk, monster, and mudoku magica, so I'm probably just not the target audience. But no, I love when media dips into extremely dark topics, and it feels out of place when a series capable of a dark tone forces unrealistic character interactions into super serious situations.

[@ToonGohan]

joey tries to clear his name on jjk and immediately pisses off bocchi fans 😂

[@AdindaPangeran-qd8jo]

Calling bocchi song's mid just made him the enemies of bocchi fans

[@ayss2611]

He made enemies out of both of the fanbase lmao

[@lupolinar]

Fans are stupid

[@KaitoBravo]

Joey: I'm a music connoisseur Also Joey: Bocchi soundtrack is mid The audacity

[@bochibochi9990]

It's fine. They are too socially anxious to go after him

[@WiggyJiggyJed]

"it's just a K-On clone" Joey when a show is about a band

[@machintosh3008]

By that logic K-On is a BECK clone. And BECK is just a Nirvana clone. And Nirvana is just a every other fucking band that ever existed clone.

[@kuro._aert]

the fact that he's the most in touch with music

[@Animedia21]

I think Joey did Bocchi dirty when he said the music was mid 😢.

[@kiwoxgen9929]

He has solid argument 😏 As a person involved a lot in music Compared to majority of bocchi fans that spoiled by anisong 24/7 🏃

[@ReleaseZeKrakken]

Joey just has really bad taste. Bocchi music is way better than K-On.

[@AllEyezSee]

25:29 "the reason WHY is cause Bochhi can’t uhh do Domain Expansion." 😂😂😂

[@hemsey9051]

So my main takeaway is that every bad decision on this tierlist is all thanks to Joey.

[@OneIcyBoy]

Correct. Downplaying JJK, hating Bocchi, and letting Made in Abyss make it so far made me genuinely upset

[@synergy8879]

made in abyss getting this far is a travesty, it’s below subpar 😂

[@domme6437]

​@@OneIcyBoyWhat? JJK is definitely not a great show for everyone. Made in abyss is way better overall

[@V.F.D.DaleSalvador]

Joey "I love the drunk bassist" Mudan: Shows Ryo

[@Red-mg4ro]

Give it a few years.

[@Rust1809]

​@@Red-mg4ro That's depressing 🙂

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

@@V.F.D.DaleSalvador Mudan has excellent taste

[@Sharkofspace]

He probably just googled "Bocchi the Rock bassist" and put the first result on screen.

[@daisybrain9423]

also played the wrong soundtrack from code geass

[@sean1000-7]

Guys, I think Joey hates Jujutsu Kaisen.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

I don't think he hated it until the fanbase got on him for saying it was ok

[@hankocpharung1383]

I mean it’s just your average shonen. It’s hype but it’s tiring. It’s good, it’s not the greatest.

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

@@hankocpharung1383Gege has been making a super different and well written shounen for the longest time, but you guys read “shounen” and think it’s basic

[@mohammedraihaaan2251]

@@hankocpharung1383 you can anything abt jujutsu kaisen but tiring lmao , yeah it is dumb shonen but its so goddamn entertaining

[@Kuch1to]

Joey : I think jujutsu kaisen is fine but not amazing jjk fans : omg Joey hates jjk !!

[@a_culturedman8281]

Joey saying Bocchi's sound track is ass made me feel that the name of the podcast fit really well for the first time in a while.

[@alz397]

He said mid lol he didn’t say they were ass

[@InklusiveLabs]

20:25 lmao why is connor staring at the screen like that😂😂

[@shotviii]

cant wait for them to say the most batshit insane takes humanly possible

[@newbie4789]

Oh yeah, "Bocchi the rock has shit Soundtrack" ~ Joey ☠️

[@kirtapk95]

Yeah....sometimes i really do feel like "are these guys anime-snobs or am i just delusional" with their takes...

[@MNTNHMESMO]

"No one has anxiety like that" -TheMangaLad.

[@iPancake3]

@@kirtapk95 Garnt is the only one who really tries to understand the stories and give proper criticism. Connor and Joey just have opinions.

[@saivamshiatukuri151]

​@@newbie4789it doesnt have shit soundtrack but K-on is definitely better. The only joey take I agree instead of gigguk

[@DouggieDaDucker]

Garnt: "You've seen musicians who are stage frightened at first but then shred it up on stage!" Joey immediately forgets Garnt's battle of the bands story Joey: "Nah"

[@elmatador2139]

That's my only problem with Joey's criticisms of Bocchi. Half his criticisms are that this thing that happens in Bocchi would never happen in real life when it happens all the time in real life. He's allowed to dislike or hate the show but I would rather he didn't discredit that people are different from him and have different experiences than him. My social anxiety has always affected me and I relate to pretty much everything in the show to a lesser extent, having said that I recognise my social anxiety has never been that bad compared to some others. so if my 'not that bad anxiety' can mostly relate to Bocchi, then someone whose anxiety is that bad would be as bad as Bocchi.

[@mikeyman302]

It’s also funny that he brings up Carlos Santana. One of his most famous and breakout performances was at Woodstock when he wasn’t even suppose to play. He took acid since he was told he wasn’t going to play but then the person who was playing backed out. He then had to get on stage tripping and incredibly nervous. He went up on stage and killed it, the rest is history

[@magic_cfw]

@@elmatador2139 tbf, joey in general is dismissive of experiences outside his own.

[@dylives7667]

Joey has yet to hit 30 and is already becoming senile 💀

[@ettoreozzy9932]

The takes "You expect me to believe that shit would actually happen though? and "K-ON is the development of all the characters coming together after their differences and trying to create a band. Is exactly the same. Except K-ON the characters aren't insufferable like Bocchi are" I really don't understand Joey at all. I'm in the same boat as Garnt here where to me K-ON didn't do it and Bocchi is the K-ON done right. Joey can dislike Bocchi but I can't understand how he likes K-ON and argues theses things on Bocchi. Characters in K-ON don't have differences they have to overcome in order to create a band, they are just brought to the club and just eat sweets and drink tea. They do that so much to the point where I wonder when they practice to even be able to perform. Specially when Yui is kinda just forced into it when she didn't even played an instrument. And characters not being insufferable I don't get it since K-ON has Yui, which calling her an air head is a complement since her head has vacuum of space on it. And worse she infects other characters with her lack of brain cells. "that would never happen" yeah Joey because people using the money from sold guitars to use for their music club would CLEARLY mean to use the money to buy a turtle as a kouhai and a new member of the club. Yes that happens... Like do you even remember K-ON??? The turtle thing made me completely drop the second season of K-ON since that reached my limited specially since the teacher ended being okay with it, not only that all the other members needed to approve such an a idea that Yui proposed. Sure Bocchi is the embodiment of all social anxiety and problems but we at least see improvement on it and the animation used to express such a thing is done in a unique and funny way.

