The TRUE VILLAIN in Black Myth: Wukong… 🙉🐲(You didn’t See it Coming!)

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Kale the Relentless

Kale the Relentless

Күн бұрын

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@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
P.S. I’ve already added a **MAJOR SPOILER WARNING** in the vid but again **MAJOR SPOILERS WARNING** don’t watch the vid if you don’t want to get spoiled on the later parts alright? Alright.
@Dumanddd
@Dumanddd 3 ай бұрын
Saying major spoilers after telling me who was the true villain won't do shit
@dylanpyle6500
@dylanpyle6500 3 ай бұрын
It's not the celestial court
@bandzuchiha5452
@bandzuchiha5452 3 ай бұрын
@@Dumanddd 😂
@Larry6393
@Larry6393 3 ай бұрын
​@@Dumandddgame basicly is a movie
@2matauenga
@2matauenga 2 ай бұрын
You literally tell people what happens at the end before the spoiler warning.
@Bleedthefreak
@Bleedthefreak 3 ай бұрын
Erlang was mvp for helping our boy wukong, and also let us have his dope spear
@razmenn3596
@razmenn3596 3 ай бұрын
Helping how?
@razmenn3596
@razmenn3596 3 ай бұрын
Helping how?
@Bleedthefreak
@Bleedthefreak 3 ай бұрын
@@razmenn3596 Erlang? The only way to give sun wukong his freedom was by having that circlet taken off because that’s how he was being controlled, and that couldn’t happen without him dying except he’s immortal so another means was in order…hence the rock thingy. Erlang literally was the secret good guy that gave wukong the chance at freedom by spearing him into that mountain so that the destined one could be given the circlet and that cycle would be broken by getting the true ending, I may be wrong about some things I am by no means an expert lore guy or know much about Chinese mythology but that’s what I got out of the game
@Bleedthefreak
@Bleedthefreak 3 ай бұрын
@@razmenn3596 also he gave us his dope spear! That alone is enough
@razmenn3596
@razmenn3596 3 ай бұрын
@@Bleedthefreak ohhh i get it now. The way he does it is definitely harsh but he’s got good intention 😭🫶🏻thank you btw
@tuminhtri2484
@tuminhtri2484 4 ай бұрын
If the Fate monkey is the mind then the old monkey might be the discipline of Wukong.
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
Interesting theory🤔 so thats why he wasnt fusing in with the destined one, since wukong wanted true freedom!
@itsSmiv
@itsSmiv 4 ай бұрын
Didn't Erlang own the mind?
@demoth
@demoth 4 ай бұрын
​@@KaletheRelentless he doesn't have wukong mind. To get it u have to beat erlang and it unlikely someone who isn't truly destine can beat the strongest of heaven. That the point of being seal away, anyone who doesn't have the mind cannot be wukong and can't leave the stone even if u beat wukong himself
@gttb-zq4it
@gttb-zq4it 4 ай бұрын
Bars 🔥
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
@@demoth I was talking about the old monkey being the “discipline” to what the original comment was saying.
@KDuff-2015
@KDuff-2015 4 ай бұрын
Elder Monkey is The GHOST or Spiritual Manifestation of OG Wukong it tells you that when it shows Elder Monkey inside the Rock/Amber he is the aged OG Wukong & explains why he never leaves Wukongs mountain. The bad ending he gives the destined one the headband as a symbol as you didn’t do the true quest for freedom which was what Wukong wanted The good ending shows that you obtained freedom & the memories are returned for Wukong to finish the journey & take out the Heavenly kings
@redblade5556
@redblade5556 4 ай бұрын
Aged og wukong. So... Wukong's mind technically split into 2 or 3 or maybe even 4 pieces (his memories with Erlang Shen's third eye, his speaking mind with the old monkey, and half his instinct to the destined one and the other half with his broken shell)?
@zomberkay
@zomberkay 4 ай бұрын
​@@redblade5556 probably
@ceezer21
@ceezer21 4 ай бұрын
So the true ending is in chapter 3 when you go find erlang in the mountain and then the heavenly daddies
@toldyouitsnobody
@toldyouitsnobody 4 ай бұрын
No , I think it is the master tang sanzang who was in that form because of you see in the novel it is said only he and one another person can place the golden circklet on somebody. And you saw an incarnation of him as a monk in the turtle animation story. So it is not entirely impossible
@Monado6
@Monado6 4 ай бұрын
50 shades of wukong
@jiaweichong600
@jiaweichong600 4 ай бұрын
The identity of the old monkey has been discussed among chinese. The most convincing part so far is that he's actually Tang San Zang, the master of Wu Kong during the journey to the west. The proof is the way he called Ba Jie and all the knowledge he has on Wu Kong even to the details. And the way he narrated chapter 3 sounds a bit emotional since he's the monk in the ending cutscene sitting beside the turtle.
