the truth behind the Master P and Mystikal split

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[@cwilliams7908]

I'm from New Orleans and actually know a couple of the people that used to work at No Limit. The split between P & Mystikal was a mutual agreement. Mystikal, at the time, wuz one of the most sought after artist in the game. Everybody wanted Mystikal to appear on their song and P wouldn't allow it. Mystikal felt like this wuz causing him a lot of $$$ and when his contract with No Limit expired he didn't re-up. P tried to re-sign Mystikal but when Mystikal made it clear that he wanted to leave P handled it like a G and wished him the best of luck. Word is that P actually helped Mystikal get his deal wit Jive (not sho how true that is). Mystikal still hung out wit the fellows and they all remained friends. Wen Mystikal got out of prison and wuz offered a contract by Cash Money Records, the first call that Mystikal made wuz to P to get his blessing (shows the respect that they had for each other). As far as $$$ goes, Mia X verified that P NEVER messed over any of his artists wen it came to getting paid (unlike Baby wit Cash Money). There were sum artists on No Limit that felt like they should've been getting more $$$ but P paid them according to wat their contract called for. Mia X said that P bought in financial advisors that taught all of this artist how to save their $$$ and how to invest it. P made sho that all of his people got paid. Sum of the jealously within the ranks started wen P appeared on the Forbes Richest list. P busted his azz to make that company into sumthin and a couple of newbies thought that the company couldn't survive w/o them, boy were they wrong. P had offers from ALL of the majors labels to sell No Limit and remain as CEO on salary. P turned down all of the offers and instead signed a distribution deal with Priority Records which paid No Limit a $375,000 advance AND 75% of the wholesale price for every album sold. This deal was unheard of at the time b/c only established stars like Michael Jackson had these kind of deals. PLUS, No Limit kept ALL of it's master recordings. That's why wen an a No Limit artist said they were unhappy and wanted to leave, P shook their hand and wished them the best of luck. Question for yall, how many artists had major success after they left No Limit? Kinda says it all doesn't it. You're talking about a company that sold 20 million albums just in the year 1998 alone. Wat P did wuz fugging amazing. He took the ghetto hustle to the corporate world and turned that sh!t into an empire and never messed over anybody doing it. Comedian Eddie Griffin said in an interview that when he was trying to get the movie Foolish made no major movie company would touch it. He said that P showed up in his dressing room at a comedy show and handed him a check for $1 million for the Foolish script. Why? B/c wen P and No Limit wuz a fledging company trying to make sum noise Eddie Griffin let them open for him at a show in New Orleans and P never forgot that love. A lot of yall probably don't know this but P paid for 50 Cent's first tour. Nobody really knows b/c P chose to keep his name low key as to not take away from 50's tour but 50 has confirmed this fact. P wuz a genius and it shows in his net worth and in the fact that you don't hear about him screwing people over. Just my 2 cents to add on to this story

[@DaWinglessFly]

C Williams well spoken man.

[@codrum13]

Thanks but you gave 4 cents

[@chrisc6358]

why didnt p let mystikal appear songs with other people?

[@weezyweezy1113]

Yu did ya work ....

[@imaridantzler5320]

💯💯

[@jennconte1187]

Danger was my highschool's Senior year theme song!🔥❤️💯 Like our principal legit played it over the intercom on senior memory day 2001!!! Them were the good ole days!!!

[@courtneyjeffries390]

I was a freshman in college when that song came out.

[@BigCort]

Mystikal was so underrated very creative artist

[@j4sho748]

He went platinum, how was he underrated

[@jameshughes4068]

@@j4sho748 underrated as a rapper you can be successful cuz of a catchy song but ppl can overlook your skills as a writer happens alot

[@bookieaustin2244]

yeah

[@Foxxsilver101]

@@jameshughes4068 he wasn't underrated

[@Foxxsilver101]

I don't think he was underrated, he was huge at one point, even when he left

[@treontaejones]

What’s up karceno

[@strictlyunapologetic6891]

P was and still that nigga. Like people want to hate and put dirt on his name, but you got to respect his hustle. Without P, there will be no Soulja slim, fiend, Mac, Mia X, mystical, etc. Both P and Mystikal are great creative artists and songwriters. The fact that P and his former artists still cool til this day is not only phenomenal, but shows black luv. I wish him and KLC would get a long especially Soulja slim. All I’m saying is PUT SOME RESPECT ON P’s NAME

[@WesternXC]

Bout time Ceno! This is what we need.

