The True Ending to Wizards of Waverly Place Revealed

Executive producer, showrunner and writer of Wizards of Waverly Place, Peter Murrieta, reveals what scenes he was embarrassed to film, his favorite episodes, and how he would have ended the 4th season!
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[@officialpodco]

How do you think Wizards should have ended???

[@elizab.bristol7018]

It should’ve ended with Alex versus Alex that should’ve been a really good ending to the show

[@Missmagazinebura]

Five years forward with getting married by Juliet and Justin and mason and Alex .

[@chazarcola7639]

Max turning evil and killing his entire family.

[@Missmagazinebura]

@@chazarcola7639 no Not innocent max

[@chazarcola7639]

@@MissmagazineburaNot so innocent anymore. The years have not been kind to Max. LOL.

[@RyRyBrxt]

That ending does sound better then the one we got but I do wish instead of both ending we got the wizard competition abolished somehow. have the Russos band together to make sure this competition can't tear anymore families apart.

[@greekchick104]

Exactly!! My question has always been: has the show ever canonically stated why only one child in a wizard family can be the family wizard?? It’s been a while since I’ve seen the show, but I don’t remember it ever being mentioned. It just states that only one can be the family wizard.

[@theofficialVEVOformu]

@@greekchick104 it never states why I think it maybe have something to do with the fact that being a full wizard would require the other siblings powers I think Because Stevie’s brother could not have become a full wizard without Stevie giving up her powers

[@costarebe]

I think becoming the family wizard meant getting the power from all of them as a regard. The competition mainly being there to ensure only those that could keep the secret of being a wizard and knew how to use their powers became full wizards.

[@greekchick104]

@@theofficialVEVOformu gotcha!! Yeah, I feel like it was never clear but that definitely makes sense!!

[@greekchick104]

@@costarebe that’s a really interesting perspective. I feel like, if anything, that could have been implied but I may have just never picked up on that!!

[@elizab.bristol7018]

I literally thought the ending of wizards of Waverly Place was literally the movie or the hour long episode of Alex versus Alex

[@Missmagazinebura]

Yes Alex vs Alex was the last movie in 2013. It’s only been ten years and their kids don’t have Magic yet til their teen years

[@hannahwalmer1124]

Literally literally literally literally.

[@nunu850]

The movie came out after season 2 before the premiere of season 3. The Alex vs Alex special was after the finale in 2013

[@aaronsampson4351]

I thought the movie was the perfect ending, they should have made it after season 3 and Alex Vs Alex wasn’t what I thought I would be but I’d have to re watch it

[@truthspreader1996]

I hate the movie with a white-hot rage!

[@Orah90]

That's actually a much better ending then what we got. Alex was always so close to being selfless but never fully got there, having her give up her powers like her dad would have been a huge character arch.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@Orah90]

@@bitwawesome8020 Huh? What part of my comment says romance?

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@Orah90]

@@bitwawesome8020 Oh ok you're just a troll who thinks they're being funny. That's alright then, I thought you were just being a dick.

[@MrOoglebog]

But she saved her brother which resulted in her losing the competition. So there was growth.

[@myajanette]

This explains why I loved seasons 1-3. Not to say the rest was bad, but seasons 1-3 were and are my favorite.

[@jedaniels94]

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong. Disney ending was Alex gets the magic, Justin gets fake-Dumbledores magic and goes to teach at the school, Max gets the sandwich shop. Right? It was a fitting end, but not as good as the Peter Murrieta ending.

[@WSK9002]

Yes, you're correct, that was the ending that aired. Now hearing Mr Murrieta's ending, it is a bit too tidy. I would have had Max get the powers after Alex and Justin decide that they don't want to give up their own individual true loves.

[@ashmarie1370]

yes basically they pleased everyone. but i really like his ending it made me cry.

