The Trinity Controversy | Randy Skeete

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[@thejudgmenthour]

He is coming to us by His Holy Spirit today. Let us recognize Him now; then we shall recognize Him when He comes in the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. God calls upon you to get ready to meet Him in peace. . RH April 30, 1901, par. 8

[@vaio4908]

It greatly depends through which prism do you view those statements of EGW, to form a correct understanding of it. My question to you is, do you also read the context of the paragraphs you are posting, or do you just get them from some site that advocates anti- trinity? The paragraph you quote, is from a testimony given and refers to unity among believers. We are urged to be one as God is one. If God(head) is only one person, how are we to relate to that? But, if God(head) comprise more than one person, and is united and act as one person, then we can very well relate to. Moreover, in this paragraph Jesus is identified as GOD. I pasted this passage below. Who is the one who uttered the words spoken in Revelation 3:20 KJV: "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." ? It is Jesus, and EGW call Him God! Now, regarding the Holy Spirit, it is said that Jesus, after He ascended to heaven, could not be omnipresent because He gave up that attribute of God when He came to save us. But, that through the Holy Spirit that would be compensated. The Holy Spirit is ANOTHER comforter. If it was the same as Jesus, then would not have been ANOTHER. I also understand the confusion, when one reads "the Holy Spirit is Himself". But, one needs to read further and understand that this is the UNITY of God. Each member of the Godhead identifies with all others, that when you get to know one, you will get to know the others too. It is further specified that the Holy Spirit, is divested of the personality of humanity, and is independent thereof. Christ would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit,-as the Omnipresent. Jesus is not omnipresent, the Holy Spirit is. If the Holy Spirit was a part of Jesus, part of His body, then Jesus would have been omnipresent. "Christ would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit" - it says that He would represent Himself AS present, not that He Himself IS present. The Holy Spirit is His representative and not Christ Himself in person, bodily. "Let us at this meeting humble our hearts before God. Night after night since coming here, I have been unable to sleep past one o'clock. I have pleaded with God to enter among us, and work mightily upon hearts and minds. He is willing to do this. He declares, “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him.” If he does not enter, it is because the door is closed against Him. Shall we not let Him in, that we may enjoy a heavenly feast with a heavenly Guest? God grant that at this meeting you may so consecrate yourselves to His service that you may go forth as did the disciples, bearing the message with such power from on high that thousands will be converted. RH April 30, 1901, par. 7 “Get ready,” is the word sounded in my ears. “Get ready, get ready. He that is to come, will come and will not tarry. Tell my people that unless they improve the sacred opportunities given them, unless they do the work I have given them, Satan will come upon them with the stealthy tread of a thief, to deceive and allure them.” God wants us to be wide awake, that when He shall come, we shall be ready to say, “Lo, this is our God; we have waited for Him, and He will save us.” He is coming to us by His Holy Spirit today. Let us recognize Him now; then we shall recognize Him when He comes in the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. God calls upon you to get ready to meet Him in peace." RH April 30, 1901, par. 8 "Although our Lord ascended from earth to heaven, the Holy Spirit was appointed as His representative among men. “If ye love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not,, neither knoweth Him; but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless.” Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His Father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself, divested of the personality of humanity, and independent thereof. Christ would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit,-as the Omnipresent." PrT May 30, 1895, par. 7

[@larrybedouin2921]

Anti-trinitarian is the spirit of division and a malfeasance in the body of Christ.

[@thejudgmenthour]

and the Holy Spirit is the Comforter, as the personal presence of Christ to the soul.. 16LtMs, Ms 143, 1901, par. 34

[@iskaykabeya609]

Jesus is also a personal presence of the father. That doesn't mean Jesus is the father.

[@macbridedaka9998]

Off course Jesus was their comforter and the Holy spirit was another comforter

[@user-bo5ft3yh3o]

Many Adventist make this blasphemous mistake of denying the bible and quoting SOP . Egw white statements must always be in line with the bible and not the other way around. When Jesus speaks every single prophet must keep quiet. The trinity of course is not biblical. But to deny a very explicit statement of Christ concerning the Holy Spirit so that one can believe the pioneers is just insane . When he the spirit of truth comes he will convict men of sin of righteousness and of judgement. Ananias is condemned for lying to the Holy Spirit. Let’s not make idols of other men and be like the Jews of old who said they were the followers of Abraham and Moses and denied Christ . Our message is the 3 angels not the dissection of the Godhead

[@thejudgmenthour]

There is no comforter like Christ, so tender and so true. He is touched with the feeling of our infirmities. His Spirit speaks to the heart. Circumstances may separate us from our friends; the broad, restless ocean may roll between us and them. Though their sincere friendship may still exist, they may be unable to demonstrate it by doing for us that which would be gratefully received. But no circumstances, no distance, can separate us from the heavenly Comforter. Wherever we are, wherever we may go, he is always there, one given in Christ's place, to act in his stead. He is always at our right hand, to speak soothing, gentle words; to support, sustain, uphold, and cheer. The influence of the Holy Spirit is the life of Christ in the soul. This Spirit works in and through every one who receives Christ. Those who know the indwelling of this Spirit reveal its fruit,-love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith.. RH October 26, 1897, par. 15

[@lifeboundtours712]

The multitude of your attempted opposition to Pastor Skeete's presentation demonstrates the efficacy of his Biblical arguments!

[@AceInThePines]

Agreed. The influence of The Holy Spirit is the life of Christ to all believers that desire to live like Him. He influences the fallen human nature live as Christ did. The Spirit did not become human nor die at the cross, so to believe it’s the actual life of Christ is not spiritually discerning spiritual things. The Father, Son, and Spirit are ONE in purpose and Eternal.

[@keithphillip8403]

The sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit does not lie in any sudden word or deed; it is the firm, determined resistance of truth and evidence. FLB 58.4

[@AMAZINGFactsStrangerThingsTRYN]

So shameful that pastor Randy skeete don't know this?

[@rahtherose98]

@@AMAZINGFactsStrangerThingsTRYN I believe Pastor Randy Skeete's point is a continued entertainment of the idea that the Holy Spirit is not God ultimately leads to blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

[@newrez2391]

Just because a pastor is loud doesn’t mean he knows everything. Pastor Rendy is one of those who are yet to be possessed by the Holy Spirit in order to teach the truth about the Kingdom. I am afraid he is touching on this sensitive topic without understanding but to further confuse the church.

[@tangajonathan2643]

Pastor Randy didn't say that, I was also listening, he was showing us that there is another person, the Holy Spirit,

[@iskaykabeya609]

​@@AMAZINGFactsStrangerThingsTRYNyou know nothing. The holy Spirit is a person. You can whatever you want

[@thejudgmenthour]

The reason why the churches are weak and sickly and ready to die, is that the enemy has brought influences of a discouraging nature to bear upon trembling souls. He has sought to shut Jesus from their view as the Comforter, as one who reproves, who warns, who admonishes them, saying, “This is the way, walk ye in it.” Christ has all power in heaven and in earth, and he can strengthen the wavering, and set right the erring. He can inspire with confidence, with hope in God; and confidence in God always results in creating confidence in one another.. RH August 26, 1890, par. 10

[@user-pb7ee4tk3q]

Jesus has a Lord God His Father. God poured out His Spirit on His Son.

[@thejudgmenthour]

John 14:18 KJV - I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

[@maxudi]

Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thess. 4:17,18

[@mimijuneau5187]

YES IT IS JESUS BY HIS SPIRIT NOT A THIRD PERSON TRINITY IS A CATHOLIC TEACHING

[@peterwilliams843]

​@@mimijuneau5187amen!

[@iskaykabeya609]

​@@mimijuneau51871 John 5:7 There's Godhead in the Bible. Holy Spirit is a person.

[@beaelleess3892]

@@iskaykabeya609 look Into this verse some more… it is called the Johannine comma Older versions also read: The text (with the Comma in square brackets) in the King James Bible reads: 7For there are three that beare record [in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.] 8[And there are three that beare witnesse in earth], the Spirit, and the Water, and the Blood, and these three agree in one. - King James Version (1611

[@stellamokaya6861]

Hi pastor Randy, Please pray for me and my child we are in difficult situation I believe with God everything is possible. Watching online from Denmark

[@Isaac-Kusi]

May God grant u your heart desires in the name of Jesus Christ

[@theophilusbrightpiedu3029]

Christ is with you 🙏🏾

[@gnanampaulraj5870]

No other denomination preachers can explain this topic like our preachers

[@edwardabrahams2353]

Dear Father, Please fill Thy servant with Thy Holy Spirit and may Thy Will be done in this person's life and his or her child's life. Lord You Alone Know what is making him or her so anxious. Please send Thy angels who excel in strength to protect and guard them from All harm and danger. Please Intervene in this situation Dear Lord. We plead on his or her behalf. May Thy Will be done in Jesus Name. Amen.

[@supenskylesko]

I'm lifting you and your child in prayer!!! 🙏❤️🫂 These texts have helped me in difficult times: "Don’t be afraid, for I am with you. Don’t be discouraged, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you. I will hold you up with my victorious right hand.... For I hold you by your right hand- I, the Lord your God. And I say to you, ‘Don’t be afraid. I am here to help you.'" [Isaiah 41:10 and 13]

[@TipsbyThomas]

Sun-day is Satan's counterfeit for the true Sabbath and the Trinity doctrine is Satan's counterfeit for the Godhead. “As fundamental errors, we might class with this counterfeit sabbath other errors which Protestants have brought away from the Catholic church, such as sprinkling for baptism, the trinity,” - (J.S. White, RH, September 12, 1854, p. 36)

[@thejudgmenthour]

As by faith we look to Jesus, our faith pierces the shadow, and we adore God for His wondrous love in giving Jesus the Comforter.. 19MR 297.3

[@kelvinmusangi1925]

Jesus says another comforter

[@newrez2391]

@@kelvinmusangi1925another of a kind. Jesus was physically with the disciples. He was come by His invisible Spirit and abide in them. We can see the Holy Spirit with our eyes today but He lives in believers. That’s the another Jesus was referring to. It is Himself or his life and character living in Us.

