The true Origins of Wing Chun Part 1

Sifu Sergio Iadarola Presents The true Origins of Wing Chun Part 1
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[@robertpage2341]

Thank God for Sifu Sergio..One of the FEW true Wing Chun historians and practitioners.! Clearing the air and creating clarity !!!

[@JKDVIPER]

Henrik Santo knows what’s up too .. Sifu will attest to that.. ㊙️

[@BayMountainWT]

Thank you Sifu Sergio -- appreciate all the hard work you do for expanding the knowledge of Wing Tsun.

Some people prefer to believe in legends than in facts. Thanks for sharing the truth, Sifú

[@johnconnor7249]

I cannot believe this video is already 8 years old. I remember when I first found Sifu Sergio on KZbin. I watched every video on this channel and it still blows my mind. I've been studying WingTsun for almost 6 years at this point and I have always wanted to train with you Sifu. If you ever come to Houston, Texas please let me know before you do and I would absolutely love to meet you and train with you. Maybe you could give me some info on how I could travel and meet you, possibly over the summer of 2023? Thanks again for all the knowledge.

[@SifuSergioChannel]

Hi John, you can send me a PM on Facebook or Instagram, you are very welcome to come to Madeira Portugal where I am based now after 16 years in Hong Kong to study under me. otherwise try with [e-mail]

[@alejandrolopez1812]

thanks sifu. your passion to question and search for the truth is inspiring. most of us are just follow and doctrine by own system.

[@G4mer_D4d]

if it was like my class....who had a great master by international reputation.... only 10% got anywhere.... too much self protective ma laze to pass on openly.

[@gingernessful]

This is gold! I'm already over excited for part 2! Keep em comin brother.

[@3brewster]

Wow real interesting stuff. Can't wait for part 2 I was one of Paul Hawkes top students many years ago and he was taught by James Sinclair Many thanks Sifu Sergio

[@nathanwatches]

Sifu Sergio, you will make a lot of people uncomfortable. But I am sure you see that coming. Your research is very in depth. Good work!

[@OldJong]

Everything has to come from something. What you say make sense a lot. Thank you Sergio.

[@JKDVIPER]

Absolutely amazing idea.. bold.. I trust you and your ideas and knowledge.. more than style in particular, I feel that the pioneers made it based more on the application of it, then it was broken down into a teachable martial arts style once they had all the bugs worked out, but by the time Bruce Lee came around it was still being developed in my opinion, Bruce wong sheung Leung and Gary Lam all made contributions.. Yipman was only one practitioner, yip fook choy does wing chun from a different lineage .. but ya, economic motion and forward pressing attacks and hard and soft energy, but look at the 4 basic techniques? Bong ? Fook? Fook obviously comes from crane.. bong I’ve seen in mantis .. PAK SAO I’ve seen in mantis although they use it as a hit not a deflection.. just ideas to comment on🐉👌

[@Ordinary-Hendrik]

Y15合實雙掌穿心貫。 Joining the two palms drive through the heart. Is the writing from 1850 siu Lin tau kuit describing the white crane move @ 9.15

[@shengchenfan]

The two masters that you mention really know their Wing Chun.

[@ertankalyoncuoglu6684]

respect brother, for putting truth above a constructed ego serving story

[@JKDVIPER]

Fantastic

[@VTKFJK]

Excellent video! I can't thank you enough for putting this video together to share these truths with people. I've been trying to tell people this information but they look at me like I'm crazy. With an accurate understanding of the past and origins of WC you can begin to understand what all of the components of a complete WC system should be. I can't wait for the next video!

[@SifuSergioChannel]

Thank you

[@palmer3977]

this is what we want real facts, fantastic video sifu

[@kofiartsschoolofwingchun4726]

Thanks for uploading

[@keungsingluk4228]

I recalled, in 2011 hk headlines newspaper wing chun master kong chi keung with weng chun white crane master lee kong ever touched this subject about the possible close root realtionship among weng chun, weng chun white crane and wing chun as per the similarities from part of thier hand styles, forms....instead of just by their naming and root stories alikeness....

[@raffaeleabbruzzese9522]

Complimenti per il lavoro che a fatto è che sta facendo. La ricerca della verità della tradizionalita , per non dimenticare.

[@JKDVIPER]

Now for the information sharing idea.. the RED BOAT OPERA is a very good source of history.. futian white crane exactly sifu..