[@taraz6786]

You guys realize it’s a Disney show and not an indie movie?! 😂 Also the idea of young girls seeing a girl give up her power for a dude isn’t the best message. 🤔

[@alexanderwiles2003]

tbh i think max was just the loser there since he is still just working at the sandwich shop its not like the buisness is his yet but now he has no magic and the other 2 dont work there anymore

[@animetechnoblade1009]

@@taraz6786 I actually don’t get that reasoning either. Mason isn’t a mortal, Alex not being able to be with a werewolf as a non wizard was literally THE main reason she got back into the competition

[@Katz3y3GAMEZ]

I love David’s sensitivity

[@LHAC707]

That ending would have been WAY better! I wish we had gotten that ending.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@PPGZBubbles62]

David DeLuise is the most wholesome man in the universe and if anything ever happens to him I will genuinely go on a rampage.

[@brianwingel2570]

Well everyone dies so get the fuck over it

[@Anthonydavis65]

I still cherish Megas XLR to this day thanks to this man he will always be Coop to me

[@lunarialoonatic]

Considering Mason and Alex became low key toxic in season 4 this would have been a much better idea tbh

[@dawncrime3121]

I have never heard anyone else protect their cast as much as this man 👏🏼we need more like him

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@irvinalexanderflores]

It did irk me because I remembered wizards aren't allowed to marry non wizards and Mason wasn't a wizard so if Alex was gonna end up with him she'd obviously give up her magic however the new showrunners retconed it so that if Alex was to end up with Mason she would have to be a Wizzaed because a Warewolf is too dangerous to be married to a mortal even though the rule was always "wizards can't marry non wizards", not "wizards can't marry non magical beings"

[@nyehu09]

iirc, they’re not allowed to marry mortals, not non-wizards

[@irvinalexanderflores]

@@nyehu09 non wizards 100% it wasn't "mortals" until season 4 retconed it with Mason the original show runner proves this with his intended ending.

[@irvinalexanderflores]

@@nyehu09 I mean if anyone ever simplified it to "can't marry mortals" during seasons 1 through 3 mortals fall under *non wizards category* also the first time the parents told their kids why Jerry gave up his powers Teresa the mom told them "Wizards can't marry non wizards" ergo wizards have to marry wizards.

[@alexanderwiles2003]

@@irvinalexanderflores yes other times in the show they do just say that cant marry mortals there is also the issue with this ending though which is that juilet is with justin and she isnt a wizard either

[@irvinalexanderflores]

@@alexanderwiles2003 yeah he probably wasn't gonna bring Juliette back tbh she only returned in season four but tbhhe might have had Justin give it up too and have them give magic to max the way their dad did for Kelbo who he felt needed it more he had no idea what else he could do with his life he might had them parallel their dad and his siblings but instead have them all stay united. Unlike their aunt who straight up disowned them.

[@alainabarnes7527]

I always felt like season 4 of wizard felt a little off it felt different the vibe was off and now I know why !

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@WSK9002]

Okay, now I understand why the last season felt more Suite Life, than "Wizard's of Waverly Place."

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@fabisands]

Love David. I also cried. Laughed at Jen: "I'm dead inside" 😂

[@WSK9002]

My issue with the Fourth Season is, (I would be shocked if I was the only one) Alex reacting in a way, Alex never would or episodes ending with an "Aww" type of ending where that would have never took place in the Third Season, not every episode in Season Four had this issue, but one could notice it for sure. The aspect of "Wizards of Waverly Place" I really enjoyed was that The Russo's loved each other, but they did not get along, the kids behaved how a lot of kids would. The fourth season did not hold that spirit at all or at least attempt to.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@Eli-no3py]

@@bitwawesome8020bich stfu saying this to all comment

[@marvellousmocha1386]

Omg family game night is my favourite episode! I love the chaos of it, makes me smile every time

[@kamalporter706]

That would've been a beautiful ending 😭

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@thickknightgaming5473]

I like Peter's ending but I don't like Alex giving up her victory and powers.. I would rather have a way where all three could have kept their powers and end the family competition for good since it seems to in some cases divide families But finding out what the true ending would have been is great and it is a sweet sentimental ending

[@jessgriffiths6325]

Family game night was my favourite episode as well!

