The True Nature Of Child Stardom

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[@trinaq]

Jennette McCurdy's autobiography, I'm Glad my Mom Died", really says a lot about her toxic childhood, and how she was forced to be the primary breadwinner of the family from a young age. I hope that she's in a better place emotionally, now that she's retired from screen acting.

[@socksfersold]

It’s the first time a book makes me wanna read again

[@TheGuardianssorrow]

I just got the audiobook and just the opening was hard to listen to! 😭 “Without my mom, who am I supposed to be?” I felt that to deep.

[@kenziecullen4434]

I just finished reading it today, and I can safely say that *I’m* glad her mom died!

[@sidneyvictor7887]

Totally thought that this was where the video was going.

[@zionculley1862]

Oooooooooo

[@sophiagomez1892]

So apparently when I was young, I was scouted at a Walmart. My mom refused and when I was a kid hearing this story, I was mad that my mom didn’t say yes. She said she wanted me to be a kid and I didn’t understand. As an adult, I knew it was because she cared. And I appreciate it

[@TheVoidedRealm]

I wanted to be a model. I enjoyed dressing up in you know clothing to very tame and cute clothing, Having a light flash and looking at the end product made me really happy. They offered my parents the job, but my parents had different plans to live a normal life that hurt my heart badly as a kid I always and still do wanna be a model. Sadly I'm smoll and not that great looking even if people say I'm beautiful.

[@MikaylaisaWindmill]

that’s a great mum right there

[@savannaaah]

The same thing happened to me but with a ‘modeling agent’

[@CamcrossJayStudio]

You probably wouldn’t took off anyway there’s lots of wannabes out there that never make it

[@sophiagomez1892]

@@CamcrossJayStudio ok? Lol

[@erniefofernie]

Shirley Temple grew into a stunning young woman, I don’t understand why Hollywood was no longer interested in giving her roles. The philanthropy she dedicated the rest of her life to is very admirable.

[@elithornton5217]

Because they like them younger. Children= profit

[@hope-cat4894]

Because she actually turned out ok despite the trauma she went through. She had a healthy set of boundaries that they wanted to keep pushing and they knew she wasn't interested in being taken advantage of.

[@tw9991]

Although if the producers and her agents really put their mind to they probably could have avoided this. She probably was very typecasted, especially with her being known with those big roles she had all were so similar.

[@Treeeee2008]

They didn't want a beautiful young woman, they wanted a cute kid, I'm sure some people recognized her talents, but it just wasn't what the executives wanted.

[@valkyriedarquese]

You get black listed if you don't sleep with producers

[@AnymousScreams]

I'm impressed people like Drew Barrymore or McCaullay Culkin turned out okay after years of working on their issues from being a child star.

[@joecollas9942]

They were on a very dark road as well

[@AnymousScreams]

Very much so. I'm glad they turned out okay.

[@therealCrazyJake]

For a while, they weren’t okay… thankfully they were able to turn things around for themselves with the support of friends and rehab. From what I heard, Adam Sandler was a big help with Drew Berrymore getting her life back on track; say what you will about Sandler’s career, but he does seem like a caring and supportive friend and an all around good guy.

[@AnymousScreams]

@@therealCrazyJake I think he seems like a solid dude. He makes movies he wants to do, and often does them for fun, from what I heard.

[@DistressedDamsel79]

Idk about McCaullay, but Drew comes from a family of actors and her godfather is Steven Spielberg. It’s not 100% the case, but the child stars who make it out, whether they decide to pursue a career in entertainment or not, seem to have a really good support system and/or come from a wealthier background. An exception would be Demi Lovato who was the bread winner of their family and also didn’t come from a stable family life. Their story reminds me a bit of Shirley Temple’s at the beginning of the video.

[@alessandrajackson3768]

Child stars is one of those things that should be considered abuse that never are! Assaults, mental health issues, addiction, countdowns to 18th birthdays, grooming, eating disorders and more!

[@blessedcocoa5729]

I never heard about the 18th birthday countdown till Millie Bobby Brown. I was horrified. How does any one think that is OK. I'm 19 and I still feel like a child much less when I was 18. It's horrific. I'm not surprised anymore when child actors go mad. And I've been through SA at 5, gained an ED and anxiety, I can't imagine growing up with that repeatedly happening and no one helping, and everyone looking into ur personal life and judging you or treating you like a spectacle. People are just sick.

[@alessandrajackson3768]

@@blessedcocoa5729 absolutely. I’ll be honest I feel like my generation was still minors until about 21. And yea sadly there were men 40+ participating in that count down as well

[@DedlyBonk.]

Drew Barrymore really was the worst experience I’ve read/heard about, she went through every form of abuse possible, not to mention her mother allowed all of it to happen and even encouraged it.

[@idreamed_adream]

Agreed. She dealt with drug addiction at like 9-11 years old I think. I did a biography project on her in school. Her story is really impactful.

[@thesapphireone]

At the very least, she eventually managed to break away from the drugs, abuse, her mother, and made better life for herself, I hope she’s still doing well.

[@psychedelicpayroll5412]

@@thesapphireone She still financially supports her mother

[@psychedelicpayroll5412]

Spielberg was touching Drew and Heather O’rouke at the same time back then.