[@NkosiphililePNgcamu]

We are never told anywhere that only Jesus can comfort. He says 'another' Comforter, which means that He recognized Himself as a Comforter but another one was to come which is the Holy Spirit.

[@thejudgmenthour]

Never before have the angels listened to such a prayer. They are eager to bear to their loved Commander a message of assurance and comfort. But no; the Father Himself will answer the petition of His Son. Direct from the throne issue the beams of His glory. The heavens are opened, and upon the Saviour's head descends a dovelike form of purest light,-fit emblem of Him, the meek and lowly One. . DA 111.6-DA 112.1

[@DonjohnsonBG]

Amen, for some reason they simply read over that quote and not put emphasis on the Spirit being from the Father

[@beaelleess3892]

Amen 🙏

[@thejudgmenthour]

Now the giving of the Holy Spirit is the giving of Christ, and the presence of the Holy Spirit is the presence of Christ in us, and the power of the Holy Spirit is the power of Christ in us, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the indwelling of Christ in us, for the Holy Spirit is Christ’s actual representative. . GCB December 1895, page 632.4

[@Colin-to1nv]

That says it as it is, indeed: which Elder Randy enunciated, too.

[@mimijuneau5187]

AMEN IMMANUEL GOD WITH US IS JESUS NOT A THIRD PERSON

[@iskaykabeya609]

And Christ says that he who sees the son have the father. That doesn't mean that Jesus is the father

[@hilmerclintcarolus9198]

In giving His Son, God gave Himself that man might have another trial... But because His law was as changeless as His character, He gave His beloved Son, who was above law, and one with Himself, to meet the penalty which His justice demanded. BEcho February 8, 1897, par. 3 This doesn't mean the Father is Jesus.

[@tshibambeemmanuel5323]

Amen! Bless you.

[@thejudgmenthour]

Let them study the seventeenth of John, and learn how to pray and how to live the prayer of Christ. He is the comforter. He will abide in their hearts, making their joy full. His words will be to them as the bread of life, and in the strength thus gained they will be enabled to develop characters that will be an honor to God. Perfect Christian fellowship will exist among them. There will be seen in their lives the fruit that always appears as the result of obedience to the truth.. 5MR 364.4

[@lucianacleaningservices2229]

Amen 🙏

[@thejudgmenthour]

This refers to the omnipresence of the Spirit of Christ, called the Comforter. Again Jesus says, “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth is come, He will guide you into all truth” [John 16:12, 13].. 14MR 179.2

[@wahiidstube]

Nah. He clearly says “the spirit of truth” which is “that prophet” yet to come mentioned in John 1:21. That would be Muhammad whom the Messiah describes in detail.

[@joshuajackson-ly3sc]

​@@wahiidstubeif it were mohammad he would not contradict jesus teachings and attributes abide with character

[@wahiidstube]

@@joshuajackson-ly3sc He doesn’t. What are you talking about? Jesus is glorified in Quran and mentioned more than any other prophet.

[@joshuajackson-ly3sc]

@@wahiidstube He is the ONLY WAY

[@janieferguson9754]

​@@wahiidstubeMohammad???? Mohammed is dead, your god is dead, who is going to save you?

[@thejudgmenthour]

2 Corinthians 3:17 KJV - Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 1 Corinthians 15:45 KJV - And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

[@menggetarkanjiwa6927]

I think Randy Skeete teaching is not biblical because he teach as if Christ is a lower GOD than the FATHER. But, actually it was unblibical Philippians 2:5-7 King James Version "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" I think general conference needs to advise Randy Skeete.

[@jancalvinteodoro4214]

@@menggetarkanjiwa6927 I think you didn't watched the video first. he quoted more than 90% from the Bible, he only quoted 1EGW writing.

[@menggetarkanjiwa6927]

@@jancalvinteodoro4214 There are no greater authority than the authority of Jesus in heaven Even in all of the universe, there are no Only equal authority exists You want me to give you the verse?

[@jancalvinteodoro4214]

@@menggetarkanjiwa6927 you said pastor Skeete is unbiblical, but he is just using the Bible. I have nothing to do with authority, I never mentioned that.

[@menggetarkanjiwa6927]

​@@jancalvinteodoro4214 Don't forget, satan is also quoting the bible with its own interpretation I don't say that randy is satan

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

@the 3:55 mark Pastor Skeete gives his interpretation of Luke 4:18. As recorded 'The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted'. So as the text reads He...the Lord, anointed Jesus and sent him to heal. The Lord...being his Father SENT his Son [as it says in so many verses] and How did His Father do it? By anointing the Son with his own spirit. Yes...the Father's Spirit. Unbeknownst to Pastor Skeete, he vindicates this plain truth with the following text of Act 10:38 of which he gets the audience to read. 'God anointed Jesus' Acts 10:38 The Pastor then quotes 1 Cor 2:10 -11 and repeats his postulation that the Spirit is a third person, even though the passage read states that it is 'his Spirit' and in verse 11 Paul explains and correlates the Spirit of God in relation to mans own spirit. 'Save the spirit of man which is in him'. Hence God's spirit belongs to him, just as mans spirit belongs to him. The Pastor Skeete gives reference to Matt 11:29 'No one knows the Son but the Father'. Does not this verse cripple his argument?

[@ananymousjesse6610]

So your understanding is that Christ personified the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ as the Holy Ghost, not as a third person. But yet God is a spirit, and they that worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. Is it logical that Christ would describe His own spirit as being separate from Himself? And also if He was describing the Spirit as God the father, He couldn’t have simply said God the father? I almost got confused myself just writing that. God is not a God of confusion.

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

Yes...what you did just write does have an element of confusion. Is that your philosophy? As you can tell it is quite dissimilar to what I wrote [did you read what I wrote?] And yet the epitome of confusion is? That the Spirit OF God is portrayed by Skeete as 'god the spirit' Thank God I have been rescued from this 'tradition of men'.@@ananymousjesse6610

[@Colin-to1nv]

Yes, the spiritual agency of God and of Christ is the Holy Spirit, as he explained. So we have three persons, the Spirit being the spiritual personality of God and of Christ, divinely unique: yet, only two divine beings. The Holy Spirit is our only spiritual link with Jesus: without Jesus' spiritual connection with us, i.e. his Spirit, there is no forgiveness. Now we must establish only Jesus' Sonship of God in "the days of eternity" (Mic 5:2b, marg.), who was the Word of God in the beginning. Without his Sonship Jesus' personal divinity has no Biblical basis. Ellen White and our church confirms this till behond her life time.

[@marysmith861]

@marysmith861 0 seconds ago 1 John 5:7 “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” You will find this in th King James Version. Jesus called the Holy Spirit "He" ..a reference to a person. No need to get it confused. They work in tandem.

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

The bread of life is also a 'he'. John 6:33 The Son of man is also a 'he'. Matt 25:31 Are they also other persons?@@marysmith861

[@robertgitonga4321]

To me, the bone of contention is not the existence of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and their unity of purpose. My question is, can each of them in their individual capacity be referred to as God? and if we refer to them as God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, aren't we essentially claiming that there are 3 Gods?

[@BushGuy-tb1pg]

Zechariah 6 v 12,13

[@BushGuy-tb1pg]

1 cor 8 v 6, john 17 v 3❤

[@bt7250]

YES!!

[@robertgitonga4321]

@@bt7250 Yes to what? Kindly elaborate.

[@bt7250]

The three terms You reference in Your post clearly indicate exactly what they say: "three god's". GOD The Father is a quite clear and Biblical and SOP term. Although Jesus is clearly and absolutely and completely divine, He is NEVER referenced as 'God the son' in either The Word nor SOP and most importantly Jesus Himself never took that title to Himself. He did acknowledge Himself as The Son of GOD and the son of man. the trinitarian term 'god the son' carries a completely different meaning than 'Son of GOD". Is Jesus the "Mighty God" or the "Almighty GOD"? Mark 5:7 is a most clear telling that, apparently, even demon's understood. OTG! & OTS!

[@lucianacleaningservices2229]

Lord help our church to Wake up And study your words so they are not deceived!😊

[@thejudgmenthour]

I have received yours dated June 3. In this letter you speak in these words: “Elder Robinson does not wish me to leave, but urges that I enter the canvassing field until such time as the conference can afford to employ me in some other capacity, but states positively that I cannot be sent out to present the truth to others until some points held by me are changed or modified in order that the views regarded by us as a people should be properly set forth. He quotes as a sample, ‘My idea in reference to the Holy Ghost's not being the Spirit of God, which is Christ, but the angel Gabriel, and my belief that the 144,000 will be Jews who will acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah. On all fundamental points I am in perfect harmony with our people; but when I try to show what seems to me to be new light on the truth, those in authority, none of whom have seemingly ever made a personal investigation of the matter, refuse to look into the Bible, but brand me as a fellow with queer ideas of the Bible.’” . 14MR 175.1

[@thejudgmenthour]

Joy in the Holy Spirit is health-giving, life-giving joy. In giving us His Spirit, God gives us Himself, making Himself a fountain of divine influences, to give health and life to the world.. 7T 273.1

[@TipsbyThomas]

Most of the founders of Seventh-Day Adventism would not be able to join the church today if they had to subscribe to the denominations Fundamental Beliefs. More specifically, most would not be able to agree to belief number 2, which deals with the doctrine of the Trinity.” - George Knight, Ministry Magazine, October 1993

[@beaelleess3892]

Thanks for this - I have read it but was unsure where to find it.

