Will it protect against fire and pry attacks? Sure, but there's a lot more to it than that...
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@johnnywalker6385 Жыл бұрын
Safes are a time machine. The time you can make a thief spend to get into it is the time you have to respond. But you have to know when the timer starts so first line on defense is a surveillance or security system.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Well said
@vicb89759 ай бұрын
Great video. If a safe company does not advertise their components, run, don’t walk away. I researched safes and had a Sturdy Safe built for me, 72” high, 42” wide, with 4, yep, that’s right 4 gauge, that’s just short of 1/4” walls, top and bottom, 3/8” door, with a stainless steel plate over the lock mechanism, AND a hardened steel plate in front of the lock mechanism. You can’t shove a dime anywhere between the door and the sides of the safe. I did change the S&G lock it came with for a SecuRam Extreme
@waltermatney609013 күн бұрын
Yep I got the same safe , you can’t beat it.
@craighancock3592 Жыл бұрын
Liberty Safe reaction to the Bud Light fiasco Wait for it…. “Hold my beer!!”
@JudgmentCollectionTraining Жыл бұрын
Why do you think this is a good safe? They post your safes combination on the internet for any law enforcement to get for any reason. . Why would they keep the combination? . Did you know the owner can not change the combination themselves? Only licenses locksmiths can change it. . Did you know that if the combination is ever changed by a locksmith after it is purchased the locksmith has to get permission from Liberty Safe first AND provide Liberty Safe with the new combination..
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
I don't lol
@TheActiontkr Жыл бұрын
LS does not protect you, they give out your safe combo .
@svbarryduckworth628 Жыл бұрын
The only thing a Liberty Safe is good for is to store Bud Light.
@user-hp5wo3db3j Жыл бұрын
@@svbarryduckworth628That’s BS Barry, I keep my Target 🎯 “tuckables” in a Liberty so my son doesn’t wear ‘em…
@calebfogle328211 ай бұрын
What makes you believe the other safe companies would do you any different.
@benfranklin9156 Жыл бұрын
Reasonable comments. Liberty makes you search for wall thickness data. I checked them out before buying my Liberty. It’s a nice safe but 12g and can be sliced open. Satisfied with my research and purchase, built mine into my closet.
@glockman9c Жыл бұрын
By search you mean look at their website where to state the steel gauge for every model?
@Cam_88 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about Liberty safes now that they don't care about you're 2A rights??
@theepicduck6922 Жыл бұрын
Given what's just happened, you called it.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Wow, I just found out!
@user-hp5wo3db3j Жыл бұрын
I purchased on the fly some aluminum wheel locks for a construction trailer. I later thought that was pretty stupid to buy aluminum, yet alone make one out of aluminum. That was until someone tried to cut it off… Aluminum, made the right way, can clog/gum up a metal cutting wheel quite quickly, especially so, the faster ya try to cut through it. It’s doable, but not near as easy as steel.
@bmorecareful101410 ай бұрын
Thank you I was on the fence and you gave me some very very good info. Definitely appreciate your post.
@anthonytripp2251 Жыл бұрын
Dude. You called it. Good one 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Just put Liberty or Patriot in front of a junk product and you can charge more
@jimyocum9556 Жыл бұрын
Good job trying to warn people about a shady safe company not only will a 50.00 grinder get you in but if you call the company they'll give you a code to open it..
@_BlueCollarGamer9 ай бұрын
This is the real thing to worry about. Any home safe can be cut into if its not walled in. The big concern is them giving out master codes to people like the FBI with no warrants or Subpoena.
@richardbullwood5941 Жыл бұрын
Apparently, all you need to open a Liberty Safe is a telephone. And a search warrant that has nothing to do with the safe itself.
@user-mh5qg5jb7d Жыл бұрын
I hope they convict the Jan 6th treasonous POS.
