Some of you might remember that I told this story once before - years ago now I covered this disaster with the 11th video I ever made on this channel. Unfortunately, it got taken down not long after it was posted. Now I've taken the opportunity to remake it, explore the disaster more fully, correct some errors, and generally smarten the whole thing up. If you remember the original video... can I just say thank you, sincerely, for sticking with me for so long!
@sophierobinson27382 жыл бұрын
I remember your original video. Thanks for posting a new one.
@FFEMTB082 жыл бұрын
Never stop!
@QT56562 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your excellent work! Your channel is one of the best on KZbin. I've shared episodes with many friends and family and all have been impressed.
@Girraficusthewise2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna say....you've done this one already...lol
@okeydokey31202 жыл бұрын
You've had great content since you started and it truly appreciated! Thank you so much 🙂
@Inkling7772 жыл бұрын
If you do a followup, you might describe the law students who went onto the roof of an adjacent building that was a law library, found ladders and stretched them across the 100-foot high space between. When some of the young women were too afraid to cross on their own, those students went across themselves and escorted them. That's one reason those who fled to the roof survived.
@ashotofmercury2 жыл бұрын
Oh my!
@SailorIda32 жыл бұрын
oh dear, thats amazing!
@esciteach79972 жыл бұрын
yup: was also in the movie made of this incident
@jj-if6it2 жыл бұрын
just also commented this
@lil_one1462 жыл бұрын
I think he covered it in the first video
@rpgspree2 жыл бұрын
Killing a random stranger by personal negligence would likely land you in jail, but likewise killing an employee rarely gets more than a fine. That's a fundamental issue that still hasn't changed. Employers get treated by the law as if they were entitled lords.
@Emil215p2 жыл бұрын
should have been locked up for lifetime for this
@Blatsen2 жыл бұрын
This is a major problem. I have had numerous bosses who demand respect and loyalty from their employees, but don’t give it in return. Being a boss or employer doesn’t make you God and it doesn’t make you above the law. I have no problem walking out of a job and quitting without notice if the boss’s behavior warrants it.
@mariekatherine52382 жыл бұрын
@@Blatsen Use your common sense and your gut. If either tells you something’s not right, just leave. No job is worth your life. Three years ago I was living in NYC looking for a small studio apt. or rented room w/private restroom near a temp. job I’d taken. A friend had heard about a room with private half bath in a newish building. The price was in my range and the location was a only five blocks from work. Sounds ideal, right? We went to check it out. Turns out it was in the back, a sort of half-way basement opening onto a common patio and yard. My friend thought it was perfect and was surprised I didn’t snatch it up. I’d come with two mos. rent + security deposit, cash, as that’s how one rents a technically illegal place in NYC--area not zoned for rentals. There was just something about the small enclosed stairway leading down to the admittedly spacious room that gave me pause. I also didn’t like that the main source of electric was a 10 socket, heavy duty power strip whose wire emerged from beneath a nailed shut door and neatly affixed to the wall. What were the conditions on the other side in someone else’s apartment? Who knew? This past spring NYC was struck by torrential storms and flooding in the streets and basements. Sadly, a young Korean family of three, mother, father, and eight month old infant perished in that apartment when water filled the place from ground level level windows blocking egress to the enclosed stairwell. In addition, the mother was shown to have been knocked unconscious by the electric shock she received when the water reached the level of the illegal wiring. I feel grateful it wasn’t me, but very bad for the people, just starting out in their young adult life, and the baby who never even got to enjoy childhood. And no, the owner of the building who lived in Korea, and the superintendent who occupied the entire third (top) floor paid fines in a civil suit, but neither spent so much as a night in jail.
@katiekane52472 жыл бұрын
@@mariekatherine5238 I'm glad you trusted your gut. Very sad for that family. It's terrible how immigrants are abused.
@WitchidWitchid2 жыл бұрын
Thats because the system still views them as entitled lords.
@poeticsilence0472 жыл бұрын
Always amazes me how even till this day companies still get a slap on the wrist due to negligence.
@aaronbennett39662 жыл бұрын
They should get their assets liquidated and split between the victims families
@opwave792 жыл бұрын
That’s because they lobby to fight regulations, throwing money to legislators to not pass any, or if they do, make it a watered down regulation.
@TBH_Inc2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbennett3966 it’s more that the management should get punished and replace with more oversight. I don’t think it’s realistic to shut down a company any time there’s an accident, we wouldn’t have many companies left. Shutting down a company hurts the employees and customers.
@5isalivegaming722 жыл бұрын
Government and corporations are the same damn thing unfortunately anymore
@alfadasfire2 жыл бұрын
Companies pay politicians. Politicians make the rules. And to appease the public there are some minor repercussions if something inevitably goes wrong. And yes it's gotten better, in most places. That's another reason big companies go to third world countries to place factories with little to no safety regulations. Long live capitalism. (still better than communism though)
@agarvin16872 жыл бұрын
One of the witnesses to the fire was Frances Perkins - she was so horrified by what she saw that day that she devoted her life to labor reform and she eventually became the 1st female Secretary of Labor and 1st ever female cabinet member under FDR - we have her to thank for Social Security
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is the first time I heard about her (I'm not American, or even North American). What an interesting individual. Thank you so much!