[@thejudgmenthour]

Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,-the soul of his life, the efficacy of his church, the light and life of the world. With his Spirit Christ sends a reconciling influence and a power that takes away sin.. RH May 19, 1904, par. 1

[@se9355]

He also says I will not leave you comfortless . I will come to you. John 14:18 therefore, the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit

[@Jonathan_Joshua]

I see that you have shared quite some quotes that come down in essence to the point that the Holy Spirit is Christ’s Spirit. Given the title of the video, I assume that your intention with these quotes is to disprove the personhood of the Holy Spirit. First of all, since many anti-Trinitarian seem ignorant on this point: that the Holy Spirit goes forth from the Father and the Son (as their Spirit) is one of the oldest Trinitarian teachings. The Nicene Creed (the one after the council where the doctrine of the trinity was most importantly established in the church) literally states: “We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son.” Second, that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of the Father and the Son does not exclude the interpretation that He is a Person, and more than a force. When people saw Jesus, they saw the Father, but they are still two different persons. Similarly, that when we feel the presence of the Spirit we feel the presence of Christ does not exclude that the Spirit is an individual person. The 1898 first edition of the The Desire of Ages states: “sin could be resisted and overcome onlythrough the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead,who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullnessof divine power.” The quotes that you attached do not contradict this. God’s bless!

[@markclarke1602]

​@@Jonathan_JoshuaAmen!

[@saviourjoel]

​​@@se9355 John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

[@thejudgmenthour]

We shall then consider that the guidance of Christ is indispensable and exceedingly precious. Through the gift of the Holy Spirit, when the personal presence of Christ was removed, the disciples realized no break in their communion, and no diminution of power because of His absence. Through the Holy Spirit, greater efficiency and power was imparted to them, because Jesus was their Advocate in heaven. His intercession before the Father availed for them more than did His personal presence with them when compassed with the impediments of humanity. . 10LtMs, Ms 42, 1895, par. 4

[@lucianacleaningservices2229]

Amen 🙏

[@lifeboundtours712]

This quotation clearly presents three divine persons of the Godhead

[@carolhyde2413]

@@lifeboundtours712it may seem that way to someone who does not acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the ONLY BEING in the universe that possesses TWO natures human and divine. May our eyes be anointed with heavenly eyesalve. God bless you!

[@thejudgmenthour]

But let us read the scripture further: “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness.” By reading that verse carefully, it becomes evident that the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, and Christ are made identical. When the Spirit of God dwells in us, that is the Spirit of Christ, it is Christ himself in us. “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal [death-doomed] bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.” As that Spirit gave life to Christ who was dead, so that Spirit coming upon us, will quicken us and give us new life, and raise us up to sit in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. “Therefore brethren [observe the conclusion], we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh ye shall die, but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” That is to say, the Holy Spirit, Christ dwelling in us, is to be the power that overcomes these evil traits, these evil habits in us, and puts to death these deeds of the body. . GCB December 1895, page 635.2-GCB December 1895, page 635.3

[@thejudgmenthour]

The Holy Spirit is constantly at work, teaching, reminding, testifying, coming to the soul as a divine Comforter, and convincing of sin as an appointed Judge and Guide. Christ was the Spirit of truth. The world would not listen to His pleadings. They would not accept Him as their guide. They could not discern unseen things; spiritual things were unknown to them. But His disciples see in Him the Way, the Truth, and the Life. And they shall have His abiding presence. 12LtMs, Ms 44, 1897, par. 7-12LtMs, Ms 44, 1897, par. 8

[@thejudgmenthour]

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ, which is sent to all men to give them sufficiency, that through His grace we might be complete in Him. The Lord has provided that we should always be under the teaching and influence of the Holy Spirit. We shall then discover that the law of God is holy, just, and good, and we would learn to delight in the law of God. We love the requirements of the law, and from our hearts render obedience to its requirements.. 14MR 84.3

[@marysmith861]

I think one reason that some things are misunderstood is because this is not saying they are one and the same. The Holy Spirit "hears" and tells what it "hears". And in that way it expresses the spirit or, "essence" of Christ. Ellen Whites words can be hard to understand at times.

[@thejudgmenthour]

John 5:37 KJV - And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

[@tmt9794]

Yes no one has seen the Father except Jesus. All those teaching that there are people already in heaven is teaching a doctrine contrary to the Word of God.

[@chibanintendo2385]

Thank you so very much for the beautiful explanations. God bless 😊🙏

[@angehermanagou1471]

Brilliant... awesome and amazing explanation... I love that !!!

[@2CBNTV]

Glad you liked it!

[@bt7250]

Then You love being deceived!

[@thejudgmenthour]

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing; the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” Christ is not here referring to his doctrine, but to his person, the divinity of his character.. RH April 5, 1906, par. 12

[@77Overcomers]

The whole book Revelation talks about God Father and Jesus Christ, Son. John 17 also talks about just God the Father and Jesus His Son. If there is another god, the third god, why it is totally missing in the book Revelation and John 17?

[@garikayiwamambo]

Rev1:10-in Spirit,Rev2:7,11,1729,Rev3:6,13,22Spirit speaks to church.Rev4:2,5-in spirit/7spirits of God. Just a few examples of the presence of the holy spirit.

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

Yet none of your supplied texts speak of a third person. They all speak of the spirit of which?... belongs to God. You fail to give answer to the question of @roses6181.@@garikayiwamambo

[@TheGraceRace.]

@@canadiancontrarian3668 The Spirit of God is God. Not to be snarky but did you even finish the video?

[@TheGraceRace.]

Isaiah 48:11-17, Zechariah 2:8-13 and Zechariah 12:10, God is talking about Him self in third person as a nothing Person. Ex: “The LORD God and His Spirit has sent Me” and “There is no Savior besides Me”. John 8:24 “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” In John 18:4-9, Jesus tells the soldiers that came to arrest Him “I am He”, which could be a reference to Deuteronomy 32:39 and many other scriptures where Jesus to be the “I Am” of the Old Testament(Exodus 3:4-7/3:13-14 and John 8:58-59)

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

I do not sense 'snarky' in you, although your interjection is somewhat beyond me in that, How is a response to the comment of roses have any association with the video? Is it a prerequisite? So then... I must watch the video in full before I can give a agreeable reply to another?@@TheGraceRace.

[@thejudgmenthour]

When trials overshadow the soul, remember the words of Christ, remember that He is an unseen presence in the person of the Holy Spirit, and He will be the peace and comfort given you, manifesting to you that He is with you, the Sun of Righteousness, chasing away your darkness. “If a man love me,” Christ said, “he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” Be of good cheer; light will come, and your soul will rejoice greatly in the Lord.. DG 185.2

[@lizyrobert6426]

Amen,the comforter is Jesus Christ

[@beaelleess3892]

Amen 🙏

[@user-sw5mv1is4j]

KJV John 14:16-18 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

[@menggetarkanjiwa6927]

I think Randy Skeete teaching is not biblical because he teach as if Christ is a lower GOD than the FATHER. But, actually it was unblibical Philippians 2:5-7 King James Version "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" I think general conference needs to advise Randy Skeete.

[@thejudgmenthour]

-The Saviour is our Comforter. This I have proved Him to be. I do not understand why I am so afflicted. At first I tried to reason out why I did not have strength to bear my testimony to the people in this country. But I try no longer..... 8MR 49.3

[@justuskumungamurimi3198]

The Father is a comforter as well (Psalms 23), Jesus calls the Holy Spirit another comforter (John 14) I believe the full Godhead comforts us. The quote above is not trying to tackle the topic of the Godhead. God in His fullness is working for our salvation. They are one in purpose and character and substance

[@hgpsale7605]

@@justuskumungamurimi3198 Jesus said if you see me you see the father...therefore Jesus is the comforter send by God...God can not be the comforter because He is in heaven... the Holy Spirit replace Jesus on this earth and he is the comforter Jesus talked about..

[@AMAZINGFactsStrangerThingsTRYN]

3.pastor Randy skeete confuses the identity of the spirit at baptism. The holy Spirit can work independently yet it proceeds from God and Christ. His identity and personality at baptism is as the glory of God and not a different individual being. Never before had angels listened to such a prayer as Christ offered at his baptism, and they were solicitous to be the bearers of the message from the Father to his Son. But, no; direct from the Father issues the light of his glory. The heavens were opened, and beams of glory rested upon the Son of God, and assumed the form of a dove, in appearance like burnished gold. The dove-like form was emblematical of the meekness and gentleness of Christ. 2SP60.2 The holy Spirit is the glory of God and Christ. Though God and Christ are not an omnipresence. Their omnipresence is not a different individual from them. Its their own manifestation The Holy Spirit is a free, working, independent agency. *The God of heaven uses His Spirit as it pleases Him*; and human minds, human judgment, and human methods can no more set boundaries to its working, or prescribe the channel through which it shall operate, than they can say to the wind, “I bid you to blow in a certain direction, and to conduct yourself in such and such a manner.” 70The Signs of the Times, March 8, 1910.

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

AMEN.

[@thejudgmenthour]

Where do we get that mind? [Congregation: “In Christ.”] Then is it possible for any man, by any possible means, to render to the ten commandments what they require and what only they will accept, without having the mind of Jesus Christ itself? [Congregation: “No, sir.”] Well, can I have the mind of Christ without the rest of Him? No, I cannot. Therefore as I cannot have the mind of Christ without the rest of Him, it follows that I must have the personal presence of Christ Himself. What is it that brings to you and me the personal presence of Jesus Christ? The Spirit of God. Turn to two texts, one in John and one in Ephesians, and I think that will be all we will have time to read tonight. John 14:18, “I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you.” He does not leave us comfortless, that is without a comforter. So He says, I will come to you, but when He comes to us thus, we are not without a Comforter. Then He does come to us by the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost.. GCB/GCDB 1893, page 245.5-GCB/GCDB 1893, page 245.6

[@franciscolozada3774]

The trinity is the most importan doctrine of catholic church. Cathequesis chap 2, number 234. The piooners were antitrinitarios.