@crazycomments8038 Жыл бұрын
My alarm system is the first wall to break through! Wow and I just paid $4600 for Franklin 50 and wished I saw your video! I have to add this comment, this safe can hold lots of supplies and up to 50 guns which is about 35 of that marketing strategy. Also, look at it this way, the chance of somebody breaking into my house and bypassing the alarm system would be like hitting you lottery. Any safe can be broken into it’s just a matter of time. My cost for the safe is my lifetime of feeling secure about my guns and it is fire protected for 110 minutes and by then the fire will be put out, hopefully LoL. Final conclusion, it can be very stressful researching for something you are interested, example and alarm system, why go with this company and not that one? But I like people like you who share their knowledge about a product and build from the there! Thanks for sharing!
@glockman9c Жыл бұрын
Franklin is great safe. Don't worry about it.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
The Franklin will protect you for sure, as long as liberty doesn't give out your combination.😂 Thanks for watching.
@glockman9c Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee - yea, that will do some serious damage to their reputation. Of course, the FBI can just cut the safe open with a warrant.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@@glockman9c right?! I have no idea why they would Even ask lol
@geostall Жыл бұрын
7 GA. steel is 3/16" thick. 3 GA. 1/4" thick. Depends on where you live. They make it clear what GA. steel is being used. What you're buying is time. Where I live I am more worried about fire.
@theartistformerlyknownashe12796 ай бұрын
As a retired Sheet Metal Worker, I can say that no safe under 1/2" thick is as good as a well designed home security system and a police force with good reaction time. I could cut through a 1/4" steel side wall in 10 minutes with a grinder and the appropriate grit wheels. Once the first groove in the steel is punched completely through, the grinder makes easy work of the steel. A safe should be looked at as a barrier for children and fire. A great home security system should be the way you protect the contents of the safe. If safe manufacturers went to a thin sheet of titanium on the outside of the steel, that would help prevent infiltration before adding to the thickness of steel. Titanium destroys cutting wheels, you need a much higher temperature to plasma cut titanium and it poses more significant challenges to get through. Of course it would add $10,000 to the cost of a small safe. Honestly, we are just trying to gain time until the police arrive with a safe. There are very few difference between safe manufactures. Unless your a company giving codes out to the f'ing ATF or FBI.
@JimmyLeeTennessee6 ай бұрын
You could cut through it in 2 minutes with a Oxy-Acetylene torch... But most thieves arent carrying that around, and it would be quite noticeable if so. With a standard angle grinder, you're not cutting through a 1/4 thick safe in 10 minutes. You may cut one line, but now you need two more. Then you still have to bend the metal down and dig through the sheet rock. I do totally agree with the rest of your comments though. A safe is a deterrent- but the thicker the safe, the longer it takes to make entry. Thanks for watching!
@theartistformerlyknownashe12796 ай бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee We don't use standard angle grinders. But I understand your point.
@channelx92 Жыл бұрын
A Browns safe. Probably the best safes in the world. The only thing most people don't have $65,000 to spend on a safe. You won't pry it, drill it, cut it, or even cut it with torches
@willbrink Жыл бұрын
Personally, it's not a brand I would buy because they don't make safes, they make a basic RSC with a fancy paint job. Smart people buy AMSEC...
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
You're exactly right. Unless you spend at least 5k dollars.
@perditionluc Жыл бұрын
I dont think you understand the purpose of most residential safes.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
I do. Not what this video is about.
@christophermiller8735 Жыл бұрын
Liberty safe, tell FBI you bought one? Hell we all know cowards give up that code.
@JohnMarat Жыл бұрын
People keep saying this but have yet to show how EASY it really is........ You people realize those cutting wheels WILL NOT last more than 2-5 seconds before breaking due to the material used in the safe......
@Mountaintrucker909 Жыл бұрын
Safes are only a layer of security dude. You have to create barriers before one can get to your safe in the first place. This is cameras, motion detection, dog, and locks 🔐. All safes can be broken into.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@kevincorkery6292 Жыл бұрын
This is why I bought a Denali safe with 7 gauge steel walls.
@vaughnstrehle Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice 👏🏻
@gp4081 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful - thank you! Do you have a recommendation for a camera to protect the safe?
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
I actually have been pretty impressed with the wansview products on Amazon. They are cheap and have had mine for a couple of years
@CMS069 Жыл бұрын
Graffunder safes, beautiful but extremely expensive!