@Claymann71 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite facts about this human tragedy. This is _THE 1ST LESSON_ every aspiring Engineer is made to learn. *Never forget the Shirtwaist Fire.*
@johnfitbyfaithnet Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@miss-astronomikal-mcmxcvii19 күн бұрын
Yes, she called this day “the day the New Deal was born,” if I am not mistaken.
@sydposting2 жыл бұрын
What baffles (but does not surprise) me is the level of distrust and contempt from the employers, locking the doors to prevent theft... of what, fabric scraps? A completed shirt or two? It's such a small thing in comparison to all the lives lost, it's infuriating.
@kevinmartin25162 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, the owners are probably ripping off the pay packets of the workforce. These days the term is 'Wage Theft', which is exactly what it sounds like..
@nobodyspecial47022 жыл бұрын
Typical corporate mentality. I worked for General Dynamics making ships that had a starting price tag of half a billion dollars. Every day we had to pass through metal detectors as we left the yard because someone might have stolen a piece of scrap metal. That's corporate mentality at work. They consider the hourly employees nothing better than thieves.
@tc28652 жыл бұрын
Lots of retail establishments have rules regarding what type of jackets you can wear to work and where you need to keep them claiming that it's about uniform when we all know it's really about them being afraid of employee theft. Worked one place that scrounged our jacket pockets every day just to make sure. Meanwhile one fire escape had been frozen over with ice for months... did nothing about it until they got an anonymous call from an employee claiming they'd report them to OSHA. Better bet they had that fixed the next day!
@gnarthdarkanen74642 жыл бұрын
I've worked a lot of "on site contract" jobs... AND I always went by two rules regarding "theft" or whatever else you want to call it... 1. ALWAYS order (and budget) 15% MORE than your math says you'll need... 2. ALWAYS budget aside for about a 5 - 10% rate of theft... (just stuff "walking off" randomly) I started that budgeting from the Bid for a job, and as long as I could keep it competitive, I'd lean toward the 10% theft (outright) budget... We also scavenged everything we possibly could from the scrap DUMPSTERS... That protected my guys/gals because anything in those dumpsters IS "Public Domain"... AND unless the Police like to make their own lives VERY difficult, it's not going to change any time soon. We also cleaned the dumpster areas up every time we'd visit... Those little "exercises" allowed us to cover every job, and frequently let us come in well enough under-budget I could surprise a site-boss or land owner with the reduction in cost/price at his end. The worst kept secret on our crew was that as long as they kept it reasonably discrete, I didn't care much WHAT they took home instead of loading on the truck/trailer and stocked out in our "warehouse/bone yard"... Now... You figure at any of these manufacturing operations, the same math could (and should) apply. Instead of threatening workers' lives, just budget for and order 125% of what is required to meet deadlines and quotas, and as long as the stuff taken home isn't whole clothes or wardrobes or something ridiculous, you can even let the "Security Guards" lighten up and "play the game"... When someone's caught, just confiscate it with a conversation "You can't be walking out with that!"... wag the finger... and "See you tomorrow/monday... bright and early." (Indicating no report or firing needed since no harm done)... They'll get the idea and the DIY bits will keep most of them happy... Trust me... Happy workers who know they can "get away with a little extra perk once in a while" are generally and genuinely MORE productive than wage slaves treated like animals and tossed as soon as they're employed long enough for a pension payment or too expensive to justify on paper... When I had to ship out and leave the crew, they worried it was a budget thing, and everyone went to complain to management that they'd happily take half pay to keep me around... THAT right there should tell you something. ;o)
@stevetournay61032 жыл бұрын
Corporate greed and parsimony sure as Hell aren't new...
@goneutt2 жыл бұрын
I was in a thrift where they padlocked an exit and I told the manager about the Triangle factory. The place was a fire trap. They didn’t address my concern, so I called the fire Marshall. They put in an alarmed push bar. Then they chaired up the door again.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.2 жыл бұрын
And that's when you can the Fire Marshall again
@cheepymcpeepy2 жыл бұрын
I'd be such a nuisance on that...
@mindycatriz51952 жыл бұрын
Definitely make a call😾😾😾
@Archris172 жыл бұрын
Call the marshall again. Do not EVER stop making a fuss about things like this. YOU may not be harmed in your time working there, but if there's a disaster in the future, your actions could save lives! NEVER allow ANYONE to get away with this kind of maliciousness!
@sharonsomers2 жыл бұрын
If an employee had dropped the dime on them, they would have been fired in all likelihood.
@ForeverLaxx2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being found guilty of causing unneeded deaths by locking a fire escape, paying money for each person that died as a result, then going to a new company and doing *the exact same thing* there. He's lucky that instance never turned out worse than getting caught for it and paying a small fine. You can tell he had no regard for anyone but himself.
@VideoDotGoogleDotCom2 жыл бұрын
That is just psychopathic. I wish the family of the deceased had found out and locked him in a burning barn or something.
@TexasDragon2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure being tortured in hell for all eternity is making him reconsider his actions
@Holychickendinner7 ай бұрын
@@TexasDragonYes, I was going to say there's a special place in hell for a person like that.
@peterfaggella31202 жыл бұрын
My great grandmother was in this fire. All she remembers was that she woke up on the concrete, she always said that an angel saved her. I'm sure it was a firefighter, but regardless, she was one of the lucky ones. Thanks for covering this.
@mph1ish Жыл бұрын
Angels do exist though.