[@kevin04230]

i would’ve given anything for that ending man

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@BlackBoxProd96]

This is Canon in my Heart ❤️ thanks

[@casandrakelly]

That ending would’ve been amazing. Even I would’ve cried just to realize that all in all the story was complete and everyone was happy.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@SMP2390]

That ending sounded like one of the best endings for disney at that time too bad that didn't happen.

[@LuQaBras1]

I never understand why there was a competition in the first place. Stevie was right why do they have to give up their powers

[@davidhaynes5671]

Never made sense to me either

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@spo_sparkleemoji]

It's stated in an episode that the power of three wizards siblings is too much. Personally I feel like that's a cop out They could have written it with a bigger focus on the "family" part of family wizard. The wizard competition pulls siblings apart, maybe in a world where everyone keeps their powers, they realize "hey we wall have crazy powers I can do what I want all the time as a wizard and an adult" so to prevent that there's 1 family wizard. The family wizard helps the family out in odd ways. Sub-shop out of meat? - family wizard to the rescue, econimic troubles - money spells, family vacay? - flash in and out save on tickets etc. That way the family wizard also focuses on family, and having everyone stay connected. Magic that could he used selfishly by multiple people is now used selflessly by one. But honestly besides the cop out of "uh wizard sibling too powerful" we never got a good explenation

[@marvellousmocha1386]

That ending is perfect 🖤

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@rogergdz]

The ending with Future Harper would have been amazing...

[@nat3799]

Wow, this was some insight I didn’t know I needed. ♥️

[@laibakausar8161]

That was a 100 times better ending. That would have been a great character arc for Alex which i think was missing from the show.

[@WSK9002]

Something tells me, if "Wizards of Waverly Place" was a Nickelodeon show, Mr. Murrieta would still have had the same issues, perhaps not as difficult, but the same type of issues would have occurred. One aspect I have always heard about successful TV Shows, the network/production company behind said show believes their the ones behind the success, not the creator/showrunner. I think Mr. Murrieta would have been better off waiting for the Disney Channel Executives to say "Do you have any ideas for the final season?" Rather than say, I have the final season already thought out.

[@paolachavez6472]

Oh David😭❤ i feel you

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@Missmagazinebura]

I love wizards vs vampires with the zombies And the mummy

[@myajanette]

That ending is so beautiful and so much more meaningful than how it ended.

[@arrowverselover100]

I like it except for the future Harper part. That storyline was so long before the series finale that it just feels weird to bring it back. If there was talk about future Harper a lot or we saw her a few more times, I can understand it, but she was only in one episode and never mentioned again.

[@micktrinus]

So even with the original showrunner's ideal ending, Max gets forgotten. I'm not surprised...disappointed, but not surprised.

[@batbugz]

I like the ending that we got but not how we got there. I don't like the wizard competition being a game show. That said I also like this alternate ending.

[@ILoveCookie3]

I would've loved to see this. Mason was definitely not a favorite in season 4, which makes tons of sense now knowing all the behind the scenes stuff. Ending with Harper reading one of the wizard books would've truly made the perfect full circle moment. I still remember how future Harper mentions Mason when we meet her, and it was perfect since Mason had obviously not been introduced yet (great foreshadowing). Magnificent ending! I always thought the season 4 pilot was so weird since they took back the ending of season 3 immediately and essentially pretended like it didn't happen in S3E2. Mmmmmmmmm... Disney... Follow up questions though: - Are we following the rule that werewolves can't be with mortals? I think that came up in season 4, so it can probably just be thrown out since this ending wraps everything up so much better. - Does Max still get the sub shop? He seemed pretty chill about it in the episode. - Would there have been a follow-up movie (Alex vs. Alex)? Alex is the only one with powers in it (as Justin is said to be too busy at WizTech), so a different storyline would obviously be needed if Alex gave up her powers for love. Or would the movie just not exist?