[@jancalvinteodoro4214]

MrsWhite is not antitrinitarian. the trinity of adventist is a biblical trinity, it is very different in catholic trinity, God the father, God the Son, & God the Holy Spirit. and the holy spirit is sent only by Father & Son, like Father sent the Son. The Eternal Dignitaries of the Trinity-The eternal heavenly dignitaries-God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit-arming them [the disciples] with more than mortal energy, ... would advance with them to the work and convince the world of sin.-Manuscript 130, 1901. Evangelism pp.616.4

[@franciscolozada3774]

@@jancalvinteodoro4214 the book of evangelism was wrote by Leroy E Fromm not by EGW, my brother the origen of trininity is the nicea concilius 325 b.C is not biblical doctrine. Revelation 5:13 only worship the Father and the son.

[@jancalvinteodoro4214]

@@franciscolozada3774 FYI, it is quoted from manuscript 130. early pioneers may be antitrinitarian but not EGW. until her death she's quoting heavenly trio, 3 great powers, etc. The Comforter that Christ promised to send after He ascended to heaven is the Spirit in all the fullness of the Godhead, making manifest the power of divine grace to all who receive and believe in Christ as a personal Saviour. There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit-those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized and these powers will cooperate with the obedient. in Heavenly Places pp.336.2

[@jancalvinteodoro4214]

@@franciscolozada3774 your doctrine is catholic, worship the 2, father & son. but in SDA trinity, & biblical trinity. the Father, Son & Holy Ghost is One "ELOHIM". just like married couple will be One. the 3rd Person of the Godhead or trinity is the Holy Spirit. In describing to His disciples the office work of the Holy Spirit, Jesus sought to inspire them with the joy and hope that inspired His own heart. He rejoiced because of the abundant help He had provided for His church. The Holy Spirit was the highest of all gifts that He could solicit from His Father for the exaltation of His people. The Spirit was to be given as a regenerating agent, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail. The power of evil had been strengthening for centuries, and the submission of men to this satanic captivity was amazing. Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power. It is the Spirit that makes effectual what has been wrought out by the world's Redeemer. It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given His Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress His own character upon His church. Desire of Ages pp.671.2

[@beaelleess3892]

@@jancalvinteodoro4214 you are mistaken, she remained anti trinitarian, she came out of trinitarianism, she would have spoken more openly about it if she changed her position back, but while she was alive the majority of Adventists were non trinitarian… so just like in the new testament you will not find a great sermon on how important the Sabbath is - because they were already doing that, in-fact not even carrying a handkerchief… so no sermon was needed …. You need to look deeply into the Dr Kellogg debacle, she spoke harshly to him about his beliefs IN THE TRINITY.

[@ElijahAndMoses]

THE SECOND COMMANDMENT, THE TRINITY AND THE OMNIPRESENCE OF GOD I always wondered what was so significant about the second Commandment that Rome found it necessary to remove it altogether from the Ten Commandments. But it appears that there is a fundamental truth in that Commandment concerning where God's presence is that is intended to protect us from all forms of false worship. The second Commandment tells us that we should not bow down before any image. This implies that God is not in the image. Which means that God is not everywhere. The Bible tells us that God is in heaven; and heaven is not everywhere. Heaven is above the earth and that is where we should direct our worship to God, where He is. He knows everything that happens everywhere and can go wherever He pleases but His abode is in heaven where Jesus, our High Priest and intercessor, is presenting our cases to Him. - "Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens" (Heb. 8:1). Furthermore, both the prophets Daniel and John saw God in heaven with the angels gathered around His throne and Jesus being separate and distinct (Dan. 7 and Rev. 4, 5). Daniel said "the Ancient of days did sit" (Dan. 7:9) and "one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days" (Dan. 7:13). John said "one sat on the throne" (Rev. 4:2) who was worshipped as the Creator to whom it was said "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created" (Rev. 4:11), with Jesus appearing before Him to receive a book and power and authority, as the Lamb who was slain, and the angels sang, "Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." (Rev. 5:13). God is not everywhere all at once like a vapour while part of Him or an image sits on the throne representing Him. God Himself sits, of whom man was made in His image after His likeness, "made after the similitude of God" (James 3:9). Logically, if God is everywhere, He can be worshipped wherever He is. One could then bow down and worship before a stone, a tree, a person or any object, not as worshipping the object but as worshipping God, since God is in it. That would open the door for the worship of false Gods as no one would be able to tell the difference whether you are worshipping the true God or not. It would not be consistent to forbid worshipping before an object if God is in the object and one is worshipping, not the object, but God who is in the object. This is evident in the experience of the children of Israel in the wilderness. God appeared to them in a cloud and they were not forbidden to bow before Him in the cloud - "And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud" (Ex. 19:9), "And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door" (Ex. 33:10). If God is not in a particular place, say in an image, it means that there is at least one place where He is not. He cannot be everywhere and not everywhere at the same time. The idea that the Holy Spirit is God present everywhere was precisely the argument that Dr. John Harvey Kellogg put forward to justify his pantheistic teachings. And Ellen White told him that he was wrong. Initially, he said that God was in everything. And when God instructed Ellen White to oppose it, he modified it by saying that at the time of his first presentation of the matter in the book "The Living Temple" he did not believe in the Trinity. Because of that, he said he had not given a clear explanation of the matter. He went on to explain that he had now come to believe in the Trinity and could better explain his idea. The new explanation was that it was not God the Father, but God the Holy Ghost who was everywhere and in everything. Ellen White told him that he was wrong. And we can see why. If God the Holy Spirit is everywhere and can be worshipped, it is a doorway to replace worshipping God and Christ in heaven entirely. Another modified version of Kellogg's idea is that the Holy Spirit is really Christ himself or both God and Christ in an omnipresent form. This is also not correct as it places God and Christ on earth rather than in heaven. The pioneers of Seventh-day Adventism stated in their Fundamental Principles of faith published in the 1889 Yearbook that God was everywhere present by His representative, the Holy Spirit. At face value, this would suggest that this representative is omnipresent. It is perhaps more consistent with scripture to say that He is everywhere present by His representatives the holy spirits. Holy spirits are ministering spirits sent from heaven - "And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man." (John1:51). "Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?" (Heb. 1:14). This is consistent with the Hebrew word ruach and the Greek word pneuma that are translated in the Bible as spirit. These words are also translated spirits, thus indicating that the Holy Spirit need not be seen as one individual being who is omnipresent but many spirit beings representing God everywhere. From this perspective, there is no denying that the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, sent at Pentecost is a person - only not a God-being to be worshipped. Like the Angel of Revelation 18 who comes down from heaven with the latter rain - a similar occurrence as that which took place at Pentecost except more extensive - the Comforter would be seen as a messenger sent by Christ from heaven, as stated repeatedly in John 14-16. Ellen G. White describing the latter rain speaks of a mighty angel from heaven being sent to do this work and further said, "Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven" (Ellen. G. White, Story of Redemption, p. 399). So, there we have it. The church has now fully accepted Kellogg's idea. Ellen White said that the initial presentation by Kellogg was the alpha of deadly heresies. She said that the omega would follow shortly afterwards and would be accepted. And it did follow shortly afterwards in Kellogg's modified version, based on his acceptance of the Trinity. And the church has now fully accepted it - that God (the Holy Spirit) is everywhere and should be worshipped. So, based on current practice, Jesus is worshipped, the Holy Spirit is worshipped but the One true God is almost entirely ignored. Jesus made it clear who the "only true God" is and identified Himself as the Son of God - "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3). Nowhere in the Bible is worship given to anyone else except the one seated on the throne who is referred to as "LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come" (Rev.4:8) and to the Christ, the Lamb, as it will be in the new earth - "And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it." (Rev. 21:22). God is the Father of Christ. Accordingly, Christ, the Lamb is seen with "an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads" (Rev. 14:1). It is the name of the Lamb's Father that will be written in their foreheads. Whatever one's concept of the Godhead, the term "godhead" is used only three times in the Bible (Acts 17:29, Rom. 1:20 and Col. 2:9) and in none of these places is the expression used to replace the idea of God being a single individual who has a Divine Son who is worshipped alongside Himself. And not even once does the term "godhead" in scripture allude to the worship of anyone else. All worship should be directed to God and Christ in heaven. It is not about where we are when we worship but, like sending a petition to the king of England, we do not send it to Spain or Australia but to him in England where he is. Similarly, Jesus in teaching us how to pray directed that we say, "Our Father which art in heaven". We should not be praying to nor worshipping anything on earth. We should pray to God in heaven, approaching His throne through Christ, our Mediator, and we should direct our worship to heaven where God is. This is the substance of the second Commandment that Rome has removed.