[@leonmayne797]

‘Do I want adrenaline or depression.’ Attack on Titan: ‘I got you covered.’

[@benbroomhead7083]

I physically clapped when grant came back from his toilet break and chose one piece lmao

[@Cpach27]

Garnts explanation at 58:00 about Rudy reminds me of a MHA discusion that was had on Reddit. It was about how alot of people just can not forgive Endeavor despite him trying his best to fix his broken family that he caused. BUT people can easily forgive a character like Vegeta who was a straight up villian who's done awful stuff like destroy civilizations, blow up planets, kill innocent people, make stupid choices that led to bigger problems and had a hand in the death of the z fighters. Kinda like what Garnt said. Endeavors situation is just too real and hits a little too close to people so people find it so much harder to forgive him.

[@crocoboi7936]

It’s such a fascinating concept in stories for example itachi is a WIDELY beloved character in Naruto even though he committed genocide and heavily worsened his brothers life. You would think he would be hated but because it’s not a commonly relatable situation no one bats an eye.

[@c4ptaintuttle276]

I can't say anything about MHA But the reason I dislike the character of Rudi is that he is a 30 year old who get reborn and decides to become a pedophile. Thorfinn is a kid that grows up in war and hate, you can understand why he acts like that.

[@edward-34salamanca]

​@@c4ptaintuttle276 Rudeus doesn't decide to become a pedophile after he's reborn, he is a pedophile way before that in his previous life. After being bullied at school he shuts himself up into his room and becomes a hikikomori (a real issue in Japan where people can't socialise and end up as a human parasite). He spends decades coping with life using the internet, just like many people that watch anime today he copes using fantasy. As a result of this, his mental state is completely fucked and he is a complete bum of a human being. That is the setup for the character Rudeus. Does somebody like this deserve to live a happy life and redeem themself? Does he deserve a real place In the world? Just because he's a bad human does he deserve to die alone with no friends? Mushoku tensei is a redemption of the lowest of low human being into a man that protects, loves and provides for his family and makes a meaningful difference to the world. People that hate this anime are just projecting their own shortcomings onto rudeus, pointing out his flaws. But they are hypocrites since they also likely spend their real life coping with media and games. They are projecting their own issues with imperfection onto those around them. You are not perfect, nobody is perfect so don't judge others based on your ideals. These are the core ideas of Mushoku Tensei.

[@c4ptaintuttle276]

@@edward-34salamanca I can't remember that it was ever showed in the past that he was a pedophile. It was just suddenly after he was reincarnated , also he had a lot of time to reflect in a pretty decent environment. But after 13 years of time to think and 32 years of life experience before and he still didn't change and was a pedophile. Also the way minor girls are just sexually displayed for cheap Fan service is awful. I really liked the first season of mushuko tensei. Even with the problems I mentioned before.

[@victory1014]

@@edward-34salamanca My issue with the show comes down to presentation. Idk if this make sense, but the show treats his behavior as too normal. Like it lets him be a creep and kinda rewards it.

[@rotomRASENGAN]

05:51 I nominate “Terrorism is based” for “Best Out of Context Clip” for next year’s Trash Taste Awardw.

[@knaditya8228]

And right next to it, “do you know what’s better terrorism with friends “

[@toyaashizawamusic]

We also need. Let’s colonize -cdawg

[@royalfun1031]

So One Piece

[@mwalter98]

nelson mandela was on us list of terrorists, overall most progressive figures were viewd as terrorists by us gov

[@yakitatefreak]

Connor: "They're terrorists... They call themselves Freedom Fighters" Britain in 1776: *Calls the 13 colonies "Terrorists"* Americans in the 1770's: *You've activated my patriotism. We're fighting against the tyranny of King George III*

[@mordor2594]

You either Die a hero or live long enough to be the villain. Trash Taste: Tournament Arc!

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

They actually tryna turn this into an Anime podcast these last few months.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Some of the takes are so bad I wish they went back

[@SeargentChouChou]

@@rumplstiltztinkersteinIs the podcast reflecting the name yet in your opinion?

[@N.I.C21]

they always talk about anime or at least japan related stuff. idk why they pretend its not an anime podcast

[@kook3585]

​@@rumplstiltztinkerstein i mean, its in the name 😂

[@malclmhexed5978]

@@SeargentChouChouit’s trash taste not trash TAKES

[@hoby99]

The boys have uploaded, time to wash the dishes

[@c0ffeelatt3]

lol

[@Theywantthedro]

Saaaame

[@The100ss]

Whoa- Someone does the same exact thing as me when a new episode comes out-

[@speedwagon6-e1b]

Washing dishes feel too short now

[@aliffaiman614]

How many dishes that u have to wash for the span of 2 hours lol?

[@artaum5635]

Nah, Joey has to be imprisoned for that Bocchi take, that shit was outrageous

[@jamesgats900]

this entire bracket is "you're strong, I am just stronger"

[@Amaling]

Joey when anime protagonists are exaggerated extroverts to the point of absurdity: 😴 Joey when anime protagonists are exaggerated introverts to the point of absurdity: 😡 🤬

[@SeargentChouChou]

Dude just wants some good and normal characters.

[@Amaling]

@@SeargentChouChouTTGL got second place and he would’ve had one piece win it all what are you on about lol

[@valhallakombi7239]

@@SeargentChouChou The comment you are replying to is literally comparing the hyper exaggeration of Gurren Lagann to Bocchi. Kamina is NOT "good and normal". He is same level of exaggeration in the extrovert scale to Bocchi in the introvert scale

[@SeargentChouChou]

@@Amaling like I said normal and good lol

[@oomay1925]

@@Amaling unless it's dark and deep (edgy)

[@salman6254]

Why doesn’t Connor just watch Welcome to the NHK? That’s like exactly what he wants Mushoku tensei to be. No Isekai, just a terrible shut-in trying to become a real person.