@daverotroff6873 Жыл бұрын
Why pay for beauty? It is a steel box built for security. It is painted to prevent rust much like your car.
@stevendavidson7152 Жыл бұрын
Ok I do have a question, everyone is acting like that first outside layer is all that's there, go to a liberty dealer most of them have the cutaway safe showing the layers. 14 gauge outside steel 1/2 inch fire board and another layer of 14 gauge steel. And the torch thing is something from movies, if you start torching on a safe the the 1600 to 2000 degree molten steel will catch the carpet on fire inside. And no body is going to lug a oxygen acetylene torch rig around to brake in a house. Buy as you said yes if someone wants in bad enough there getting in. But no commen home invasion is someone taking the time to get in any decent safe it makes to much noise and takes to long.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
I am unaware of liberty featuring double layers of steel. Maybe on their higher end models? However, you are correct in that a torch would set the contents on fire.
@stevendavidson7152 Жыл бұрын
@Jimrod1992 Now after reading my comment back I do need to say my safe is double walled but it's 30 years old aswell they might not have the same build construction like that anymore.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@Steven Davidson yes I am almost completely certain the newer models are not. Which would make a HUGE difference in fire protection and theft prevention. I'm sure yours was built before they got cheaply made.
@MikeCookie1973 Жыл бұрын
That’s just their doors that have 2 layers of steel
@Draftsman_MC1300 Жыл бұрын
12 gauge of what steel tho? Mild≠galvanized or a stainless steel. There’s a reason standards exist.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Definitely not stainless 😂
@Draftsman_MC1300 Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee you know this how? I can’t find Liberty advertising what type of steel they use, save that the steel used is U.L. listed.
@Draftsman_MC1300 Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee like yeah, a 12 ga body is nothing compared to 7ga, but it seems disingenuous to dog on a company who is just meeting the standards they are required to meet in order to obtain the U.L. listed rating
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@theshadowphilospher7839 seems disingenuous not to disclose the thickness of your steel for every model you produce... bit that's just me.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@@Draftsman_MC1300 and I know it's not stainless because of the price tag.😅
@quailhunter9343 Жыл бұрын
I would hope that the amount of noise cutting into the safe with a cut off wheel or air chisel would drawl some attention from someone? And I have more than $30,000. Invested I can afford and have an alarm.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
That's correct! Mainly just wanted to get the word out about how thin most liberty safes are. Thanks for watching!
@tapioca8574 Жыл бұрын
Problem is, who is going to hear tools running in a house at 2 PM while the owner is at work and is going to think "home invasion" rather than think "renovations." People imagine burglaries being a dude in a ski mask with a black and white striped shirt rather than a dude who looks like a run of the mill guy smashing a back window in the late morning as most residents of the neighborhood is at work or school. Alarm systems are important in that most people aren't going to assume broad daylight criminal activity is going to happen as brazenly as it does and so recognizing it as a crime happening to someone else's home isn't something to be relied upon.
@quailhunter9343 Жыл бұрын
I guess that’s what makes retirement and a good alarm system so great 🤷
@treykelley9416 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@_BlueCollarGamer9 ай бұрын
Your buying a Name yes, your buying a safe and your buying a life time warranty. Did you compare warranties to other safe companies? Liberty comes with a lifetime warranty on the safe and 5 on the lock. VERY few companies do this and warranties are not free like people think they are. when you are buying a safe you are buying time. I feel like you didnt do enough research and only delivered your personal opinion with out putting enough thought into it. you took the (there is better for cheaper) approach. Go compare the Liberty safe warranty to your safes warranty.. You should have talked about how they are out here giving out master codes to people like the FBI with out warrants or subpoenas.
@JimmyLeeTennessee9 ай бұрын
Didn't do enough research? I researched for 6 months straight.😂 My safe does come with a lifetime warranty, and the FBI thing was not made public until after this video was made. Thanks for watching!
@_BlueCollarGamer9 ай бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee It took you 6 months to figure out how thick the safes walls were? Your talking out of the side of your neck now just like you were in the video. Just say this next time "there are better options for cheaper" or have fun with it and say "There are thicker options for cheaper" No home safe is impenetrable, they all just buy you time. If they have time to get into your safe, even if its a liberty safe, youve failed.