[@thejudgmenthour]

The Christian church began its existence by praying for the Holy Spirit. It was in its infancy, without the personal presence of Christ. Just before His ascension Christ had commissioned the disciples to preach the gospel to the world.... I. HP 333.2-HP 333.3

[@thejudgmenthour]

Christ gives them the breath of His own Spirit, the life of His own life. The Holy Spirit puts forth its highest energies to work in mind and heart. Through the grace given us we may achieve victories that because of our own erroneous and preconceived opinions, our defects of character, our smallness of faith, have seemed impossible. . MH 159.4

[@thejudgmenthour]

The Holy Spirit, which proceeds from the only begotten Son of God, binds the human agent, body, soul, and spirit, to the perfect, divine-human nature of Christ. This union is represented by the union of the vine and the branches. Finite man is united to the manhood of Christ. Through faith human nature is assimilated with Christ's nature. We are made one with God in Christ. . RH April 5, 1906, par. 16

[@thejudgmenthour]

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ, which is sent to all men to give them sufficiency, that through His grace we might be complete in Him. The Lord has provided that we should always be under the teaching and influence of the Holy Spirit. We shall then discover that the law of God is holy, just, and good, and we would learn to delight in the law of God. We love the requirements of the law, and from our hearts render obedience to its requirements.. 9LtMs, Lt 11a, 1894, par. 23

[@thejudgmenthour]

Let them study the seventeenth of John, and learn how to pray and how to live the prayer of Christ. He is the Comforter. He will abide in their hearts, making their joy full. His words will be to them as the bread of life, and in the strength thus gained they will be enabled to develop characters that will be an honor to God. Perfect Christian fellowship will exist among them. There will be seen in their lives the fruit that always appears as the result of obedience to the truth.. RC 200.2

[@thejudgmenthour]

The Holy Spirit is the breath of spiritual life in the soul. The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ. It imbues the receiver with the attributes of Christ. Only those who are thus taught of God, those who possess the inward working of the Spirit, and in whose life the Christ-life is manifested, are to stand as representative men, to minister in behalf of the church.. DA 805.3

[@thejudgmenthour]

Those who believe the truth should remember that they are God's little children, that they are under His training. Let them be thankful to God for His manifold mercies and be kind to one another. They have one God and one Saviour; and one Spirit-the Spirit of Christ-is to bring unity into their ranks. . 9T 189.3

[@gnanampaulraj5870]

Praise God for this wonderful message

[@samueladugyimah1497]

I pray God that one day Ps Skeete will restudy this subject microscopically. 🙏🏾🙏🏾.

[@beaelleess3892]

Yes! Microscopically!!!

[@danbora1698]

Question, why did the Lord said baptize them in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit? Why did he include the Holy Spirit if he's not a part of the Godhead?

[@wisemansangalala1159]

Do you know the Name of the Father, whats the name of the Son, and Lastly would you have an Idea of the Name of the Holy Spirit...I know this sounds crazy but just thought to provoke your mind as to whether we missed the point of Jesus lesson on baptism. Maybe we should look at how the apostles conducted their baptisms in respect to the command. This said, he never said the names you'll use for baptism are all for God.

[@wisemansangalala1159]

I pray so.

[@corneliuskinara3369]

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

[@ericfolks1503]

1 Cor 12:11 - ”But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.“ ‭‭ Matthew 28:19-20

[@animemegabucket7594]

The influence of the Holy Spirit is the life of Christ in the soul. We do not now see Christ and speak to Him, but His Holy Spirit is just as near us in one place as another.

[@caralisa648]

Hello pastor. you have explained perfectly a question I have had for years. God bless. you are certainly an instrument of God.

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

I recommend you visit a channel called “pioneering again” there you will find thorough bible study on this topic.

[@thejudgmenthour]

We are now in the time of the latter rain, and we are told to pray for the Spirit of God, for the power of the Spirit. This means the fulness of the indwelling Christ. The image of God, as shown in Jesus Christ, is to be perfected in those that are prepared for translation just before the second coming of Christ to receive his own, who bear fully his image. There must be at that time the fulness of the indwelling Christ, and Christ must be all and in all. He must be all there is in every one. There must be none of self. Is means the complete death of self, and the fulness of the indwelling Saviour.. GCB December 1895, page 635.5

[@thejudgmenthour]

Christ, through the operation of the Spirit, had His abiding place in each individual soul, and grace and peace were multiplied through the knowledge of the fact that they had a risen Saviour who made an atonement for every one who came to Him by faith. We have this same Saviour, and He says, “Ask, and ye shall receive; seek, and ye shall find: knock, and it shall be opened unto you.” [Matthew 7:7.] “Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye ask anything in my name, I will do it. If ye love me, keep my commandments.” [John 14:12-15.] If we would experience the love of Christ we must be obedient children, keeping company with Jesus. We may walk in love, having His abiding presence to guide, direct and control. . 10LtMs, Ms 42, 1895, par. 5

[@stayamanya4819]

The influence of the Holy Spirit is the life of Christ in the soul. We do not now see Christ and speak to him, but his Holy Spirit is just as near us in one place as another. It works in and through every one who receives Christ” (OFC 119.1).

[@sherinejuly9535]

There is no biblical concept of trinity,there is a biblical concept of the God head. The trinity is catholic which give rise to the worship of mary and not Jesus. My great grand parents who were sda taught me this teaching is new to the advent movement. SDA . As a SDA i dont worship 3 Gods but ONE God. Hear oh israel the lord our God is one God. God the father,Jesus the son of God and the holy spirit the spirit of God. We shall not enter heaven with a false doctrine

[@bt8455]

AMEN! The trinity isn't a 'concept'; it's a CON-cept.

[@shiphorachintada8678]

Pastor, Please pray for me Life, As I'm going through certain family difficulties and about my spiritual life.

[@thejudgmenthour]

I have been shown that the greatest reason why the people of God are now found in this state of spiritual blindness is that they will not receive correction. Many have despised the reproofs and warnings given them. The True Witness condemns the lukewarm condition of the people of God, which gives Satan great power over them in this waiting, watching time. The selfish, the proud, and the lovers of sin are ever assailed with doubts. Satan has ability to suggest doubts and to devise objections to the pointed testimony that God sends, and many think it a virtue, a mark of intelligence in them, to be unbelieving and to question and quibble. Those who desire to doubt will have plenty of room. God does not propose to remove all occasion for unbelief. He gives evidence, which must be carefully investigated with a humble mind and a teachable spirit, and all should decide from the weight of evidence.. 3T 255.1

[@ecornwal]

1 Corinthians 8:6 "yet for us there is one God, THE FATHER...and one Lord Jesus Christ " 1 Timothy 2:5 "there is one God AND one mediator between God and men... Christ Jesus" Paul clearly states that the one Godis the Father. Jesus is the mediator BETWEEN God and men, therefore not the Almighty, but as scripture says, the divine Son of God. The HS is not a person, but the Spirit of God - so yes the HS does exist, but not as a separate person to God. The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Jesus are referred to as the HS. In John 14:18 Jesus says "I will come to you" after stating that the Helper/Comforter will sent - thus explaining that tge Spirit being sent is on fact HIS Spirit. A lot of people act as if the original language of the bible was English when they use arguments such as the use of the pronoun "He" for the HS proves it is a person - many of thos pronouns are not in the original Greek text - the Bible was translated into English over 1000 years after the Trinity idea became a doctrine in the Christian church, i.e. translated by scholars who had a natural bias toward trinity thinking and therefore would attempt to make the text more readable by adding pronouns for the HS where there were none - sincere, but wrong. Looking at tge history of the church you can see how this doctrine was introduced by a Roman emperor who was essencstill pagan in order to unitethe church, i.e.not a effort in introducing the truth.

[@thejudgmenthour]

Though the ministration was to be removed from the earthly to the heavenly temple; though the sanctuary and our great high priest would be invisible to human sight, yet the disciples were to suffer no loss thereby. They would realize no break in their communion, and no diminution of power because of the Saviour's absence. While Jesus ministers in the sanctuary above, He is still by His Spirit the minister of the church on earth. He is withdrawn from the eye of sense, but His parting promise is fulfilled, “Lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.” Matthew 28:20. While He delegates His power to inferior ministers, His energizing presence is still with His church.. DA 166.2

[@TipsbyThomas]

That most of the leading SDA pioneers were non-Trinitarian in their theology has become accepted Adventist history......either the pioneers were wrong and the present church is right, or the pioneers were right and the present Seventh-day Adventist Church has apostatized from biblical truth.” - Jerry Moon, The Trinity, Chapter, Trinity and anti-trinitarianism in Seventh-day Adventist history, p. 190

[@wisemansangalala1159]

They where probably right looking at how he has struggled to put a lot of scriptures together without a single verse relating to the question

[@TipsbyThomas]

@@wisemansangalala1159 Well said

[@thejudgmenthour]

The work of the Holy Spirit is immeasurably great. It is from this source that power and efficiency come to the worker for God; and the Holy Spirit is the Comforter, as the personal presence of Christ to the soul. Any person who looks to Christ in simple, childlike faith is made a partaker of the divine nature through the agency of the Holy Spirit. When led by the Spirit of God, Christians may know that they are made complete in Him who is the head of all things. As Christ was glorified on the day of Pentecost, so will He again be glorified in the closing work of the gospel, when He shall prepare a people to stand the final test in the closing conflict of the great controversy.... . CTr 365.4

[@77Overcomers]

Those who believe that the Holy spirit is a separate being from God, it means that they also believe that their own spirit is a separate being from themselves. This is not biblical at all.

[@RUDNIKTL1]

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, is refusing to let the Holy Spirit bring you to repentance. If you call the work of the Holy Spirit, the work of the devil, and you’ve cut yourself off from repentance, which is fatal. If it’s OK to blaspheme against Jesus, who is God, then it should be OK to blaspheme against the holy spirit if you believe he is God. The Jews were attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to the devil, and that’s what Jesus was addressing. If we call the work of the spirit that of the devil, and don’t submit to that spirit, then it is the unpardonable sin because the spirit leads us to repentance. No repentance no forgiveness no salvation.

[@sidneyachia1909]

Very TRUE!. The Pharisees, Scribes and Priests did not even know of the existence of a GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT! ... Just like the Disciples of John the Baptist in Acts 19! Why? Because there is NO God The Holy Spirit! 🙏

[@beaelleess3892]

Amen, 🙏 Gods spirit is grieved to be misrepresented by men of God who know him not….

[@RUDNIKTL1]

@@sidneyachia1909 I think it may be important to use what the SOP and the Bible uses when describing His personality. Not God the Spirit but the Spirit of God. When we change the words to match our understanding, I think it sets a president and also there may something very important that God is trying to keep in view fir balance.