[@FrenzyRadomZone2432]

It would be great if they had a better Proderce for Wizard of Wavley Place

[@nereammc_99]

Lovely podcast

[@KM-rd6qn]

I love that ending and I think it’s better than the ending they did.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@Melmich25]

That was amazing ending

[@kyseemmoore2320]

That ending was wayyy better yo

[@abominablesnowman64]

It sucks that at that time that "modern audience" was not liking happily ever after stories. That would have been nice and very movie like ending.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@nalabrown7765]

I would've loved that since the future harper episode gave a crumb to mason and having everything tie back would've been great. I also think that ending was what everyone was expecting maybe with Justin giving to Alex instead

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@TheReaperOfChess]

I kinda wish the wizard competitive would have been the movies... that one was epic

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@StephanieRZ]

Aw Peter M.!! Am here after the recent episode.

[@_heysiimba]

That’s fine but wat abt max

[@its_celeste2002]

Brooo that ending would of been so cute and perfect!!

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@theuniquerina]

This is much better ending!🎉

[@konstantinasampani2418]

If I remember correctly, Alex could be with Mason, only if she had her powers. That’s why they tried to be just friends, when she had level down and they thought she would never win

[@steventhefan]

The specific detail that she HAD to have her powers to be with him only came after the writer left the show. It seems the “original rule” was wizard could only be with wizard. So Alex couldn’t be with Mason as a wizard.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@mcaslam4756]

i like his ending but ngl i thought season 4 was definitely the best season

[@KrystalBailey019]

I think the whole wizards of waverly place fan base wanted Alex to be more selfless. Alex is known for being selfish, self absorbed, self involved. All the selfs. I want her to be less selfish yk. I get mad at Alex I think she’s a bitch sometimes. And my love for Harper grew because I realized how amazing Harper is.

[@Pingwn]

One thing I really hated is how Max seemed to lose any nuance or complexity, he doesn't really have any arc, not even a love interest in the end if I remember correctly (not that I think a character have to end up with someone but he was the only one), he didn't even have an arc leading to him accepting the fate of becoming mortal, he just didn't even react. He became completely stupid and had nothing to contribute after he became a boy again. (Spoiler for the ending) The ending that we got was a bit wishy-washy, both Alex and Justin keep their powers because both had something to lose,Max lose his because we need someone to lose their power otherwise the whole competition is meaningless. Some of the ideas for the competition are great, like how there is a part that test their care for each other, but even if the entire competition was perfect and amazing I don't think it would hold, because the big question was who is going to win and how are they going to deal with the results? And we didn't get it, the only one to actually lose his powers was the brother that got the least focus and had the least to lose. I also think that if we are going to keep the competition we need to explore why is it necessary. I know it's a comedy show and it never took itself too seriously, but we know the competition can ruin families and the show already had characters questioning the validity of the competition (rest in peace Stevie), so either get to the conclusion the competition is not fair or justified and abolish it or justify it.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@inmyopinionnnn]

“Cuz you’re on your period? “😂😂😂😂

[@trentnation2406]

I NEED A REBOOT!

[@wolvesbane1748]

Jennifer stone looks exactly the same 😂😂

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@FourthStreetSaint]

Would Max’s kids have magic? Would be kinda sad for his kids if Justin and Alex’s kids all got powers while Max’s kids were just there

[@KrystalBailey019]

Jerry also gave up his powers when he married Teresa so max’s kids would have powers

[@Natanaelluna007]

I think that would be cool is the fact she would give them up and have max keep them kinda like Jerry’s siblings max actually would’ve matured and done well I don’t know but to me max got so robbed and Left like he was nothing

[@Alex420xx]

the ending they played was much better than alex giving up her powers sorry jerry

[@STKHub]

Eh, nah. Alex never develops out of her selfishness in the original ending, which was one of the largest plot threads.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@naiiiim]

I love that ending, it’s so much better and organic than that other crap we got.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@StephanieRZ]

Oh my goodness. I love this so much (I love the hilarious inside jokes going on here but it’s truly a group of the sincerity of just wanting the context of the show back: I honestly believe it’s very capable in happening: it just needs to be arranged). Preferably with the original cast, Include Back In Peter M!! 😂❤ That’s forever how I’ll call him during this saga of Bring Back The Show!!! Hahahah. Awh. I love it. It’s very well understood, though since there’s the interest in bringing back the show, I definitely agree it would do great. It deserves to be.