[@charmander466]

I'm honestly just glad shes thriving. there are so many bad stories, and she had a baaaaaaadd one, but here she is with a show, doing tik toks being happy in the rain. My girl has thrived. Just wish someone was there back in the day.

[@TDLBallistic]

Funfact: they killed off Carl in TWD because his actor, Chandler Riggs, turned 18, and they didn't want to pay him an adult wage. Every person on set was surprised by his death in the script, because if you know, Carl is one of the most important characters in the comics and is still alive as I type this. It's REALLY shitty.

[@therealCrazyJake]

Wait, for real?! That makes Carl’s death EVEN MORE UPSETTING!!

[@TDLBallistic]

@@therealCrazyJake I'm not sure if it was ever outright stated, I kind of stopped giving a shit about TWD show after that, but it was heavily implied and the timing was right.

[@bethanyvarre9142]

He eve applied for college in Georgia for that show

[@TDLBallistic]

@@bethanyvarre9142 he applied for college in the area AND moved closer too.

[@cloudsombrero]

What's really shitty is they didn't even tell him they were planning it and he even was choosing to go to college in georgia to say on the show

[@groovymovie3213]

Poor Shirley was robbed of her childhood. One time there was an incident on set when she was still little (I believe) around Christmas time where her belief in Santa Claus was completely shattered when the man dressed as Santa pulled down his beard and asked for her autograph. Her mother would also make her cry on purpose on set if she wasn’t faking it well enough on camera.

[@chanceharding8585]

That's messed up

[@Mirage42069]

Her mother was the equivalent of a modern family channel

[@dmichael7144]

Imagine dying and no one even knows who you are for years and your loved ones don’t even know that you’re dead. Poor Driscoll! Poor Temple too. The fact that her parents pretty much let all those old men drop their pants in front of their daughter and stole all of her money is infuriating!

[@chanceharding8585]

Bad Parenting is an understatement!!!

[@killyyy370]

Goddamn O'Driscoll's

[@soundslikepepsi2348]

😊😊

[@sineadbrennan-allen6045]

yeah i know they really did my ^irish^ heritage/that guy/the bobby guy who is loosely related to me dirty here (thanks a lot disney/dickney for ruining this guy's life)

[@trinaq]

Child Stardom is a shady business, and if I ever had children, I would never force them into a toxic environment like Hollywood, unless they were really passionate about performing. They deserve a childhood, first and foremost, not to be subjected to the fickle, seedy entertainment industry.

[@WSendam]

I hope your okay man I really hate that child stars are still a thing and now KZbinrs are in on it I’m glad people are fighting back against this stuff also have a great day

[@chanceharding8585]

Screw big Companies man!! 😡

[@ma.2089]

It is possible to put your child through that and still have them turn out okay. That said, it seems like if your parents are like the Sprouse twins, and if you’re a boy (Alyson Stoner did pretty good too, but not as good as the Sprouse twins, who also cite the gender differences in exploitation/societal pressures) you can get out relatively unscathed. It’s still not something that ppl should jump into tho, but if they at least do what the Sprouse family did, things could be ok.

[@ma.2089]

I realize it sounds like I’m implying guys got it “easier”. They don’t, it’s just a tiny bit more likely that they can get out fine just cuz of how ppl see girls and boys differently in society. But even so, it’s very difficult to get out fine overall, and you need to have REALLY good parents to do it, which sadly is a rarity for everyone, regardless of gender.

[@ravenloh6677]

I wanted to add that the directors who had Bobby Millie Brown in their shows and movies said "I can't wait for her to turn 18 so I can do more stuff to her. " That's creepy. Imagine a film director and producer say to little kids : "I can't wait for you to turn 18 so we can make more profit out of your body."

[@jasperrose1930]

Your "can't wait for you to turn 18" comment reminded me of a family friend we used to have. I grew up around him, his kids, his wife- Ect up until I was maybe.. 13 or 14? (Because he and a friend of his did some horrible shit to my older sister, of which is a whole other issue in itself) But he used to say to me all the time "Can't wait until you're legal so I can marry/any other adult thing you" And me, as a kid, didn't understand how fucking creepy that is. I was just a self conscious fat kid, with a shitty home life that took his comments as compliments. But considering what he turned out to be, and my other experiences with predators later on? THAT was a big red flag, that it still surprises me my parents never found it creepy.

[@ravenloh6677]

@@jasperrose1930 This is why I vomit when I see people cheer on Child Beauty Contests and Kid Dance Shows because the parents and the producers are exploiting them through cosmetics, skimpy clothing and sexual dance moves. Does the movie "Cuties" ring a bell?

[@crow-t-robot]

That is so disgusting. Back when Emma Watson was still underage, they'd publish countdowns in the media/tabloids until she turned 18. I remember the same stuff happening around the Olsen twins. When Stranger Things had just come out, MBB was what, 12 or 13? I can still remember the sickening sexual comments about her on social media and I knew she would suffer a similar fate. Absolutely horrifying honestly.

