The Truth Behind The Key to Odin's Obsession FINALLY Revealed | God of War Theory

[@abdbay]

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[@theodoreavdikos9804]

Our obsession over GOW lore is far more important😂

[@abdbay]

Agreed

[@master0fthearts894]

Athena being the BBEG of the entire franchise with each trilogy being about a different setting is one of the coolest things I’ve ever heard.

[@OriginalTrapstar]

Ok now knowing Athena is the ultimate big bad… think we can safely assume we’ll be seeing ALOT more of Kratos and Atreus.

[@HitmanHimself]

Athena might have connection with the rift, we will see if she has or not. but she has nothing to do with prophecies in greek myths, Apollo is the god of prophecies, he deals with them. In the gow series in the novels she has been give the ability of foresight, most of which she does based on her analysis using her intelligence and wisdom.

[@secondarytrollaccount]

I mean there are alot of inconsistencies between the greek/Norse lore and GOW. it's possible the writers intentionally or not wrote the story so Athena was more about weaving prophecies to manipulate fate. I can't speak for what the devs actually wanted but still.

[@flippednormals297]

@@secondarytrollaccount yes the game devs take creative liberty to change the characters. like they made her weaker than she's in the myths (unless you wanna talk about hope) or that she was asexual in myths, but in gow she fell in love with kratos initially. while in myth she doesn't deal with prophecies, in gow she can altho when she was alive until then she didn't indulge in them.

[@iug5672]

@@flippednormals297 she fell in love with kratos? wtf when?

[@flippednormals297]

​@@iug5672 around the ending of god of war 1, you can read the god of war 1 and 2 novels, it heavily implies she's having feelings for him, the way she acts and a lot of dialogues. which was also confirmed by the developers in a promotional god of war 2 video, that she's was in love with him. video name is "God of war 2 from myth to legends: gods and goddesses", check when they talk about Athena.

[@flippednormals297]

​@@iug5672 also speaking of myths, she isn't asexual actually in the myths, the greek didn't really recognize it. Virgin goddesses was about purity for them. she had taken a vow of chastity, of zeus made her take that vow, or the fates made her to remain pure forever. We haven't explicitly seen in myths that she has shown romance, but there are a few stories that may imply she had feelings for someone. But it isn't confirmed either way. In god of war we know Athena was in love with Kratos, but also they never got spicy in bed, so she was still pure. So there isn't much difference.

[@Kinenough]

Off topic theory i was thinking bout it all night. So you know how when athena appears while kraros is retrieving blades of chaos. When she says "Pretend to be everything you are not.... Teacher, husband" kratos does not give any expressions, but then she adds "... Father" And kratos immediately looks at her, means he is afraid that athena and greece still exists and they know everything about him, this also raises a question that how did athena know that kratos had a son? Idk if it makes sense or not but it was in my mind the whole night

[@dharshanmarley]

So that is why athena hopped in gow 2018 to check on her play with kratos??? Interesting bro

[@TheBf666]

That was an illusion.

[@flippednormals297]

hallucination.

[@ZyRulePlaylist]

Somehow i really like when you talking about god of war theory! Awesome video as always 👍

[@abdbay]

I’m glad to hear that 🙏🏼🙌🏼

[@ZyRulePlaylist]

@@abdbay do you have discord?

[@adambrown3080]

If this is true, then Athena’s appearance in GOW 2018 when kratos goes to get the blades even more crazy. Kratos would still be her monster

[@dharshanmarley]

I think that if the next game was set out to be an atreus spinoff then I will tell you all a theory ... Angroboda gives atreus the marbles that contains giants soul right.. when we finished gow 2018 we visit jotunheim there is so many giants body right ... what if atreus travel jotunheim and transfers these souls to them but something went wrong and one of the giants attack atreus and he summons fenrir like tear a portal of the realm and he ended up in another pantheon .... And gow 6 kicks off let me know in the about this

[@abdbay]

Interesting theory, it would be very cool to see that play out.

[@champsammy13]

I hated playing as Atreus.

[@dharshanmarley]

@@abdbay You absolutely 💯 ❤️ surprise with your daily content and have a nice day

[@dharshanmarley]

@@champsammy13 I'm sure that is but what do u think of atreus?