[@joshuaarceneaux3841]

Being From Louisiana Myself Mystikal is the best rapper from home

[@DerekBailey.]

Mystikal was the highlight of No Limit period!

[@bossman5792]

Mystikal was no bigger than Mia X, Silk, or C Murder they all had a big name on No Limit

[@CortewitaCortewita]

He might of been a little bit more up there do to The album Beware

[@roneshaw363]

@@jaquehuff what about Soulja slim & Mac

[@cooljohn1977]

he whas fire

[@cooljohn1977]

mystikal taken pussy form women.wtf".he must be broke as fuck

[@Ty2Gudda]

Respect my mind by Mystikal and Beats By Da Pound is a perfect example of how good they were together #BIGFACTS

[@moniquefowler4930]

Ok so happy u back at this!!!!☺☺☺☺

[@404SportzCardz]

I know P is a real business man....& as a business man you have to make tough decisions....but Mannnnnn ....I could only imagine what bigger of a legacy NL would have had if P & BBTP would have worked out their differences & all the heavy hitters of NL would have remained there!🤦🏾‍♂️😞

[@anthonywilliams4020]

Silk tha Shocker - Charge it to the Game !! That cd was sooo Dope. Endless Classics

[@donskeezy8762]

Yep

[@crews-lj3ph]

Facts

[@comptownposse3312]

Facts

[@ryanwall8917]

Silk was the worst of them all

[@Ape_In_His_Apex]

Ryan Wall Silkk was the most garbage

[@jpowe2822]

I guy named David drunk faulk also produced hits off his mind of mystical album

[@tommystrawnarm2810]

When the beats changed I knew it was over. The new guys made trash beats. KL an the real beats by the pound made nolimit hot

[@riccorich]

Mystikal was sought after before No limit, Hear I Go was one of the Biggest Hits on 1996, mystikal before NL was part of Big Boy Records with BootCamp Klick

[@JPK169]

Here I go came out in 94

[@riccorich]

@@JPK169 not nationally

[@riccorich]

@@JPK169 mystikal re-released his album in 1996 before he went to no limit in 97, 1994 he was hardly known beyond Nola especially in Atlanta. So 1996 was his breakout hit.

[@simonwilson2296]

Mystikal was a outstanding member in no limit

[@rockt1147]

When they left, no limit filed bankruptcy an came back the new no limit which didn't do nothing.

[@jwalter81]

P just got the $30 mil and bounced out lol

[@PedarabbitMlk]

P & Mystikal was my favorite

[@scorpionworld1978]

It's funny how in the beginning black record label owners talk about the white man but in the end they do the same as the white man

[@teamtonioadr]

No Limit was the greatest collection of talent in Hip Hop History. They even had artists that mimick the GOATS such as PAC and Biggie. They were real and really about the streets,but they were about their business. But,they were really an example of TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING CAN BE BAD.

[@robertprince2651]

I swear SkullDugerry was marketed to be Biggie 2.0

[@breeze370]

No limit was the sound track of my life coming ☝.still listen to this very day.good1ceno

[@yomamasboyfriend4300]

This the Karceno i like...💯

[@brandonw4717]

It's about time ceno I been waiting

[@AlanSelph]

had to come here after the Vlad interview

[@702pow]

Don't know if I seen this one ..late,but EARLY!

[@freddiespan579]

Nope.Alot of the No Limit artists said.When Beats By The Pound left.They left.And from that point.No Limit was through.

[@EBerg225]

Unpredictable and Ghetto Dope dropped in 97. Snoop signed in 98

[@lacjones7226]

I liked no limit sound more than cssh money.

[@sdlewis41281]

I'm bout it

[@willywillboc]

Rumor was Master P had him roughed up once.

[@paystyles5429]

Unpredictable was out b4 ghetto D🤔

[@tonycuffee1320]

Wrong. Getto d came out in 97

[@IVdarealonly]

Wasn't no new york beatmakers

[@KickDoeLock]

“Have em fighting and shooting inside rumors “

[@K5Kreations]

"c there, silkk there, fiend there, momma there, P there."

[@Lpaul903]

Good one

[@gregglass4796]

Leland Paul wee

[@yobwoc1000]

Big Ed Mr. Serve On, Ghetto Twinz, Gambino Boys, Cain and Abel, Snoop...way too many artist. TRU popped but the artist didn't on an individual level. You right

[@tiffanyallen6133]

Karceno no he can make some shit up

[@seanfelixz]

3 years later lol!!! Bout time, I’ve been asking u since 2015.. Good Video

[@fatboy_443_9]

I listen to unpredictable at least once a week.