@tongpoo898510 ай бұрын
Firefighters, angels. Same thing to me.
@Jesse-xz7br4 ай бұрын
proof?
@peterfaggella31204 ай бұрын
@@Jesse-xz7br You don't have to believe me. I never met her. My grandma told me the story and I believe her. My great-grandparents immigrated from Italy to NYC ~8 years before this happened.
@vustvaleo80682 жыл бұрын
salute to the elevator operators trying to rescue the trapped people before their elevators stopped working.
@stevewhisperer66092 жыл бұрын
The owner of the company I work for, ( one that sews and assembles tactical equipment such as rifle slings, magazine and other types of pouches, trauma kits, plate carriers, etc, ) referenced this tragic incident at an impromptu safety discussion. He emphasized the need for safety and vigilance in everything we do on a daily basis in every part of our manufacturing facility so that something like this incident would never happen. Thank you FH for these stories! Don't change anything with the current format! It's perfect! Please keep 'em coming!
@mindycatriz51952 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a business owner who cares- and seemingly not only about $$, but his employees
@balthasargerard72462 жыл бұрын
Traject?
@stevewhisperer66092 жыл бұрын
@@balthasargerard7246 Whoops! Yes.. I screwed that one up! Thanks for catching that! Corrected now.
@Soul_Alpha2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cool company to work for, I'd apply real quick!
@348Tobico2 жыл бұрын
Bravo to your company managers for smart training.
@werdna19692 жыл бұрын
I always find the language used in this channel to be precise, neutral and, most importantly, respectful.
@Holychickendinner7 ай бұрын
I just wish these commenters (not you, of course) had more respectful language. Swearing just shows immaturity and lack of impulse control.
@_n1ght__sh4d3_4 ай бұрын
@@Holychickendinner Oooooo fuck ooooooooo shit
@Shicksalblume2 жыл бұрын
And this fire perfectly illustrates why we NEED industry regulation, and strong enforcement of those regulations.
@ingrid_inthesky2 жыл бұрын
Yea, and it's unfortunate that all regulations, standards and protocols are written in blood.
@tjenadonn61582 жыл бұрын
And UNIONS! Negotiate together or burn separately.
@georgemckenna4622 жыл бұрын
and why we NEED unions.
@je68742 жыл бұрын
@Ann-Marie Paliukenas they already have, ages ago… just look at the label of nearly every piece of clothing.
@KabbalahSherry2 жыл бұрын
Damn right we need industry regulations! No matter what these billionaire corporatists claim. They will never, EVER have any of our best interests at heart. 😒🔥 smh
@ticketyboo24562 жыл бұрын
Those poor women. It's heartening to know the women who survived were instrumental in improving worker's rights in the years that followed.
@classicmicroscopy93982 жыл бұрын
After seeing so many fire stories like this, I'm starting to think that any building labeled 'Fireproof' is in fact an inferno waiting to happen.
@dominikdylewicz35812 жыл бұрын
Building is fireproof, people inside it not.
@renerpho2 жыл бұрын
As is any ship that's labeled 'unsinkable'.
@benji2742 жыл бұрын
Facepalmed when the word ‘fireproof’ left his lips
@classicmicroscopy93982 жыл бұрын
@@dominikdylewicz3581 It wouldn't have spread if the building was fireproof. Lol.
@reversalmushroom2 жыл бұрын
@@dominikdylewicz3581 The buildings are clearly not fireproof.
@ralphcantrell32142 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating story. Thanks! 13:20 - "Of two available staircases, one had been locked by the foreman on duty as a precaution against theft by employees. This Foreman, incidentally, was among the first to leave the building down the other staircase, taking the key to the other stairwell door with him." I worked in the fire protection/life safety industry for 30 years, and as such, have read about and studied many of the deadliest fires in American history and abroad, including this one. I always used multiple sources and tried to learn as many obscure facts as possible. SO... why does history seem to grant this foreman anonymity, and why on Earth does it seem that he was apparently never held accountable in any way?
@Sophiedabombbaby2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! I understand the foreman perhaps being in a panic himself and forgetting about the key to the second door; but not remembering afterwards, or going back to open the door, or giving the key and directions to firefighters to open the door? Like seriously?! So many opportunities to do better and not one was taken?? The very least he could've done was not panic in the first place and opened the second door before understandably, fleeing. Perhaps it was drilled into him to never have the second door open by the owners? And thus, never occurred to him to have a door that's never should be opened, be opened in an emergency? Ridiculous he wasn't charged either for not doing a good job, nor is his name shared here at all, absolutely horrendous. He is just as much to blame for negligence as the owners for directly causing the death and window jumping and whatnot of the women/workers. SMH
@ralphcantrell32142 жыл бұрын
@@Sophiedabombbaby I guess it was just another era. In this day and age he would be abhorred by the public and charged with a serious crime. Thanks again to Fascinating Horror for a great video.
@joseph-fernando-piano2 жыл бұрын
@@ralphcantrell3214 Sad to say, but I doubt that would be the case today. Last year there were multiple incidents in the US where workers were forced to stay at their workplace buildings during tornado warnings, with several being killed when parts of the buildings collapsed. I have yet to hear names of those responsible, or any consequences they faced...
@AEMoreira812 жыл бұрын
It would be unthinkable today. However, back then, when the muckraking was just beginning, it was a different time. The building itself has been NYU's science building since 1929.