[@agustinbaigorria7032]

NHK is so good

[@Saturnius]

Yeah. A huge part of why Mushoku ended up being an isekai is because the author wanted to meet where a lot of the flawed were. The boom in isekai escapism was based on the central premise that they would be based chads if only they had the chance to be reincarnated into another world, and Mushoku tensei just straight up shows how, no, you'd still be the way you are but you have a chance to better by doing the same things that you can do in our own world here and now. This point flies over the heads of people like it's a stealth bomber.

[@OnchiBon]

To me it feels like such a non-argument to ask why it has to be in isekai form if the story is about a person bettering himself. It's just the packaging of the narrative. It doesn't reduce or subtract from the core narrative in any way and usually it's the people who just have a problem with MT for its more controversial moments who seem to have an issue with it being isekai.

[@gundam42d64]

@@OnchiBon Funny enough Conner has the same issue with Oshi No ko

[@matheusjezini]

Can someone try to explain to me why Welcome to the NHK is so good? It's SO bad, like incredibly frustrating bad. It isn't one guy making the hard decisions to better himself or having the discipline, it's jlthe world giving him second chances CONSTANTLY when he doesn't deserve any with the stupid trope of having a random cute savior girl follow you around because of this random convenient reason we thought of. ​@agustinbaigorria7032

[@paulcatindig2260]

Connor saying that he wants a mushoku tensei but IRL is just welcome to the NHK lmfaoo

[@TheOneTrueErica]

I love how much time and consideration they gave each series, and overall the passion about everything was fun. I'd love to see another tournament featuring other genres, characters, etc.

[@ginchan4836]

Joey really named his clothing company based on his anime opinions

[@ThatsNotGaming]

ooof, ROASTED! Lmao

[@dinkletonne]

we got a funny bocchi fan over here

[@muffledpotat0245]

LMFAO. Great joke

[@aceum609]

HAHAHA!! Excellent piece of comedy right there. Sure showed him!

[@alexeystarkov7504]

Tbh his takes in general, anime ones are just most famous ones lol

[@Ryocniel]

BREAKING NEWS: Joey "The Anime Man" Bizinger has clarified that he does, in fact, NOT hate Jujutsu Kaisen. This is in response to an ongoing dispute between Bizinger and anime Twitter. Our on-site reporter tells us both parties have unanimously agreed to end this conflict once and for a- hold on, apparently Bizinger has made a new comment; stating that he thinks Bocchi The Rock has "mid" music. He is currently being chased off-site with pitchforks. Give him hell, boys! Edit: this is for the funnies, people; not an attack. We like Joey. Go easy on him.

[@granv3000]

I watched k-on and although I enjoyed it I in fact do not remember a single song, actually I remember not liking them that much. Now Bocchi has some bangers

[@CC-mf9le]

underrated comment

[@marcog.verbruggen674]

also, the fact that Joey "doesn't believe anyone has as much anxiety as Bocchi" or that he doesn't believe someone can go from pissing and crying with stage fright to breaking it down like a god once they're in their element, shows that Joey clearly has never talked to someone with anxiety. It took my gf like 3 years to get on a bus without having a hysteria attack. I mean sure it's exaggerated in Bocchi but it's almost like it's anime or something....

[@I.disagree]

I love how Garnt was arguing against the stage-confidence being unrealistic since I 100% experience that effect as well

[@ryana5435]

@@marcog.verbruggen674 Joey is so boyish, he doesn’t have empathy and sympathy

[@katoshikt]

They really showed us a Trash taste

[@SilkSonic-c9z]

Aot should have won Other than that I can only think of vinland or steins gate

[@MohamedMohey-vu7eo]

I never thought the one with the best opinions about anime out of the three of them will be Connor 😂😂

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

Its actually so Based.. bcuz garnt is isekai brain rot.. and Joey is just.. sick

[@eclipse1161]

Joey’s takes on Bocchi will dominate the next “Hottest takes” nominations.

[@newbie4789]

Yeah😂

[@sg-te9pu]

Lmao

[@Ash_Wen-li]

They didn't clarify but if he actually meant "Yorknew wasn't good" that dominates

[@gellal1]

feel like its just for the bait sake lol

[@CM-dx6xu]

Absolutely malevolent take lmao Utter dumpster take from joey 😂

[@300Drizzt]

Connor realizes he said umm immediately 😳, waits, no one notices, pats own face 😂

[@first_senpai1473]

Time stamps?

[@300Drizzt]

⁠@@first_senpai147313:12 to 13:27

[@thatsallitismilesaleapoffaith]

time stamp?

[@300Drizzt]

@@first_senpai1473 13:12 to 13:27

[@300Drizzt]

@@thatsallitismilesaleapoffaith 13:12 to 13:27

[@junol]

I must be missing something, Bocchi is legit good, I'm actually surprised, it had really clever animation, like all the weird 3d shit and claymation, I normally only watch 90s and early 2000s shit, most anime released since like 2010 just blends together but Bocchi stood out, I'm mad

[@junol]

Pretty weird cause I'm almost always in agreement with Joey's taste, this is pretty baffling to me lmao, like who gives af about the fanbse?

[@Chris-ri4jl]

New found respect got Connor. He knows the truth with Hunter x Hunter

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

Really speaks volumes about jjk’s story that Connor, the guy that skips cutscenes and only likes fighting, is the only one that thinks the story is good while Joey and garnt say otherwise lol. I agree with garnt that the gojo past arc is the best arc in jjk cause we actually see well written characters doing something interesting and getting actual good development.

[@titheproven954]

I am always surprised that the Vs. Mahito Arc is overlooked from a story standpoint. The killing the transformed kids and Junpei getting morphed...the hit like a truck for me.

[@PentaHousen]

S2 jjk is such Garbo. Shibuya arc was joke fiesta after they seal Gojo (Mechamaru was also BS on another level). Most fight after that was just for sake of "dumb".

[@rockstar1103]

Shibuya Arc is also well written.

[@Jvm-iq2qe]

@@rockstar1103 shibuya arc would be good if there was more set up for it. As is it feels like if Naruto did the pain arc at the end of of Naruto instead of half way through shippudden.