[@sidneyachia1909]

​@@RUDNIKTL1well, I was just using a term that the Trinitarians HAVE ADDED, ... now that they are comfortable creating and using terms that are NOT in the Bible. 😭

[@thejudgmenthour]

Thus the deliverance from the guilt of sin and from the power of sin, which holds the believer in triumph over all the desires, the tendencies and inclinations, of his sinful flesh, through the power of the Spirit of God,-this is wrought to-day by the personal presence of Christ Jesus IN HUMAN FLESH in the believer, precisely as it was wrought by the personal presence of Christ in human flesh eighteen hundred and seventy years ago.. ARSH October 2, 1900, page 633.16

[@thejudgmenthour]

“I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever.” This was Christ’s word to his disciples just before he departed from the world. He was going away, but there would be another Comforter that would abide with them forever, “even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.” “Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?” In the preceding verse is recorded this promise: “I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.” Not simply some power and life, not something else, but he would manifest himself unto them. Then Judas made the inquiry, “How is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” “These things I have spoken unto you, being yet present with you [or abiding with you]. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”. GCB December 1895, page 631.2-GCB December 1895, page 631.3

[@thankfulvoice6474]

All Glory Glory Glory to the most Holy Holy Holy LORD YESHUVA Amen 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Amen Amen All Gratitude to ALMIGHTY YESHUVA OUR SAVIOUR LORD our MOST POWERFUL HOLY SPIRIT, thank you so much for helping us, guiding us and blessing us with YOUR TRUTH. Amen and Amen. GOD bless you Always Brother Randy. Thank you so much.

[@beaelleess3892]

Yes I can see where you are going with this! - believing in the Holy spirit as a being and that he is another God - a part of the three INDIVIDUALS in the Trinity god brings us to the conclusion that we should be able to pray to the Holy Spirit right? Because he is “God”!! Please be careful praying to the Holy Spirit … who exactly is this? Can you give me an example of praying TO the Holy spirit from the word of God, a thus saith the Lord?

[@thejudgmenthour]

Is satan pretending to be the third being? I saw a throne, and on it sat the Father and the Son. I gazed on Jesus’ countenance and admired His lovely person. The Father's person I could not behold, for a cloud of glorious light covered Him. I asked Jesus if His Father had a form like Himself. He said He had, but I could not behold it, for said He, “If you should once behold the glory of His person, you would cease to exist.” Before the throne I saw the Advent people-the church and the world. I saw two companies, one bowed down before the throne, deeply interested, while the other stood uninterested and careless. Those who were bowed before the throne would offer up their prayers and look to Jesus; then He would look to His Father, and appear to be pleading with Him. A light would come from the Father to the Son and from the Son to the praying company. Then I saw an exceeding bright light come from the Father to the Son, and from the Son it waved over the people before the throne. But few would receive this great light. Many came out from under it and immediately resisted it; others were careless and did not cherish the light, and it moved off from them. Some cherished it, and went and bowed down with the little praying company. This company all received the light and rejoiced in it, and their countenances shone with its glory. I saw the Father rise from the throne, [See page 92.] and in a flaming chariot go into the holy of holies within the veil, and sit down. Then Jesus rose up from the throne, and the most of those who were bowed down arose with Him. I did not see one ray of light pass from Jesus to the careless multitude after He arose, and they were left in perfect darkness. Those who arose when Jesus did, kept their eyes fixed on Him as He left the throne and led them out a little way. Then He raised His right arm, and we heard His lovely voice saying, “Wait here; I am going to My Father to receive the kingdom; keep your garments spotless, and in a little while I will return from the wedding and receive you to Myself.” Then a cloudy chariot, with wheels like flaming fire, surrounded by angels, came to where Jesus was. He stepped into the chariot and was borne to the holiest, where the Father sat. There I beheld Jesus, a great High Priest, standing before the Father. On the hem of His garment was a bell and a pomegranate, a bell and a pomegranate. Those who rose up with Jesus would send up their faith to Him in the holiest, and pray, “My Father, give us Thy Spirit.” Then Jesus would breathe upon them the Holy Ghost. In that breath was light, power, and much love, joy, and peace. I turned to look at the company who were still bowed before the throne; they did not know that Jesus had left it. Satan appeared to be by the throne, trying to carry on the work of God. I saw them look up to the throne, and pray, “Father, give us Thy Spirit.” Satan would then breathe upon them an unholy influence; in it there was light and much power, but no sweet love, joy, and peace. Satan's object was to keep them deceived and to draw back and deceive God's children. . EW 54.2-EW 56.1

[@beaelleess3892]

Yes!! I had to go find this quote in my early writings book because I remembered reading it and finally found it after I started studying this subject - the warfare over the matter! Amazing how she literally describes him ‘breathing’ pretending to do the work…. Thanks 🙏

[@thejudgmenthour]

Before the fallen God is a moral governor as well as a Father. He is the Lawgiver. He makes and executes His laws. Law that has no penalty is of no force.. 12MR 208.2 The Son of God was next in authority to the great Lawgiver. He knew that his life alone could be sufficient to ransom fallen man. He was of as much more value than man as his noble, spotless character, and exalted office as commander of all the heavenly host, were above the work of man. He was in the express image of his Father, not in features alone, but in perfection of character.. 2SP 9.1 Satan in Heaven, before his rebellion, was a high and exalted angel, next in honor to God's dear Son. His countenance, like those of the other angels, was mild and expressive of happiness. His forehead was high and broad, showing a powerful intellect. His form was perfect; his bearing noble and majestic. A special light beamed in his countenance, and shone around him brighter and more beautiful than around the other angels; yet Jesus, God's dear Son, had the pre-eminence over all the angelic host. He was one with the Father before the angels were created. Satan was envious of Christ, and gradually assumed command which devolved on Christ alone. . 1SP 17.1 Satan was once an honored angel in heaven, next to Christ. His countenance, like those of the other angels, was mild and expressive of happiness. His forehead was high and broad, showing great intelligence. His form was perfect; his bearing noble and majestic. But when God said to His Son, “Let us make man in our image,” Satan was jealous of Jesus. He wished to be consulted concerning the formation of man, and because he was not, he was filled with envy, jealousy, and hatred. He desired to receive the highest honors in heaven next to God. . EW 145.1 After the fallen It was Gabriel, the angel next in rank to the Son of God, who came with the divine message to Daniel. It was Gabriel, “His angel,” whom Christ sent to open the future to the beloved John; and a blessing is pronounced on those who read and hear the words of the prophecy, and keep the things written therein. Revelation 1:3. DA 234.2-

[@truthbebold4009]

The conclusion I see from this talk is that there is a Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That's what we non-threeity believers preach as well 🙏

[@conduithapkido]

Amazing. Thank you so very much for that perfect biblical explanation of the Godhead. May God continue to bless your ministry.

[@2CBNTV]

You are very welcome

[@thejudgmenthour]

*The Father gave His Spirit without measure to His Son, and we also may partake of its fullness.*. GC 477.1

[@DonjohnsonBG]

You definitely overloading quotes in the comments from Sister White of her identifying who the Spirit really is; but so sad those SDAs that believe in the Trinity will explain it away from its meaning or totally ignore those quotes.

[@watamangondo]

​@@DonjohnsonBG ofcourse the Bible should be able to explain itself. Because you can't go out to preach to non Adventists will EGW books

[@watamangondo]

Her books are to give us more light. But the Bible is the bigger light

[@user-yo6uw9fq2k]

Hello my favorite pastor, Randy skeete pray for me. I'm so week spiritually and I need prayers... watching you from Malawi 🎉

[@andrzejzie7046]

God wants you to come to His throne and pray by yourself. Confess your sins and speak to Him. You don't need another sinner pray for you. Beside read this: Catholic Trinity is very different than Biblical Trinity. Catholic Trinity are three IN one literally. How is it possible? It is mystery they say but it is mysticism. They're NOT three persons. There are THREE IN ONE. Bible teaches that there are THREE separate persons that create Godhead. They are in one in purpose, in complete harmony. So Skeete is right on 3 persons but then he buys to Catholic doctrine of oneness "Three persons but one substance" (19:40). How Christ who's in flesh can share a substance with the Spirits who are the Father and the Holy Ghost? Mysticism - catholic doctrine. Using the word Trinity is misleading and we should not be used because the word already defines something different that Biblical church should believe.

[@bt7250]

The Godhead is The Father and The Son period! Nowhere is any third party referenced.

[@andrzejzie7046]

I don't think you are SDA. We do believe that Holy Spirit is a 3rd person in the Godhead as SOP clearly said.@@bt7250

[@romandaigle455]

Don’t listen to RS, he is a shill. Pray and read the Bible. God will guide you.

[@romandaigle455]

@@bt7250exactly, RS is a deceiver. The founders of SDA church including EG White were not trinitarians! That’s just facts.

[@sylviamanring9975]

Ghrist laid down his divinty upon coming to the earth. He was a serveant for the Father.

[@aubreyygtedfraser1293]

Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. *The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof.* He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent. " 14MR 23.3

[@donbrenczeizinger6571]

Well said.

[@victorshikuku4355]

"Is Himself" is a reference to the Holy Spirit and not to an entity some sentences earlier. In brief: 1. Christ never put off humanity, to have a humanity-less form of Jesus on earth and bodily form Jesus in heaven 2. Ellen White uses the phrase "is himself" consistently to refer the subject preceeding "is himself" not an object far distant in earlier sentences. 3. The same quote has been repeated elsewhere but reworded to provide clearer intended meaning. Lastly, saying the Holy Spirit is Jesus destroys the personality of either. It also leads to adhoc conclusions like Jesus sent himself, glorified himself, testified of himself etc. The simplicity of this truth is as Pr Skeete described. We can be called to believe mysteries but not absurdities.