[@sekhemel326]

Look, I was on No Limit. I do feel the artist and producers was more than what they were worth there. HOWEVER, at the end of the day, that was their contract that they signed and agreed to. At that time all they seen was getting out there and not the business. That's why nobody can sue P or get mad or feel played. Mia X was the smartest one that owns all of her publishing. All of this was in the contract that THEY SIGNED and agreed to.

[@bossman5792]

most of the artist on No Limit had 2-3 album deals P didnt wanna be they boss forever he felt he did enough to were they can be they own boss

[@Woke365]

How mistical put himself in situations to be call a rapist.

[@nanoblulovaolution4856]

Master P was main rapper that took No Limit to new heights in the start, the others should have understood that. Also though, Beats by Pound should have got paid to stay.

[@Reign_Of_Is_REAL]

Mystikal WAS No Limit as far as artists. Mystikal is a legend, I LOVED his flow!

[@MO-rk7bw]

Did C Murder & Silkk Put hands and feet on Mystikal! I heard something about

[@illtrovert]

I heard that too, lol. I came here to see if it was true...

[@monterrianbrown3517]

Y’all heard Mystikal I’m the round of tank 💪🏾

[@miciahgalloway9610]

They were called the hit makers

[@2go625]

You forgot Death Row Records

[@MackMainSupreme]

I remember folks saying Mystikal was gonna B the new James Brown.

[@paystyles5429]

My bad said same thing b4 seeing ur comment

[@mateovigil9587]

BBTP changed their name to the Medicine Men. They did the beats on Tarantula

[@crazyace88]

good post

[@cannonball1395]

Truth be told Mystical couldnt stay out of trouble... So he spent years in Prison ...

[@EHN2024]

Mystikal became my favorite rapper from NLR after that verse on Make them say Ugh. But Master P ego was crazy, pride before destruction.

[@dirkezy]

I rem when P was out there ballin with the Raptors

[@realtalkroscoeg]

I know somebody came back here today lol

[@goodfellaseason8540]

Do the Story on Mac ,,One of my favorite

[@nexx2god27]

The number 1 Artist EVER on No Limit. Actually one of the top 10 artist to EVER be out the South. Mystical was the Slick Rick, Redman,Busta Rhymes, Melle Mell, DMX,Snoop dog,and Ice Cube of the South

[@aw1643]

Yeah why hold a unhappy artist. Why not just pay your artist

[@alcaponegodfather958]

The split was definitely not about money if you do the research it was over a phone call that had something to do with signing contracts

[@Mandology575]

I will sum it up in one word. Money.

[@Blaznguy36]

Mystical got his ass beat by Miller brothers. I remember reading and hearing about it on tv.

[@YssMoneyGang]

John McCalmant when & why?

[@K5Kreations]

heard this too

[@tydrekusrobinson3586]

I still got the unpredictable album

[@ljavery10]

make em say ughhh was the beginning of the end for no limit...

[@bossman5792]

they had platinum songs and albums after make em say ugh

[@kinginfinitipb]

Hell no that was on the ghetto d album. They had plenty of hits and successful albums after that.

[@brandonwhite6988]

Nall that was 97 the last Don was the beginning of the end

[@tmaxson27]

Homie that's just one part of the story. P old Mystikal millions of dollars. Mystikal confronted P about his money and C Murder and other security beat Mystikal up. P was playing them niggas out their money that's why all the artists was complaining. P got the big check from some record label for the new no limit and just quit the game and left everybody hanging.

[@D-Nice82]

Mystikal could have been bigger than Wayne had he not been to jail. He had hits and a following. I wonder if he gets nice amount of residuals for Shake Ya Ass

[@Mandology575]

Derek Powell Can’t be enough. He couldn’t raise money for his bail.

[@brandonwhite6988]

Master p should have done right by KLC it was no reason to be so dam stubborn master p literally had it all and got in his own way.

[@b-bitter91]

Mystikal graduated from as p would say and left on good terms with master p's blessings. that's it, I saved everybody time don't even need watch the video.

[@justindavidson2864]

DID MISTIKAL REALLY GET TOO CRAZY, OR DID HE NOT TAKE THE MASONIC OATH?