[@duff0996]

itl be interesting to see how william chueng veiws are portrayed in this vid i alwaze liked his footwork but i like all syles of martial arts cant wait for part 2

[@JKDVIPER]

6:52 Even though I’ve seen this before, it’s such an exciting topic, I had to chime in once again.. From what I can gather.. depending on the element associated with the particular technique, they come from the following.. 1. WHITE CRANE 2. MANTIS 3. SNAKE 4. PAK-MEI (chum-kiu) bridge seeking and BUI-GEE “snake” BONG-SAO “mantis” PAK-SAO “mantis” FOOK-SAO “cranes wing” covering controlling hands. But, just about all punching comes from CHOY LEE FUT and other LONG FIST STYLES that use vertical punching instead of the SHAOLIN FIST. However, I should note, we kept the PING CHOY as well.. although not as heavy of use.

[@won93r]

very interesting seeing the similarities of the white crain technique and the siu nim tau form cant wait for part 2 :)

[@JKDVIPER]

I’m starting to think that wong showing Leung might have been the best ever.. Gary Lam is just the same or better..but for that time.. he was unbelievable!

[@pmickler6]

I thank you for ur videos in all this research of the history of wing chun kung. It's good to know different points of views on this subject.

[@keungsingluk4228]

Yes,, my research shows similar signs so, as what you excerpted in yr video with the video of master Lee kong,s demo of fujian white cran - twelve sections strength.... this is one of the good examples......

[@tazmokhan7614]

will you ever have these documents of WC lineage and history translated and posted for peer review. If so that would be great.

[@AmberSystem]

Great question.

[@meanstreak-1017]

Ich bin sehr beeindruckt von deiner Arbeit Sifu Sergio. Sehr interessant zum sehen woher Wing Chun kommt und wie es sich verändert hat. Leider wurden viele Techniken , Bewegungen , Formen vergessen oder auch nicht verstanden.

[@progmetalnerd982]

Great video Sifu! Can't wait to see more of this. You're doing such great work. Unlike much of the other so called Wing Chun masters, you actually know what you're talking about. I've seen a lot of "masters" ong the internet and even I, as a fifth level student at your school in Amsterdam, could prove them wrong. I would like to write so much more as I have really great respect for you, but I'll leave it to this :D.

[@SifuSergioChannel]

Thanks Sam appreciate your words,help by sharing the message and one day becoming an IWKA Wing Tjun instructeur

[@progmetalnerd982]

Becoming instructor is one of my goals, but that's not all. I plan on becoming a master, just so you know :). The Wing Chun Kung Fu Channel by Sifu Sergio

[@javiercardenas1577]

you are so right.... man why didn't even think about that....

[@swalefr]

Thank you Sifu

[@garytyme9384]

Please remember all you wing chun practitioners that you must learn each system (I use this very VERY loosely) to find the origin of the "WHY" in wing chun. It isn't about this at that, its about why we choose to fit in to humanity, and why we equip ourselves to survive in the world.

[@l3ungjan]

thanks Sifu.

[@saschamarr495]

Did you ever release that book? Would love to read it!

[@SifuSergioChannel]

Yes the book is out and can be ordered at schoolsofkungfu.at/produkt/the-history-of-wing-chun-the-six-core-elements/

[@saschamarr495]

@@SifuSergioChannel Thanks for the reply! I will place an order soon. Thanks for your videos and your fantastic explanations!

[@Dannyhorgan81]

Thank you for this.

[@SifuSergioChannel]

Your welcome Danny enjoy part 2 also next week

[@eezian10]

Very interesting! Can't wait for the next one. Come to Australia!

[@SifuSergioChannel]

If i get invited for a seminar i will come

[@eezian10]

Ok, hopefully one day you'll have the chance. Perhaps I'll come around to HK. Thank you.

[@bhabr]

Thank you, love it.

[@ajarnkenzie]

what happened to the comment I made here last week? It wasn't offensive or anything like that so I don't think it would have been deleted. It simply said that I know there are still high hands in China as I trained with some of the Cho family there last year and then asked if you'd met my sifu, ku choi wah. weird that it's gone missing.