[@Scarshadow666]

Yeah, and it's kinda creepy how so many countdown elements are somewhat normalized in society in general, as well as in the entertainment industry. The stereotype where whenever a girl starts puberty is told that "they're a woman now" is messed up (and I wouldn't be surprised if some societal standards that are creepy come from hold-overs of previous centuries when children were in circumstances to grow up quicker).

[@dougxvale]

MILLIE Bobbie Brown

[@psychedelicpayroll5412]

You should of mentioned Jackie Coogan. He was the first child star who actually had to sue his parents because they stole all his money. And a law was put in place called The Jackie Coogan law which requires the parents to make a trust fund account for the children in Hollywood. But they have loopholes and many parents seem to have taken advantage of it.

[@Mrs_Sugar_Min]

Yeah the law is always being updated. 😶😶

[@minespatch]

He's great as Uncle Fester but it's such a shame of what he went through.

[@wildboywifey6485]

Jeanette McCurdy's mom didn't get her Coogan account setup properly so all that money that should've been in there has never been given to her. Out of all the adults in her life (agent, on set tutor, director, adult cast, etc), not one of them was able to make sure the account was setup. Also I've heard only a small percent (10% I think?) is put into the Coogan account.

[@therealCrazyJake]

I thought the Coogan Law was set up to prevent Studios from width-holding the child actor’s earnings after they “left” the studio. Or am I misremembering something?

[@ma.2089]

@@wildboywifey6485 good thing mom died then. Maybe she got some of the money then

[@cameronguzman-keller477]

As someone who grew up watching Shirley Temple films, I had no idea about all the horrible things she went through as a child. No one should ever have to deal with all the abuse, grooming, and torture like these kids did. I’m glad there are those like Jeanette McCurdy who are healing from the trauma, but at the same time, it’s something that should’ve never happened in the first place.

[@kiwiequis4144]

I had this one friend that said “who cares? Celebrities can afford therapy” and after that I unfortunately learned how fucking common this VERY CONCERNING mindset is… it’s ok to push trauma, assault and abuse aside because you THINK they can afford professional help to fix the trauma they shouldn’t have gone through?

[@SageArdor]

For a lot of these celebrities, it's not about affording it. It's knowing that seeking it requires exposing the abuse, which is all but guaranteed to get them fired and/or blacklisted.

[@Scarshadow666]

Definitely agree that it's a very concerning mindset! 0_0 Here's hoping that the issues with the Internet/social media gets people out of that mindset and teaches people to be more empathetic, as it seems to do nothing else for celebrities other than dehumanize them and put them on a higher pedestal. With the Internet/social media, a lot of the issues celebrities go through are no longer exclusive to them - anybody has the possibility of going through them too now that it's easier for people to project themselves than ever before.

[@SuperSara924]

That’s a disgusting mindset. No one deserves to be traumatized, and everyone should get help through therapy regardless of their wealth/status. The fact people still think that way is so disappointing

[@Scarshadow666]

@@SuperSara924 Definitely true!

[@thewanderingronin1924]

@@SageArdor Not true considering the therapist can get in trouble if he or she tells but I get everything else your saying

[@kittyandbunnyPATD]

I want to cry about Bobby Driscoll. I can’t imagine what he was thinking in his final moments, tossed aside by the world like that and left to die all alone. It’s so horrible

[@hennessygarciahg]

Let’s all cry together

[@1.21gigawatts2]

From the ages of about 3 to 9, my mother would force me to participate in child modeling. She would design the clothes, I would wear them. I actually became famous on a small scale in my state because I went on to win dozens of competitions. I even went on to become the Pineapple Prince. Because of this I was in newspapers often which resulted in me landing some commercials which I of course didn't want to do. Naturally dressing a kid in a bunch of goofy outfits is going to get them bullied and because I was in the newspapers all of the time my school found out. For my entire time at school I was viciously bullied all because I was forced to do something I had no interest in doing. Kids would never refer to me by my name. Instead I would be called f*ggot or p*ssy. Thankfully I never suffered like any of the children in these videos did and I received most of my earnings when I became 18 but it still took me a while to forgive my mom.

[@SpellboundWolf]

What time period was this?

[@1.21gigawatts2]

@@SpellboundWolf This occurred from 1996 to around 2002ish. This was back when newspapers were actually relevant.

[@kenya1067]

I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you are doing alright these days.

[@Dij7897]

I hope you do more child star videos like this! I didn’t know about Orlando Brown’s past and my siblings and I used to be so confused as to what the hell happened to him. But how they dropped him is ridiculous and I hope he’s in recovery now.

[@nicripolas816]

I do not think he is

[@TheNinjaNiky]

He's not unfortunately, he needs mental help. Idk if you've watched any interviews or something with him but he's got something going on in his head. And it's a shame nobody seems to be trying to help him. I personally think he should've maybe became a comedian because he is a funny person

[@nicripolas816]

@@TheNinjaNiky He truly is genuinely funny. Even when he's clearly coked (or whatever drug is his vice these days) out of his mind. As someone who has struggled with addiction, it's sad to see. Such raw talent, but his life fucked him up so much he needed, and feels he still needs, drugs to cope.