[@enochposey1785]

I think the industry is playing him cause he won't sell out

[@sbrooks904]

Please shut up

[@yahawashi8438]

@@enochposey1785 that's truth he didn't take the oath

[@deadsilence1826]

Mystikal too real for that

[@ladyruler9585]

Hold up.. I thought the whole reason Mystikal left was because he had an outstanding contractual obligation with Jive?

[@kinginfinitipb]

Exactly!!!!

[@Ape_In_His_Apex]

Big facts

[@tonycuffee1320]

Master p brought out Mystikal contract from priority

[@UnderTheMillkyWay]

Tony Cuffee I didn't know that. I knew he bought out snoop.

[@courtneyjeffries390]

@@tonycuffee1320 it was Jive

[@d.gordon1876]

Mystikal was never actually signed to No Limit as a artist. He was signed to Jive, Big Boys and another label. So he only allowed P to drop his albums cause at that time he needed that push No Limit had at the time. People don’t understand but a lot of No Limit artists was in some compromising situations at the time. The only artist that truly got messed over was Soldja Slim.

[@hendrix-giovannijohnson9701]

Yes he was you idiot, he talked about it you dumbass

[@White_Nolia]

Mystikal was signed to no limit his contract was no limit/jive just like no limits was no limit/priority

[@freddiespan579]

Just STFU.Cause you don't know what TF you talking bout

[@mateovigil9587]

P fell off when he stopped fuckin with UGK. Period

[@therealchrishill]

The Neptune's sound is when Mystikal did his best

[@TheVernard78]

That's his best album

[@TheVernard78]

@MrTruboy it was better than any no limit album other than his first album

[@TheVernard78]

@MrTruboy I didn't say mystical no limit CD was good I'm saying when he left no limit and went to jive that was mystical best CD I love the grey C murder cd

[@TheVernard78]

@MrTruboy I dont remember the name of the CD that shit was like 20 yrs ago I just remember the song cluckers

[@100mphFastball]

Nah his best was Ghetto Fabulous album.

[@mromar2u]

Not true. Ghetto Fabulous WAS produced by Beats by the Pound.

[@LSTORMTheMC]

I smell smoke👊

[@214chris]

After all that no limit has never been the same, Master P got a messed up mind when it comes to business its no I in team frfr.

[@svp2010]

Master P was on some Nino Brown shit in so far as not listening to his team....

[@Yacwilliams]

Mystikal style was not for No Limit, his rhymes had to much meat unlike P other artist .... he should have stayed underground solo

[@Thedude-i4i]

Mia x came a lil harder on making say uuuugh

[@937dboy]

kevin thompson i was gonna say that👍🏾

[@princewilliams9388]

Truuuuth!!

[@nexx2god27]

kevin thompson that is the thoughts of a female or a GAY nigga.

[@bossgold9534]

Erbody went hard & did they part in making the song a classic but Mystikal killed it

[@jbcool9178]

I used to think Mia X was the hardest female alive. She was so gangsta in the Bout It Bout It movie

[@tkrmusiclouisianimal8828]

The realist nikka to ever wear a no limit chain is SOULJASLIM check em out. Rip ⚜️⚜️ Soulja slim

[@jademiller3916]

Snoop got on no limit because of him and mystical song gangsta shit on unpredictable

[@nexx2god27]

South Top. 1.Mystical 2.Andre 3000. 3.Scarface. 4.Ludacris. 5. Bun B. 6. Eightball. 7.Willie D. 8.Juvenile.

[@Griffinherm]

Scarface should be number one

[@kendrickwalker2803]

That's a pretty dope list.. But face #1

[@jerry85g7]

I loved No Limit so much I got a No Limit tattoo at the age of 14

[@RomarioToretto]

I like hearing ceno talk like he was there, lol I listen as background noise.

[@strydboxingpodcast]

Man Mystikal only had two album deal wit P.

[@mitchelljordan3521]

Mr. Lindsey O. He really had three fr

[@kinginfinitipb]

Exactly he had a joint deal with P from Jive. His finally 3rd album was done but never released.

[@ItzBigBanditBitch]

He actually had 3. The 3rd album was Called "Let's Get Ready To Rumble", but there was some type of conflict and he left. He did new songs and called it "Let's Get Ready". If you listen to it, a few of those songs were from the original album.

[@danielfoy15]

Bruh beats by the pound did ghetto fabulous album my nigga get yo info rite check the credit klc did that's the nigga single👍🏿👍🏿💯💯

[@rahsaanhill5781]

Jive records didn’t know what to do. So to have No Limit step in was the move. No limit Jive records.