@egreat1036
@egreat1036 3 ай бұрын
@@jiaweichong600 the monk in the ending cutscene sitting next to the turtle is Jinchanzi, not Tang San Zang
@杨洋-g9r
@杨洋-g9r 3 ай бұрын
@@egreat1036 sameone
@mochuchu123
@mochuchu123 3 ай бұрын
Jincanzi was reincarnated to Tang San Zang in og JTTW
@minhkhoa4783
@minhkhoa4783 3 ай бұрын
90% that’s Guanyin, the buddha that takes many forms to guide people on their path to find dharma.
@SictoryTheVurrender
@SictoryTheVurrender 3 ай бұрын
Some says hes guanyin
@strides1000
@strides1000 4 ай бұрын
It’s a twist from the original story but I love how they went with the direction that sun wukong rather be dead than be enslaved forever. Wukong and erlang were actually not enemies at the end. This was beautifully done.
@qminh695_
@qminh695_ 4 ай бұрын
Well as an asian dude that stick to the og series journey to the west 1986 and even read the novel and the black myth as well, i might have thought that the one that behind all the events in the game is someone who is on the celestial court cause i read nearly the whole lores of the monster in the game and found out some easter eggs and some details said that. My eng was not good enough so i can not have the full explaination but afterall i am for sure the elderly monkey is not the true villian (my sense told me so)
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
I understand your point man no worries :) well he may or may not be the true villain, but he does seem to have ill intentions especially with putting on the golden headband on the mc
@qminh695_
@qminh695_ 4 ай бұрын
Like there are a lot of abstraction in the dialouge when the three are on the boat and someone that have the knowledge of buddism will have the further understand to the says of that old monkey. Hmm i dont really know how to say more…but ye if u know u know. But ur theory was interesting tho ngl
@qminh695_
@qminh695_ 4 ай бұрын
@@KaletheRelentless well okay:) i damn can not believe how much the western care so much about this game like us. Have a great day bro!
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
@@qminh695_ Have a great day to you too :) And yes ofc Sun Wukong is such a great character, personally I really like his stories and just his lore in this game and also from the novels.
@THATmfker2404
@THATmfker2404 4 ай бұрын
@@qminh695_ or maybe you’re both right, and the whole point of the story of wu kong, is the universe is against you
@ArcueidBrunestuddo
@ArcueidBrunestuddo 4 ай бұрын
The true villain is Buddha for not removing the headband from Sun Wukong after he finished his Journey to the West, and so he had to do some elaborate scheme of killing himself so he can reincarnate without the headband as The Destined One. The bad ending has The Destined One once again putting the headband on dooming himself to a life of servitude, and the good ending he's free.
@safiralhaq8462
@safiralhaq8462 3 ай бұрын
@@ArcueidBrunestuddo Think about this. If wukong doesnt have those headband what chaos he would do to heavens and earth? Buddha knows better. The nature of wukong was freedomness he need something to correct his ownself nature. Looks what he does on garden of immortal peach, his greeds causing him ate all of those peaches.
@ArcueidBrunestuddo
@ArcueidBrunestuddo 3 ай бұрын
@@safiralhaq8462 The whole game started because Buddha was killing Wukong's kind when he just wanted to live in the mountains in peace.
@ucmanhvuong4301
@ucmanhvuong4301 3 ай бұрын
@@ArcueidBrunestuddo correction, it was the Jade Palace doing that mass genocide BS, not Buddha. But it was still a dick move from Buddha to not remove it completely when Wukong finished his journey and aligned himself completly with Buddhaism. What's worse is that there was active sabotage bcs the headband cannot just activate on its own, there needs to be an enchantment. So either Buddha gave away the details of that enchantment to the Jade Palace, or Buddha was on the same page with Jade Palace and wanted to remove Wukong, thus doing the enchantment himself. Either way it looks bad on him.
@time847
@time847 3 ай бұрын
Buddha removed the headband in orginal story when sun wukong requested it.
@Spider-fan2038-js1iq
@Spider-fan2038-js1iq 3 ай бұрын
I doubt it, Buddha for the most part of the game was absent through the entire game, I think most likely while still in Buddhahood Wukong devised a plant to get rid of the headband with Erlang while secretly being aided by Buddha to get the celestial court into a false sense of security and eventually have wukong return while they’re at their most vulnerable and without the headband he’d defeat the eastern and western gods. Although this is just speculation since I’m not a Buddhist or really into the black myth lore so it’s probably not a correct speculation.
@wubin3783
@wubin3783 3 ай бұрын
As a Chinese, I feel sorry that this game is too complicated for guys with little knowledge about Journey to the West. The Elder monkey is actually Wukong's Master, Named Jing Changzi or other name Tang Seng. He just follows the player's choice, not really on the side of Heaven. If the player choose not to get Wukong's Meme, then he will wait till one come and did that. He believe eventually this will happen.