[@TheNinjaNiky]

@@nicripolas816 he really is, I find my laughing at him all the time. Not because he's a car wreck, but because he is just hilarious. Even when he's being crazy. He really needs to stop bringing Simone into things though, that poor girl just wants to be left out of it. It's just in really bad taste, especially since they were both so young when they dated.

[@ma.2089]

@@TheNinjaNiky Simone herself seems to be more sympathetic to him tho. She clearly finds it uncomfortable, but she also understands what he went through and has shown care for him. I’m glad she’s able to support him somewhat at least.

[@0iqgremlin414]

Miley Cyrus popped into my head almost immediately, she was a big disney star when I was young, she was Hannah Montana. Then when Disney dropped her years later she was openly mocked when she was hitting her "acting out" phase

[@ghoulishtoad]

Which wasnt even that bad like oooohh shes wearing something slightly more than a bikini on a wrecking ball and licked a sledgehammer ooohh so wild

[@bobtheball5384]

@@ghoulishtoadYeah fr though, people act like she was the wildest change but tbh it was very lukewarm in comparison to other childstars. Still feel bad for her though.

[@trishaishot462]

@@bobtheball5384 she did that to get image of being a disney star out of peoples way of thinking but she did that so people stop treating her like she is a role model when she is human just like everyone else and now she seems like a pretty normal person cause she is and industry can be pretty evil

[@527398]

And you'd be right. Let's just say her claims that, "it's her freedome" and that "she's free" have a real, legitimate ground. She's absolutely traumatized, but I'm afraid she might never speak on any of it. It'll definitely get her fully blacklisted and probably...worse.

[@AnaAcuraErica]

@@ghoulishtoadughh well personally I thought it was low class n trashy that that white girl ket sticking her damn tongue out everywhere! And her vma performance sucked ass! Also, she didn’t come off as humble whatsoever which was very off putting

[@Hessed3712]

The star from “The Famous Jet Jackson,” had a very sad life. He ended up ending his life because of all of the crap he went through.

[@John-Doe-Yo]

I remember he was bipolar but what happened to make his life very sad?

[@coltkillergaming5685]

Macaulay caulkin is the must obvious example of how it can ruin lives I’m glad he mostly recovered

[@dougxvale]

Same with Lindsay Lohan. Glad she moved out of the US and her life/career improved.

[@bedsidebetty]

You have no clue how many times the story of Bobby Driscoll has brought me to tears. I'm so glad that more people are talking about it.

[@hennessygarciahg]

Same

[@brendan9868]

Hearing that Shirley Temple knee’d that dude in the nuts really puts a smile on my face. Glad she seems to of gotten out of that cycle of abuse and got to live just a normal life

[@inktonythekaonashigaster6631]

I always had a bad feeling about child acting in Hollywood, but hearing about Bobby Driscoll and Shirley Temple... it's heart breaking. Poor kid's had their own childhoods ripped out of their hands by their families and forced into a cruel place like the acting industry, makes me want to go back in time and give them a hug, tell em it's going to be alright and that their voice will be heard.

[@hennessygarciahg]

I feel the same way

[@hope-cat4894]

There might as well be a child actors guild or union to prevent these unsafe conditions. Repeat offenders like Disney and Nickelodeon seem to have _way_ too many kid actors going through struggles when they get older. Companies that rely on kids for profit should have higher standards of safety to watch out for abusive stage parents and creepy studio staff.

[@KingOfGaymes]

I’m sure they’d find a way around it sadly .. they always do

[@TheManWhoErasedHisNane]

And that’s why most people don’t like disney as a corporation making shitty movies is one thing but raising kids as money farms then tossing them like trash when they’re not kids anymore is just plain vile.

[@ghoulishtoad]

They dont care tho they just want money as good of an idea it is its not gonna happen this is all a symptom of our hellscape capitalist society

[@whimai412]

Honestly it would be interesting to see more on this like a multipart series. There is a lot of child stars to cover. 🤔

[@Batmanstabbingadog]

Nick and Disney: child stars! Cartoon Network: WTF!

[@P-P-Panda]

I was never a child star, but my dad would record us and try to get us to make money and only think of business at a young age with our skills. So I’m thinking about work and having children and their children all at the age of 7. I couldn’t even go to Public school because of him and had to travel everywhere for more work. So like my social skills are horrible. Even tho I wasn’t in the child-star work like them and only had a “microscopic” taste of it, That shit hurts and still stresses me out to this day. Especially when they constantly bring it up and make it your fault for not succeeding how they wanted you too. I feel for these kids/and grown child stars so much 🙏 great video btw

[@JIMBOMcGramble]

Pig: just talking about the most fucked up shit The bird: just fucking dancing and vibing

[@svenskaela1234561]

When I was a child talent agencies would come to our school and pretend they are just there for fun teaching us to model, act… but they actually scout kids. I got scouted after they lined us up and made us walk like models down a line. I took the card to my parents not knowing what it is and my grandma was so excited she wanted me to become a star but my parents refused. I was maybe 7 so I don’t remember much but it was one of the bigger fights my mom and grandma had. A few years ago there was a big scandal bcs a few people who were in the company came out and accused it of grooming and SA when they were kids. Idk what would have happened if my grandma had her way and I actually signed with them.