@CamAlert2 Жыл бұрын
Honestly sounds like he was conspiring. Is there a chance that maybe he was the one that lit the fire and quietly left the premises? This theory is supported by the fact that almost all of the workers were immigrants, some Jewish even.
@debbieanne79622 жыл бұрын
Despite living in Melbourne, Australia I remember well that the first video I ever watched on KZbin all those years ago was on the Triangle fire in New York. It really got to me. Poor very young women jumping from the building only to be impaled on fences below. The wicked supervisors and powers that be locking doors. Getting Away with murder. We should never forget
@sebastianjoseph28282 жыл бұрын
This tale is infamous, learning history in the US (Maryland), the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire is the classic example from we learn about to understand the impact of labor rights movements. Horrific. The only thing that I was shocked to learn in this video is that the building is still standing.
@neilkurzman49072 жыл бұрын
It was eight stories. Many died landing on the pavement.
@frankzeppelin2 жыл бұрын
There's someone in New York who annually goes to the former residences of all the victims and chalks a memorial message for them on the sidewalk. I always figured it was a personal effort, but now I'm guessing that it's actually by the Remember the Triangle Fire Coalition. Good video.
@gingercube6882 жыл бұрын
Always amazes me how quickly a fire can grow. Mere moments in the right (or wrong) conditions and it becomes an unquenchable beast
@magicmagic81882 жыл бұрын
This is one of the many stories that should remind us that companies will always prioritize profit over worker safety, and will only care about the latter if forced to
@EncounterswithStrangeness2 жыл бұрын
What an absolute nightmare, thank you for presenting this terrible event so respectfully. It's heartening to see that those lost on that terrible day are still remembered.
@samdancer1012 жыл бұрын
I'm from NY. I first learned about this disaster in 4th grade, and to this day I'm still disgusted by the owners negligence
@bartho52122 жыл бұрын
It is 5:23 in the morning. What better way to start my day but with the excellent narration and beautifully researched stories of Fascinating Horror.
@berner2 жыл бұрын
Joke's on you: It's currently 6:05 in the morning here for me!
@WangleLine2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@fwdthinker2 жыл бұрын
6:39 am for me. LOL!
@paulpaul46812 жыл бұрын
Its 8:49 pm where I am. Now shut up and go to work both of you 😂
@WouldntULikeToKnow.2 жыл бұрын
Good morning! Almost 1pm here in central Europe
@Ddrhl2 жыл бұрын
I remember my Mom relating the details of this disaster to me as a young child to emphasize why unions were so badly needed. Wouldn't it be lovely if the dollar was NOT the reason for being or doing?
@Archris172 жыл бұрын
These kinds of conditions and disasters are EXACTLY why unions are necessary. In better conditions, or when unions over-step their purpose to provide safety and security for the workers, or where they needlessly cripple the ability of companies to take necessary action against problem employees, there are arguments against them, certainly, but there MUST be a counter-balance to excessive corporate greed and negligence.
@willnill79462 жыл бұрын
Unions only care about your money 💰
@jgodwin7172 жыл бұрын
Amen good sir. Working for simply the common good of everyone and people able to use their talents accordingly, not on if you can afford to learn the trade, nor its pay. For the greater good.
@evil1by12 жыл бұрын
@@jgodwin717 yeah no. I do not give a flying fig about doing for the sake of doing. The things I enjoy do not pay and as such I require a reason beyond your need of my goods or services to act
@daemonsilver33042 жыл бұрын
Delightfully naive of you.
@blze00182 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone screams about government overreach in the form of OSHA and inspections, remember that disasters like this would be happily deemed "acceptable" by most companies if it meant slightly higher profits.
@seandelap85872 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately by the time they realised what was happening it was already too late for many of them not having a fire alarm in the building was the height of irresponsibly and ultimately ended up costing lots of lives.
@jhfdhgvnbjm752 жыл бұрын
True, though I wonder how common fire alarms were in general in 1911.
@basbleupeaunoire2 жыл бұрын
@@jhfdhgvnbjm75 They would use a bell or siren to alert people.
@nobodyspecial47022 жыл бұрын
@@jhfdhgvnbjm75 They didn't exist.
@nobodyspecial47022 жыл бұрын
@@basbleupeaunoire Sirens hadn't been invented in 1911 and bells don't carry sound through walls terribly well rendering them pointless. Word of mouth was the only alarm in use.
@BrecklynFast2 жыл бұрын
The height of irresponsibly is knowingly running out of a burning building with the only key to the only viable exit left. Pure cowardliness, and evil. The foreman and the owners are mass murderers who got away with it. The door never should have never been locked, disgusting greed murdered a lot of women and men.
@marshamoseley58782 жыл бұрын
A friend and I went to NYC for the 100th anniversary commemoration of this disaster. Volunteers from the Remember the Triangle Fire Coalition visit the addresses where the victims lived, and write the victims' names and ages in chalk on the pavement outside. A thoughtful and moving tribute.
@blackmesacake53612 жыл бұрын
"Fireproof" = "you can always hire more, as long as the building survives"
@snattlerake44172 жыл бұрын
First heard about this story in a book on disasters my English teacher read in class. This story always stuck out to me. I don't remember what the book was, but it also covered the Hindenburg, the San Francisco earthquake, and (I think) the St Francis Dam collapse.