[@yamkhouj]

But angroboda told atreus all the bodies are fake to confuse odin if he ever makes it to jotunheim, so the giants are scattered throughout the realms and atreus told kratos at the end that he needs to find them

[@felixramirez9920]

Damn, the voice actor and animations were beautiful.

[@OriginalTrapstar]

I can only imagine the brutal boss fight Athena has coming 😂😂😂

[@flippednormals297]

nah he's not gonna aim to beat her up brutally or kill her, it could only happen if she does something like killing atreus or something.

[@reffa2858]

Nah, the way the series going, they'll probably just talk it out.

[@OriginalTrapstar]

@@flippednormals297even the threat alone is enough. We saw heimdall 😂

[@OriginalTrapstar]

@@reffa2858nah kratos does realize how sometimes violence is necessary. The regret he had after killing baldur shows it but he does it all in the name of protecting others instead of vengeance. Athena crossed the line

[@flippednormals297]

@@OriginalTrapstar what line did she cross?

[@Theoryus636]

Check this out In gow ragnarok if you choose to do the quest of freeing the creature in alfheim's desert with atreus mimir says “ great GEFJON'S GHOST” gefjon is a goddess but not a GHOST and in a real poem odin says to loki that she knows the fate of every man even him self And mimir says that the voice told odin to get the mask across the seas and he got it from the silent matron herself Witch gefjon was a matron but ghost is something unique to her in the game so may be a goddess that is a great ghost = ATHENA In wiki “Gefjon glosses the goddesses Athena and Vesta” Maybe I’m wrong but her being described as “great ghost” is weirdly specific.

[@DANIELEKING]

Holy shit, you might be right. Great work lad.

[@aWolffromElsewhere]

That intro song is lit, whats it called?

[@demon_x9099]

BTS-black swan

[@assasindetect6006]

I believe this theory is mostly true, however I would like to address some holes in this: Firstly, I don't think Athena would take Odin's death by Kratos as a given, as the prophecies that she would have given to the giants (according to this video) predicts that Kratos dies in Atreus' arms. I do however agree that she would've wanted Odin dead, I just believe he wasn't supposed to die by Kratos' hands or Kratos wasn't supposed to live. Secondly, as said by someone else in this comment section, Athena isn't the goddess of prophecies. That title and power belongs to Apollo. So I do not think that would be the reason she gave prophecies to the giants, if she did. If she did give the prophecies to the giants, I think the power of the higher plane of existence would have been the catalyst. Lastly, Kratos changed his fate because of his choice to open his heart, as advised by Faye. Cory even said in an interview that the moment Kratos changed his fate was when he told Atreus to open his heart, and chose to save the innocent. I do not think Athena being behind all this would be the right move, as that would only make Kratos' character development obselete. Of course, I could just be thinking about this too much, but this is a good theory otherwise

[@Syntax_Assassin]

Amazing I already heard the high plane of existence theory from cap kuba but you add Athena manipulation through in riches the theory so much

[@princevampnick]

i love ur gow videos man keep up the hard work

[@IamPotion]

In Norse mythology doesn’t Loki have a green mask? So that might be why it’s a mask and not another object.

[@LokiTheClever]

It likely was inspired by "The Mask" as it looks similar to the Object of the same name (which ironically was The Mask of Loki)

[@IamPotion]

@@LokiTheClever it would be interesting to see Atreus returns after a long journey but instead of being himself he was somehow benign controlled by the mask(possibly Athena). Also I believe that Kratos may have to return to his old ways at some point. He’s such a complex character that it would be too much of a waste to have him be static within the next game. (Especially since Atreus may not be with him at that point)

[@theoryart2183]

Very solid theory here. Incredible!

[@armaghanaziz6627]

i somehow already got the idea that athena is actually the ultimate antagonist of god of war...and after your theory my believe of this fact is getting strong....ragnarok was supposed to give answers of questions arose in gow 2018 but its own questions arose and bigger ones than before... considering you theory, athena kinda failed at her mission of ruling the higher existence alone as, i think, thor is also there cuz he died for a self less act too and his body disintegrated unlike others(odin and heimdal)

[@flippednormals297]

Thor is not there, the game devs already confirmed it. 2nd he didn't do any sacrifice thing to make him ascend. the theory is quite stupid.

[@Yasin-yi1bb]

​@@flippednormals297source?

[@flippednormals297]

​@@Yasin-yi1bb i cannot link the tweet by the dev, yt will flag it. i found them in the references section of thor's god of war fandom wiki. you can check it out yourself.