[@tornadodee148]

what did your grandma say when she found out about the scandal? her face must of been priceless. your mum must rub it in her face, like, every time they talk now.

[@Mia199603]

Wtf were the authorities at your school doing while you were wasting time posing and playing models instead of actually learning the stuff you should've been learning at school?

[@emmikate]

Bobby Driscoll has always had a spot in my heart. Thank you for covering him.

[@emmikate]

Seriously. Thank you. I am sad they did this in the movie and I am glad more know about this.

[@hennessygarciahg]

Me too

[@Sinamuna]

Man, I didn't know about Orlando Brown... I'm so sorry he's going through that. I hope he does get serious help and improves.

[@acemarvel1564]

Thank you for the history of celebrity trafficking

[@ninjanibba4259]

It pales in comparison to actual human trafficking

[@slightlyhoopla4215]

20:20 talks about child stars moving on and getting better. Shows picture of Demi freaking Lovato

[@meggnogg]

This made me think of those articles that are like 'The child actors from your favourite childs TV shows/ films- where are they now?' with a surprisingly high amount basically saying 'unfortunately they couldn't get any more acting roles because they got old so now they live a totally normal life with a normal job, married with kids- such a shame they were so talented'

[@jenniferschillig3768]

Peter Ostrum, who played Charlie Bucket in Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory, was smart. He was a talented little guy--it takes a special kind of child actor to make me feel like his character is a real kid and not a Precocious Hollywood Moppet (tm). Which was true of all the Willy Wonka child actors. But Peter decided one acting job was enough, and had a quiet but fulfilling career as a veterinarian. (Making animals well is okay in my book.)

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

@@jenniferschillig3768 Thus proving he really was the good-hearted kid he played in the movie.

[@ILikeTheIvy]

I always go to what happened to Corey haim, river phoenix, drew Barrymore, Jonathan brandis... drugs, abuse, being forgotten , being surrounded by people who want your money or don't help or care for you. The stories of these children being passed around, or given drugs before they're even teenagers. It's a disgusting scary business.

[@conandabarbarian]

The Punishment Box sounds like something Miss Trunchbowl from Matilda would install next to the Chokey. 😬

[@Promthanius]

Jonathan Brandis and Brad Renfero are also super sad stories. Dying alone just makes it worse

[@josephsawyer3982]

This is a topic you can revisit over and over again, the 2 Corey's and so many others before and after. It's a very relevant conversation.

[@SuperSara924]

I feel some of the blame for former child stars having emotional breakdowns can be placed on the parents not protecting them. A good example of a child star with great parents is Mara Wilson aka Matilda. They were very protective of her, made sure she only had parts appropriate for her age, and made sure she got to be a normal kid too. When she decided she didn’t wanna act anymore they let her stop, and she is now a well-adjusted adult who does writing/charity work. At the end of the day, the parents are the ones putting their kids into acting. Even if they wanna act, its the parents responsibility to keep them safe. But too many parents are leeching off their kids and living vicariously through them, they fail their main task as a parent.

[@dizzydee6362]

Of course we've come leaps and bounds from sitting kids on ice blocks and giving them cigarettes and pills to suppress appetites cause they're 'too fat,' but then things like the stories of Jennette McCurdy and Alexa Nikolas come forward and it's revealed how much further we have to go to protect kids in the industry.

[@ThatDudeWithBoobs]

Glad to see you're letting Shadow become a big part of your videos, definitely helps to get through the more serious topics.

[@idreamed_adream]

Agreed

[@TheYoungGeninSasuke]

Bug hall from the little rascals 1994 film, came out to talk about his experience in Hollywood at a young age on his youtube channel. It was very sad.

[@LucyInNightmares1]

The kid who did the voice for Peter Pan had a very tragic life

[@thebusinesswoman23]

Appreciate the comments about how you're not a "bad person" if you struggle with substance use or mental health issues. You'd think it's common sense to understand this idea, but it's still prevalent in society today. Stigma kills .

[@16driver16]

Shirley Temple was in a thing called "BABY BURLESQUE"

[@reypapi655]

I think Orlando Brown is a grown man speaking his childhood truth .. Maybe he was touched as a child or seen something .. We don’t know how his childhood was he’s been acting since the 80’s you can imagine who’s he’s been around .. Sending Healing Energy

[@ItsHappyHourArchived]

Craziest thing about shirley temples story. 44k in 1940’s when she wouldve become of age to take it, is 800,000 in todays money and 3 million wouldve been worth 60 million today. So dont get me wrong she still had loads of money to buy and invest in whatever she needed to continue to stay rich. But the fact that her parents stole 59 million is insane🤣

[@liberpolo5540]

I especially hate how we, as an audience turn a blind eye away from this in order to not have "our childhood ruined" and instead put the blame on the victim and make fun of them like the asshats we are.