@Handle_not_found-t1i
@Handle_not_found-t1i 2 ай бұрын
@@wubin3783 ikr
@fab4miner
@fab4miner 2 ай бұрын
I thought jinchanzi is monk tang sanzang? He’s not a monkey but a buddha’s disciple
@ys987yy8
@ys987yy8 2 ай бұрын
@@wubin3783 you are confidently wrong 🤣
@ani_lytical8250
@ani_lytical8250 Ай бұрын
That's wrong. You guys really need to read the journal entries of every character. In the old guy's journal, it is mentioned the he could be subudhi, tang monk or guanyin. Which is an indication that he is not either of them.
@Marnige
@Marnige 29 күн бұрын
This is one of the theory, it's not fact. So it's neither right nor wrong.
@dfafdasdfasdsfadsf
@dfafdasdfasdsfadsf 3 ай бұрын
Loving the story’s connection to Chinese mythology and Journey to the West! Immersive Translate helped me appreciate these aspects more.
@jcnom6606
@jcnom6606 3 ай бұрын
you could argue Wukong himself is the villain
@genesismultiverse4896
@genesismultiverse4896 3 ай бұрын
So that's why it was considered a bad ending wow i didn't expect that
@Q..M
@Q..M 4 ай бұрын
The elder monkey is WuKong’s Discipline/Wise entity… the dev’s literally told us that.. 😅
@redblade5556
@redblade5556 4 ай бұрын
So...his Victorious Fighting Buddha (enlightenment title) self?
@dj0033
@dj0033 4 ай бұрын
@@Q..M no they didn t if you check the journal entry about him it says some think he is Guanyin other think he is Bodhi or Sun Wukong and some think he is just a nameless old monkey
@Q..M
@Q..M 4 ай бұрын
@@dj0033 the dev’s already confirmed it at an interview about the game 🤷🏻‍♂️
@that1guy712
@that1guy712 4 ай бұрын
@@redblade5556 I don't think so. I mean he doesn't seem like a Buddha yk? Especially the victorious fighting buddha
@ulfberht4431
@ulfberht4431 3 ай бұрын
When did they tell us and where? Just saying “lol they LITERALLY told us this” doesn’t make the boogeyman go away. You need to actually show us proof.
@KamarianJones-wc8fb
@KamarianJones-wc8fb 4 ай бұрын
The elder monkey does look like aged wukong
@TheBullethead1988
@TheBullethead1988 4 ай бұрын
The true enemy is destiny itself. Everybody has a pre-ordained role in this universe and they are all slaves to it.
@kallurathore4733
@kallurathore4733 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBullethead1988 🥲🥲
@Stav6
@Stav6 4 ай бұрын
Always thought it was weird how the elder monkey looks like wukong think there might be something there
@Calliofreespirit
@Calliofreespirit 3 ай бұрын
The Elder Monkey has a floating shawl which only means he is a divine entity/bodhisattva and the only monkey who ever got to become a bodhisattva was Sun Wukong dubbed the Victorious Fighting Buddha. Me thinks the old monkey is Wukong's enlightened self that was left free of his control when he released five of his roots except his mind upon his death. That enlightened self for obvious reasons is not aligned with him (because he doesnt want to be bound by the rules of heaven which comes along being an enlightened), and more likely is an agent of the Buddha if not the celestial court. This old monkey puts the tightening headband on the Destined One so as to control Wukong again and continue his penance inside the stone. In the good ending, he also tries to put the headband but before he could successfully do so, the Destined One remembers the OG story/memories that Erlang kept. In the journal it was said that even Erlang took a relic of Wukong, in truth what he took was Wukong's memories (for safekeeping). The 6th relic, the mind that is our Destined One is actually an empty mind, devoid of memories and we are supposed to get the memories from Erlang to get the good ending.
@Infin8-art
@Infin8-art 4 ай бұрын
Yup, they wanted another like wukong so they used a disciple since disciples are usually to act like their father(the person they follow). But they didn’t want a disciple to be free but be bounded to the heavenly court, this is what they tried to do with wukong which is how he lost the fight, I don’t think he died tho, I feel like he’s trapped somewhere. But what if the elder monkey knew wukong is alive and realized he needs someone else to take on the role of wukong to take the crown so the original can be free?
@jaydbankz0266
@jaydbankz0266 4 ай бұрын
The destined one is literally wukong,he just reincarnated himself a new body with no restrictions and boundaries so he can have complete freedom.
@tyxander3595
@tyxander3595 4 ай бұрын
Not even reincarnation the dude died but his essence remains , his power remains the destined one can bear his own name while he uses the essence and power of the one before him sun wukong , go thru his trials and tribulations understand why he even hated the court to begin with and what you will do now with it there ain’t no good ending nor bad ending it’s what you as the player has chosen to do accept celestial rule and or become ur own and do what you wish
@bruceolga3644
@bruceolga3644 4 ай бұрын
Ewe cliché clone huemans should be aware more 👁️
@ThatdudeJus
@ThatdudeJus 3 ай бұрын
@@tyxander3595 no he’s literally the reincarnation of wukong. If he was just essence and power, you wouldn’t go through so much to get his memories back.