@JimmyLeeTennessee9 ай бұрын
@_BlueCollarGamer yes it took me 6 months to decide. I do a lot of research before purchasing anything, sorry if you don't like that. Also, I said ALL of those things in the video did you even watch?
@daveehh3687 Жыл бұрын
a 7" angle grinder with cutting wheels will cut through 1/4 to 3/8 steel like butter... it's certainly better than 12ga but not by much.... as they say, locks are made to keep an honest person honest
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
7 gauge is 13 times stronger than 12 gauge. But I agree, lucky for us people don't walk around with 7 inch angle grinders! Haha
@patrickford18 Жыл бұрын
That's true, but the people who do walk around with a grinder with bad intentions will only take a couple seconds longer to cut through 7 Gauge as opposed to 12 Gauge. Its actually a pretty ridiculous comparison in the real world of security. Besides, it would likely take longer to get through the fireboard and secondary layer of steel, if present, than the outer shell. At least on my safe. I can't speak for others.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@patrickford18 show us a video of that if you would I'd love to see. Never seen that before
@patrickford18 Жыл бұрын
We'll start with your safe. Mine is just that cheap 11 gauge you don't want to waste time on. 😁
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@patrickford18 burden of proof is on you. Haha I'm not the one saying you can do it you are 😂
@daverotroff6873 Жыл бұрын
Clicking on the safe of your interest on the Liberty website and then scrolling down to "models and sizing" and the steel gauge is plainly stated. Do you want the safes listed by gauge? Explore their website a little more thoroughly maybe. Does Homeland use U.S. made steel? They claim that the safes are of American manufacture but I see no claim that their steel is American. Possibly imported steel, typically lesser quality, is used by some safe makers. There are certainly more factors in safe construction than gauge. Homeland states that they are a "American manufacturer" . That could mean that their office is in the U.S. but I didn't see that the safes are actually built in the U.S. of U.S. steel. Liberty states so on both counts.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
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@erickalan14 Жыл бұрын
Any suggestions on better safes around the same price
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Check out homeland safe, as well as sturdy safe. Much better bang for your buck.
@johnnybbgunner2136 Жыл бұрын
All safes can be cut into with a good tool. Most crooks do not carry one and do not know you have a safe.
@dontmakememad6759 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnybbgunner2136 thanks, this guy is just insecure
@renezuniga1367 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!!
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@@dontmakememad6759 very!😂
@luckyh2 Жыл бұрын
I have a Liberty Presidential and it is 7 gauge steel. It is extremely expensive but the quality is exceptional ! Did you not know that Liberty makes 7 gauge steel safes ?
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Yes I did! This video was mostly meant to explain what you are getting for the cost.
@kevinkey5270 Жыл бұрын
You better get rid of it they'll give your codes to the government! It just happened to someone else. You might be next!
@gcarson19 Жыл бұрын
Did you protest at Jan 6th?
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@@gcarson19 haha no not that I know of
@buddyfett1341 Жыл бұрын
Did you know LS will click it's heels while giving the Feds your safe code.
@glockman9c Жыл бұрын
I have no idea what you are talking about. Liberty always talks about the steel gauge. They have 14ga (Centurian) starting at $699 on sale. They have 12ga (USA) starting at $1499 on sale and a step up to (Colonial) starting at $1999 on sale. They have 10ga (Lincoln) starting at $3999 on sale. They have 7ga (Presidential) starting at $5999 on sale. They offer options and those options cost money. The higher the price the better the fire protection, fit, and finish. Don't care about plush interior or gloss paint? Don't pay for it.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Liberty safe does NOT provide the steel thickness on their website, under specifications, for all models.
LOL! That's not under specs on model line up. That's the point of my whole video😂 you had to look specifically for that sheet.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@GlockMan945 you do realize this video is 9 months old right?😄
@glockman9c Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee - you do realize that you were wrong, right? Wrong about pricing, wrong about specs, wrong when you replied to my comments. Liberty has always specified steel gauge. If fact, they have stickers on the door jam that tells you what gauge the safe is as well as what is available. You were wrong. Period.