[@PentaHousen]

@@rockstar1103 shibuya arc writting is so dumb... 90% deaths was skippable and added nothing. We already know Nanami was dead after Mahito arc and waited 1 season for it. Power scalling was so dumb and over the place. Nobara getting beat by no name was such bs and same idiot show up to kill megumin. Like this shit was so stupid. Ending was also such ass pull.

[@pandacrafty]

TTGL: I have to admit mob, you're the best anime of your decade Mob Pyscho: Oh, thank you TTGL: But I ain't from your decade, am I?

[@RobenoidQzap]

Damn lol

[@Dev_712]

Joey's take on Bocchi is probably the worst take I have ever heard in this podcast, and that's saying something lol. It's also funny how he has put Kamina - an unrealistic and exaggerated version of an extrovert on a pedestal but absolutely refuses to acknowledge an exaggerated version of an introvert in Bocchi. You can dislike the show mate, but don't be dismissive of introverts with social anxiety. They do exist irl

[@aizensosuke1243]

Joey when introverts exists "nah! bad plot progression, just make friends"

[@blur2055]

20:26 cracks me when Connor is just staring at the camera while Garnt and Joey fights for Bocchi the Rock and K-on XD

[@LONKULADE]

I feel like I've never seen this angle before haha

[@scanskynero3083]

Connor was like: "I don't care for Bocchi, but these takes are making me nonchalant"

[@Snookers_]

Lol, that bracket was 100% engineered to be controversial. _Almost_ everything pitted against their spiritual counterparts

[@Osaaamaaa]

People like you look for controversy and drama in everything.

[@TheMudkipArmada]

@@Osaaamaaa But he's not wrong though XD

[@AJJ129]

that's show business

[@Sukenus]

@@TheMudkipArmada He is. The only controversial one was Frieren vs FMA, because of the number 1 spot on MAL.

[@samuraijosh1595]

@@Sukenus lol what Gurren lagan vs Mob pyscho and H H vs GUrren seemed pretty heated to me

[@defaultname0]

29:22 Joey casually invalidating people with social anxiety. Feels good man.

[@ARQ_004SP]

Wait I've never had a visceral reaction to the boy's opinions but holy shit joey throwing bocchi and girls band cry under the bus like DAMN BRO GET OUTTA HERE. K-ON CLONES???

[@dankerbooper]

Whoever made Mob and Gurren Lagann face off in the first bracket is evil

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

Nah. that was Jojo's bizarre adventure

[@shafaet1194]

Whoever made Steins;Gate and Attack on Titan face off in the first bracket is evil as well.

[@HaloGT1]

It upset me how they said "Mob is better in every category, but Guren is more hype so it moves on"

[@tristanderamos6455]

@@HaloGT1but I can’t argue is the most the most frustrating I’m not mad tho Gurren Lagann is just built different

[@Malentier]

​@@tristanderamos6455 it drills through the arguments.

[@projectmessiah]

Joeys HxH auction house arc take is gonna go under the radar but thats only one of the most atrocious things he's ever said

[@Christopher._M]

That isn't even an arc.

[@projectmessiah]

@@Christopher._M Apologies for mistyping, although it is a micro arc of sorts I meant to say section

[@LymLevolveon]

@@Christopher._M The Yorknew city arc he meant

[@samxdy5563]

what's even more infuriating is he praised it in his hxh review video...

[@projectmessiah]

@@LymLevolveon No I didn't, Joey wasn't talking about the whole of Yorknew, he just said the part where they go to the auction to obtain Greed Island was. Which is also what I was referring to in the comment.

[@RobenoidQzap]

TTGL going all the way to the finals really put a smile in my face

[@htw.015]

that moment when garnt says "tournament arrrrrrc" literal chills.

[@milten76]

joey be like: i vote for the one thats older

[@SkyflyNB]

He picked made in abyss right at the start

[@undedude4272]

Yall be like: Its new so its better coz people just wanna be unique by liking the old stuffs

[@shsd7579]

unless it comes to anime girls

[@jipke7430]

@@shsd7579 ☠

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

@@SkyflyNBliterally the most L take in anime takes history.. how could anyone

[@onijaanjonu3367]

Joey not liking bocchi because he disbelieves anyone could be that socially awkward feels like a person not liking Koe no Katachi because they refuse to believe anybody can't just listen harder.

[@MNTNHMESMO]

Yeah, it's like ~Your illness is not real. Its literally all in your head, silly.~ Leave it to Joey to come up with majority of the braindead takes

[@waveybooo]

he's true, there simply does not exist a human being that is actually that socially awkward, bocchi is far too exaggerated

[@onijaanjonu3367]

​​​ @waveybooo simple counterpoint: I was. When I was a kid my social anxiety was a living hell. I couldnt talk to people. My voice would tremble even when talking to my own friends. I would literally begin shaking just trying to meet peoples eyes. Every little social indiscretion I made was like torture for me. It would eat me up. To this day I have never any pain equal to the agony I felt then. And with all this and yet still to feel so irrepressibly lonely. I will never wish that hell on anyone. When people dismiss these experiences it feels like a slap in the face.

[@cheesekerper]

@@onijaanjonu3367 yep i completely agree with this. i’d like to add that joey *might* be confused(i’m not sure if he actually is) because of the way anxiety is portrayed through animation for comedic effect and *may* think that, that is how it feels like - as in EXACTLY feel like THAT. i do believe i have social anxiety, it got better, went completely downhill, might be getting better but if you condensed and animated it, it would probably feel like that. bocchi glitching out on the ground is just another way to say she’s shaking - a metaphor. or even the scenes where she’s hiding in a box, it can be interpreted as another way to say she’s super nervous to go up on stage, and when she is on stage she may be trying to hide (like when she performs whilst hiding in the box) or not be seen, she feels uncomfortable seeing all the people looking at her and may not want to be perceived. and honestly i’d rather perform hiding in the box.

[@slvyc]

​​@@waveybooo That's such a bald claim lmao Im worse than bocch Like it doesn't even make sense from a statistical stand point from how many people there are and the amount of massed up disorders that exist. Like bruh, schizophrenia is a thing.