@kevinlopez555
@kevinlopez555 7 күн бұрын
Duuuuude thanks for the explanaition. It escaped me
@chrispoici666
@chrispoici666 4 ай бұрын
Bros says "major spoilers" once je already spoiled tge main villain ☠️
@itzniku
@itzniku 3 ай бұрын
W for putting no spoilers in the vid
@LloydRodgers-z9l
@LloydRodgers-z9l 4 ай бұрын
He literally keeps you trapped he puts the headband on you.
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly, which is why its implied that he might have ill intentions :)
@Butitsprobablyaminooor
@Butitsprobablyaminooor 4 ай бұрын
@@KaletheRelentlessThe old monkey doesn’t seem to be the villain of the story, more of the observer and the teacher throughout the journey, the reason why the old monkey decided to put that headband was because it was either fate to begin with if the destined one was truly sun wukong, the whole point of that journey was to complete quest and explore missions which the point of freedom which sun wukong never had that led to the “Good ending”.the “bad ending” focuses on capturing the six relics or entirely focus on the goal than the freedom of what you get, thus this “focus” is a way of him being disciplined and not entirely free which fails the whole point of sun wukong’s rebirth, sun wukong wanted to be free without the headband controlling him, and by the bad ending, it only determines that the destined one was merely a disciple following the old monkey’s orders at the beginning of the story.
@shashankshambharkar918
@shashankshambharkar918 2 ай бұрын
He is just a guide..he keeps u trapped so that other destined one can start the journey..coz the previous one choose a wrong path
@LloydRodgers-z9l
@LloydRodgers-z9l 2 ай бұрын
@shashankshambharkar918 yeah hes a fraud he will be apart of the Jade Emperor he knows what the headband does and still wants you to put it on I've completed Wukong 6x now.
@fatguywhobreathesfire6488
@fatguywhobreathesfire6488 3 ай бұрын
If anyone’s looking for a “smoking gun”, it’s the fact that he has that floating ribbon at the end of the game
@MasterHandEdits5464
@MasterHandEdits5464 Күн бұрын
This almost feels too straightforward to believe, but it makes sense given that the old monkey tells you Wukong is dead despite the secret ending where you actually bring him back
@HM4Hill
@HM4Hill 2 ай бұрын
Imagine being so rebellious that even though the Buddha himself restrains you, heaven still cant control you so they try to recreate you just to get a calmer version
@AlexDelaCruz-j2f
@AlexDelaCruz-j2f 4 ай бұрын
i dint not watch the video. i still need to finish the game. all i want to say was i respect you for saying spoiler before spoiling the story. many don't do that.
@Congater
@Congater 4 ай бұрын
@@AlexDelaCruz-j2f wow thats some good patience to finish the game then watch the spoilers, same as me when i not yet played or finished i will save all videos to watch later list.
@efthimis.v6667
@efthimis.v6667 4 ай бұрын
The elder monkey is juling shen aka the big dude of the starting scene due to the floating scarf that looks the same
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
Possibly! in the official description for the elder monkey in the game, it said he might even be Guang yin (the one who created the headband).
@musafirghayrmaeruf1
@musafirghayrmaeruf1 4 ай бұрын
@@efthimis.v6667 But that big dude has the same voice actor as Erlang.
@itsSmiv
@itsSmiv 4 ай бұрын
The floating scarf is everywhere in chinese mythology, not just on juling shen. There is zero chance the elder monkey is juling; juling was basically a joke character that wukong absolutely fodderized in the beginning of the jttw.
@therminust4
@therminust4 4 ай бұрын
No, its heaven scarf most Chinese heaven gods have it, even one of mc armor The big possibility is Bodhisattva GuanYin, Seal circlet are GuanYin tool, total 3 used on Wukong, Blackbear, Redboy GuanYin disguise as Elder to test Destinied one to free or keep headcirclet seal
@jeffchee4714
@jeffchee4714 4 ай бұрын
No lol, the floating scarf is everywhere in Chinese and Japanese depicted of Gods and Immortals.
@jeremytheonlyone
@jeremytheonlyone 3 ай бұрын
If the headband is worn. It would be a recycle again. Only the true path to freedom is the target ending.
@NomoyaFukuin
@NomoyaFukuin Ай бұрын
If you think about it, him talking about Wukong's rebelliousness at the end of the game before we fight The Stone Monkey was feels like he's trying to siege the meaning "freedom" as a bad thing. He constantly referring Wukong as a bad influence and was the reason why all the monkey dead. He's also tried to manipulates The Destined One like "you are wukong, yet you don't need to be like him."
