The "True Liberation” of the Netherlands in World War II - The End of WW2 in the Dutch East Indies

[@HistoryHustle]

VOC: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYnZcpVof89pesU Dutch East Indies: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6KrlKx3n5KAsJI War of Indonesian Independence: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWW7e4Rvf7tgjK8

[@thinkersreasoning1575]

You really hit me with a reverse when you said being darker had more privelage ngl.

[@HistoryHustle]

Racism the other way around...

[@BajanEnglishman51]

for real i was like "waIT, ThaTS iLleGal"

[@abcddef2112]

History Hustle That is still just racism, there is no direction in racism.

[@GilangMentariHamidy]

Ahh, so that's the perspective from the Western of the November battle in Surabaya. We Indonesian still celebrates 10 November as the Day of Heroes to commemorate the resistance. In our perspective (at least from what I learned in high school), the Allies troops came to Surabaya to take over the control, and was piggybacked by the Dutch. The main battle happened in the Hotel Orange (Yamato during Japanese, and Majapahit nowadays) where the Dutch flag was raised. This is the one that provoked many Indonesian to see that the Dutch is trying to regain control in the newly independent Indonesia.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing your perspective on this. Since it wasn't the focus point of this episode I didn't elaborate too much on this battle. It were indeed Dutch civilians that raised the Dutch flag on what is now Hotel Majapahit. This angered a lot of Indonesians who then climbed up to tear the blue part of the flag. Later the British arrived. For some reason - I believe even today people speculate about this - something went wrong and it escalated in a full scale battle between the British and Indonesians.

[@GilangMentariHamidy]

@@HistoryHustle yeah perhaps there are lots of trust issues between Indonesians and the Allies. Hence, it escalated into a full-scale war. Moreover, East Java people is culturally known to be more direct and strong in a sense of pride, solidarity, and nationalism. Unlike the people from Central Java which is known to be reserved and self-surpressing. Therefore, it is no wonder that Surabaya and East Java people can be mobilized easily against the Allies forces.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing.

[@abcddef2112]

History Hustle Roeslan Abdulgani gives more prespective, at first he as radio operator gives instruction to the british, like how the landing supposed to be etc. The british didn’t want to be ‘ordered’ and just landed immediately. This considered offensive act by Indonesians, which they responded by attacking.

[@itsme-tq3kz]

Videos like these strike a chord within me, a painful one at that. The Dutch people and media far too often forget about the indigenous troops who fought tooth and nail for the Crown, people whose language they couldn't even speak. People forget about it and try and move on, but there are still thousands of descendants of indigenous veterans who still feel the brutal pain every single day. It hurts that the Netherlands tries to forget, it really does.

[@HistoryHustle]

True. More about that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5vGf3Rma6mGmKs

[@luispalou217]

Excellent again .... WW2 is so huge it is difficult to know all battles and all conflicts Have you investigated the Spanish Blue Division in Eastern Front ??

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks. I will talk about the Spanish Blue Division on Eastern Front in the future. Don't wjon when.

[@raymondlianto9882]

Interesting explanation of the history of the Dutch East Indies👍👍👍.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply.

[@daveanderson3805]

Great work Here in Britain there isn't much available regarding the Dutch East Indies That area of the war in the far east is only really mentioned in passing, if at all ,so your video is welcome But then they always are

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks!

[@Adrian-ju7cm]

Thanks for the video I had some relatives there during WW2

[@HistoryHustle]

You're welcome, thanks for sharing.

[@Adrian-ju7cm]

@@HistoryHustle keep up the good work thanks again

[@fandangofandango2022]

Dear Sir, Your Channel is Very Interesting and good to watch.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching.

[@8000296]

Another great video Stefan!

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you!

[@FlyHigh589]

hi ... I would like you to clear your position on the " colonization " of Indonesia by the Dutch... because seems to me ... you making it look like the Dutch was there as a tourists who got caught in the middle between the Japanese and the Indonesian later .. I am not saying that killing incident people for no reason is a good thing ... because that's the same reason I am asking

[@HistoryHustle]

Please check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6KrlKx3n5KAsJI

[@stever7066]

Very interesting video. Thanks.

[@HistoryHustle]

You're welcome, Steve!

[@weebles58]

Your segments are always informative and well researched. Thank you for preserving real history.

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks, Richard.

[@mademespice4683]

@@HistoryHustle hee ik zou wel patreon willen worden maar heb alleen ideal en geen creditcard hoe los ik dit op?

[@HistoryHustle]

Stuur me even een e-mail via het adres onder aan de beschrijving van iedere video.