@davecommentator2 жыл бұрын
If anyone knows what that book is called let me know, I'd love a copy!
@Aerolandaircraft2 жыл бұрын
Fact Finders, Core Events of a...
@melasnexperience2 жыл бұрын
When I first learned about this back in high school, it gave me nightmares about sitting at a machine and then catching fire. It's stuck with me ever since. Also, nothing now signifies that something is a death trap than insisting it's fireproof.
@mindycatriz51952 жыл бұрын
Kind of like saying the Titanic was unsinkable….
@aaronburratwood.69572 жыл бұрын
I was a painter for a long time and I’ve been atop 40 foot aluminum extension ladders a lot & I could NOT imagine a 60 foot wooden ladder the fire force used back than. Nerves of absolute iron.
@jamessimms4152 жыл бұрын
Should look up pictures when America was building the first dirigibles such as the Shenandoah or Macon. 100 or 200 feet up on wooden ladders is not something I’d want to do.
@aaronburratwood.69572 жыл бұрын
@@jamessimms415 OMG, I’ll have to see that. 😉👍🏽
@antman88452 жыл бұрын
There always seems to be a supervisor locking an exit out of concern for theft in all of the building fire disasters you cover, I'm starting to think it's a prerequisite!
@krisdikeman38792 жыл бұрын
My friend lives in a building on Bleecker street where a tenement once stood. Every March 25th, someone chalks a woman's name on the pavement outside the building. The woman lived in the tenement and died in the Triangle fire. My friend says someone goes all around the village writing down the victim's names outside of where they lived on that day. The building belongs to NYU now. One of the science departments is in that space now.
@nikkifennel2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen "Warehouse 13"? The premises is that shocking events make some objects get special powers and the main characters travel around gathering those objects and storing them at the title warehouse. The other day I saw an episode where they used a door knob from this factory that burned people to ashes... I like that series because you learn a lot of History and about interesting people. Greetings from Spain!
@dinascharnhorst65902 жыл бұрын
I loved that series!
@wirhannah2 жыл бұрын
I first came across this incident in Alice Hoffman's novel 'The Museum of Extraordinary Things', it's actually fairly significant to the plot.
@rebekahwolkiewicz4492 жыл бұрын
This story is like drilled into American children’s head through middle and high school. I can remember being taught about it at least three times throughout my school years, it’s that much of an important role in the union strike history teaching and the fight for better working condition/safety rules. Along with children’s rights, many were illegally employed there.
@skinnyjeans912 жыл бұрын
My schools definitely missed this one. I didn’t know about this until I listened to a podcast about it a few years ago
@RinaBloom2 жыл бұрын
lol my schools in northern Ohio certainly did NOT cover this. Since we were in the rust belt, our union coverage was more on the auto industry and even a little on the coal industry.
@LittleLulubee2 жыл бұрын
I never heard about this in school. Just randomly found a book about it, a few years ago.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28232 жыл бұрын
I knew about this because I'm a famous fire buff from way back. Not because of school. I've probably got 16 years of schooling and barely learned a damn thing from any of it. Lol.
@megmoo962 жыл бұрын
I’m from the U.S. and this was never drilled into my head. Hell, I don’t ever even remember them teaching about it. Maybe you live closer to the area it happened? Idk bc it’s definitely not taught at ALL schools. I do remember going over bad working conditions in general though, and worker strikes - but never this specific incident.
@alyssagrimes25212 жыл бұрын
I remember reading that witness’s account of people jumping, along with an excerpt from a historical fiction novel set in the fire, in an English textbook when I was in middle school and being extremely unsettled by it. What a horrific experience. It never ceases to anger me when I remember the owners were never properly held accountable for their actions
@the_once-and-future_king.2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the owners weren't subject to some NY street justice after the miserly punishment they received.
@marygoround129210 ай бұрын
This may have been right l before New York was, well, New York
@zuitsuit802 жыл бұрын
I grew up in NYC. I remember my father showing me the building and telling me this story when I went to work with him.
@AEMoreira812 жыл бұрын
Not long after, it became NYU's science building.
@wilfmarshall72992 жыл бұрын
Honestly the best content creator on KZbin
@dinascharnhorst65902 жыл бұрын
Students in the next building over--a part of the New York University--procured ladders and planks, which they then extended over to the burning building. It was because of their actions 50 workers lives were saved. Source: Triangle: the Fire That Changed America, by David von Drehle And excellent job as ever, FH. I look forward to your videos every Tuesday and Friday!
@robny2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing I wish it was included in the video
@MightyMezzo2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of videos on this fire, including an excellent “American Experience” documentary on PBS. Yours is a good one. Thank you.
@timsap512 жыл бұрын
As someone getting into the safety profession, your vids ha e been a huge inspiration in my journey and remind me why I do what I do
@adamk96522 жыл бұрын
This video brings back memories. Had to do a essay on this event for a college history final years ago. The part that is most chilling to me is that some of the fire hoses broke due to being in disrepair. It's a really tragic event that has a lasting impact on workplace saftey and fire codes.