@geckoop2848
@geckoop2848 3 ай бұрын
As an Asian (Indian) I never thought of him being a villain at once, instead a teacher or a guide kinda person on the very first look. I haven’t played the game yet and I really want to, but the first time I saw him and I knew it.
@StephenYoung1379
@StephenYoung1379 3 ай бұрын
Is it true that Indian actually believe Sun Wukong (despite so much differentiates from story, character, personality...) Originated in India and a copy of Indian Monkey god Hanuman ? 😂
@BaraaOfRivia
@BaraaOfRivia 4 ай бұрын
All true but he wasn’t working for the celestial court (eastern gods), he was working for the buddha (western gods) as the head band was the buddhisatvas’ way of controlling wukong. The celestial court just wants him dead or locked away for good, and the elder monkey kinda works for the buddha (the western gods) as hinted in his journal “some say he is bodhisatva …..” and also by the thing on his back (devil fruit awakening ahh thingy)
@bruceolga3644
@bruceolga3644 4 ай бұрын
Ewe cliché clone huemans should be aware more 👁️
@yingkouzen
@yingkouzen 3 ай бұрын
And also the floating ribbons 🎀 similar to the headless Buddha
@BaraaOfRivia
@BaraaOfRivia 3 ай бұрын
@@yingkouzen yeh it looks like df awakening from one piece.
@salty7182
@salty7182 3 ай бұрын
the thing on his back is some kind of buddhism version of angel's halo.
@crocli1779
@crocli1779 3 ай бұрын
until today, the elder monkey's identity is still the biggest puzzle of the game, players esp chinese players just dig deeper and deeper and developed a few theories, according to the most updated theory believe he's Jinchanzi, who made appearance in Chapter 3 anime along with Yellowbrow
@HollowCH
@HollowCH 4 ай бұрын
i hope they give us more details about the ending, since in the lore some information contradict anything about wukong being reborn, some npc tell us that wukong has been reincarnate again and again, but the old monkey say its different monkey who will take wukongs name like we dont even know what erlang give us is the last relic or its jusr memories, old monkey doesnt know too, because erlang give us memories who doesn't take any psycal form like other relic, so i doubt so much about its being the last relic.
@gs_korito
@gs_korito 3 ай бұрын
Yeh, and in last they didnt even show the last relic to appear in the relic slot like others
@HollowCH
@HollowCH 3 ай бұрын
@@gs_korito real
@juneirarnab2006
@juneirarnab2006 3 ай бұрын
​@@gs_koritoit does in new game plus
@gs_korito
@gs_korito 3 ай бұрын
@@juneirarnab2006 really, i didnt know that my bad
@ThOnlyHamForYou
@ThOnlyHamForYou 3 ай бұрын
I was like "why tf are you putting it on again!?" So he was a villain after all
@druidspoe6885
@druidspoe6885 2 ай бұрын
I’ve done the secret ending he still puts it on you but then you pray as you’ve reached enlightenment which means he can remove the headband freely
@cwchek1979
@cwchek1979 4 ай бұрын
Chinese content creators has suggested that the elderly monkey is Wukong's master in the journey to the west.
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
Interesting…. So did they say if he was working for forces of heaven/celestial court or was he still in on wukongs side?
@cwchek1979
@cwchek1979 4 ай бұрын
The "master" was allowing Wukong to choose his destiny, taking neither celestial or Buddha side. The details were in the write up (in chinese) of the elder monkey where it mentions the celestial side sees the elderly monkey is "gambling" while the Buddha side said "to gamble is to lose". Which the elderly monkey responded "I neither gambled nor did I lost" Coincidentally, in the animation ending of chapter 3, Yellow Brow boosted his win regarding the wager with previous incarnation of Tang Monk about human greed; which wukong master replied "why are you so adamant on winning and losing?"
@cwchek1979
@cwchek1979 4 ай бұрын
@@KaletheRelentless Also side note, in the literature; though the band is from goddess of mercy, Tang Monk, Wukong's master is the one who place the band onto Wukong's head. Reference to the ending where the Elder Monkey place the band onto the destined one.
@minhkhoa4783
@minhkhoa4783 3 ай бұрын
@@cwchek1979 the headband was given by Guanyin, his master just tricked to wear the hat. I think the Elder Monkey is no other than Guanyin.
@donaldduckytrump
@donaldduckytrump Ай бұрын
so does it mean both the endings are bad endings? Cuz Wukong wanted freedom and now the destined one is also binded under the orders of the celestial court. Or the true ending says that now the destined one will try to achieve freedom??
@jakehull465
@jakehull465 Ай бұрын
So basically that fight with the monkey king is a waste of time
@Bubbaplay2much
@Bubbaplay2much 3 ай бұрын
Just got the bad ending on my first play through. Knowing now why he put that headband on him I MUST START MY NG+ to AVENGE WUKONG!