[@Opinions567]

I cried imagining that scenario

[@kindlykaren1313]

David and Jennifer seem very bitter about people who moved on from the show. Like it just wasn’t their life y’all need to get over it

[@TheTurbanator123]

The last time i watched the whole series was summer of 2021. I could not bring myself to watch the last episode of season 4.

[@abortionsurvivorpr]

Thinking about it now, it did feel like a cop out for alex and justin to keep their powers and very disrespectful that max got left in the dust. It should’ve been just one

[@tetragaming6332]

Meh, having Max inherit the sandwich shop means he can create his own part of the Russo family legacy that isn’t bound to contradictory rules. He’s allowed to indulge his creativity without consequences too. He was the sibling who didn’t need to use his magic to get himself into trouble if I remember right. Magic was utilized to aid the antic, but it wasn’t usually the antic itself. If I’m still remembering right, you never looked at him and thought ‘if this guy was turned mortal he wouldn’t know how to do his usual antics, his personality would get a complete overhaul.’ Alex and Justin on the other hand, only had magic based plots and the antics that created their part of the episodes completely centered around their ability to cast and miscast their magic.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@beauhughes1285]

Very Edward scissors hands way of ending the series with Harper

[@absynthefaerie]

I always felt bad for Max for being overlooked at the end. Alex won (which lets be logical she would not have truly won) and Justin, who was the biggest cry baby IMO, still gets his powers because of Professor Crumb deciding “Ohh I am going to retire, you still get to be a wizard even though the rules are only one.” I can guarantee you if Justin would have won both Alex and Max would be out of powers. Basically it ended with fan fair. Too they could never come up with how the competition was go happen. Was it a set date, or not? Was it based on all children “qualifying” or not? I remember there being a point system, but then later Justin mastered 5,000 spells and got to be considered a full wizard (till he exposes wizard world to the Professor Crumb government test and now there is levels and Alex and Justin are a level 1 as punishment.)

[@7aemr]

the best ending is mason is out of the picture entirely. stays a wolf for his actions after he completely breaking alex's heart after confessing his love for juliet and then making her old now leaving justin heartbroken. mason ruined alex and justin's life, he should be gone. after theresa talks to alex, alex now puts her entire energy and focus on the wizard competition. later dean enters back into her life, and alex now seeing dean more mature and able to express his feelings and emotions, talks to jerry about what to do, he tells her to follow her heart. after alex wins, she gives up her powers to be a mortal and be with dean who is also a mortal also knowing that justin wanted to win because he's spent his entire life studying and working for this, and also justin cannot end up with a mortal as we've seen through the entire show he only likes women from the wizarding world. and now that justin has the family power, he is able to change juliet back to her old self in this case young self reverting the damage that mason did. none of this off screen crap that we got

[@clay333]

I never liked Mason and agree he should’ve never been given another chance.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@KrystalBailey019]

Yeah but mason said that werewolves screw up their words

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@jeremysnead9233]

WTH!!! Selena was so coked out she needed new Kidneys. All the adults involved should be ashamed of their connection to Dinsey's and Nick's sitcoms. The Wizards of Waverly Place was an amoral Sitcom. Aleister Crowly's Epicurean ethos is the last thing children should model their morés after. A kid's show should be ethos and should be the primary focus. The show's scripts were, basically recycled dribble filled with plotholes.