[@armaghanaziz6627]

@@flippednormals297 dont know about higher existence...but he did die for a self less act, he could have killed kratos just like in prophecy but he chose to be a better god for his daughter, he chose not to be a destroyer or a monster for his daughter...just like kratos

[@flippednormals297]

@@armaghanaziz6627 choosing to be a better man doesn't make you 'sefless'

[@JohannLLocke-eh7po]

What about the theory that Mimir is Odin

[@Lord_Ivoundy_Creood]

Yeah, I'm convinced that Odin isn't dead and that at the very least he lives on in his raven Munin(or was it the other one)... But yeah, that Mimir one is possible aswell

[@bengsynthmusic]

Yoo... Then that might explain why he hesitated when asked how he negotiated with the eagle thing.

[@xChaosFlower]

What? How??

[@kratosjitra2337]

Odin and aesirr - No one could defeat us not even heimdall ever being touched by anyone in 9 realms. Giant - * employed kratos

[@LokiTheClever]

Heimdall may have never lost a fight before Kratos but his interactions with Thor and his comments about Dragons implies there are multiple ways to beat Heimdall (making attacks too widespread to dodge as implied what Thor could do) or being simply too fast and/or strong for Heimdall to dodge. His foresight does provide increased combat effectiveness but if he's outclassed or his senses are overloaded enough he can be beaten

[@kratosjitra2337]

@@LokiTheClever many thanks and credit to brok for telling us to make draupnir spear, kinda look like brok have that idea all this time waiting for a right time to reveal it

[@danielweir5142]

Almost like APOLLO is the greek god of prophecy

[@abdbay]

He was mostly known as the God of Poetry and the Sun, but he also did indulge in prophecy. But so did Athena; although she was mostly known as the Goddess of Wisdom and Strategy.

[@tariqobaidat5822]

what about that Egyptian god thouth in the comics he was with athena as well when kratos when he went to egypt

[@AstralLaVista]

Thoth*

[@demon_x9099]

Abd u should do more live streams ❤

[@bigbear2758]

If this is true then there’s one thing she didn’t think of. A noble death similar to hers so Thor would have ascended making it pointless

[@WatanabeShirai]

🤔... Okay... Noble in what way precisely, you have me... Curious.

[@belikovdimitri2251]

Can you do a gow 1 live stream please i like your commentaries

[@abdbay]

Soon! But I’d like to finish Chains of Olympus first;0

[@belikovdimitri2251]

@@abdbay still hard because of eos 😳

[@broderickblack]

​@@belikovdimitri2251Eos was a babe totally, and pretty cool considering that was a god we didn't have to kill.

[@ZyRulePlaylist]

there we go again...

[@albo4829]

Great 🔥

[@archiehenty7920]

What game is the 0:15 time stamp on the video from??

[@Kinenough]

Its a cutscene i think from gow 1,2 or gow ascension or its fan made

[@xChaosFlower]

It's a clip from the live action trailer for GoW Ascension

[@archiehenty7920]

Cheers

[@shutheemperor5639]

Amazing video I I honestly think this is a true theory it sounds so believable especially due to the fact that the game developers confirm the fact that she’s the only God to and there is a reason for her to like to keep it that way it got to her head. Hey bro, one question are you from the UAE.

[@thehunter1543]

Nah tehre is an other god up thre, one of the egyptian pantheon

[@alexandarpetrov1275]

But what about the Fallen god comics? In it we see Athena standing with god Ra in the higher plane of existance

[@johannyosornio9359]

What’s the music in the background??

[@NoName-hp9ru]

What the name of the song at the start with the violin

[@nightmareluffy1000]

neat idea, but do you have literally any other evidence besides that one quote about athena going to a high plane, and the color green? like nothing ties him to athena other than through kratos. its a neat theory but you state everything like fact with no evidence. honestly, i think your right about another being of power in a higher plane is meddling but i dont think its Athena, i think its fay.

[@mibuclanbusiness]

youtube algorithm brought me here.

[@sethmiles9436]

"The truth behind the mask revealed!" Turns out to be a clickbait title for some theory.