[@miggiepatateatomique]

"Bocchi shouldn't be on this list" they say.... It is easily one of my top 5 most loved anime, I rewatch clips and episodes and ordered the mangas. I don't think I'm a weirdo though... The thing is that I don't simp for Bocchi, I just love the route they took with real-life skits and stupid jokes, the humour was so good!!!

[@damienkillani6121]

Connor talking about how Rudy didn't have to attone for his past life because he got Isekai'd when thats literally one of his biggest regrets in the show rn. I love Connor, but you can't pretend to understand the nuances of a story when you literally dropped it 1 tenth of the way through

[@dunzek943]

Connor can't absorb ideas too easily the way Garnt does, who appreciates the message that any piece of literature is expressing regardless of how it's done. He literally needs Garnt to explain it to him lol

[@Saturnius]

Yeah. This is why I wish the anime didn't cut the convo in S2E23 the way they did. It cut out all of Rudeus's convo with Roxy about what a man who has lost his entire family, who has betrayed them, who now cannot go back to them to apologize or make amends can even do to remedy the situation. I feel like this part of the novel was this explicit because the author knew it had to be to get through some thick skulls and lo and behold when it's cut a lot of people don't get it. Regardless, the anime made a mistake on that particular aspect so I think that particular criticism is more valid than others.

[@johnrpg]

“bocchi is rip off K-On” and I already know what’ll win hottest take at the next awards

[@brodaforlife]

I’m already laughing my ass off and feeling the absolute saltiness from any offended fan from this hot take

[@newbie4789]

"K-On has better music than Bocchi the Rock" "K-On knew what they were doing but BTR didn't " Joey's whole Bocchi the rock conversation is worth it

[@TheFirehands150]

It's okay guys. Joey doesn't understand the themes and messages from K-on either lol

[@kingdoom5022]

I literally don't remember any of the songs in k on except maybe the end , bocchi is much much better music wise lol

[@Daniel-jz9td]

Bocchi music is really good, it is listenable aside from the show.

[@JacksPunchingBag]

This finally settles Joey as just "The Man".

[@Tuetenfussballer]

More like "Maaan" because of his shi takes.

[@makii4772]

The

[@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog]

The Clothing Brand Man

[@newbie4789]

Can we take it to "The old man"? His opinions are clouded by nostalgia

[@adamhercik581]

Nah, he's reasonable.

[@haspberry5728]

This is the only podcast which truly lives up to it's name

[@metactal]

Connor: *looks foward to being a deciding factor* Connor: only gets one of his picks through

[@metalandmagi6486]

Poor Garnt being the only person to understand Bocchi the Rock XD

[@ishaanwankhade4834]

“A non-controversial episode!” Oh lord here we go

[@lexiehua1457]

Then every anime has pdf file content in it

[@mongru]

Girls bad cry as a ‘k-on clone’ is insanity 💀

[@vincentopperman1420]

The boyz low key having a redemption arc

[@drak0n194]

Joey says he doesn’t believe someone who was backstage having a panic attack couldn’t get on stage and perform just fine. That is exactly how my anxiety works. I may not be doing anything nearly that stressful, but I feel like I’m going to die leading up to any kind of public speaking until I start talking, and then I’m good.

[@mistersureshot1749]

Agree

[@QMS9224]

As an introvert full time musician, I had panic attacks nearly everyday for most of my life lol. I would throw up right before going on stage, and I couldn’t eat at all the day of a show. Nowadays I am fine I learned through exposure therapy. That being said I actually agree w Joey that bocci music is just ok it’s really not up there for music anime for me. It’s carried by introverts not the actual music

[@driftingbout297]

as someone who use to play in a Orchestra i would hide behind my other mates in the section my conductor amazing guy very funny helped me out alot with social anxiety and stage fright u can play the song and practice the sheet for hours every day and play it perfect and then when u get on stage it's like being choked everyone can hear your mistakes everyone can see your bow movements ​@@QMS9224

[@Zero-zr6xx]

I swear Joey is baiting hard with that statement. Bro has interviewed many celebs who said the same thing regarding social anxiety

[@yunfanji]

It is her passion so it would make sense that doing it would make her relax against all fears. Simply one forgets those fears, it is not that deep. There is a reason people always suggest self care to deal with anxiety. Now I would understand Joey if it was about trauma because it is not as simple as "just forget" but it is obviously not.

[@misatai5457]

21:43 Man not the editor showing Ryo when Joey was talking about Kukuri. Even editor doesn't care for bocchi the rock 😂

[@doctorfishi2260]

As someone who has shown Steins;Gate to a few of my family and friends I can confirm, that for some people it definetly doesnt feel slow. Just because the first half builds up to a big twist, that does not necessarily make it "slow". Because especially if you pay attention to details (and also to music i think) you can sense A LOT of tension during the first half (aka you really feel the build up being a build up). And even though some of the D-Mails might feel random, the mystery aspect can easily be strong enough to still keep you engaged. Characters like Suzuha for example are mysterious/intruiging from the start (even though they only become truly relevant later). There also are a lot of small payoffs in the first half in general: Everytime the D-Mails change the past is a small surprise and with it the paranoia/uncomfort of Okabe increases (and with that the engagement of the viewer). I think this feeling of "jokingly being a conspiracy theorist and then realizing that your conspiracy is kinda true and youre way to deep to escape from it" is enough to not make the show feel slow. If anything this feeling intensifies with a 'slower' pacing (which im Not even sure Steinsgate has, the "pace" is just a lot more suttle) For example there even are people calling the first episode slow, probably because there is Not that much "actually happening". But if you pay attention to the music and the direction (and the shit ton of small Things Happening) you cant tell me that this is slow. The Hook of the first episode is still crazy to this day I feel like and it got my best friend instantly. Yeah maybe that wasnt the best example, because the first episode is probably one of the best. But if you think that even the first one is slow, the show probably just isnt something for you. And not because it is slow but because that kind of Story(telling) is not for you. Also the show is still pretty funny/memable (at least in German dub lol) which also keeps the entertainment up Funnily I think Steinsgate 0 is a good example for a slow show (which doesnt make it Bad, but maybe a lot less bingable. And Steinsgate seems to be very bingable for a lot of people) I know that this exactly sounds like the people Connor Made fun of. But I still wanted to comment because I have seen the show still "working" for some people. Also I dont think that you have to be highly intelligent, just interested. Its Just about feeling that there is something not actually getting/predicting what it is.