@jtgd2 жыл бұрын
The benefits of regulations
@zurirobinson27492 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you cover this. This was one of the disasters that always stuck with me. I learned about it in history class when I was in 8th grade, and we had a mock "reenactment" of the trial against Max Blanc and Isaac Harris. I was one of two prosecution lawyers, the other being a two-faced mean girl, and my friend and my bully were the two defendants- so the mock trial was an awkward situation to begin with, and on top of the 8th grade stuff, there was the raw horror of what we were learning and the psychological impact that had on me (with an anxiety disorder and then-undiagnosed PTSD). While I was doing research to put my case together, I had recurring nightmares about being trapped in burning buildings. I even wrote a short story from the POV of the teenaged descendant of one of the victims, who had been traumatized by the details of her great-grandmother's death and was thus deathly afraid of fire. At school, I won the prosecution's case, but it was a brief celebration when my teacher then revealed what the outcome of the actual trial had been. Even 8 years later, it's hard to hear the details again, but at least we learned something from this as a society. Keep up the amazing work. Edit: I also live in NYC and had no idea that the building is part of NYU's campus. I was there on a tour as a prospective student around 5 years ago. Might have to take a trip down there at some point.
@sebastianjoseph28282 жыл бұрын
I visited the Baltimore Museum of Industry last month which has an industrial sewing exhibit much like the rooms in this disaster. One thing that impressed upon me, besides the cramped conditions and the flammable material everywhere, was that sewing machines of the era would have been incredibly loud. I can imagine that even with the panic on floor 8, floor 9 and 10 would have no way to hear the commotion and get an early warning until the smoke make itself apparent.
@Zipzap13132 жыл бұрын
Amazing content as always, Good Sir Thank you for your hard work and amazing videos ~💕💕💕 Stay safe and remember that you are loved and valued
@BTScriviner2 жыл бұрын
An prime example of how companies will *always* put profit above workers. That's why you need protections and regulations, despite the lies told to you by the corporate oligarchy.
@rouaneb66642 жыл бұрын
One of the particularly awful facts- some of those who jumped survived later on, but only because the bodies already on the ground cushioned their fall.
@ronriesinger775521 күн бұрын
My grandmother, born and raised in Manhattan, often commented on the fire which she remembered from childhood.
@sdraper20112 жыл бұрын
I love the follow-up you do, explaining what happened after the tragedy.
@ShinbiBelldandy2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for again telling this story. Every safety regulation is written in blood. I tell this to everyone that complains about having to wear safety gear or follow the rules. Those rules are there so you can walk home instead of being carried in a box.
@cherylnovak6012 жыл бұрын
I believe this fire was the reason they passed a law requiring buildings have doors that open outwards. Easier to evacuate in an emergency
@ridethasno2 жыл бұрын
2:15am here in Washington State USA. Sending love to whoever reads this. ❤️
@jonniemayhem2 жыл бұрын
4:17am here in San Antonio Tx
@IAMYOU-.2 жыл бұрын
4:19am here in Texas ❤️
@barrydysert29742 жыл бұрын
Right back at you from the Mother Load in the heart of the Sierra Nevada foothills in California !:-) 💜🙏⚡️
@danielthoman73242 жыл бұрын
@@barrydysert2974 I'm here from Indianapolis! 😉
@kaitlinodonnell59622 жыл бұрын
I was quite confused when KZbin labeled this as a new video, but I am so glad you remade it. Much cleaner sound mixing, more in depth investigation. I’d already seen the first version but this one was so good I watched it anyway. Great job!
@grapeshot2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when greed, no oversight and a complete lack of not caring for human life collide.
@GeorgeDamon Жыл бұрын
This is a terrific short presentation on that tragic fire. I recently read David von Drehle's outstanding book about the Triangle Fire, and this film does an excellent job covering the major events of the incident and its aftermath.
@jasper30422 жыл бұрын
The foreman was one of the first to leave, without unlocking the other stairwell and taking the key with him. He should have been charged along with the owners, and they all should have gone to jail. Heartbreaking story, but fortunately this one never quite got lost to history and resulted in tangible changes in labor practices. Great content, as always👍
@ronsledge66326 ай бұрын
A result of mob connections, I've heard. The fire was a result of the women attempting to unionize.
@chadhOneAtl2 жыл бұрын
I find it sad and appreciative that this channel will never run out of content to cover.
@FirstLast-vr7es2 жыл бұрын
Every time someone tries to make the claim that business "regulation" is a bad thing, I think of instances like this one. Some regulations are nonsensical, but some are there because people can't otherwise be expected to do the correct thing. Sorry to get political. I couldn't help myself this time.
@basbleupeaunoire2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that something as vital as safety can be a political football.
@nobodyspecial47022 жыл бұрын
Corporations want a regulation free environment to maximize their profits at the expense of literally everyone and everything around them.
@HideAndGeekGames2 жыл бұрын
Safety regulations are often written in blood.
@lovelight69732 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they still honor and remember them. I didn't know they did that. So I'm glad to hear that.
@chairmanm76862 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!! Hope you’re doing good Mr FH! Thank you for blessing our day!
@bellakagamine2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this tragedy every year in high school and just being blown away by the amount of negligence that employers used to get away with - then I grew up and realized that they STILL get away with that shit. This is one of the events that has always been so memorable to me after I learned about it. I'm glad you remade your video on it, and thank you for sharing!
@MsTokyoBlue2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering what may, sadly, be the quintessential labor safety story in history
@pixelapocrypha2 жыл бұрын
And just in case anyone was thinking 'well alarms didn't exist yet so it's not all on the company managers', you'd be wrong, the first electric fire alarm was invented twenty years before this incident. It just wasn't very popular because companies will often skip safety equipment if they're not required to have it.