[@daltondammthebabe]

Your comment is still here. Both of them

[@pho8utube]

Thank you for your contribution

[@dayroc08]

Thank you, good information as always. Because if your research videos it has sparked a fascination on non-Ipman systems. I am blessed that there is a high quality YKS group of guys here and have touched hand with them. They are good. I have touched hands with many IP man systems (commercial and non commercial WC) and for the most part was nothing special, but this is of course I originally come from a IPman system. There is some very interesting differences in my Quest for WC for what I have found. Lots of underground Chinese sifus who teach total opposite but have good logic. I am now on a research mission for qigong in WC in the first form. Thank you for your videos, you have affirmed a lot of research and my questioning about WC and it's history.

[@ajarnkenzie]

I'd agree, a lot of kung fu has been lost through China's turbulent past. However, there are still some high hands in China. I was there training with some Cho family masters last year. Sifu Sergio, I kow you like to travel and meet masters from various lineages. Have you ever met my Sifu, Master ku Choi Wah?

[@growfathercola7378]

I love how you have looked be on the comercial fast food version of the the art we all want to learn. Hope you keep it going, and cant wait to see your boom, and more on your site. Thanks Sifu, great stuff, so the photos, and the history of leung bik is all made up? On What proof may i find out more on this? Thanks, your new student, j

[@SifuSergioChannel]

i will release a viddeo on that somewhere in the future although the article by Robert Chu in WCI is a little start,leung bik story is a hoax just read ip man's original writtings on the history of wing chun where he says we must always think of the source of the water when drinking it and then mentiones all his elders and sihings under which he studied,but the most important person according to his 1972 interview with new martial hero magazine leung bik he does not mention. Strange is it not? The most important person under who he studied but who never comes up or is mentioned until 1972 not even in his essay on the history where he mentions everybody's name

[@growfathercola7378]

thanks sifu , you got a great way of seeing the true history of this fine art we all love, look forward to see more, and your up coming book aswell... your new student, J

[@kaiya2]

Present the evidence please.

[@hansleet]

Then present the evidence please. 9 out of 11 minutes of the video is you talking about how good your research and evidence is and the last 2 minutes is two pictures and a video. Should be the other way round. Looking forward for part 2. Also doesn't the white crane stuff looks bit like that black flag wc stuff with all the slapping movements ?

[@SifuSergioChannel]

Black flag wing chun is a made up lineage and based on several fukien systems so yes it looks in many respects similar as it shares common DNA

[@11Kralle]

I know, this may sound foolish, but: is (/will there be) a german version of your book? As a historian I can only imagine how difficult it must have been to gather the sourcer, find evidence or check different strains of oral tradition.

[@SifuSergioChannel]

+11Kralle It will become available in German language in 2016

[@11Kralle]

Sold - I am looking forward to it! Have a nice year to come!The Wing Chun Kung Fu Channel by Sifu Sergio

[@surreywingchun]

This I would like to say is common knowledge but as you state there are so many poor Wing Chun school's with little experience they believe and still have written on their websites the ridiculous story about the nun seeing 2 animals fighting. Our last uploaded highlights some of the links with other styles. Wing Chun practioners should open their eyes as they are missing out. One self proclaimed master who claims he is the only "master" in the UK teaching authentic Wing Tsun in Bromley won't even allow his students to explore other arts. Such a shame Wing Tsun practioners are so blind.

[@panospanagiotides1202]

Thanxs for sharing your knowledge i believe that there is more than two systems i also see baqua in the swords form and tai chi in all the forms especially the hip movement. In the second form but for some reason the true understanding of how to use it has been misinterpreted.

[@TheWarriorScholar]

Part 2?

[@arthurwatts1680]

One of the things I find interesting is that the closer any Okinawan karate style is to its Fujian / Foshan roots, the more obscure the early history of that style seems to be (where the master studied and for how long etc). Tell people you trained as a uchi-deshi in Japan in the 1970s and you had better have documented proof, including photos of yourself with acknowledged black belts from that era, but it would seem that you can put 'Fujian White Crane' on your CV with very little to back that up. When Chinese historians learn to document historical fact without embellishment or fear of reprisals - and I see nothing to believe that the CCP is any different to previous 'dynasties' - I'll be a lot more inclined to read the background to Wing Chun or any other style. Sadly, they aren't alone in this, as I'm sure you're aware, but I'm unaware of any Japanese martial artist who claims to have supernatural powers (Aikido and ki 'masters' notwithstanding). Even Muay Thai, arguably one of the first 'put up or shut up' martial arts in Southeast Asia, seems to have a mystical aspect for many Thais and the wai kru is just one aspect of that. Who am I to say that a Silat master cant bend the laws of physics (!) - chants and incantations have attracted Westerners for decades, but the mythology only serves to deepen the fog around many (often hotly disputed) 'facts' from an era where many things were passed down orally. In any case, you certainly wouldn't be the first Westerner to try to peer through that fog: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donn_F._Draeger Draeger's 'Asian Fighting Arts' remains a classic to this day, and its an enjoyable read, but I may as well have been reading 'The History of Life on Mars' for all the background I had when I first picked the book up. Even in Draeger's era, there were men willing to cash in on the West's ignorance of what real martial arts looked like - I guess some things remain eternal where there is a buck to be made. Thanks for the video.

