THE TRIALOGUE (LCS 2022 CoStreams | Spring Split | Week 8 - Day 2)

[@SnipingHobo_]

▼ Time Stamps [0:00:00] Game 1: DIG vs TL - [0:00:24] Thoughts on FakeGod - [0:16:23] Neo's New Ezreal Build Tech [0:20:13] Doublelift's TSM Rollercoaster Story [0:22:13] Game 2: GG vs EG - [0:23:53] Discussing Kai'Sa and her Builds [0:42:40] Doublelift's ADC Player Tier List & Sneaky Ranks Himself "Top 3" - [0:45:33] Sneaky's thoughts on Berserker [0:46:58] Game 3: C9 vs 100 [1:08:45] Podcast: Pro Players not Grinding Champions Queue - [1:11:44] LCS Players' Games Played Stats (March 14-18) - [1:12:55] LCS Players' Games Played Stats (March 18-24) - [1:20:22] TSM Management forcing their players into playing Solo Queue over Champions Queue - [1:23:39] Thoughts on LCS Players' Work Ethic (Back then vs. Now) [1:27:11] Podcast: Faker's Streams [1:30:10] Game 4: TSM vs CLG - [1:35:09] Memes: Meteos speculating how Shenyi caught COVID-19 [1:44:56] Game 5: FLY vs IMT - [1:48:41] Thoughts on Arrow - [1:49:47] Thoughts on Treasure Hunter replacing Ravenous Hunter rune

[@doom_heit]

Didn’t he stream day 1?

[@briandel55]

Thank you!

[@RickJacked]

Damn when sneaky went in on the Berserker question... I absolutely love that, that's not flame, that's just fucking tenacity and belief in yourself. That's what makes competition so much fun and it's also why without the big personalities of DL, meteos and sneaky people aren't as invested. Sneaky actually styled on people in worlds, so far berserker is a promising kid from korea doing well in his first split.

[@justfactual]

"...berserker is a promising kid from korea doing well in his first split." Yeah I think regardless of your opinion on Berserker, context that it's not even playoffs yet, let alone a Worlds run, is kinda useful to keep in mind xD How sick would it be if Sneaky came back thooooo

[@Farazormal1]

"he's in my spot" really got me good man. And its true, why the hell have they not brought back sneaky.

[@jonathanekat3852]

I wouldn’t necessarily say that either DL or sneaky “styled” on people in worlds but they had a reasonable performance and got stomped when they played vs better people. Nothing to be ashamed of.

[@pavlevasilev2968]

​@@jonathanekat3852 IDK what can a ADC do when his team is getting stomped everygame in worlds...

[@Darkstormsun9865]

@@jonathanekat3852 nah sneaky definitely styled on some good adcs sometimes. his lucian got respect banned by ssb (2nd best team btw) against deft of all people. mystic one of the best adcs in china and WE the only team that took a game off ssg in the bracket run, straight up said sneaky and smoothie were better than them in a post game interview.

[@Liam-kn9vp]

I love how sneaky rolls up his sleeves to show off the guns when he’s talking about shitting on berserk

[@ComfortableTool86]

LCS is finally back!! Or, you know, the only time I actually watch LCS.

[@Scawtsauce]

You mean you don't like Gabby/letigress going "oOo u good huh oOo you pressing R huuuhhhhh*

[@benjaminparker5044]

Lmao same! The only way I regularly consume LCS content outside of the occasional C9 game

[@LightningMcMurphy]

As much as I agree it’s legit this mindset as to why we don’t get Co streams more lol.

[@ComfortableTool86]

@@LightningMcMurphy how so? I would rather let Riot know that it's co-streams or I'm not watching LCS at all, unless they wanna let their casters be genuinely entertaining.

[@itexistsbeyondtimedeeznuts7949]

@@LightningMcMurphy should’ve never given them to us In the first place then

[@jmoolah3691]

These are so well edited-highlighting builds, showing relevant ability descriptions, playing clips they are discussing

[@JemmC89]

Don't forget the little sound effects too! The subtle Instant Transmission effect when Kai'sa ulted and keeping the continuity from the shorter videos really puts the editor in a new league.

[@CS-wx3ob]

I love these, and I love when Sneaky laughs like the cross-eyed guy from The Waterboy

[@selixxiles1262]

I love the little sound effects added to each game, they just always make me happy. Shout outs to whoever edits these vids

[@SeisoYabai]

29:00 Someone on EG question pinged Danny's dive LMAO

[@saintsataniko2116]

The Trialogue is back for more LCS insanity. Honestly most of these games would have been unwatchable without them.

[@Darkstormsun9865]

you think every game is unwatchable lets face it.

[@RaventhortheWarrior]

That first game is gonna have a Lost to Shopkeeper segment somewhere... Edit: Funny to note, Raz had Neo 4th on the tier list, Doublelift had him 9th.