[@aubreyygtedfraser1293]

*The Holy Spirit is the Comforter, in Christ's name. He personifies Christ, yet is a distinct personality.* We may have the Holy Spirit if we ask for it and make it [a] habit to turn to and trust in God rather than in any finite human agent who may make mistakes. 20MR 324.2 The reason why the churches are weak and sickly and ready to die, is that the enemy has brought influences of a discouraging nature to bear upon trembling souls. *He has sought to shut Jesus from their view as the Comforter,* as one who reproves, who warns, who admonishes them, saying, "This is the way, walk ye in it." RH August 26, 1890, par. 10 *There is no comforter like Christ, so tender and so true.* He is touched with the feeling of our infirmities. His Spirit speaks to the heart. Circumstances may separate us from our friends; the broad, restless ocean may roll between us and them. RH October 26, 1897, par. 15 *The Holy Spirit, which proceeds from the only-begotten Son of God,* binds the human agent, body, soul, and spirit, to the perfect, divine-human nature of Christ. This union is represented by the union of the vine and the branches. Finite man is united to the manhood of Christ. Through faith human nature is assimilated with Christ's nature. We are made one with God in Christ. 1SM 251.1 The Lord is soon to come. We want that complete and perfect understanding which the Lord alone can give. It is not safe to catch the spirit from another. *We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ.* If we commune with God, we shall have strength and grace and efficiency. 9LtMs, Lt 66, 1894, par. 18 *JESUS comes to you as the SPIRIT of TRUTH;* study the mind of the Spirit, consult your Lord, follow His way.”- Manuscript Releases 2, p. 337.1 How readest thou? 🙏

[@beaelleess3892]

@@aubreyygtedfraser1293 wonderful 🙏

[@bobbi2235]

@@aubreyygtedfraser1293AMEN!!!

[@aviagorse3384]

Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.. KJV - 1Corinthians 15:24-28 My question is this, if God the Father, god the son and god the Holy Spirit are coeternal, coequal etc how is it that god the son will be now subjected to God the Father? How does that work? Also if Christ was always why did he have to receive power from another god? Should he have had his own power? Now we worship our God and Heavenly Father through his Son. We are taught in the word to pray to our Heavenly Father. If there is a god the Holy Spirit separate and apart from the Father and Son shouldn’t he be worshipped? Can you out of the mouth of two or three witnesses tell me where in the Bible I could find this?

[@thejudgmenthour]

The Spirit which is to be sent is the Spirit of truth, and it is the Spirit of life in Jesus Christ, and it is the Spirit of God. That is what binds God the Father and Christ his son and their followers together in one. It is more than can be done by that sort of persuasion which brings one mind into harmony with another; it is not merely agreement in sentiment, but union of life. And that union of life is by the power of the Holy Spirit. This was Christ’s prayer: “Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also, which shall believe on me through their word. That they may all be one, as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.” And that is made possible by the interflow of life between them. So Christ was in the Father, and the Father in him by this interflow of life, and his desire is, “as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us.”. GCB December 1895, page 634.1

[@charyn411]

Excellent teaching from Brother Randy Skeete. My soul is blessed by this teaching of the Godhead.

[@randabrenda4815]

I don't like those graven images on windows, they look creepy

[@thejudgmenthour]

Who then is to do the work in order that it may be good works always? Let us read again: “If Christ is dwelling in our hearts, He will work in us ‘both to will and to do of his good pleasure.’ We shall work as He works; we shall manifest the same spirit. And thus, loving Him and abiding in Him, we shall ‘grow up into Him in all things, which is the head, even Christ’” Now, then, that is what the Lord wants, that is what the mind of Christ is. As we had the thought the other evening-I cannot have the mind of Christ separate from Him. I cannot have the mind of Christ without having Him personally. But the personal presence of Jesus Christ is just what He wants to give us by the Holy Spirit in the outpouring of the latter rain just now. The personal presence of Christ is what He wants to give us.. GCB/GCDB 1893, page 298.12

[@user-dc5ti1rm6u]

Amen, glory be to God. I am blessed by this insight into the Trinity controversy, God bless you, pastor Randy Skeete🙏🙏

[@mayowapeter337]

Pls am here to go against any individual pls but am here just to defend the bible and the truth of the gospel . When Saul that was later called Paul was alive he fought against the truth but later Jesus met him one the way to Damascus he got changed and the preach Jesus Christ exactly the way the apostles that was ahead of was preaching it. So. Why is that today our pastors are preaching differently from what the apostles preaches and teaches in the bible? Pls let watch out and make the bible our absolute not individual.

[@zaddochotienoopiyo1064]

You can read Bible cover to cover like brother Randy and be ignorant of scripture. The verse he read does no speak anything about identity of the Holy Ghost. He quickly forgets the controversy is not about existence of the word Holy Spirit but rather identity. It is like a man saying Randy isn’t a white man. And you say he I rejecting existence of Randy when in truth he is simply saying. He then misinterprets the phrase the spirit of the Lord is upon me, He has anointed me. Who anointed Jesus? The father by the holy oil(Holy Spirit) so how did the father annoint the second by the third? Ellen white no where talk of blasphemy as such but says it is the persistent rejection of truth And the whole church wonders after the preacher

[@user-oh9nb1fh3h]

Pastof Skeete pleasant morning. I really, really appreciate your explaining of the Trinity. The 1st elder for the church I'm a member of makes it plain to the church, THE HOLY SPIRIT is A FORCE. He's doesn't believe in the PROPHETESS claiming she has errors. Therefore if a passage needs further explaining he blaintly reguses to seek such from her books. Every passage in the bible he down playz noting we'll have yo continue living in sin until CHRIST comes and transforms us. Look @ 1st John 3: 6 - 9. Which tells us if CHRIST lives in us we CANNOT SIN. The elder is saying that's not what it means. Pastor I'm tried of going to church and returning home been told to form my own opinion and that's Divine Hour to Bible Class to Wednesday Night Meetings. The church refuses to grow. HELP, HELP AND MORE HELP

[@janetteheath8275]

Would you like me to send you a small booklet I put together about the Wine of Babylon?

[@ratie2893]

The sounds like a Jesuit or an unbeliever. Pray that who he is is revealed to you

[@johnontita6845]

just teachings, God bless 2CBN Tv

[@2CBNTV]

Amen 🙏 Glory be to God

[@thejudgmenthour]

The sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit does not lie in any sudden word or deed; it is the firm, determined resistance of truth and evidence (Manuscript 30, 1890). Sin Against the Holy Ghost-No one need look upon the sin against the Holy Ghost as something mysterious and indefinable. The sin against the Holy Ghost is the sin of persistent refusal to respond to the invitation to repent (. 5BC 1093.1-5BC 1093.2

[@thejudgmenthour]

We receive the promise of the Spirit through faith; but what brings it? The Spirit of God; and when we have that, Christ dwells in the heart. Then it is the Holy Spirit that brings the personal presence of Jesus Christ, and in bringing His personal presence to us, He brings Himself. Then it is the mind of Christ, by which we may comprehend, investigate, and revel in, the deep things of God which He reaches down and brings forth to our understanding and sets them before us in their plainness. That is what we must have, in order to have the presence of Christ, in order to have the righteousness of Christ, in order that we may have the latter rain, in order that we may give the loud cry.. GCB/GCDB 1893, page 246.2

[@thejudgmenthour]

Christ was the spirit of truth. The world will not listen to His pleadings. They would not accept Him as their guide. They could not discern unseen things; spiritual things were unknown to them. But His disciples see in Him the Way, the Truth, and the Life. And they shall have His abiding presence. They shall have an experimental knowledge of the only true God and of Jesus Christ whom He hath sent. To them He says: You will no more say, I cannot comprehend. No longer shall you see through a glass darkly; you shall comprehend with all saints what is the length and depth and breadth and height of the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge. He who has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ. The honor of God, the honor of Jesus Christ, is involved in the perfection of your character. Your work is to co-operate with Christ, that you may be complete in Him. In being united to Him by faith, believing and receiving Him, you become a part of Himself. Your character is His glory revealed in you. And when you shall appear in His presence, you will find the benediction awaiting you, “Well done, good and faithful servant, thou hast been faithful over a few things: I will make thee ruler over many things; enter thou into the joy of thy Lord.”. SW October 25, 1898, par. 1-SW October 25, 1898, par. 2

[@aviagorse3384]

This statement shows that it was the Father's glory that came down on His Son and not another being "Had not the heavens opened and light from the throne of God encircled him with glory, while the voice of Jehovah proclaimed, “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."2SP 170.2 As the Son of God meditated upon these things, and the whole burden of his mission passed before his mind's eye, he lifted his head and said, “Father, glorify thy name.” He thought it not robbery to be equal with God, and called upon him to glorify himself in his Son. A response came from the cloud which had hovered above the head of Jesus: “I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” A light darted from the cloud, as the voice was heard, and encircled Christ, as if the arms of Infinite Power were thrown about him like a wall of fire. The people beheld this scene with terror and amazement. No one ventured to utter a word. With silent lips and bated breath they stood with eyes riveted upon Jesus. The testimony of Almighty God having been given, the cloud lifted and scattered in the heavens. The visible communion between the Father and the Son was ended for that time.. 3SP 78.2-3SP 78.3

[@newrez2391]

It was God the Father by His Angel. Read Acts about this anointing

[@MrUxser]

I’m just wondering if any of those kids were clear on what Pastor Randy explained. I sincerely doubt it. BTW - he started with a false premise, believing that non-trinitarians don’t believe there is a Holy Spirit😢

[@cottagehomeandhealth]

The Bible states that Jesus IS the Holy Spirit. 2nd Cor 3:17 Now the Lord (Jesus) is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Also in Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock over the which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. *Here this verse says the H.S. shed His blood? It was Jesus that shed His blood. Jesus comes in a spiritual way to us now that He is the great High Priest in the heavenly sanctuary. Another verse that shows Jesus is the H.S. is 1 Cor 15:45 And so it is written the first Adam was made a living soul and the last Adam (Jesus) was made a quickening spirit.