[@isabellchun]

😂😂😂😂

[@1ovesyou]

That would have been such a beautiful ending. Alex sharing that moment with Jerry, and finally overcoming her selfishness and giving up her powers for love. Then she would be human and grow old with Harper and Mason (or Dean.) It would’ve been nice if she gave her powers to Justin too, seeing how hard he worked for it and deserved it. I’d like to think Max would be okay with that too!

[@1ovesyou]

I mean, wizards live longer than humans in the show. Alex and Max would get to grow with their family, and Justin would get to continue on for a long time past their lives with Juliet!

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@Robinthangmusic]

I’m so glad it ended the way it did

[@gracilynnprice2883]

What about Maxs, why is he always left behind????

[@SpidermanFan92]

My heart

[@paolachavez6472]

Hang on. I didn't understand the part of Harper reading those stories to kids. Like it was all fantasy?

[@junjunjamore7735]

No, because future Harper wrote a story about the whole thing.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@JunghaKim-vw8vb]

We were robbed T_T

[@theofficialVEVOformu]

This ending would have been perfect

[@dmdudes2]

the whole reason alex had to win was to be able to date mason how y’all accepting this ending

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl .

[@Waywardtrickdogs]

I would have loved this ending

[@mr_coffee9917]

i liked the disney ending, sorry

[@goldiesworld2095]

It was the perfect ending but i don’t like that Justin get his magic and the dad lost his

[@faithmackenzie4729]

The dad gave his powers up to be with their mom

[@taraz6786]

No I wanted Alex to have powers, her relationship with Mason is more equal if she is a wizard and I don’t like the idea of a girl giving up power for a dude, no matter how much I adore the Mason and Alex coupling. 🤔

[@samiam6303]

She was supposed to be mirroring her dad who gave up his magic for a woman without magic. It’s about being selfless for love, not “she gave up everything for him”, because loving someone opens up other opportunities and growth. But maybe I’m overthinking this lol.

[@taraz6786]

@@samiam6303 Yeah but she suits being a wizard. Remember in the actual wizard competition she won, she has more than earned it and it’s not like Mason is human, he’s a werewolf so her being a wizard is better for their relationship. Also giving up a part of yourself and something you have worked hard for is never a good idea, it always leads to resentment.

[@Beyond_That0]

@@taraz6786 Naaaahhhh Selfless love it was the way to go

[@taraz6786]

@@Beyond_That0 It would have been so depressing to watch. 😂

[@noirekuroraigami2270]

@@taraz6786 lol maybe because Alex was a self-insert for you

[@Paradox-es3bl]

"Because you're on your period?" Oh my god. He's dead. 😂 I witnessed a murder. "I'm sorry I'm dead inside." Yeah, honestly, it's a beautiful ending. He shouldn't feel shame in feeling things. I wish I felt things more often. Honestly, if that was how the show ended, I might've cried while watching the final episode, at least. I guess I'll just have to stick with the Seymour Butts episode of Futurama. Not enough shows are allowed to have heart, properly.

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.

[@7aemr]

buddy.. even if alex gave up her powers, SHE CANNOT BE WITH MASON. mason may not be a wizard but he sure ain't a mortal either, so they cannot be together if alex is not a wizard.. did you even pay attention the show you worked on....

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@mr_coffee9917]

exactly

[@goskawow1943]

you completely lost me with non-binary pronouns

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@truthspreader1996]

What's wrong with the word "folks".......?

[@7aemr]

really season 4 felt more like 1 and 2 than 3 did.. sorry bud take your delusional Propaganda elsewhere. i miss the old disney the not gay disney. season 3 felt like odd one out. if things were going well, then disney wouldn't fire someone. if it ain't broke don't fix it, and season 3 needed fixing, hence the replacement in season 4. good day, i said good day daddy - jackson hannah montana

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl

[@mysterypisces]

@caitlinmckillop this might not be SUPER relevant anymore, but I do hope that this new information is helpful

[@mysterypisces]

@caitlinmckillop

[@bitwawesome8020]

Romance girl.