[@triarcness]

Finally, watchable LCS

[@endymionzzzwins5479]

small thing but i actually really like how the editor uses audio queue's to let us know if a statement is correct or incorrect like when they were all talking about the divine sunderer and essence reaver passives and which one had prio over the other. small detail that makes the video more enjoyable @sneaky

[@bloodyzayne]

The only lcs games I'll watch since the last tricast! And only ones I'll watch aslong as this is a thing

[@itzssun]

the DL photo xd the rollercoaster incident

[@chrisc2577]

I've been a big proponent of nashors on kaisa for a while. here's something yall might have missed in your convo: The point of AP kaisa is exactly as doublelift said, to never be in range to die but always be in range to one shot someone. However, once a teamfight breaks out, you want the ability to do more than just w spam. for example, shredding a tank, popping a squishy out of position, repositioning to auto an objective, etc. Nashors gives you evolved e which helps keep you safe in teamfights where you WANT to be in auto range to maximize damage. Nashors helps with AP builds (although it isn't the strongest choice), but it also turns AP builds into carry builds where you provide more utility than simply W spamming from range. it's essentially the perfect hybrid item. If you're building a poke comp, then sure skip the nashors. but i haven't seen a single pure poke comp in the LCS ever in its history.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

Low key... I think Sneaky would be better than Danny. The thing with Danny is that his laning is bad this season, but his TeamFighting is good, but Sneaky was a great team fighter. Sneaky consistency would make him better and also bring diversity to his team since he can play with resources, without resources a conventional AD or a few unconventional picks. Beserker and Hans still top 2. FBI and Danny are takeable spots for Sneaky depending clearly on which team he's at and his support.

[@joaobrito2653]

danny's laning isnt bad xD ur just going off narrative. no ADC has had good laning stats when playing with Ignar because ignar roams a lot and often takes comfort picks over good lane matchups. this year with vulcan his laning is way way better

[@snow1498]

Sucks that riot limits co casting coz this is the only way I'd watch lcs

[@jenswestphal5962]

Such good content. Love as always for the cutter

[@stillfrosty1413]

Loved the comments about the adc tier list

[@Habeev07]

Sneaky really needs to come back to pro. I want it so badly!

[@rhorantyko7796]

DL is exactly right about kaisa. I remember getting flamed for picking kog against kaisa when she has pick/ban every game. My einrate was >60% tho. Kaisa just can't lane well but has synergy with engage supports. Imagine kaisa into a mid laner who can abuse her weak early like sylas, syndra or lb. You could literally just farm her on CD off a chain or abscond with your jungler. Faker is built different for the most part, but if I was still playing this season I'd love to lane vs a mid kaisa blind pick.

[@gunkshotpoison]

Underrated joke: keeping the debuff up 1:36:38

[@5x385]

glad editor pointed out how the passives stack, i was pretty sure the effects stack and that confirmed it--i dont know why you'd do that still, ez has plenty of mana by that point id think and you dont get the dmg from essence

[@tjmcbride88]

Yussss my life has meaning again!!!!

[@_anlim309]

They really did DL dirty on these Thumbnails, And fking love it xD

[@Zamerux]

God, I remember that ad Kaisa game and thinking "this build is troll". Kaisa's TTK is kinda shit when compared to other adc's if she doesn't already have stacks of plasma on the enemy. Her range is short, ult doesn't do damage, so going full ad against a team comp that can easily zone her was just a terrible decision. I think it's good on paper but every fight it was just zdps

[@Darkstormsun9865]

why ad kaisa is still the best dps version of her.

[@turtlepowerftw3524]

The fact that they don’t let y’all co stream every week is just sad

[@julioamador157]

I respect the confidence

[@fleamastar1]

Lift lift kinda looks like Heihachi in that rollercoaster picture :3

[@tyiscool12321]

Mr. Hobo, you benevolent god, why do you post these so late in the night. My sleep schedule can only handle so much

[@bjfflegend]

After Dig took Drag at 25:00, they definitely should have just backed off and disengage. Diving in while behind was the worst move they could have done.

[@animalx28]

Whole thing about Champions Queue boils down to the culture. Like they said, nobody wants to play in the West and put in the work to improve, and it just feels like our pros have resigned themselves to the NA stagnation and not even bothering improving. Olleh is 100% right.

[@ivailoivanov01]

INSANE BANGER

[@fataltruth01]

"Kraken" Deeez Nutz!!!

[@shadowimagery]

1:11:45 what's the number under all the graphs? EDIT: nvm, it's the average number of champions queue played per team.

[@ComfortableTool86]

In regards to what Dlift said about AP Kaisa, idk why people are upset about it. It feels horrible to play against it late esp if your comp is squishy but if they pick it mid I just play an aggressive mid laner or ask for mid pressure to shut her down because she is so bad before 2 items and W evolve.

[@znJakobnz]

We back baby!

[@godzilla1309]

LS talking about Malphite top for months and 100T uses it against C9. Oh, the Irony.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

Olleh spitting fact on his Tweet about CQ. NA always complain about something, LCS/Riot finally give to them and they just ignore it. It's always excuses for NA players. They will do anything to create excuses, but not practice and grind to be better. NA just ran out of excuses at this point. They get too distracted with the lifestyle of California flashing light and influencers kind of life style and restaurants everywhere and things to do.