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

Sometimes fans hate a person who just wanted to make a passion project The sequel to Battle Royale was mostly made by the directors son after he died an people shit on the sons for not being his father

[@ma.2089]

The thing is, I hope ppl who feel like their childhood has been ruined can understand that their feelings as a child were valid and I’m sure the kids who acted in those roles wouldn’t want anyone to feel like shit cuz they enjoyed them in ignorance. You can still appreciate the good stuff that came out of it, know that you’re not a bad person for having enjoyed it at the time, and had it influence you. But you must acknowledge how horrific it was in reality and still want better for the victims. We can do both. It’s incredibly self absorbed to claim “childhood ruined” when nothing hurt you directly, and the victims are the true ppl who had their childhood ruined. Ppl think that if they enjoyed it they were just as bad as the abusers and then want to blame the victims and feel “superior” as a result. But you’re only as bad as the abusers if you victim blame.

[@ghoulishtoad]

Ppl who say thay didnt have real childhood trauma so its kinda funny to me like oh just hearing it ruined ur childhood? try having your parents beat the shit oit of each other then we'll talk about"childhood ruined"

[@liberpolo5540]

@@ghoulishtoad 100%!

[@MrTim-sh6ru]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention Corey Feldman…. Dude has been through a lot

[@LoganKeatts]

Makes me think of how River Phoenix was essentially murdered with a concoction of drugs KNOWN to be deadly

[@yourclairygodmother]

As a kid, I always wanted to be an actress, but I knew I wanted to wait until I was 18 to start professionally because of all the child star horror stories out there. My heart goes out to every kid who got hurt by these demonic corporations; chewed-up and spit out onto the streets as soon as they're sucked dry of all their luster. Shirley, Bobby, Orlando, Jeanette... every last kid. No child, no person, deserves the childhoods that they suffered through. Parents, be careful and attentive of your children: you never know what is happening behind the scenes.

[@ElijahParker55]

jeanette mcurdy is a prime example as well that poor girl

[@amberfox9543]

It’s sad what happens to child actors, especially how unphased some are when they die young.

[@xCUMMIESx]

PIG, dude you should make this into a video series and focus on one child star per video and it could be more in depth. I would love that, it would be super interesting.

[@PeninsulaPaintings]

I'm really happy about this overall shift in tone towards child stars going off the rails. It still comes with a sense of smugness and mockery from regular people with the sense of "can't feel sorry for rich kids!" mentality. But with SO many horror stories out there now, it's impossible to ignore the reality of child stardom and how awful it can be! The ones that turn out okay, are usually ones with decent/smart parents and/or ones who know the industry well (i.e. Sean Astin, Elijah Wood, Jason Bateman, Kurt Russell etc.). The ones with shitty folks, either crash and burn (i.e too many to fucking count!), or have to work extra hard to overcome the 'child/teen star curse' in adulthood (i.e. Drew Barrymore, Robert Downey Jr, Macualay Culkin etc.).

[@flying-magpie]

When I was young I wanted to be a child star and be famous. Now I'm an adult and I realize I'm the lucky one.

[@melaniefayemusic]

this is a good video. no one's ever explained it like that

[@berlyngrey9242]

Take the 2 Corey's for example (Feldman and Haim) they came forward about the abuse they suffered at the hands of Hollywood.

[@azadalamiq]

the two Cory's, Macaulay Culkin, neil patrick harris whom turned it into a comedy awareness, pretty much look up any 80s to 90s kid star and they came out at one point saying how gross the industry was. the child stars who made a career past child hood is such a short list. NPH barely had work past Dougie houser but came back strong with his "i was a child star and failed after" comedy that he got back into it strong with how i met your mother, and various web shows, same with will wheton. MJ was such obvious considering things. saun astin as well he got lucky.

[@berlyngrey9242]

@@azadalamiq I know, there's so many people who have been abused in the industry it's so sad. I can't imagine as a parent having my child in that line of work and not watching over them like a hawk to try and make sure something like that doesn't happen. While in many cases the parents do know and just want to keep the cash flow coming in. Pure greed and selfishness and the kids are the ones who suffer. I can guarantee there are more child actors who were abused and just never came forward or public with it

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

@@azadalamiq It's worth mentioning that Sean Astin's parents were successful actors in their own right (John Astin and Patty Duke Astin). They didn't need his acting income, or that of his brother, Mackenzie Astin, to keep their family afloat.

[@princesskristan]

I never knew the story about Bobby Driscoll. Peter Pan was one of the movies I watched alot as a kid, and it's so fucking sad

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

The complete story is even sadder than what was told in the video. Bobby wasn't merely buried in a stand-alone unmarked grave as shown. He was buried in a mass grave, from which it was impossible for his mother to retrieve his body. He remains to this day and will remain forever truly a lost boy.

[@princesskristan]

@@oliverbrownlow5615 Oh my god that's so awful!

[@ClownClakerz]

The ice block thing is so disturbing because in end it’s a type sexual abuse/genital mutilation

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

It's truly weird, but it reminds me of what evangelical "child preacher" Marjoe Gortner said about how he was able to "miraculously" memorize long sermons as a child: if he made a mistake, his mother held his head underwater in the bathtub. As a young adult, he made a movie about his experiences, called *Marjoe* (1972).

[@SlapstickGenius23]

@@oliverbrownlow5615 Marjoe Gortner is one of the stars of StarCrash too.