@SparkyMan12
@SparkyMan12 2 ай бұрын
You don't need to do ng +. You can fight erlang even if you got the bad ending in the same cycle
@XDarksoulX1129
@XDarksoulX1129 3 ай бұрын
Idk what ending I got but it wasn't that. But it's kinda funny that the first set of equipment he gives you. The pilgrim set. Has the golden headband in it
@partyrock4144
@partyrock4144 2 ай бұрын
That would explain his scarf halo thing. That’s typically reserved for powerful beings
@mirkmolon
@mirkmolon 3 ай бұрын
If Me Wukong: Retrieving all artifacts and resurrect the legend, I myself will create a new Light this generation all my kinds will set free and I will lead my people a place where called Peace.
@noxineamv2158
@noxineamv2158 3 ай бұрын
So in the good ending we say "Nuh uh" and finally break free?
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 3 ай бұрын
Ty for stopping by! Its open-ended if he did, but yea very likely as setting up for the dlc
@O_azarado
@O_azarado 2 ай бұрын
@@noxineamv2158 Yes in the true ending we break free
@zeronime284
@zeronime284 3 ай бұрын
He doesn't know. He thought its part of Wukong's identity.
@Geffi01
@Geffi01 4 ай бұрын
Disagree, the Jade emperor is the villain, playing all partys against each other. The gods even send the monk the nightmare so he killed the fox. Wukong didn't do anything wrong, even Erlang turned out to be a friend in a weird way.
@longdang1119
@longdang1119 4 ай бұрын
He is just an older clone who hasn't got the chance to meet Erleng
@smartifire
@smartifire 4 ай бұрын
Game developers were dam Evil, even the best looking ending is bad ending 😬🙄
@VersionBest
@VersionBest 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this details. I've beaten the game with both the bad and good ending and didn't realize the elder monkey was the bad guy all along. It never registered in my mind that putting the golden headband on the head signify controlling the destine one but now I can see that. It makes perfect sense.
@rancidiot
@rancidiot 3 ай бұрын
That's because he's not
@johnwaarwick3395
@johnwaarwick3395 4 ай бұрын
I assumed always the elder monkey was a living wukong passing down his will to be free
@BrianNderitu-lc2mp
@BrianNderitu-lc2mp 3 ай бұрын
A sign of black myth wukong 2
@Bung.sam13
@Bung.sam13 3 ай бұрын
Kalo tebakan gue kera tua adalah "kera batu" satu lagi yaitu KERA TUNG FEI seperti yg ada di film journey to the west, dia berpihak ke langit supaya destined one kalah sama langit terus dia mewarisi kekuatan Wukong dan mendapat posisi di langit
@gaelluevano9955
@gaelluevano9955 3 күн бұрын
I don’t think of him as a bad guy, I’m sure he knows what wukong truly wanted and if the destined one isn’t ready and complete to become/surpass wukong then he will cause another cycle till the destined one gets it right.
@blubeard7324
@blubeard7324 Ай бұрын
What if old monkey is Buddha wukong? What if wukongs spirit was split into 3 parts? (Elder monke, great sage broken shell, destiend one)
@kitkharpran1608
@kitkharpran1608 4 ай бұрын
But isn't the elder mokey like a manifestation of wukong's will?
@RealurdAvok
@RealurdAvok 4 ай бұрын
But he later got controll over the headband 😂
@joejo7698
@joejo7698 15 күн бұрын
Wukong sounds so much like Hanuman ❤
@zegarth_corpse
@zegarth_corpse 3 ай бұрын
Repeating that cycle is necessary in my opinion if I was the Celestial Realm. Wukong when he crashed the Celestial Palace didn’t have the headband, and you know the results. He embarrassed the entire Celestial realm and managed to reach to Buddha himself to challenge him, which he inevitably lost and got sealed. And this is before JTTW, before he reached Nirvana. Imagine Nirvana Wukong without the headband to control him.
@Engel8332
@Engel8332 3 ай бұрын
@@zegarth_corpse Nirvana wukong doesn't need any control, do you even know what is reaching Nirvana?
@reallyhimongod
@reallyhimongod 3 ай бұрын
Had a feeling he was a bad guy the moment I saw him..
@SupremeStylez
@SupremeStylez 3 ай бұрын
Even his own kind betrayed him 🙈
@premkumarksh2213
@premkumarksh2213 3 ай бұрын
If you see in the lore of this old money it said that this old money is the reincarnated of Bodhisattva Guanyin the person who made the headband of monkey King
@TrickyJebus
@TrickyJebus 3 ай бұрын
Isn it the Jade Emperor Buddha? The one who originally put the headband and kept it after OG Wukongs journey to buddha hood?