[@altairshadow4445]

intro music please

[@yesiamrussian]

i did not expect the russian subtitles lmao

[@kingGamesENT]

Yooo I like this theory shit make a lot os sense lol, shit opened my eyes to what I think there trying to do with the rest of the GOW story. I think since Athena ascended to the higher plane she gonna have The god of war kill every pantheon on gods to ever exist and while the slate clean and it will explain the world we live in today and why there are no gods ANYMORE!!! Cuz KRATOS!!! KRATOS!!! KRATOS!!!! 😂😂😂 LOVE THIS GAME TO MUCH 😂😂😂😂

[@grantgornall7801]

Athena back on her bs again?

[@elmo1639]

😩Oh boy, if this doesn't line up I'm gonna... Not give a damn 😐

[@baileynaidu7749]

Why couldn't she just close the rift herself

[@azraelwolfsblood2902]

Because Athena has nothing to do with this. The rift has nothing to do with Athena and the realm she’s now resides in

[@keithcole8536]

Athena was the one odin seen

[@yuntwis]

LoL nice perspective

[@azraelwolfsblood2902]

Okay but now her planned failed. Cause if what you say is true then Freyr is now an ascendant because he died the exact same way Athena did and it was all her fault because of her so called plan you theorized

[@Oshaoxin]

You literally sound like teen Atreus

[@rustom1981]

It was a gamble, what if the kid did used the mask??????

[@bengsynthmusic]

Then the kid would be transported to the realm and might be corrupted by the power.

[@bigbroitach]

I really like ur vid an idk if Yk have lung problems or sum but u was breathing in a lot like ur tryna catch ur breath

[@bigbroitach]

Are u ok?

[@noeraldinkabam]

Sooo, Athena made Kratos do Faye? And made Faye do Kratos? And she made Atreus? If this is were the story it would be a fat nope for a lot of people.

[@abdbay]

No lol. Athena just used them. She had no influence over their relationships, she just manipulated them after.

[@thehunter1543]

Sorry but this therie dosent make sense, why would she open e rift to close it after?

[@abdbay]

She didn't open it. The rift appeared after Odin killed Ymir, she wants to close to prevent Odin from accessing its secrets.

[@azraelwolfsblood2902]

@@abdbaythat makes even less sense. There’s no evidence to suggest the rift leads to the ascension realm. And even if it did Odin couldn’t get in as it’s been confirmed the only way to enter is for a god to perform a selfless act. If anything the only person getting in there is Freyr so that just fucks up this theory even further. Her plan literally caused another god to sacrifice himself to save other therefore allowing him to become ascendant like her

[@FlorMattheeuws]

Interesting ...

[@Desperate_weeb_27]

We always talk about Athena , higher place of existence and what happened between gow 3 and gow 4 Is it though confirmed that the creators will return and explain all these things ?

[@flippednormals297]

they said we will touch it, but they haven't yet.

[@sekurmsekurm7343]

no

[@Robert-ul2nq]

Breath bro, sounds like you're struggling the whole video.

[@azraelwolfsblood2902]

So the truth wasn’t revealed. This is just a fanboy theory that doesn’t even make sense. Athena isn’t omnipotent cause if she was she would’ve known that Kratos would betray her by the end of God of War 3 and relying on a mask and Odins obsession just to have Kratos kill him to prevent him access when we clearly know that the only way to enter is by a god performing a selfless act then there’s no reason for her to worry about him becoming ascension. This theory just falls apart like a Jenga tower made out of wet toilet paper when you use your brain for literally two seconds

[@GustavoSantos-ep5jx]

Yeah I don't think your right

[@abdbay]

Watch my most recent video and tell me if you still think so.

[@saur2244]

It's funny how you think the god of war where anywhere near this level of story . All it ever was and will be is a white skined half got mary sue killing gods . The fact that they have well known gods in the game doesn't mean it has a story beyond kratos smash .

[@jameshawkins139]

Would be interesting to see a tie in to modern day and the common religions today. Christianity and Islam etc. Making good way through the Egyptian and Roman gods till now

[@Jr-shiungHu]

And here i thought it was the same mask from the movie the mask

[@niashion8671]

I always thought it was the same mask as the Mask movie

[@bengsynthmusic]

Yes in that movie, the mask is said to be created by Loki but only works at night.

[@theratking013]

Didnt Thor kinda destroyed/fullfilled the Prophecy of Kratos dying by killing him and reviving him during their first Fight?

[@ysgramornorris2452]

Ever heard of Occam's Razor?