[@RealTrill2013]

Them beats on the "Ghetto Fabulous" album was hard by the way but that album wasnt mixed as good as "Unpredictable"

[@rchyrch77]

@karceno your commentary has too much dead space...you need to get to the point of what you are trying to say a little quicker..also do a little more research on your information before you release videos...i have tried a number of times but i didnt have the patience to wait for you to get to your point

[@lawsabstract4024]

I agree 😴

[@paystyles5429]

Hip Hops James Brown

[@jpowe2822]

David d funk faulk was a big part of mystical first album. He never got the props he deserves

[@budgang3]

The new producers wasn't from New York. They all from Louisiana and P changed the name to soulja production. P had artists from New York by the name short circuit and his two kids was in the group Lil soldiers and another artist name Slay Sean.

[@ladyruler9585]

Christopher Williams And don’t forget Carlos who came to The Pound later stayed and did beats after the others left. Reginelli from Gambino said P did Carlos dirty by not paying him all his bread like he promised.

[@budgang3]

@@ladyruler9585 Right los was the only one stayed here kept the tank rolling for a min and I heard what Reggie said about P 😂

[@tshort202000]

@@ladyruler9585 and that's why KLC doesn't mention Carlos when he talks about the pound because, he tried to tell that nigga what was going to happen if he stayed

[@tshort202000]

@@budgang3 in my opinion Carlos was one of the better producers in the pound

[@budgang3]

@@tshort202000 Los always been my fav out the pound

[@tonistark33]

Snoop didn't belong on No Limit but I understand he was running from Suge

[@ladyruler9585]

Toni Stark Yep this was when Suge was still feared heavy. Snoop needed protection and No Limit didn’t play.

[@tshort202000]

Suge is the reason snoop ended up on no limit, he gave snoops contract to a friend of his at priority who, then gave the contract to master p therefore, making snoop a no limit soldier

[@kweli05]

Toni - Yeh, I didn't think he fit in with No Limit either. But his family is from Mississippi, so in some ways it made sense.

[@kinginfinitipb]

P was one of the few that wasn't afraid of Suge. P visited Suge in jail to talk a deal with Suge to get Snoop to NL.

[@cooljohn1977]

snoop had to eat too.snoop can't sit around waiting on suge to come home form prison.suge only did have of nine yrs in prison

[@uptowndistribution8556]

Mystikal should of stayed. The song shake yo ass n most of the album was done on No limit, then P let him go. KlC wasn't the producer's of the album it was Pherrel Neptune n other producer's. Mystikal then soon after went crashing down, so it wasn't worth it. P was making other moves n needed to switch cuz the feds was on him bad. So he put his focus on his son, that end up having a number 1record that pass MJ for the longest top record for that long. Made big deal with Universal n Nickelodeon. P never look bacc, its 2019 n still making big Moves. Tru smart Business Man

[@tyronesells2008]

DUDE.. YOU NOT TELLING IT CORRECT ! THE MAIN LABEL WANTED MASTER P TO HAVE ALL ARTIST UNDER CONTRACT & STOP JUST PAYING OFF. THEY ALL DISAGREE & X BRUNG THE BEAT BOYZ & THEY ALL REFUSE TO SIGN CONTRACT ..P WAS TRYING TO GO TO NBA ... MYSTICAL LEFT BECAUSE HE WANTED TO KEEP SLANGING RECORDS OUT.. BUT HE NOT GETTING THE RECORD GAME IS CHANGING.. HE WANTED OUT ..SO P LET HIM GO... & THE TANK STILL ROLLING WITHOUT THEM

[@O.GHuztleMayne512ATX]

Master P blew up before Bout It Bout it

[@federal6616]

Nigga how u know WTF happened? Was u there? Hell naw. They all worked for P. Worked for no limit. It's a job.

[@sdlewis41281]

moby d was on all the hooks of the best song i think he was the most underrated on the label and he was producer

[@DionKhnum]

Mystikal caught cases

[@bmoregrego]

I wish u would just stuck to these type of videos....see u, hearing how u feel etc....2 much for me....I cant do it....seeing 1 or 2 pics and hearing shit is waaaaay better

[@donskeezy8762]

Yeah me too

[@spiderpimp33]

I agree

[@Igetsitin89]

watch my video on master p & sounds like what u looking for

[@poloplaya2266]

Mystyca was dope before signing to No Limit. Had a couple of albums that wasn't done by kLC

[@promonant]

So what about him signing to Cash Money? Was that just a mutual decision?