[@KingMinish]

The things okabe does in 0 and the ending of that show super elevate the whole series for me, he becomes an incredible hero

[@doctorfishi2260]

@@KingMinish i could not agree more :)

[@jjthomson2815]

​@@KingMinishmight have to rewatch 0 cause I don't remember liking it

[@jjthomson2815]

Steins gate is goated and flawless, ignoring the movie and 0

[@doctorfishi2260]

@@jjthomson2815 personally I also think that Steins;Gate was better than 0. But at least for me the first episodes of 0 and especially the last episodes are really cool and impactful. But I can relate. For example rewatching Steinsgate is a lot easier than rewatching 0 ...

[@tomppeli.]

Joey's shit take on Bocchi actually made me listen to the soundtrack and it's bussin'

[@stars6627]

20:26 Connor’s face has me dead bro 😭

[@juice6521]

He's looking into your soul.

[@dazaimaru5799]

Looked dead inside LOL

[@reconfox82]

It's has to be a meme

[@00Human0]

wtf is bro doing lmaoo

[@brainlessappendix4369]

He's doing the Jim face

[@UserBright]

Not that Ryo when Joey talked about Hiroi 💀

[@n1gtwhisper158]

Fkn Mudan bro

[@tazwar5324]

That's Roy

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

That’s pretty clear that they don’t watch their videos before uploading, and yeah, you shouldn’t do that

[@n1gtwhisper158]

@ragnaricstudios5888 why would they, they pay an editor to do that. Mudan is usually right

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

@@n1gtwhisper158when you’re paying someone, they have to be on point, and letting stuff like that slip through makes them look misinformed

[@leisj_gt]

This podcast lives up to its name. The standards are inconsistent. Either try to be objective or be subjective. You can't keep mixing both.

[@marbilSWE]

Loved this episode! Hope to see the other planned tournament in later episodes.

[@lenn_man]

Okay I can't accept Joey shitting on the Bocchi soundtrack like that 😭

[@loganmccurdy1328]

couldn't believe what I was hearing. as a fellow guitarist his take feels almost slanderous. ano bando goes unbelievably hard

[@lenn_man]

@@loganmccurdy1328 best song in the album ngl, I also love Flashbacker

[@loganmccurdy1328]

@@lenn_man hell yes

[@partinmalm]

Definitlely, Joey´s take on BTR was absolutely unjustified. Him hating on the soundtrack is just rubbing a shit ton of salt into the wound

[@lenn_man]

@@partinmalm honestly Joey really came for the Bocchi fans' heads with his take. It also just seemed like he won't regard the show's merits and why it was received so well by lots of people

[@LymLevolveon]

From everything that Joey says, I think 1. Joey was drunk while watching Bocchi 2. Joey dropped it halfway 3. Joey hasn't watched it and hates it because of the fandom

[@demonicakane2083]

second and third one i would agree

[@nintendofreak768]

He also Holds K-On to high of a regard.

[@ragnaricstudios5888]

Or he didn’t give it a chance and expected absolutely perfect

[@Sukenus]

@@nintendofreak768 Yeah. No idea what Joey sees in K-On. I thought first season was mid and second was downright bad, because the mental age of the cast dropped to 5.

[@RoaringTide]

He also just isn't very familiar with the extent of social anxiety.

[@yousslc]

15:40 I talked about not liking this part in Code Geass in R/anime and I got like -30 downvotes and everyone started telling me "stick to romance" or "never seen a kind character die".. "you're hating for no reason" "it was an accident and accidents happen in real life" 😞

[@Riflez308]

Joey's take on BTR woke me the fk up 5am in the morning what the hell

[@Anthony20603]

Joeys opinion on Bocchi The Rock makes me want to die inside 😭, aint no way im hearing him shit on the soundtrack, i see why anitwt jumps on bro 😭😭😭

[@jacopom.7477]

To be honest the soundtrack is the worst part of the anime

[@smlpol]

Joey exposed himself again. In one of the live shows, he said the Bocchi music was "stellar"

[@QMS9224]

Tbh I disagree with Joey ALOT. And I also liked/didn’t hate Bocci. I’m also an introvert. But I actually agree with him here, I am musician my whole life and that’s my full time career (not that it makes a difference everyone is entitled to their opinion). But I say this more in that I am a music anime connoisseur. Tbh bocci was just ok for me, the music certainly wasn’t bad but I can’t remember a single song or melody nothing sticks. I just think you are lying if you say that you listen to Bocci soundtrack in your free time. I just wish ppl would admit that they fell in love with bocci’s character and it carried the show, but the music was just ok.

[@dallydakopkapt.1604]

@@QMS9224 i do listen to the soundtrack in my free time. Its not that crazy.

[@derp4581]

@@QMS9224 It's been 1.5 years since Bocchi ended, I don't speak a lick of Japanese, but when I listen to the music (yes, I do it on my free time), I still remember the meaning of each line from way back when I read the translations not long after the show ended. It's that memorable to me

[@perrelos2284]

People say Joey is pretentious because he thinks Lain and Monster and other "deep" anime are the best, but honestly the most pretentious opinion is to hype up K-on while reducing Bocchi, Bandori, GBC and other girl band anime to "cheap K-on clones". If you like K-on, I don't see how you could dislike so much especially those three, even if they are not the same obviously.

[@valhallakombi7239]

Especially GBC, for some reason he hates it with a passion

[@bidulus1]

@@valhallakombi7239 Wait where did he actually talk about Girls Band Cry? I only remember him naming it in passing this episode

[@valhallakombi7239]

@@bidulus1 I think he mentioned it in passing in some second channel video that I watched, probably that Reddit top 500 video. He had same reaction, didn't understand why it was in top 500

[@bidulus1]

@@valhallakombi7239 Oh yeah I remember that, he didn't really say anything about it though, I doubt he watched it. Which honestly maybe he should, from what he's been saying he would probably like it a lot more than Bocchi 🤣

[@infamousshinkicker6924]

Another thing imo that Joey said which was pretentious was giving One Punch Man anime a C tier ranking. Bruh...