[@Mooshymang]

I enjoy this so much

[@bug5654]

Oh, right, day one was a meatytoes solocast.

[@jairoabarca8969]

Doublelift telling other their name is weird is ironic.

[@Cesnik_]

SnipingHobo appreciation comment 🙏

[@Jeffrey_Tyler]

I love Sneaky, he's one of my favorite League players of all time, but him saying that if he was playing he'd shit all over Berserker and make him look terrible is straight up CAP.

[@markmyers8491]

You heard it here first folks.. Meteos loves getting triple bortk'd

[@veryfewfriends]

1:28:06 Btw afaik all T1 players have access to translators

[@carsonsimpson3732]

pro players, that get paid to play the game are buillding essence and sunderer, i dont feel bad being plat anymore lol

[@joaobrito2653]

sunderer on ezreal makes no sense ever since they changed the item. if you are playing into a ton of tanks then you shouldnt be picking ezreal to begin with, trinity gives the same amount of hp while giving more damage and essence reaver with lethality mythic makes ezreal hit like a truck( either prowlers claw or eclipse if enemy has a lot of armor).

[@WTFtomahawks0]

Shoutout to your editor, he’s smurfing as usual.

[@PaddyRoon7]

Full damage Jarvan in that comp might just be the worst build I've seen in competitive.

[@imCylo]

I feel so honoured that Meteos was reading my twitter comment at 1:19:54 :D Danny doesn't like CQ because he thinks everyone is too focussed on trying to win rather than trying out new things to practise. So he prefers SoloQ.

[@Shunpon77]

Listening to Sneaky shit on Berserker is the best. 👌 I also agree 👍

[@greenpacman71]

what about imaqtpie in form though ?

[@akaliislifeakaliislove5968]

Wait trialogue is just dialogue+1?

[@mangeboooi1337]

What is sneaky’s pc wallpaper and where can i get it? The crying jinx!

[@raevynkosanke5847]

On the naut play corejj did, I bet the code just starts the ult from nautilus' position and not the anchor, so anyone standing on top of nautilus (e.g. karma after getting hooked) gets knocked up as well.

[@hotmochagrande3156]

Wait which one proc E.reaver or sunderer?

[@01MetalMaster]

Where is day 3?

[@erikyoungdahl99]

Where’s day 1 on sneakys channel, did i miss it? or did they not costream

[@rondeauhall2145]

They ended up not co streaming if I remember correctly

[@lavastrike]

only meteos streamed day 1

[@mq8335]

Has anyone tried Rageblade on Zeri? Dont know how the math works out but seems like another idea

[@mochabearry]

Pros probably have and it’s not worth it. OR they haven’t And you’re into something!

[@JustinFayden]

Finally, Some Good Fucking Food

[@XX-pq6cu]

bruh idk how i got here so early

[@miguelhidalgo4790]

Sneaky back to lcs??

[@fredjohnson1706]

Hope we didn’t miss day 1

[@Rockguy42]

Sneaky apparently slept in and I guess meteos and doublelift didn’t do it either day 1

[@ariariadne]

@@Rockguy42 meteos solo streamed day 1

[@fredjohnson1706]

@@Rockguy42 My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined

[@Scawtsauce]

How to beat c9, pick malphite Camp top

[@Salmontres]

wtf is that thumbnail lmao

[@SeisoYabai]

That Neo build has to be intentional. It HAS to be "eh we lost this game super hard, but we're not allowed to ff or blatantly troll, Ill just build this to get it over with faster"

[@Darkstormsun9865]

i mean he could want the mana from it.

[@SeisoYabai]

@@Darkstormsun9865 He rushed it and THEN bought a Divine. There's no world where that's optimal. He could've bought a Crown and had all of the same benefits as Divine.

[@sushisea]

IS RHE TRIOO

[@Nic-ye2yz]

The games that day were all so one sided sadge

[@gadgas6905]

Pros with 0 game should just got finned

[@Scawtsauce]

Super nut

[@reggaemarley4617]

In regards to pro player solo queue time, the thing that really bothers me is that the are literally pro players. Like who the fuck becomes a professional competitor in something unless they actually have the drive and pride to want to be the best? NA players have every excuse in the book and then some to just not play. Why? Shouldn't they be the most obsessed with improving?

[@VnD77]

If Riot was a good company they’d make a power move and hire you guys to costream live on their channel…but they released Lillia/Zoe/Yuumi and serajean so we know theres nothing but Betas left there

[@andrewkelley9405]

Ah look, the only way to make this dumpster fire region enjoyable! 😝

[@krebgurfson5732]

leaves korea to play in NA then complains that NA is not korea. big brain super smart human

[@SpaceZeee]

Did Sneaky, Meteos or DL comment on Letigress horrible cringe casting? lol

[@Darkstormsun9865]

no because they aren't haters just because shes a woman.

[@SpaceZeee]

@@Darkstormsun9865 you could've swapped her with a man and keep the voice it would have still been awful regardless of gender.

[@SnowyWint3r]

First

[@KosmicBanana]

well played