[@ceejaysatoshi2919]

Situ where have you gone been 10 years

[@taylorbee4010]

It do feel like there's some Tai chi and mantis in there

[@byt290]

It can only be written one way. Why does everyone want to clarify . Repeat. Repeat. Click bate. Nothing new

[@NDoraku]

Great video! Only something overall (not specific for this video, just overall): To write the chinese names in 3 single names is a little bit outdated. Today in 2021 the western world has adopted to writhe cantonese and korea names with hyphen, and mandarin names together. From today´s standards, Wong Shun Leung should be written as: Wong Shun-leung or Shun-Leung in cantonese and Huang Chunliang in mandarin (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Shun-leung) Same with other names like Shan Wah-shun or Yim Wing-chun (mandarin Yan Yongchun) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yim_Wing-chun en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Wah-shun Not important but maybe interesting for some people.

[@dandelionvideosworldwide6220]

Aloha from Hawaii 😉 🤙

[@ruudhazeleger8488]

wing chun comes from the red boat opera please learn it is the martialart of the opera playing people by evidence

[@SifuSergioChannel]

Nope that period came afterwards Ruud watch part 2 too before you judge

[@ruudhazeleger8488]

Stick body short strike

[@Lescouflair]

You have omitted the fact that Yip Man also studied from none other than one of Dr. Leung Jan's sons.....Leung Bik! That's what GM YIp Chun says believe it or not.

[@SifuSergioChannel]

The Leung Bik story is a hoax,the real Leung Bik was Yuen kay San

[@garytyme9384]

Wing chun originated from the scientific principle of human mechanics. As we do not primarily fight with Monkey's, Tigers, Cranes, Dragons or Snakes, the impetus for wing chun came from this idea of fighting with humans and fitting the techniques to human movement and effortless action. In reality, the system was developed from what came before i.e. temple Kung Fu and is steeped in the principles, concepts and observations of the that came before. So, to find the origin of wing chun one must first understand why the techniques of wing chun were chosen (N.B. to fit with human movement) and why the progenitors of the wing chun system made it a peoples art of fighting rather than an established system.

[@SifuSergioChannel]

+Gary Tyme maybe you should watch part 2 of the video series too, and read Sifu Sergio's book on the history and origins of Wing Chun

[@garytyme9384]

I really do not need to. I really believe that as Sifu Sergio is working from his own interpretation of the history and has not remained a dragon amongst the trees, and as such, his motivations become clear. If one decides to move out from the trees then beware where you cast your shadow. As a practitioner of Taoism (Daoism) I do submit that; without the spiritual practice of Taoism a Sifu falls short of the Wing Chun philosophy. The Philosophy of Wing Chun Kung Fu Traditional Wing Chun philosophical creed: He who excels as a warrior does not appear formidable. One who excels in fighting is never aroused in anger. One who excels in defeating his enemy does not join issues. One who excels in employing others humbles himself before them. This is the virtue of non-contention and matching the sublimity of heaven. I have had a really good instructor that has a non-subjective view of Wing Chun and has studied every system of Wing Chun; hence, until you have learnt each system, and how this has evolved with each new practitioner, you'll never have the truth about its origin. Video's and books are the unfortunate outcome of arrogance and material worth; not a very Taoist or Wing Chun philosophical approach to promoting what Sifu Sergio believes to be the truth (as he sees it).

[@SifuSergioChannel]

+Gary Tyme unfortunately you really do should see video 2, as well as read his book as its very clearly outlined and backed up with proof Gary, we wish you a happy 2016!