@ChristieAdamsKangoo2 жыл бұрын
IIRC, the Beverly Hills Supper Club fire (also covered by FH) was made worse by the fact that the entire complex had no fire alarm...and that was decades after this. Without laws and regulations, greedy owners skimp on safety.
@jimrossi77082 жыл бұрын
As I have seen roughly a half dozen videos on this tragedy and most much longer I though it was well done and may the victims Rest In Peace !!
@anastasiabeaverhausen82202 жыл бұрын
One of the great tragic disasters and worst fires in u.s. history. Humans always seem to cut corners or paint themselves into a corner. Horrifying. Grim. The owners should have been tarred and feathered with very hot tar. To quote Norma Rae--Union, Union, Union! This is why there are unions, to insure workers are not virtually enslaved and risking their lives for a pittance while being physically abused. I love that you emphasize the safety precautions that usually come out of these terrible tragedies.
@affandi992 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work, FH! Amazing as usual!
@markmuldoon8052 жыл бұрын
As always, quietly and dispassionately described. The facts and just the facts. And so effective in describing tragic history. My thanks.
@henryrheeder23032 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most interesting events Im so happy you covered it!
@KillRacingNotHorses2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about this as a kid. What an utterly tragic and horrifying story. The eyewitness account made me cry! Thank you for another brilliant video.
@1961-v9k2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching a movie about this and never forgot it. I think it was called The Triangle Factory Fire Scandal and it was heartbreaking 😥 I recall the actor who was the dad in Happy Days was in it.
@lindafry80152 жыл бұрын
I saw this movie too. I remember Tovah Feldshuh being in it.
@artytoons2 жыл бұрын
It was a made for TV movie made in 1979 and aired on NBC when disaster movies with all star performer casts were popular in theatres....only this disaster movie was based on fact. Also in the cast were Stephanie Zimbalist (Remington Steele), David Dukes (played Edith Bunker's attempted rapist in All in the Family) , Tom Bosley (Happy Days), Ted Wass (Soap, Blossom), and Charlotte Rae.(The Facts of Life).
@beatepaul58142 жыл бұрын
Edward Asner („Lou Grant“) also was in that movie.
@sister_bertrille9112 жыл бұрын
The description written by Louis Waldman (a well-known labor lawyer, BTW) at 6:08 is poetic, evocative, and chilling. It's some of the best on-the-scene writing I've ever read. It paints a terrifying picture of what was a devastating event with an economy of words and images.
@AvyScottandFlower2 жыл бұрын
110 YEARS ago.. wow Those times feel way, way more distant, than they did in the 80s, or 90s.. *Forgot to mention.. as in, non-linearly/wavy
@GMW.artist2 жыл бұрын
That's because they are...
@renerpho2 жыл бұрын
@@GMW.artist It's funny how long ago the 90s feel by now.
@cannpdx7812 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always for a great channel. As a young woman I saw a made for tv film about this tragedy, I started reading everything I could about it, and at the time there wasn't much. Even today we see too many companies get a slap on the wrist for unsafe working conditions, as consumers we must stay informed and stand on the side of the workforce.
@AH-sp8vi2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, thank you.
@bigsarge87952 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this again. I think the worst part is knowing that people jumped to their deaths. That must have been horrible to witness.
@seandelap85872 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content you bring us.
@GalaticGarbage2 жыл бұрын
I remember being so invested in this tragedy when I did a book report on it in highschool. Thank you for covering this important yet horrific incident
@user-zs9ux1ru8u2 жыл бұрын
Oh goodness, I was anticipating this. Despite the disturbing event, I feel as this incident serves as a warni to factories to actually have concern for the lives of their workers. Thank you for doing this video!
@paddlefaster2 жыл бұрын
I'm a carpenter that does a lot of remodeling for other contractors. I took on an old Cotton Mill renovation back in the late 90s. I noticed that all the floor joists were notched where they went into the brick walls. I asked the foreman why they weakened the floor by notching the joists instead of having them going all the way into the brick. He told me it was done that way in case there was a fire. The floor would collapse but because the joists were notched around the brick the outer walls would remain intact, saving money during Reconstruction. Another example of how little people cared for the workers.
@thereisnosanctuary61842 жыл бұрын
I mean even if the brick walls fell I don't think that would behoove the workers. The greatest worker safety Abomination is when the US government allowed Saudi Arabians learn how to fly Jets into our buildings.
@paddlefaster2 жыл бұрын
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 er...ok. Btw you need to look up the definition of behoove.
@thereisnosanctuary61842 жыл бұрын
@@paddlefaster first thing tomorrow John. I will know the definition of the word behoove
@deletdis61732 жыл бұрын
Only OG Fascinating Horror fans will know that this video is a remake. 😏
@zakmyrr2 жыл бұрын
I've watched a couple of other versions of this tragedy and this one is the best. Thanks for taking the time to produce it.
@MusicoftheDamned2 жыл бұрын
Huh. Having known of this tragedy since high school, I'm only surprised that you hadn't managed to cover it earlier given its huge impact on workplace safety in America. This even with as crappy as workplace safety still was thereafter in too many places, as too many other tragedies you've covered can attest, especially the ones where people burned to death for very much the same reasons of greed and negligence with no one was ever really held to account. Nice to see some things never change. /s I hadn't heard of that witness account or the various ways which people tried to escape besides the stairs though, much less heard of the guy who managed to survive almost drowning in the basement. I was always under the impression all the victims were women too. So thanks for the detailed coverage as usual.