@KaletheRelentless
@KaletheRelentless 4 ай бұрын
Thoughts on the elder monkey in black myth: wukong? 👴🏻🙉
@bensonwang1417
@bensonwang1417 4 ай бұрын
@@KaletheRelentless actually though, the elder monkey ending was only done when you didn’t complete all the bosses (not just the required ones). The true ending is that the original wukong and the destined one meet and he inherits his memories and essence. The headband was put on the destined one bc he is not yet the chosen one thus repeating the cycle.
@therminust4
@therminust4 4 ай бұрын
The big possibility is Elder = Bodhisattva GuanYin in disguise The Seal Circlet are the only own by GuanYin, total 3 used on Wukong, Blackbear, Redboy GuanYin disguise as Elder to test Destinied one to free or keep headcirclet seal
@Advent-f3s
@Advent-f3s 7 күн бұрын
Ok. I read some of this comments. So, in the "true" ending we've got free from this headbend. But what prevents celestial gods from making a new bandage, or taking this one, or from a black bear, and then putting it on his head? I don't think he can do anything against the immortal gods, especially by destroying his former body.
@Actroids
@Actroids 3 ай бұрын
All those HIGH above do not trust him.. That explains who is the villains.. Villains is not only the old monkey.. Erlang Shen also vows revenge for his mother but he doesnt show it abviously like Wukong resistance..
@Kounthunter
@Kounthunter 26 күн бұрын
Am the only one with a strange feeling that the old monkey is wukong himself?
@nocturnalmusings1698
@nocturnalmusings1698 3 ай бұрын
The plantain fan is the best one to use. You can get rid of erlang shield with it lol
@mackknapp8325
@mackknapp8325 3 ай бұрын
My theory is that Yuan Shou Cheng is actually the main body behind the sufferage only reason is because he is there every time before a boss fight. So my belief is that he portraying as him but is a corrupted Zhong Kui trying hold Wukong back from HIS master plan of converting deities and celestial beings into his demons. Because he was already seen possessing yellow loong. Feels like the Duke from RE8 it’s just too coincidental. (I am also not expert in this lore but this my humble game theory)
@maskedlover8768
@maskedlover8768 2 ай бұрын
It is about your free choice, which mean you could choice to comeback to the Journey to the West or new router where you will not
@natejoe9924
@natejoe9924 3 ай бұрын
I hope they come out with an anime not animes that's based off of him but an actual anime with him
@Ramon-c1k
@Ramon-c1k 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know bro
@jacksmith-mu3ee
@jacksmith-mu3ee 3 ай бұрын
Is wrong . Old monkey is guanyin
@vertigoblend2569
@vertigoblend2569 3 ай бұрын
The comments on wukong from the old monkey always favoured the celestials opinion on him especially nearing the end when your on the boat
@thinking3682
@thinking3682 3 ай бұрын
It makes sense when you think that the heaven sent all their soldiers to earth to try and stop the Destined one from bringing Wukong back, but there was no direct intervention from the court whatsoever They could've deployed someone as, if not more powerful than Erlang (like the girl that decapitated the bull demon king) to take the Destined one down instead of a bunch sending a bunch of minions that they know very well are no match for the Destined one
@Rebel4k69
@Rebel4k69 4 ай бұрын
Ahhhhhhh that’s explains it I didn’t get the the true ending sounded like he just wanted to murder everyone at the high council something about a dog licking flour an chicken eating rice 😅
@aligh9144
@aligh9144 3 ай бұрын
This was an amazing playthrough and the final boss fight was beautiful ❤ but im kinda sad that you didn't get to see his disrespectful immobilise
@marcelbyrd7745
@marcelbyrd7745 4 ай бұрын
This is just a true definition of it be your own people sometimes💯😅😅😅😅😅
@SictoryTheVurrender
@SictoryTheVurrender 3 ай бұрын
The "bad ending" isnt bad if you think in another way. The headband ain't a bound. The Destined one still need a mind train. The headband is like a mind training for the monkey. The old monkey isn't bad, he's helping the monkey to enlighten the mind and he might be Guanyin Bodhisattva since Guanyin is the one who would help Wukong the most
@boboon-e5k
@boboon-e5k 2 ай бұрын
Black Myth Wukong: dragon He doesn't listen 🙉🐲
@Advent-f3s
@Advent-f3s 7 күн бұрын
Ok. I read some of this comments. So, in the "true" ending we've got free from this headbend. But what prevents celestial gods from making a new bandage, or taking this one, or from a black bear, and then put it on his head? I don't think he can do anything against the immortal gods, especially by destroying his former body.
@demoth
@demoth 4 ай бұрын
The lore says many destined one has returned and none has told the same stories. Implied u are not the first to come back alive so where did they go? My guess is those who fail to gather all of the relic fail to become the new wukong are locked away to prevent future problems. It probably not even him doing it but wukong himself fearing of creating an evil version of him. Without his mind, ull have just unrestrained godlike power. After all the stone holds wukong will so he have control of who comes and who goes.