[@coppermustache5677]

Gotta love Connors switch from "Terrorism is based" to "Is it impossible to redeem a human being?"

[@phrofile3613]

Joey hatin on bocchi is wild 😂

[@Plummchild]

saying Girls band Cry is a K-on clone might be the worst Anime take iv ever heard joey have

[@renk9290]

I genuinely believe he read the description and nothing more cuz the only thing they have in common is music fr

[@scanskynero3083]

Joey tries to be a snobby contrarian because he realizes he doesn't have a redeeming quirk that the other boys have

[@user19kemkxnfhk18]

I hate joey for this man wtf

[@fukunaga-kane]

@@renk9290 its probably it because Girls Band Cry is an anime original. Joey dont watch shows, he reads manga.

[@nir5389]

20:20 i found it so funny that Garnt and Joey was just having this debate and Connor just blankly staring into the void, no thoughts in the head, just empty 😂

[@SKAOG21]

13:22 LMAO Connor's face when he realised he immediately failed his challenge to avoid using filler words

[@tuvillo]

I’m guessing the new Frieren party beats some sort of replacement Demon King, preferably with as little involvement of Frieren herself as possible. That’s a fine climax to earn the ending afterwards.

[@tuvillo]

PS: Connor is gonna go absolutely wild over Señor Pink’s backstory. I’m just feeling it.

[@jklolnotded9267]

Drink every time joey doesn't understand social anxiety

[@trova4725]

zero drinks will be had lol

[@solacee4327]

I have really bad social anxiety, but I can sorta understand him because I've always been astounded by people who embarrass themselves infront of others because they have social anxiety. Like I've met people like Bocchi who freak out and stay quiet and are just super awkward and it always confuses the hell out of me because my anxiety makes me act normal because I would off myself if anyone thought I wasn't normal lmao (I also would never be able to perform in public of my own volition though) When I was a kid I actively disliked those types of kids because I always felt like they were faking it for attention because if I could pretend to be comfortable/normal despite having a panic attack then so could they (I don't think that anymore since I know it comes in all different forms and depends on different factors, I also thought it was embarrassing when other kids cried at that age, just saying I can understand where Joey is coming from)

[@ShadowOfMassDestruction]

@@solacee4327 Finally! Someone who tries to understand both sides instead of attacking Joey for the sake of attacking Joey.

[@NCR_]

@@solacee4327 Ah, I think this helps me understand a bit better what it is about Bocchi the Rock that made me dislike it. I couldn't really put my finger on why I found it violently unenjoyable, despite enjoying very similar shows such as K-On and Hitoribocchi no marumaru seikatsu (the latter of which is the better Bocchi and co), but it's probably smth similar to what you've explained.

[@adizcool2-655]

@@solacee4327 Joey is saying that there are no people like Bocchi at all though. He has even said many times before that he cannot imagine a real person thinking or acting like Bocchi does. I don't understand how you agree with him when you yourself have encountered people like that in real life

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Bocchi is for musicians not just introverts wtf come on guys. We don’t call Naruto a show for extroverts, that’s just a trait of the main character.

[@michaeldavis8918]

It's about an introvert learning how to communicate through music you could remove the music and change it to something else and it still would hit similarly

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@michaeldavis8918it’s about an aspiring guitarist who is introverted. Literally everything about the show from the gear to the playing is way too detailed to claim that you could just throw it away.

[@michaeldavis8918]

@leastselfawarepotassium make her an artist or a V-tuber or some other role you can get famous online without needing to show your face then have her meet friends who help he become less introverted boom bocci the artist or bocchi the tuber or whatever the show doesn't need the music to tell its message it does use music really well but the purpose of the show isn't the music

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@michaeldavis8918that’s just ridiculous man. You could say that about literally any anime. Make Blue Lock about basketball and it’s the same.

[@michaeldavis8918]

@leastselfawarepotassium yeah sure I'm talking about the purpose of the story it's supposed to teach us about how to get our comfort zone, ofc the story won't be the same I'm just talking about the lessons the story is trying to teach us, they could have a basketball blue lock where they are trying to be the best point guard or something ofc the story won't be the same but the purpose of the story could still be the same

[@pancho123456781]

This podcast keeps living up to its name ❤

[@ragberkotobuki41]

Not a bocchi fan, but Joe is so pretentious its not even funny, brother just hating, with no reason. K-on is good, but saying that Bocchi has worse music then K-on is soooo stupid, coming from the guy who has more then one guitar😂. And we know he plays, but brooooo this is such a bad take, i can't.

[@benjaa.]

Connor's face during the Joey rant on Bocchi being bad😭

[@Sugarist0]

Bro is an extrovert trying to tell introverts how they should behave

[@deathlydashi]

Who?

[@mrblazeapound7856]

​@@deathlydashi I think they're talking about Joey

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

If referring to the whole Bocchi the Rock thing, while I've not seen the anime, it seems she might be an introvert but more accurately, she has severe social anxiety and they're not the same. I am an introvert, I am happy with my own company and don't really yearn for the company of others, though maybe in the future I might like to try having friends. I'm not against socializing, but I'm very content to be by myself. Social anxiety is someone who wants to make friends or socialize but it brings on extreme panic. The two can have some over-lap and share a Vinn Diagram, but they're not the same thing. I say this because I'm admittedly quite tired of people mixing them up. Introversion is being seen the same as social anxiety and it's not. I kind of feel like I'm always on clean up duty when speaking to extroverts and having to course-correct because when I say I'm an introvert, the reaction is imemdiately negative. Forgive me, those with social anxiety, that will have to be your battle to speak on and explain since I've not walked in those shoes, but I'm going to at least try to set the record straight for us introverts 😅 I saw an animated short here on KZbin not too long ago that I seriously wish I could find again because it explains it so perfectly, of a character living on their own in the woods, not because they hate people or people make them nervous or anxious, but because it's what brings them joy. The character is single and maybe one day they'll have a partner but likely no kids, and that's also not due to hating kids, it's just not what they want for their life. I felt like the animator got the "assignment" and did a beautiful job of representing "us".😂 There's plenty of content about social anxiety but not enough on just being an introvert. We're not as represented because we're always inaccurately depicted/labeled. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk 😂

[@AJJ129]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley"you "might like to try having friends" don't worry you will it will be tough you might get hurt in all honesty you probably will get hurt but you'll like it and it'll be worth it to have true friends

[@aborikin2764]

​@@deathlydashiThats if the most retarded take I've ever seen

[@JasonFree]

13:13 Connor immediately catching himself doing an "um" and giving a mini slap is a highlight for sure

[@tabecha1096]

The way I interpreted Frieren story was that it started out as a journey of us seeing her journeying to understand how meaningful her relationships with her past comrades were, but once she took Fern on as a student it went from that to a story about Frieren’s eventual death. During their exam arc I felt like the idea of Elves being nearly immortal and coupled with both Frieren and Serie mention how in the future if anyone is going to kill them it’ll be a human. All of these points left an impression that this was evolving into a story about her death either once she achieves her goal of meeting Himmel or her death will lead to their reunion.