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

Good of you that you create light in the oh so underexposed history there! Greets, T.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks. Glad you liked the video.

[@DutchTunisian]

Leuke video!

[@HistoryHustle]

Bedankt!

[@onanthebarbarian4842]

My grandfather was put to work on the Pakan Baroe railway, and then fought under Westerling as a sniper. The disparity between what I've heard from my family, what I had to find out for myself, and what I've been taught in history class has made me quite skeptical to the way our government treats history. The man had some stories to tell, and none were particularly pleasant. It was only a few years ago that the contributions of Moluccan soldiers was even recognized by the government.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing this part of your family's history. Very interesting to read.

[@onanthebarbarian4842]

@@HistoryHustle My family has a peculiar history. The nuclear bombs saved my grandfather's life, as the Japanese were planning on killing all POW's, but his brother was imprisoned at Nagasaki (though I haven't been able to find his name) and died from radiation poisoning. The other half of the family spent the war in Poland, so I tend to not feel much for all the stuff surrounding the may days. The war must have left a peculiar scar on the Dutch psyche that the people felt such a need to shrink it down to only this small country, and to lionize the rather mundane suffering and courage of the ordinary citizen. More a scar of humiliation than of injury, despite the Famine doing a good job at getting some real numbers going.

[@HistoryHustle]

Again Thanks for sharing. Poland also wasn't a nice place to be in during WWII...

[@bradleypierce1561]

I am a Canadian, and I’ve always been very proud of Canada’s role in liberating the Netherlands. I am also the grandson of a Holocaust refugee. My paternal grandmother was a German Jew who managed to escape Nazi Germany in 1938 to flee to Canada. I heard that she was one of the last Jews to escape Germany, and one of the very few that Canada accepted. What has always bothered me was the level of collaboration that the Dutch had with the Nazis, and the huge number of Dutch Jews who were liquidated because of that collaboration. I do, and will continue to love the Netherlands, but there will always be that uneasy feeling I have when I reflect on that history. My last trip to Amsterdam, I visited the Anne Frank House. I have travelled to the Netherlands twice, and I look forward to my next trip there.

[@rthjong]

I am very grateful for what the Canadians did liberating the Netherlands. I used to live in the east of the Netherlands and there are a number of war cemeteries there. All young people, thousands of them, very sad. Canadians never got the credit the Amaricans or the British got but basically they liberated the Netherlands. Thank you!

[@rthjong]

Bradley Pierce 🇳🇱🇨🇦🇳🇱

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing, Bradley!

[@Hollywood2021]

A lot of countries were bullied into collaborating with Germany.

[@booktendersclub1110]

Now you understand why the Dutch rule was no longer welcome in Indonesia. Imagine recolonizing a faraway colony after experiencing Nazi occupation. Enough is enough. Forget the empire. Rebuild your own country.

[@dutchman7216]

Thank you I appreciate what you're work.

[@HistoryHustle]

You're welcome.

[@AVKnecht]

I think of my self of a highly educated man in terms of history but this is a subject I knew practically nothing about. Thank you for your great work!

[@HistoryHustle]

Great to hear. You're welcome. Thanks for your message.

[@frankwhite3406]

A most interesting and informative episode indeed!

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks!

[@johnnyfortpants1415]

Thanks man, I learned a lot here. Sad the way people had to die even when the war was over.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you for your reply.

[@achmadbenbela1532]

Why don't you tell what the Dutch did in Indonesia durring the colonialism. What happened with Capt Westerling in South Sulawesi?

[@HistoryHustle]

Why don't you take a look at the scope of this video and realize this video isn't about Westerling ánd search for a video on this channel that does, like this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWW7e4Rvf7tgjK8 You're welcome.

[@josh-ke9gl]

Great channel! 50k this year

[@HistoryHustle]

Let's hope so! :)

[@JohnnoDordrecht]

Very well made and keep on going !

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you!

[@thegametwins7553]

Do u know a video about the Japanese invasion of the Dutch east indies

[@HistoryHustle]

One of my oldest. Enjoy ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXvLfKeuZriFpNk

[@surinfarmwest6645]

Very interesting and not something I was aware of.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your message.

[@HikmaHistory]

Sometimes I forget that the Dutch had colonies, haha.

[@MrSleepy677]

Oh they did, Including New Amsterdam.

[@HikmaHistory]

@@MrSleepy677 New York, right?

[@HistoryHustle]

The Dutch East Indies was the largest.

[@MrSleepy677]

@@HikmaHistory People just like it better that way.

[@hanantyofiradiputro107]

Nice video 👍

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks!

[@kylelee4682]

My oma was in camp u should interview her!