@wishfulapollo2799
@wishfulapollo2799 4 ай бұрын
no one can kill wukong but himself he lets himself die then reincarnated as the destined one who then if you complete all the side missions will become wukong himself just freed of the headband wukongs plan the whole time is to be free from the celestial court and the golden headband as said in the video amazing game and hope there is more to come
@shrimppine8429
@shrimppine8429 3 ай бұрын
its always the first guy we meet
@aarithtine4703
@aarithtine4703 4 ай бұрын
I was wondering why the destined one would let that golden headband to be put on him because I watched the original Journey to the west series and in there it was used to control WuKong from doing bad things considered by the Monk.
@Vatsal-b.
@Vatsal-b. 4 ай бұрын
According to me it was just an act being repeated by the elder monkey to not truly awaken or wake the real motive of wukong
@sebastianurena9329
@sebastianurena9329 Ай бұрын
The true villian of wukong, is control over nature, a concept rather than a being. Similar to the celestials, they are controlled to embody concepts. We all strive for freedom
@khoanguyen6948
@khoanguyen6948 3 ай бұрын
i think the elder monkey was Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara and yea she was a part of the celestial court
@FateburnXVII
@FateburnXVII 4 ай бұрын
the true villain were the people we met along the way, xD
@StevenAshworth-m6c
@StevenAshworth-m6c 12 күн бұрын
Wow nice I love this game 😅
@alst4817
@alst4817 4 ай бұрын
To be fair, if you read the book Sun Wukong is pretty much a petulant child for most of it😂
@darklight9238
@darklight9238 3 ай бұрын
It must be a huge lie to punish both monkeys since both recovered memories, but still tortured. Because it is the only true opponent of bullshit gods.
@ruairidhkoch7875
@ruairidhkoch7875 Ай бұрын
My nigga, explain! Why does the Monkey ALLOW the old man to put the crown on him? Just slap the old man and say no sayajin!
@jeremycu4571
@jeremycu4571 4 ай бұрын
check the elder monkey's outfit at the end of the game, he has a strange floating circular cloth, which the giant god with elephant themed armor also had in the start of the game. Just a theory, but being on the side of the gods, plus this similarity might mean its him. Of course, unless he has a different role in the myth, Im not so familiar with the original story.
@leaner5675
@leaner5675 4 ай бұрын
even an armour set you can get has the same thing. Aswell as the bodhisattva in chapter 2. Its just clothing that shows that someone is enlightened.
@markothulander
@markothulander 4 ай бұрын
The story of this is like the story in the movie Forbidden Kingdom with Jet li and jackie chan
@playboy6061
@playboy6061 3 ай бұрын
(never seen or played the game) They most likely promised him the safety of the stone monkeys is he do so! He's the hero of his story and the jailer of his people and Sun Sukong's😢
@LuDimezofKush
@LuDimezofKush 4 ай бұрын
I figure the Jade Emperor will be the final boss. The way Zeus and Odin were. I hope Zhu Bajie transforms back to his original form by the end of the game :/
@tswj
@tswj 3 ай бұрын
@@LuDimezofKush this is a novel from chinese mythology not Greek mythology keep Zeus and Kratos out of this
@rukakuu_onedaybloodborne_PC
@rukakuu_onedaybloodborne_PC 3 ай бұрын
Jade emperor is not like Zeus tho he doesn't do anything he just takes the orders
@jimbeanlit
@jimbeanlit 3 ай бұрын
Not all grandpa are good at heart 😅
@monstertrq1428
@monstertrq1428 4 ай бұрын
Actually that monkey was the monk that was sent in a mission and wukong got the mission to help him if he wanted to get his freedom back but the celestial court lied to him and after came for him (that’s the explanation for the beginning) and the reason for the head band when he puts it on his head if you don’t defeat all the secret bosses is because wukong splitted in 6 vessels but the last one was his mind but you can’t absorb wukong mind if you don’t have his memories( you can see that when you defeat the last secret boss and see he got something out from his 3rd eye) and because he couldn’t absorb his last vessel is putting the headband back and seal him to the stone because he actually failed his mission and was better just to seal him again then let him repeat the mistakes of the real wukong.
@saynsolo
@saynsolo 3 ай бұрын
It might be guanyin , White Tara the female Buddha in disguise
@abdullamotin399
@abdullamotin399 4 ай бұрын
Prisoner of the golden headband
@Rman94
@Rman94 3 ай бұрын
Something tells me that if we get a story expansion for the game, we might have to/get to fight the Jade Emperor(and or Buddha.)
@楊森君
@楊森君 4 ай бұрын
鐵扇公主的扇子,本來就是可以變的很小,含在嘴裏的,吐出小扇,可像金箍棒,一搧,把你搧到南天門去
@divinekatana7937
@divinekatana7937 26 күн бұрын
No no old monkey must never interrupt or interfere with the Destines one Destiny or it wouldn't be destiny
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