@cameronmills3414 Жыл бұрын
I could get into your safe with a cutting torch In 2 minutes Or anybody that knows how to use a cutting torch can I cut Through 3-4" of steel at work no issue. As long as you have a good safe that you can't Is burke bar you're good to go Unless you have incredibly s***** odds and get a real one trying to steal your safe
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Yes but then you set everything inside on fire.
@kds471 Жыл бұрын
A circular saw with a Diablo cutting blade will cut a 1/4” I-beam in 3 minutes or less. At this point cutting technology has out paced safe technology.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
You're not wrong! If someone shows up with a serious tool you have issues. Good news is that most thieves don't have them. It's all about layered security.
@CR1125Buell09 Жыл бұрын
If you think that going from 12 gauge steel to 7 gauge steel is going increase the time it takes to cut through your safe will increase to 30 min up to an hour you are delusional. Take that safe to any trade school shop and ask them to cut a hole in the side of it. 5 min or less easily
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
If you think that thicker material isn't harder to cut through, then you're delusional. You will NOT be cutting into my safe with an angle grinder in 5 minutes unless it's massive, and even then it's going to be making so much noise you will be in jail before you ever get in.
@CR1125Buell09 Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee you got me, I might own all of the tools you mentioned in the video and run a fabrication shop knowing how long it takes to cut through different thickness of steel. Yes it may take longer but not 30min to an hour to cut into your safe. But how does it making noise cutting it or the fact you have a security system really play into the equation. Would be the same with 7 or 12 gauge steel, just a bit longer in time. It doesn't matter what gauge steel, it's all a false since of security without the security system, building walls around it and bolting it down. Also the chance you or the police are close enough to make it there in time to stop it.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@CR1125Buell09 if you run a fabrication shop, then you know that 7 gauge steel is 5.59x stronger than 12 gauge. So to suggest it would be the same- no way. There is a HUGE difference in the time it takes to cut. You can't just cut it in 2 lines and bend it, then reach inside- like you could with 12 gauge. You would have to cut a full square out, or near it. That adds time. Regardless, you are correct. Layered security is needed no matter what kind of box you have. Any safe can be cut into, period.... But the thicker the better.
@CR1125Buell09 Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee I agree that thicker is better, but where did I say 7 and 14 gauge is the same? Said it would take longer, read it again. You can use the same tools to cut into each, also strength does not apply to how long it takes to cut. That is where you are mistaken, double thickness double cut time. It is still the same material, yes you may have to cut most of 4 sides instead 3 sides and bending it(which equals time I agree). Best bet is to hide safe and build it in. Don't place in a garage and think someone can't bust your door down and wrap a cable around it and rip it out. The concrete will bust up or just rip bolts through bottom. Just to be clear the manufacturer of the safe you have has many safes with 12 gauge steel just the same as Liberty, and both offer thicker steel for more money. You are just being misleading comparing box store safes (some lower end Libertys) to yours which is 2x to 3x more money. Kinda the same when you get into more of the thicker gauge Liberty, Fort Knox, Browning, Champion safes. For a safe the size of yours with its features, its not far off, now as far as warranty, and other add ons, it is definitely one to look at. But that is why you have more than one company making safes and none of them are burglar or fireproof, just different levels and ways to slow them down.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@CR1125Buell09 I never compared them to a box-store safe. I was explaining how Liberty Safe is drastically misleading people, by not disclosing how paper-thin their walls are. 5 thousand dollars for 10 or 12 gauge steel.🥴
@jasonstem4378 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but even 7ga steel gonna melt like butter in about 3 min with an oxy torch or plasma cutter.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Yeah then everything inside is ruined/burnt up. Furthermore if my neighbors see someone carrying in all this equipment doubt they will have long before the police come😂
@thebigfellar7178 Жыл бұрын
I thank you for the video and your time and trouble. "But" you keep saying you should know ??? #a Most home break ins and thieves are not going to stay inside a house more than 5-10 minutes tops. That's a national average it's in and get what we can get and gone. #b most invasions are not professional thieves with safe cracking equipment. #c You start that screaming demon cutter and everyone in the neighborhood is going to be calling 911. #d No safe is safe if someone is determined to get into it. Not even the fancy expensive ones. #e Most professional gun thieves don't use cutting tools they use torches to cut with, no noise that way. #f we always tell our neighbors and family when we will be away. And they do the same. Neighborhood watch . My Liberty 30 gun revere is all we need. And it's a great safe. #g Most everyone we know has insurance and we have every gun model and serial no# both in print and on our computer sites. So if they want to break in my home I'll be reimbursed because we did what was required by law . So we really don't need a $ 3000.00 safe. Just saying. Peace.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
A: most safes >$3000 can be opened with a pry bar. B: No one said they were. C: You will not be hearing my battery-powered angle grinder from inside a house. D: I believe I said that in video. E: why would I risk igniting the interior of the safe on fire by using a torch when I'm trying to preserve its contents? G: My insurance (geico) only pays up to 1500 dollars to replace guns from theft regardless if how many I have. Just saying. Thanks.