[@j.h.agonzales7936]

Also didn't Shirly Temple become an international diplomat in adulthood? Or something along those lines. Either way she was one of the few that managed to fight her way out of the hell that is Hollywood.

[@dougxvale]

And in the 21st century, Hilary Duff survived the curse

[@ninetailsclub]

2:10 Your cocktail shuffling over your shoulder into the shot lovely. Also, was like in beat with the tone of what you were saying like sidiling up next you. "Like yeah, look at this" Also, your cocktail has very lovely plumage. I miss my cocktail. Such beautiful creatures.

[@catisyellen9877]

I had a strong feeling Shirley Temple wasn’t treated very well, and I guess I was right. I’m glad child stars are coming out about this BS more often lately. People need to know this. I also wasn’t ever a big fan of Disney, and now I’m even less of a fan.

[@purplekittycreates]

I love this take. I wish there were more laws to protect kids against this especially for the internet! And laws against paparazzi’s Also your lil bit tweeting caught in the microphone is just adorable

[@thelanktheist2626]

Something that immediately comes to mind is Judith Barsy.

[@salazar556]

Jennette McCurdy and Britney Spears have really exposed the industry. Now that we have family channels, I won't be surprised if those kids come out and speak against their parents one day.

[@rockylujan449]

Bojack horseman highlights the hell outta this issue

[@kcirtapelyk6060]

Bobby Driscolls story angers me the most out of all of these. That poor man was treated like a work horse/fuck toy and was treated like trash by almost everyone he ever knew. Even by his own parents.

[@axtiexe]

Very good video. I am very glad to see more people talking about how the child stars experience so much trauma and abuse through the industry.

[@chloekm7958]

I'm suspect of any parents of child stars.

[@seraphineraevenwulf]

Talking about someone who passed without a lot of people knowing was Jonathan Brandis. He was pretty big in the 90s and I had his posters. It was six months later that I found out that he unalived himself because I was curious about something he had been in. It's sad that so much of this goes on in Hollywood.

[@kayleebatchelor6857]

I hate that people act like Child Actors can't make ANY mistakes in their adulthood. I mean out of everyone they're the SMALL handful of people who I would expect to make the most mistakes since they weren't allowed to spend their childhood making those mistakes. That's literally the WHOLE POINT of childhood. Learn, make mistakes, and navigate risks. It breaks my heart that they lose out on that....and then get shit on by everyone for doing drugs

[@dontprayforme]

When the hell did you get a birb? Lmao. My grandmother had two of those when I was growing up. They were awesome and lived for a long, long time it seemed like.

[@Tootz3374]

Watching this vid makes me wanna vomit and curl into my body about pretty much the R^*e of Child stars from Judy Garland to Shirley Temple, from acting to the music industry and even dancing with Dance moms. It’s really terrifying

[@JamesW609]

The most healthy child stars I can think of is Zach and Cody from sweet life and that was simply cause the dad was actually a dad

[@airotiv7916]

I can never keep up with all the things I want to watch, even my favorites, so I don't know if the bird is new, but I LOVE that the bird kept you company in this one! TOO CUTE! On a more serious note, I don't understand how this channel still isn't better known. I mean sometimes more can actually be detrimental especially with the Internet being what it is and people being crazy sometimes but you put so much work into every video! I just wanted to let you know I love that about your channel Bionic, and I love how you bring and articulate serious matters with good humor and also much understanding, it's very human the way you treat topics (if that phrasing makes sense). You'll always be one of my favorites to come back to time and time again and thanks for putting this information out there! I had no idea! MUCH LOVE MAN ♥️!

[@SpeedyakaLeah]

Judith Barsi is one of the most tragic.

[@itsmoonlitbro]

Man i love these documentary type videos.

[@reformedorthodoxmunmanquara]

I know this isn't the point of the video but I like the cockatiel walking around

[@freyajagger84]

I'd love a Part 2 this was so good!

[@emmanueldeita5362]

Hearing this is actually horrific, not a supernatural horror but just horrible these pour humans being treated as such and it makes it even worse when you realize Sara Lynn story line in bojack basically is a combination of all these stories

[@jarotheboar8398]

It's like working in these companies, you basically sell your soul to the devil, and gamble to have it back, some did, some didn't

[@TheAngieIshmael]

Really appreciate this video.

[@oliviaa_howell]

the whole time I've been watching this vid, I just can't stop looking at his bird! It's so cuteeee

[@Ratstronot118]

awesome vid as usual, keep up the good work

[@LabMatt]

Disney does not have a good past, a good present, and I doubt it will have a good future either

[@Xamry]

Having a childhood robbed is something I feel one can never recover from.

[@bigred6803]

If he ever makes a sort of sequel. He should talk about the kid who played Anakin (don’t remember his name, you know who I’m talking about) In Episode 1. That’s a super sad story about a Fans destroying a kids life.