[@garytyme9384]

I think your missing my point. Can't everyone just be happy that Wing Chun exists in the world and not get so involved in who knows what about what?! It is a pointless exercise in pride and competition. And as we all know: humans will thrive through collaboration and die through competition. I'm not a believer of any one story of the origins of Wing Chun, more the origin of the techniques, the philosophies, concepts etc. Who cares who developed Wing Chun, I only care that it has supported the betterment of those that continue to practice Wing Chun in its entirety. And, I've got to say that; I have discovered more about Wing Chun through practising it (from the Daoist perspective; which, is part of the origin) than I ever have from researching it. So, likewise, in regards to a prosperous and materialistic new year. I hope the best of your past, is the worst of your future. Peace be with you.

[@12Thewower]

+Gary Tyme but dude as a fellow wing chun practisioner i would love to know how acutally created The style :) only then we can trase back how The style was created and well The story is just as import as The history of its tecenics they are bound toghter :D

[@damannoneone2363]

yes serrggio yes now tel a me how llong a hav u felt a dat way serrggio plees tel us hmmmmm.

[@MasterofPlay7]

i thought karate is based on white crane.....

[@zenogate6104]

MasterofPlay7 both of them was based on white crane

[@robertopavez3222]

there are a lot of karate, which one?

[@spartanwarrior1]

Fujian white crane is the progenitor of Okinawa Te. A lot of Okinawans learned chinese martial arts on mainland china.

[@jooniebird]

@@spartanwarrior1 from my instructor and his instructors. Plus some research among many Okinawan practioners. Only Goju is heavily influence by Chinese White Crane. Shuri and Tomari Te styles are more a collection of Okinawan wrestling, Thai and FMA

[@giuliancity2507]

Ng Mui learned it from a one armed nun (dong bei sun lee) short strike boxing it was called.

[@Gieszkanne]

In Hong Kong was no cultural revolution it was british, so there is no excuse for them.

[@G4mer_D4d]

BTW. I live on west coast of usa in a college town... I talked to a Chinese student of a Tai Chi master (he said he could not say his name).... He said the communist party never outlawed kung fu and the boxer rebellion never happened.... mmmm'kay. whierd. we have vastly varying information my friends. lets talk.

[@keungsingluk4228]

I wonder why my 2nd comment posted on 3 March, has be3n removed? It is a fair and true facts as i excerpted from the hk headlines newspaper dated june 2011... as such, i wont add any comments and info for yr channel anymore. Beside,s, you said, it was no leug bik but was Yuen Kay shan in grandmaster yip man's wingchun history, this is only yr personal assumption but not yet into any solid proof or written facts and documents for he history rewrite, or, you tryig to prove grandmaster yip man was a liar on 5his?? Pls do delete all my uploaded coments....

[@SifuSergioChannel]

First of all i did not delete anything second of all yes the late GM Ip Man lied about Leung Bik as he could not reveal that he learned by Yuen Kay San i also have the proof for that and will release it in a future video

[@SifuSergioChannel]

BTW just saw your original comment is still there please look good before you accuse somebody of deleting your post

[@mrfriedchen888]

netter Mann, netter Haarschnitt :)

[@yang5159]

Sergio...wingchun origins from shaolin Yim wing chun added more so does yip man. Most chinese kungfu origin from shaolin. The most powerful is still real taichi / gigong. Dont think other arts can defeat taichi in street fight.

[@CYChee-li9ps]

in order to know the true story of Cho Ga Wing Chun history, Sifu Segio this time you founded the wrong person! You have totally no idea with what about us.

[@spartanwarrior1]

Ç.Y. Chee tell us your story then, douche.

[@G4mer_D4d]

i for one would love to hear it.... we hear so many stories, but the truth will show itself if it is open to be seen.... real truth is, from what ive perceived....free and freeing. thank you for your offer.

[@austingohofficial]

Wing Chun is origin from the Shaolin Temple

[@SifuSergioChannel]

Austin Goh Martial Arts Training & Philosophy As you can see in the video that's the Wing Chun legend but not the truth, Read my book "The Six Core Elements the SLT and History of Wing Chun"

[@austingohofficial]

If you send me your book, I will do a review for you.

[@ruudhazeleger8488]

no wing chun comes from the red boat by evidence

[@nyclee9133]

@@ruudhazeleger8488 red boat got there stuff from southern shaolin

[@ruudhazeleger8488]

@@nyclee9133 not all of it