[@HistoryHustle]

I did do quite some interviews already. Thanks.

[@kylelee4682]

@HistoryHustle That's great! Would you mind posting the link for me if it's posted?

[@godsowndrunk1118]

Great video. I knew the Dutch had been driven out after the end of the war, but was unaware of the extent of the slaughter of innocent people, or who had been behind it. Thanks for the education.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks as always!

[@yudhacapay2128]

You mean the slaughter of indonesian people right mate?

[@rafaeljanssen6691]

Its amazing how everything you say is told with excitement!!!

[@HistoryHustle]

I try my best to be captivating. Thanks, Rafael!

[@rafaeljanssen6691]

@@HistoryHustle sure you do! Honesty you are the best... keep the good work up.

[@johnryder1713]

Those poor people, after 5 years of living hell to be massacred like they were by people they lived alongside for so long. As well as the Japanese fighting alongside the Brits, something that happened in Vietnam also post the war. Well done for trying to highlight something deserves more attention.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your message.

[@boenzitem8747]

We sorry that many Dutch Civilian also killed by the Indonesian during the "Masa Bersiap". The period when everything that associated with Dutch Colonialism were considered as enemy/traitor. It's all because of the suspicion that the NICA will stab from the back during the Independence War by using them.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply.

[@jimmyrebel9385]

Interesting to hear the Dutch perspective of what happened. Most Indonesian comments here are disgusting to condone murder and massacre of Civilians. No matter what, this is unacceptable Condolences from an Indonesian whose grandparents studied in the Netherland.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply.

[@Marrr00]

PETA, heiho, Jibakutai, Lasjkar Hisboelah, Lasjkar Sabilillah

[@HistoryHustle]

More pro-Japanese organisations I assume?

[@IchabodvanTassel98]

​@@HistoryHustlesome of them yes, many more are religion-based

[@justastickman4321]

As a Canadian I was confused by what u mean

[@HistoryHustle]

What are you exactly confused about?

[@justastickman4321]

@@HistoryHustle sorry I worded it wrong. When I first read the title and saw Japanese soldiers I wad confused by what you meant by true liberation of the Netherlands I thought Canada liberated them.

[@HistoryHustle]

True, although this video is about the Dutch citizens in the Dutch East Indies.

[@justastickman4321]

@@HistoryHustle I think you should have put that in the title though?

[@HistoryHustle]

It is in the title. Please read it fully.

[@mariyanadobreva8724]

Thank you ever so much for your video. I am very interested in WW2, especially in Asia. You do a really important work, reminding of the suffering of all these victims of the barbarity of the Japanese "liberators" of Asia. Colonialism or not, I find unforgivable the collaboration with the Japanese occupants (in Indonesia, but also in Burma - Myanmar, Malaysia, etc.), especially that in these countries, the JIA made more victims among the native population for a few years, than the colonial powers for centuries. Do you know any Dutch films about the Japanese occupation ? I watched several British and Australian movies and series, but could not find Dutch productions on KZbin. Could you recommend me some titles, if possible with English or French subtitles ? Dank u zeer (my Dutch is extremely limited).

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. About Dutch films. These are rare. An upcoming one will be De Oost (2021) / The East (2021). An older one is Gordel van Smaragd. Can't tell where to find it. There is also Oeroeg which deals about the 1945-49 period. It's online with English subs here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKjUgGurp5yBkJI

[@mariyanadobreva8724]

@@HistoryHustle Thank you for your information ! I have already watched Oeroeg and the trailer of Gordel van Smaragd which seems very interesting. I will try to find it.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@absolutfreeman1033]

Any Indonesian?

[@HistoryHustle]

Some are around but not many this time I believe...

[@aldidaily]

Me

[@IchabodvanTassel98]

Me

[@worlds3061]

Although yes the Pemudas were a little bit extreme, they had no intention to fought the British and Indian troops. they fought back because they relized the British had also brought Dutch soldiers with them, so obiviously we ready up ourselves because we were afraid that they will again colonize our motherland.

[@HistoryHustle]

We see here a 'clash' of perspectives. That's what makes history and especially this part of history so interesting. Thanks for your input.

[@motengfreeTV1990]

Waktu itu kakeku ikut perang melawan inggris di surabaya dan kedua pamanya kakeku meninggal

[@IchabodvanTassel98]

​@@motengfreeTV1990kereen

[@_____Z_____]

Dutch War criminals should be punished! My deepest condolences for Indonesians🇷🇺🇮🇩

[@HistoryHustle]

I'm not surprised by your reaction. This video is about Dutch civilians in internment camps. Later during the Indonesian War of Independence Dutch military committed many war crimes. No Dutch war were punished for this or only light. A sad case, but that is beyond the scope of this episode.