[@socksfersold]

I feel like the only child stars who turned out alright were Dylan and Cole sprouse, considering their parents wanted them to have life experience like working at a restaurant and attending university and whatnot

[@jenniferschillig3768]

The Harry Potter kids seem to have done fine--maybe because in the U.K., the acting profession seems to focus more on the art of it than "being a star." And their parents seem to have had it together. Jodie Foster never went off the rails, because she made sure to focus on her education. Peter Ostrum and the Willy Wonka kids seem to have done okay, though Peter decided against any more acting roles and became a veterinarian. Mara Wilson of Matilda also had parents who looked out for her, and turned out fine. (She wrote an insightful article on child stardom and why so many child stars go off the rails for Cracked.) And Henry Thomas--Elliott in E.T.--has had a pretty respectable career. The stuff he's been in has had a pretty good pedigree--Ishmael in an adaptation of Moby Dick with Sir Patrick Stewart as Ahab, the HBO movie about the McMartin child molestation case, a young Norman Bates in Psycho IV, the recent Netflix series The Haunting of Hill House. (And the short but very affecting "sequel" to E.T., courtesy of Xfinity.)

[@socksfersold]

@@jenniferschillig3768 yeah, and some child actors who aren’t with disney and nick also turned out well (Joseph Gordon-Lewitt) Parenting really does play a big part. I watched a video somewhere. It said that these nick/disney producers also look for children whose parents aren’t fussy about leaving them with the adults (aka gullible parents)

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

@@jenniferschillig3768 In the UK, child actors may work no more than six months in a year. Period.

[@jenniferschillig3768]

@@oliverbrownlow5615 That's cool. Wish we'd adopt that practice here in the U.S.

[@warcrimesagainstthepope7307]

Thanks for the video. You did great on this.

[@dennismorgan1746]

I just finished you kid show ice berg and as soon as I finish it you post again, it’s my lucky day

[@ShortandSweet54]

Another prime case study is Judy Garland

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

One slight correction: *Song of the South* (1946) does not contain "jokes about slavery."

[@alvariuztheplug5728]

Remember Moloch? When parents offered their children to a pagan Deity and they burned them in fire....now you can make your own conclusions

[@psychedelicpayroll5412]

Hollywoods name even has occult origins. It’s the name of a tree used to make magic wands. And moloch is still a worshipped deity among the witches in Hollywood. But they sacrifice black market babies and bathe in the blood in order to have ageless skin.

[@psychedelicpayroll5412]

@@bloomygirl315 It’s a reference in the Bible where in Israel/Canaan they sacrificed their children to moloch in order to have economic advancement, crops grown and knowledge. Moloch looks like the Minotaur and they sacrifice the kids through the brazen bull and also beat loud drums in order to drown out the children screaming. People think he’s a fallen angel with close leadership to Satan which is why his worship as a god still goes on to this day.

[@belleofbrightside97]

@@bloomygirl315 that's real history

[@psychedelicpayroll5412]

@@bloomygirl315 He also goes by the name of Baal who is the son of the sea god Dagon and husband of the sea goddess Asherah. Asherah is the queen of the fallen angels marine kingdom which is a gradual tool Satan uses since it is the most powerful spiritual force on earth. Her children are the evil siren spirits and she even disguises herself as the Virgin Mary because she goes by the pagan title the queen of heaven. I was raised Catholic and they worship Mary like a goddess every May and the ceremony is a copy of worship to Flora and Artemis. I’ve seen the siren spirits multiple times in the spirit realm and they do indeed have a sinister beauty to them and always want spirit sex if they aren’t trying to murder you or feed on your soul. Moloch’s symbol isn’t only the Minotaur. It’s also a owl. And Yahweh did that as a test. We all know Issac wasn’t sacrificed. He always tests us and the book of job showed that him and Satan gamble on our souls in a spiritual court room. They bet on what decision the human would make. And they had to practice animal sacrifice once a year in order to have their sins forgiven before Jesus was born. Plus Yahweh had serious restrictions on how to do it compared to it being to a another god. Yahweh always said no humans but the fact that Abraham heard Gods voice directly is what made him not argue. He only argued with God when he wanted to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah saying there has to still be good people there. And so that’s when he sent angels to go and check and only Lot and his daughters were warned to leave since nobody else listened.

[@psychedelicpayroll5412]

@@bloomygirl315 Plus Christian’s are often clueless about the spirit realm which is what makes them a easy targets for anything. They always fell for the false light that they accuse others of falling for. Which is why I left the church for good and learned so much without it. Again like I said I was raised in the Catholic Church and they are clueless about anything spiritual. They don’t realize it’s a pagan religion since they not only worship Mary but also the saints. I have watched the rituals for years before leaving in my teens. The church services worship the sun gods and the Eucharist is symbolic cannibalism ritual.

[@Yvory]

Glad to see that you discovered the After Effects Rotobrushtool lol ;p love the video btw, very interesting, I like this new type of content you're venturing in

[@confectionary978]

I really like your outlook on this topic. You brought humour and you brought nuance to the discussion 👍

[@erinlefevers7302]

I'll always love your movie reviews, but I like this form of content from you as well.

[@brandon5568]

Thank you BionicPig for once again bringing up issues most people ignore. Love your videos.

[@valerierose817]

I love how your bird is in your videos. So cute !!!!

[@StroobyJ]

Just did a little research because i was curious. Had no idea Shirley Temple was the ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslovakia. That’s crazy.