@thebigfellar7178 Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee State farm replaces per gun. But what we do is we have a list, cost ,pic of receipt model type and serial no# and pics as well. And we have a real safe. Yea Geico is cheap, but you get what you pay for. I'd call State Farm if you have a few. I have #32 so Geico isn't going to work for me. You'll play hell opening a Liberty with a pry bar. And a battery powered cutter won't work on a Liberty unless you bring about #4-5 spare batteries with you. I called a buddy of mine at the sheriff's office and he got back with me and said he had never seen any safe cut into using a grinder. Since he's been on duty. He said 99% of break-ins the big boys were left alone. He said the Wal-Mart little safes were a different story, he said they steal them all the time. I guess that's why Liberty replaces big boys if they do for free because it almost never happens. Just in the movies. Charlie said can you imagine a home invader breaking in and then trying to cut into a safe with a grinder ""he said"" do you think they are going to fix lunch and pull up a chair and get comfortable for the long job??? He just laughed and laughed. He said thieves are in constant motion running to and from and then gone. He said they are scared out of their minds because they know the owner or neighbor can show up any time. It's get what you can get of value and gone like their ass is on fire. He did say most never get caught though. He said it's the same with car break ins. I live rural not in the city. We all watch each others backs. My brother and cousin live next to us and my other neighbor Dan is very cool. We have almost 0% crime. We have hanging judges here. They look down their noses at crime . And like throwing the book at criminals . People know to go to the city to commit crime . Winchester makes the worst safe in my opinion. Maybe you can pry it open ,but never a Liberty. Plenty of YT videos of people trying though. But none do it. Peace.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@The Big Fellar I've actually cut into a safe with an m18 angle grinder to test my theory, but whatever you think man. Liberty safes are only 11 to 14 gauge steel, and that's paper-thin. Check into it if you don't believe me. It took me 2 and a half minutes to cut a 6 inch square out of 12 gauge steel safe. That's why I went with 7 gauge steel in another brand. As far as prying into their newer models- its not going to happen; but definitely possible on the older ones using a 5 foot pry bar. Bottom line, I'm not going to sit here and argue with you and your buddy the safe expert who works at the sheriff's department. You guys can think whatever you want its fine with me. You've spoken your peace and I've said mine. Anything more will not be fruitful, as I can see that you have already formed your opinions on everything. This video was not meant for people who have already formed their opinions, it was meant more as an educational video to expose liberty's weaknesses.
@thebigfellar7178 Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyLeeTennessee No need getting defensive dude. As you said you made your point, I expressed mine. Don't go getting all sckitzed out one me. Andy has been with the sheriff's department over 25 years. And he has never once ever seen a burglary where a safe was ever cut into by flame or cutter. Valid point is thieves are not in it for the long run and they don't bring a truck full of tools to rob homes. Nor do they spend the time. I'm sure if it was a safe for a jewelry company or bank that would be a horse of a different color. But your normal everyday robber, it isn't going to happen. And if you look at bestselling safes Liberty is the clear winner for a reason, they make good safes for your average run of the mill people. So if you want to believe that someone is going to bring a 5-foot long prybars and cutting tools and extension cords and equipment along to rob houses. More power to you. I didn't mean or intend to piss on your parade. And I meant no harm so take a chill pill and loosen up that grip on your teddy bear jeeze...!!! Peace.