[@xXTheoLinuxXx]

@@HistoryHustle there were crimes at both sides. My late neighbour served at the 'KNIL' and was born in Batavia. He didn't like to talk about the war, but he had seen enough what 'they' (the independence 'army' ) did with innocent dutch women and childeren. I knew him for 35 years and he was a very reasonable and honest man, and I have no reason to doubt him. In most wars there are 2 camps, doing awful things.

[@_____Z_____]

@@HistoryHustle Who knows maybe Dutch committed some war crimes during Ww2, But no one knows about it! Sorry for going 'off topic'

[@_____Z_____]

@@xXTheoLinuxXx are you from Indonesia?

[@xXTheoLinuxXx]

@@_____Z_____ No I'm Dutch, but I grew up in a neighbourhood with a lot of Indonesian people (Java, Bali and Ambon).

[@aurathedraak7909]

yay meer nederlands.

[@HistoryHustle]

Ja toch.

[@muhammadrio8165]

Please subtitle Indonesia

[@HistoryHustle]

Sorry, Muhammad.

[@gff6929]

Dude just learn english its easy

[@ericvantassell6809]

You need to hustle more. We need more history lest we don't learn from the past and repeat those mistakes. You could save countless lives if you only traded a few hours of sleep for research and video production.

[@HistoryHustle]

I see.

[@scarletcrusade77]

History Hustle is red pilled

[@HistoryHustle]

I see..

[@scarletcrusade77]

@@HistoryHustle Thats a good thing my dutch friend! I enjoy your work, keep it up! Would be great to see videos about the Batavia Republic & Dutch Caribbean colonies as they're not spoken of as much

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@salsheikh4508]

Often overlooked when WW2 is dumbed down to Good vs. Evil....

[@HistoryHustle]

Indeed. Thanks for your comment.

[@leighmeagher6836]

Quite a lot of Dutch East Indies colonists emigrated to Australia as well.

[@HistoryHustle]

Yes indeed. Not sure if they went straight from Indonesia to Australia.

[@abcddef2112]

Some emigrated to Singapore too, many chinese-indo went there. Though strangely my grandma’s aunt stayed, her family is from bandung. She lived long live of almost 100 died in 2015. Sadly, not many content on chinese peranakan-indo, and mostly people just absorbed to the broader chinese indonesian culture.

[@leighmeagher6836]

abcd def that would be a cool KZbin video...

[@abcddef2112]

Leigh Meagher Yes haha petition for ‘Tjabang Atas’ videos. It’s sad they are forgotten even though they are every part of colonial Indies structure, even I don’t know. It took me a while to realize ‘Oma Beek’ is not chinese name.

[@caslinden1373]

Gekoloniseerd

[@HistoryHustle]

Blijft leuk. Soort van.

[@caslinden1373]

@@HistoryHustle echt hè 🤣🇳🇱

[@wurlitzerlibertyinc.1612]

BZ

[@HistoryHustle]

BZ?

[@wurlitzerlibertyinc.1612]

@@HistoryHustle Bravo Zulu, also referred to as "BZ," is a naval signal, typically conveyed by flaghoist or voice radio, meaning "Well Done" with regard to actions, operations or performance.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks! I learn something every day:)

[@JimmyStiffFingers]

They don't teach what atrocities were committed during the Bersiap, etc in Indonesia. They have a very rosey image of what happened back then.

[@HistoryHustle]

Who is "they"? In today's history text books in NL the Bersiap is mentioned.

[@JimmyStiffFingers]

@@HistoryHustle the people in Indonesia.

[@DRFelGood]

Excellent research 👍 Thank you for sharing

[@HistoryHustle]

You're welcome!

[@abcddef2112]

Kinda funny Netherlands still has no Sukarno Street even for street naming based on anti-colonial leaders maybe the bitterness run deep.

[@HistoryHustle]

I believe there were plans for this...

[@abcddef2112]

History Hustle www.thejakartapost.com/amp/academia/2019/09/04/how-amsterdam-ignores-sukarno-as-anticolonial-leader.html

[@worlds3061]

Indonesia : This is where the fun begins

[@noud3476]

Fun? You looked up the indo casualties? We kicked your asses.

[@mademespice4683]

@@noud3476 the dutch pulled indeed out because the americans threatent to take away our rebuild funds not because of the indo army

[@fakyu9346]

@@mademespice4683 yea, american kicked ur ass

[@HistoryHustle]

Wouldn't call WWII and its aftermath fun...

[@mademespice4683]

@@HistoryHustle it is indeed not fun but it is an interresting and important subject of history