@interstellarsurfer2 жыл бұрын
He's Canadian - he probably learned about Moose mating rituals in high school. 🤷♂️
@alicekravets85842 жыл бұрын
He did cover it a long time ago, though! It has since been deleted or blocked, it seems. I remember that video, although I believe it didn't include the story about the man in the basement.
@mondenkindqueen2 жыл бұрын
He actually had covered it earlier, but it was taken down. This is a remake.
@tumautumn2 жыл бұрын
@@interstellarsurfer He's British?
@ticketyboo24562 жыл бұрын
@@interstellarsurfer I was under the impression that he was English because of his accent.
@thedevil97432 жыл бұрын
ive seen several youtubers cover this subject now and i still find it interesting to watch
@ligiization2 жыл бұрын
You have a very pleasant voice and narrate extremely well. If you ever narrate an audiobook i want to listen to it!
@LaffeeTaffeeGG2 жыл бұрын
1:38 The second woman from the top right is my spirit animal.
@barneystorer10922 жыл бұрын
Here we go again!
@AuraTale2 жыл бұрын
We're taught about this in school and how it was a turning point for workplace safety and women's rights... But school never taught us how graphic a fate and how horrible the damage was like you described. It's horrible how the two men who caused this negligence got away with a tremendous mass murder like this. May all these women always be remembered as wonderful people who were more than workers.
@BlighterProductions2 жыл бұрын
I came at the right moment. 11:16 am in good old Netherlands.
@baire7022 жыл бұрын
Very well done! I hope this one is allowed to remain on KZbin.
@celieboo2 жыл бұрын
This is why OSHA, unions, and regulation are so vitally important. At the rate society is decling these days in the US, child labor might soon be a thing again.
@ManDuderGuy2 жыл бұрын
Better they do something helpful than play games and eat tendies all day. There is a middleground to be found there I think.
@Bananacustardcostuming2 жыл бұрын
I make clothing daily at home and the description of the working conditions is exactly how I work every day, hot working conditions, paper and fabric everywhere, nothing changes!
@RuSrsbro2 жыл бұрын
Even as a smoker (I know it's gross) I never understood smoking inside ESPECIALLY in a factory/store setting. I'm glad it's gone the way of the dino, I'll happily smoke outside and away from buildings and others.
@edwardhackett86572 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing so; this is the quintessential FH documentary that needed to be included in, but was missing from, your repertoire.
@piadarragh1232 жыл бұрын
The best channel!!
@jeepliving1 Жыл бұрын
*_BREAKING NEWS_* After years of effort, the Remember the Triangle Fire Coalition on Wednesday is dedicating a new memorial that has no chance of being overlooked. A giant steel ribbon with the names of those who died in the disaster, predominantly women and girls, has been installed running horizontally from one corner of the building. Underneath it, a reflective panel shows the stenciled names as well as quotes from people who were there, describing the mayhem. In the coming weeks, a vertical steel column will be added to the corner to span almost the entire height of the building, a reference to how high up the victims were stuck. Only took 112 years.
@gray_mara2 жыл бұрын
As I recall, the owners escaped to the roof and from there, used a ladder to escape to the next building. Then they pulled the ladder behind them, trapping everyone else on the roof of the burning building.
@OzymandiasSaysHi2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's not true. For what possible reason would they do that?
@rafetizer2 жыл бұрын
@@OzymandiasSaysHi Ladders cost money
@gray_mara2 жыл бұрын
@@OzymandiasSaysHi I could well have misremembered. I don't want to destroy your faith in humanity. However, the owners were obsessive about stopping theft. Over the course of years, they had lost $25 worth of stock, and decided that it was worth the deaths of 146 workers, the youngest about 14, proved by the fact they did the same thing in their next factory and the next. These are men for whom compassion is not a motivating force. They were willing to let people die for the sake of a scrap of cotton. But let us hope they are not as bad as I recalled.
@JoMarieM2 жыл бұрын
On the positive side, I also heard a story about university students next door who extended a ladder to the roof of the burning building, allowing many of the woman who came up there to escape. I don't know if that's a true story, but I hope it is!
@ronsledge66326 ай бұрын
The owners didn't like the women workers campaigning for rights and likely set that fire themselves. It might just have been cold blooded premeditated murder
@lauramcgloin1112 жыл бұрын
It’s my understanding that many of these women had protested unsafe conditions before the fire happened and were ignored. They knew they’d be in trouble if a fire ever were to happen and no one cared until after they died.
@Bonniebluetours20102 жыл бұрын
Epilogue: one of the people in the crowd who saw those women die was Frances Perkins. Years later, FDR appointed her Secretary of Labor and she invented OSHA.
@michaeltaylor16032 жыл бұрын
I remember your documentary. In 1979 there was a made for TV documentary with Tom Bosley. I remember watching it and the sorrow I felt for those that perished. To THIS day this type of tragedy STILL occurs because of "fear" of theft. We as fans will always "stick" with you, for we must ALWAYS remember those unsung and accidental hero's plus those that paid with their lives that "change" for safety could occur.