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
@The Big Fellar I never said they were going to bring a truck load of tools? What I was emphasizing, is that you can get a more secure safe for the same amount of money. I don't know why you are getting so personal over this. You must have a liberty safe. I wish you would stop trying to end my parade. I have a whole celebration planned that is centered around this video. I pretty much base my life and all I stand for on this video. I can't stand any amount of criticism and this video has a very special place in my heart. You are deeply hurting me right now... 🥺😂
@thebigfellar7178 Жыл бұрын
P.S. I liked your video anyway , but it was kind of pointless in a way . Because everything I said is the Gospel. Everything you said wasn't, it's kind of like saying guns kill people and they don't a gun is a paperweight and a non-living object, people kill people. But you can kill people with the very air you breath, ejection. When I lived in Tx thieves went to a house in a ritzy neighborhood and broke in while the people were on vacation. The owner had a $50, ooo dollar security system door alarms, window alarms you name it. The thieves posed as roofers and even spoke with the neighbors, they cut their way in through the roof bypassing the system and cut their way into the #3 safes with torches. . Where there's a will there is a way. Never got caught either. Another guy went around talking to a guys neighbors picking up on nicknames stories and bits and pieces of information about him. Then came back the next day and spoke with the guy's son who was selling the farm tractor for his dad. Acting like he had known him all his life and throwing out the info. The kid took a check, and the guy and man's son loaded the tractor on the trailer and left N.C. They never caught him either. Some thieves aren't as stupid as you may think. The worst part is the guy stopped the insurance on his $50,000 tractor because he was selling it. I feel sorry for the son. I bet his dad went haywire. Peace.
@yo.jessooo Жыл бұрын
Any safe can be cut into..lol
@JimmyLeeTennessee Жыл бұрын
Of course.
@MikeCookie1973 Жыл бұрын
There are some with layers of materials that are very difficult to cut. Those features come at a cost though. Look at the Fort Knox Legend with a layer of AR500 (no drilling or cutoff wheels) and a layer of stainless steel (no torches)
@CR1125Buell09 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeCookie1973 you are clueless if you think AR500 is not easily drilled through with the right tools.
@Poke_Man7 Жыл бұрын
But the FBI doesn’t have the back door code for every safe
@richardpuckett1720 Жыл бұрын
Exactly why I didn.t go ahead and buy a liberty, they are the only company around that makes you have to search for it, it's crazy...
@glockman9c Жыл бұрын
Try looking at their website.
@daverotroff6873 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Two or three clicks is tiring.
@richardpuckett1720 Жыл бұрын
@@daverotroff6873 they don't talk about it much on their website so click away bubby
@afdgxzghzgfhgfzhazghzdfhxf Жыл бұрын
Liberty is horrible. Bose::audio : Liberty::safes
@mattsmith1332 Жыл бұрын
Hater🤣
@colesworld6655 Жыл бұрын
Naww.. Liberty sucks. Paying for a nice paint job is all
@MikeCookie1973 Жыл бұрын
Liberty is owned by Monomoy Capital Partners, a private equity firm. Cutting costs and moving volume of products is how they have become a $64 million company. Their product lineup and distribution model is very similar to Browning/Pro-Steel safes; they have nationwide retailers like Coastal, Cabelas, Sportsman’s Warehouse, and Tractor supply as well as localized full line dealers and locksmith shops. The Lincoln and Presidential are 10ga and 7ga respectively which line up with the upper half of the Browning product lines and bottom 1/3 of the Fort Knox product lines. Anything thinner than 12 ga is an easy target since they are generally light weight (depending on size) and have lower quality locking mechanisms. When deciding what to buy, the 2 most important considerations are volume and value of contents. A good rule of thumb is to spend 10-15% of the value of the contents on the safe (that of course is dependent on risk tolerance).
@Poke_Man7 Жыл бұрын
FED lovers
@dontblameme63289 ай бұрын
It won't protect agaunt a fire either. Everything will be turned into chatcoal inside. This is true for most of the safes out there.