[@oomay1925]

Joey's clarification that he never said he hated jjk was so heated he didn't even think about how crazy he would come off expressing his hate towards Bocchi lol. And as much I totally understand putting jjk over Bocchi, the argument for it is so braindead.

[@cheyennemoore8380]

I completely agree and I've never seen either. I've had both on my list and from what little I've seen of each, that's how I felt while listening to this argument.

[@vvverne]

How? He just thinks JJK is serviceable while disliking Bocchi. Nothing crazy about that

[@ifightbears7609]

@@vvverne Its just hist argument about disliking Bocchi is so dumb

[@vvverne]

@@ifightbears7609 He hates bocchi because he founds the MC insufferable, the music mid & the story boring. Those are pretty normal sounding opinions

[@nik021298]

​@@vvvernebut he doesn't say it like that

[@zedith6045]

I really wish the boys would all rewatch Steins;Gate because it's genuinely such a good show with so many amazing scenes but every time it gets brought up in a video they never talk specifics they just say "I remember it being really good but I can't specify what I liked about it because I can't remember the specifics. all I remember is the beginning and the destination and it being amazing". Since they rely purely on their memories about the show they just think about it's legacy as being a geniusly written show with a calculated story but they forget all of the great character writing and emotional moments in-between all of these huge revelations in the story that make them so great. ex. Mr. Braun committing suicide, Suzuha discovering that Daru is her dad, Okabe stealing the phone from Moeka and sending the dmail but realizing it didn't work because past Moeka didn't believe the message, Suzuha time leaping back in time and becoming someone Mr. Braun looks up to. All of these are such great moments not only in terms of genius calculated writing plot wise but also character wise

[@samuraijosh1595]

true true, Steins gate is much more well written than aot and especially factoring aot ending into the comparision I dont know how you can pick Aot over steins gate which has a goated ending.

[@Omar_E11]

​@samuraijosh1595 AoT ending is great in the anime and the only reason people don't like it is because they don't get understand it. Also, the hosts never put down or trashed Steins Gate, which is a great show. They just like AoT better which is a valid opinion. Stop crying

[@zedith6045]

@@Omar_E11 I never said they put it down I just said that it's a shame they don't get into more detailed discussions about it since they don't remember it much. Also we can agree to disagree because I've analyzed the AoT ending for hours and I've come to the stance that it's one of the most disappointing endings in fiction, at least when you look at the discrepancy in quality between the ending and the rest of the show

[@Omar_E11]

@@zedith6045 There is no discrepancy in quality in the anime. The manga ending had flaws that were resolved in the adaptation.

[@zedith6045]

@@Omar_E11 there were only minor changes made with the conversation between Eren and Armin but there are problems beyond just that. Even then the conversation between the two has its flaws

[@CloudeeChance]

Connor losing an argument for one reason, while Garnt wins an argument for the same reason. Multiple times

[@pol610]

Which one?

[@RocSandy]

I've never been happier for who won this tournament arc

[@HyperKryst]

How I view Bocchi is that her behavior is not really realistic, but it signifies how a person with social anxiety sees themselves. It's overexaggarated for a comedic relief too, and her behavior shouldn't really be compared to reality, so I kinda die a little bit inside when Joey tries to make the point that people like that don't exist. She's a fictional character in an anime and that's why it works.

[@MNTNHMESMO]

"What do you mean someone with social anxiety doesn't morph through a bunch of art styles, to then become a terrible 3D model, and then be sent flying through the air to hit bowling balls? That's not realistic guys... So bad" Bro watched the show with his brain in rest mode.

[@viciousoz4188]

As much as I appreciate Garnt for defending Bocchi, his defense is terrible. At least for me, I did not watch or enjoy Bocchi because it was "relatable." I watched and enjoyed it because of the character progression, jokes, and music alone. He's not selling the show at all everytime he tries to frame it as an anime "for introverts."

[@HyperKryst]

@@MNTNHMESMO Best thing is that Joey literally was prasing Bocchi when it was coming out, and only because of the whole drama with him saying that nobody is like bocchi he flipped his opinion to spite bocchi fans.

[@kid3905]

@@viciousoz4188 Yeah lol I agree. That was the most frustrating part for me regarding the whole segement, the person arguging in favor of the show is doing a poor job of explaining why people actually enjoy the show.

[@MNTNHMESMO]

@@viciousoz4188 Also, it's a great feel good anime. With a character that tries her absolute hardest to get over a mental illness.

[@scott7224]

As someone who has struggled with social anxiety all my life, Bocchi is accurate, just makes the struggle funny for entertainment purposes lol

[@ImExit]

Ain’t no way Joey said K-On is better than Bocchi

[@Rust1809]

Grant and Joey so insane that Connor comes off sane, lol

[@Seigensei]

Bruh. Joey is really just hating Bocchi for the sake of hating. Bro probably got pissed cuz people kept saying it’s better than K-on

[@mookiestewart3776]

No he’s hating it because a large number of you bocchi fans are insufferable and the music was mid at best. It’s pretty simple dog.

[@istaka1416]

I think so.

[@baygone-r8s]

he is just faking a drama

[@2BAMaster9]

This the same guy who farmed clicks for hating SAO just to hate

[@germchang]

I mean tbf, it's not everyone's cup of tea. Sure, it appeals to the majority of the anime fan base, but I could see how Joey would find it as unrealistic because he doesn't relate to it. But you're right in that saying that he hates it rather than saying "it's just not for me" is for sure just hating