[@SevenThunders-si4ci]

Amen... Why doesn't Pastor Skeete read Acts 20:28??

[@SevenThunders-si4ci]

Thank you for your opinion. So, where in your reply have you given scripture to support your idea? Apparently Isaiah 43 and 44 do not. @@Ahava777

[@thejudgmenthour]

That Christ should manifest Himself to them, and yet be invisible to the world, was a mystery to the disciples. They could not understand the words of Christ in their spiritual sense. They were thinking of the outward, visible manifestation. They could not take in the fact that they could have the presence of Christ with them, and yet He be unseen by the world. They did not understand the meaning of a spiritual manifestation. . SW September 13, 1898, par. 2

[@franklynchidabushe1029]

Amen and amen!

[@TipsbyThomas]

“The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years (1853-1903) would be accounted as error.” - Ellen White, Selected Messages book 1, p. 204; Letter 242, October 1903

[@keithphillip8403]

He said to read Evangelism 😢but what says Desire of ages.❤ Never before have the angels listened to such a prayer. They are eager to bear to their loved Commander a message of assurance and comfort. But no; the Father Himself will answer the petition of His Son. Direct from the throne issue the beams of His glory. The heavens are opened, and upon the Saviour’s head descends a dovelike form of purest light,-fit emblem of Him, the meek and lowly One. DA 112.1 Of the vast throng at the Jordan, few except John discerned the heavenly vision. Yet the solemnity of the divine Presence rested upon the assembly. The people stood silently gazing upon Christ. His form was bathed in the light that ever surrounds the throne of God. His upturned face was glorified as they had never before seen the face of man. From the open heavens a voice was heard saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” DA 112.2

[@Ev.JAMESMAHIRI]

Yes of course. Trinity no

[@patsda6405]

"the spirit of the lord..." That's proof that there's two personalities? So when Jacob's heart fainted after he found out Joseph was alive, the bible says, "the spirit of Jacob their father revived. " That means there was a person other than Jacob? Also, The word "of" indicates possession. The spirit of the lord...that spirit belongs to the Lord. Or the spirit of Jacob....that spirit belongs to jacob.

[@jacquelinedunn3423]

Amen 🙏

[@user-rz9yd5gx2c]

“Be not deceived; many will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. We have now before us the alpha of this danger. The omega will be of a most startling nature.” (Ellen G. White, Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 2, page 16)

[@beaelleess3892]

Amen 🙏 this is the Omega…

[@thejudgmenthour]

The testimony to the divinity of the character of Christ, to the work of Jesus Christ on earth, is in the lives of his followers. The convincing power of the Christian life is what is done for the followers of Jesus Christ, is what Christ does in his followers. That is what makes real to the world the claims of Christianity. Christ is the one who mediates between God and us. By his taking our human flesh and standing between humanity and divinity as a union of humanity and divinity, he becomes the way, the channel through which God dwells in us by his Holy Spirit. God dwells in Christ by his Holy Spirit, and Christ by taking humanity, connected humanity with divinity in himself, so that when we become connected with Christ, we become connected with a humanity in which dwells divinity. With this connection between us and Christ, that divine power can dwell in us. Christ came in the flesh in order that there might be divine power for us. When man sinned, he cut himself off from this power, but Christ’s work was to make it possible that that divine power might come again to him. . GCB December 1895, page 634.2

[@user-iw8yo6bh5l]

1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Spirit of a Man - Knows the things of a man Spirit of God - Knows the things of God Question? Is the spirit of a man different being/person than himself? NO! Of course, The Father has his spirit, it is His life, glory and mind. He can give it wherever He choses. . Adding the Holy Spirit as God to be worship is Idolatry. . .The Bible commands us to worship only two Divine Beings "Joh_5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him." "Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. " Sin Against the Holy Spirit is the continual rejection of Gods biddings so the Holy spirit departs from a man. .and his probation is then closed. . Sin Against the Holy Spirit is not the belief thaT He is a God that's not what it says. . .

[@mathiasmassawe8275]

Here is SOP Evidence that we shall worship the Holy Spirit when we get to heaven: "Now a little point. As the saints in the kingdom of God are accepted in the beloved, they hear: “Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” [Matthew 25:34.] And then the golden harps are touched, and the music flows all through the heavenly host, and they fall down and worship the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. And then what? What next did I see? One meets another; and they say, as they fall right upon their necks with their faces shining with the glory of God, “It was you, it was you that brought the truth to me, and I would not hear it at first, but, O I am so glad.” Now that will be acted all through the heavenly courts, thanksgiving and praise to God for those that have been the means of winning others to the truth, that they should come and have an interest for them, and then they are united among the saved. O what a meeting! what a meeting!" (21LtMs, Ms 139, 1906, Par. 32) emphasis supplied.

[@mathiasmassawe8275]

"Now a little point. As the saints in the kingdom of God are accepted in the beloved, they hear: “Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” [Matthew 25:34.] And then the golden harps are touched, and the music flows all through the heavenly host, and they fall down and worship the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. And then what? What next did I see? One meets another; and they say, as they fall right upon their necks with their faces shining with the glory of God, “It was you, it was you that brought the truth to me, and I would not hear it at first, but, O I am so glad.” Now that will be acted all through the heavenly courts, thanksgiving and praise to God for those that have been the means of winning others to the truth, that they should come and have an interest for them, and then they are united among the saved. O what a meeting! what a meeting!" (21LtMs, Ms 139, 1906, Par. 32)

[@beaelleess3892]

Well said 🙏

[@supenskylesko]

One very major issue about Anti-Trinitarian belief concerns Christ on the Cross. If there is only one physical body to the Godhead, then God died and did not exist again until the Resurrection!!! And any attempt to get around that "fact" leads to very serious doctrinal issues. Was Christ in an unconscious state like when we die? Or was he in some type of spirit form and went to preach to souls in hell (the doctrinally wrong belief of the harrowing of hell)? The State of the Dead is very much an important doctrinal factor here!!!

[@user-hf1ys4rr5h]

Agreed. I think one of the problems is the difficulty in understanding what exactly is 'one God' as it relates to the expression 'Trinity' as that word originated in the days of the early Christian church almost 2000 years ago. The originators of the word 'Trinity' in theology did not ever seem to have defined their understanding as to whether 'one God' means three Individuals, or, whether 'one God' means one Being expressed in three ways. That is why I understand the Godhead to be just that, three distinct Beings - three Gods - Who function as one Unit in purpose, in the state of being eternal, in power but each Member fulfills a different role in Their united purpose. A weak example is the police force where there are different individuals but each officer serves under one name, 'police', to maintain law and order. While some police officers have desk duties, others are on patrol but all have the same powers (to arrest suspects, etc).

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

That is not an issue, because your argument assumes that the Father = the Son. They are not. They are 2 Beings that exist independent of each other. There is also the fact that _the Word_ is the God who became flesh, not the Most High God. The doctrinal issue lies in your attempt to rationalize the trinity, not anti-trinitarianism.

[@user-hf1ys4rr5h]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 I am grateful for your reply because it made me realise that, somehow, I mised the word 'anti' in the original comment.

[@beaelleess3892]

No, what you are describing is the belief in modalism, you are correct- it is a problem. But majority of historical Adventist do not believe this way…

[@deavenalajenio6777]

Amen pastor

[@juliosalinas4436]

• John's testimony is this: 1 John 5:11 (KJV) And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 1 John 5:12 (KJV) He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 1 John 5:13 (KJV) These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 1 John 5:20 (KJV) And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. 1 John 1:1-3 (KJV) That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. • Then John goes further in declaring who you become when you deny this testimony: 1 John 2:22 (KJV) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:23 (KJV) Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. • Modern theologians deny this biblical facts. But John had made it clear to us what we are if we deny these facts. Because by so doing it we make God a liar: Titus 1:2 (KJV) In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; • So, after John explains the salvation link to the knowledge of the true God he warns us: 1 John 5:21 (KJV) Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen. IC 64.3:(The Impending Conflict) The Bible is available to everyone, but few truly accept it as a guide to life. Unbelief predominates alarmingly, not only in the world but also in the church. Many have reached point of denying doctrines that are the very foundation of the Christian faith. In IC 65.1: By rejecting the truth, men reject the Author of it. By trampling on God's law, the authority of the Lawgiver is denied. It is as easy to make an (▪︎)idol of false doctrines and theories as it is to carve an idol out of wood or stone. By falsely representing the attributes of God, Satan misleads men to form a (▪︎)false concept of him. (▪︎)Many have enthroned a philosophical idol in Jehovah's place, while the living God, as revealed in his Word, in Christ, and in the works of creation, is worshiped by only a relatively small number. 1 John 5:21 (KJV) Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen. The trinity is NOT a biblical doctrine, rather it's a man's made idea, if not diabolical. Because as he said Isaiah 14:14 (KJV) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. So he really has achieved his purpose on earth by declaring through non consecrated men that the holy spirit is a God within a trinity or a triune system. Scriptures NOWHERE declare that the spirit is (a) God, Jesus rather declared : John 4:24 (KJV) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Please read comments from judgment hour, he was a catholic fellow who converted to SDA by studying the word of God through the direction of the holy spirit.

[@GOLF_YODA]

The Holy Ghost is the Father. 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Trinitarians believe in a false god called "God the Son", and are beguiled into a heretical doctrine of idolatry. No where in the Holy Bible will you find such a thing. Instead the Holy Bible reads, "the Son of God."