THE TRUTH: HOW MUCH DO MARVEL AND DC ARTISTS GET PAID?

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@thefaceofpppwhenhisguntabs5292
@thefaceofpppwhenhisguntabs5292 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait.... A comic artist who isn't talking shit to me for being a comic fan? Who seems genuinely grateful for the support his fans give him? Subbed.
@JustSomeGuy
@JustSomeGuy 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this with us, Ethan. So many artists are super secretive about page rates, which is understandable, but it makes it hard for someone breaking in to know what they should charge clients. No one wants to be cheated or taken advantage of. And you're the second person I've seen draw straight lines freehand. On of my animation teachers can do that. It's insane and mesmerizing.
@th3azscorpio
@th3azscorpio 6 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy Agreed. More artist need to be willing to come out and help educate younger artist, and put them on game about industry standard for page rates, income, and pay rates. I feel that many of them don't do it to out of fear of possibly discouraging people to pursue a career in comics.
@Ducksauce33
@Ducksauce33 6 жыл бұрын
But he says expect to be ripped off first getting in the door, so don't take it to personally.
@Persephone01
@Persephone01 6 жыл бұрын
Him drawing the straight lines is really relaxing to me :3
@skymarshallmarz5573
@skymarshallmarz5573 6 жыл бұрын
The lines arent straight, but appear to be because of consistancy and practice. really straight lines are done with a ruler, lol. Still, this guy is good!
@DARKGORZ
@DARKGORZ 6 жыл бұрын
Straight lines are difficult. I have a hard time not shaking when I draw my lines; I need to learn to subconsciously rotate the page around while I ink.
@nanettesage1112
@nanettesage1112 6 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest reasons companies (Banks for example) have done so well at lowering the wages of people is because of the secrecy. It is to the benefit of the older artists to share this kind of knowledge. It helps THEM to keep the wages of the industry at a rate they want. Keeping such secret only gives the power to the employer. BOTH need to have the ability to negotiate. Not just the employer. Once Unions are finally eliminated in the USA, people will see wages plummet a lot more, for then, no longer do the working bees have the power.
@nanettesage1112
@nanettesage1112 6 жыл бұрын
meaturama, in most large profitable corporations the top executives are paid well. Banks being some of the highest of wages. That's pretty much almost a given fact. However, in MOST corporations, compared to the high level executives, middle management is paid a reasonable wage, and the lower level employees are paid horribly. In those LOWER level jobs, they do not want employees sharing with each other what they make. That is one of the reasons Human Resources, only give a vague range as to what a persons position pays within their corporation. It is also a tool to keep wages down because if enough employees know how low their wages are, they could leave or organize and strike. It is a technique that was introduced in 1955 in the Mining industry where they were cutting minors wages but were telling the minors they were not getting nearly as big of a cut as others. That, if they told others what they are getting, it would only mean THEY would have to accept a LARGER CUT to ensure equal pay. This method was very popular and was eventually put to a large scale use within the Auto Industry. When wages are kept secret, all that does is promote lower wages and higher profits for upper level Executives. THIS is why many BANKERS also achieve their MULTI-MILLION Dollar bonus.
@PaperPatriot
@PaperPatriot 6 жыл бұрын
Subscribed, thanks so much for this! I was expecting a random guy that's done some research explaining his findings. hearing an actual professional deliver the information in a relaxed format like this was fresh.
@mrzack888
@mrzack888 5 жыл бұрын
Put playback speed to 1.75
@duncanwalden7867
@duncanwalden7867 5 жыл бұрын
Way more than I expected actually. You, my friend, have a new subscriber.
@thomasmoore7411
@thomasmoore7411 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Uncle Ethan. Would you ever show us all the Superhero/Villains you ever helped to create? It would be very interesting to see. Hope you had a great Christmas.
@ComicArtistProSecrets
@ComicArtistProSecrets 6 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@tibfulv
@tibfulv 6 жыл бұрын
Is Sinestro one of yours? Sadly I stopped reading DC post-Crisis, so I only know Oa and the GL Corps from the JLA comics which sometimes got published in my country.
@HALberdier17
@HALberdier17 6 жыл бұрын
Stephan Brun No Sinestro originally was a Silver Age character. Though he did create the modern look of Sinestro and the Sinestro Corps.
@eddysgaming9868
@eddysgaming9868 6 жыл бұрын
If only there were guys like you and KZbin when I was a young struggling artist. Sad to say, but it seems like comic book illustration is a young man, or woman's game. I'm still amazed at how quickly you go straight to inks, after roughing in the basics of the image...and it looks great! More videos like these, they offer encouragement and honest info. on how to break into the business.
@th3azscorpio
@th3azscorpio 6 жыл бұрын
D. Saunders Comics/ art is not a young man or woman's game. Like the above poster said, you can go the self published route. Create your own stories, and sell them to an audience. With all of the online ebook/ printing and publishing means available at your hands today, the possibilities are truly endless. There isn't a better time for artist than now.
@OGDweeb
@OGDweeb 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the older I get, the less creative I become. I, too, feel like at this point, I'm just making art for personal enjoyment, rather than to build a professional portfolio. I quit art for the 20 years EVS has been working on his. No way I could catch up to others my age now. (I do food illustrations mostly. I'd love to do menus/advertising or board game art).
@statelessfgc1069
@statelessfgc1069 6 жыл бұрын
D. Saunders hey it's never too late to work on your dreams. I can't speak from experience since I started young too but I've seen people well past 60 get into many different fields
@bindlestitch1
@bindlestitch1 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ethan. I wish I had this information as a kid. Back then all that was mentioned about payment was bleak. All the pros I read painted a picture of the starving artist and how as a young artist you should really consider other means of employment. It was discouraging. So much so that it was part of what I considered when deciding not to even try becoming an artist. Hopefully with this info you put out, young artists today will be encouraged to follow that dream to work in comics.
@SeriesOfTheories
@SeriesOfTheories 6 жыл бұрын
I just read where Curt Swan worked 6 days a week at 4 pages a day working for DC. At today's rate at even $200/page that's $4800/week. But are you as good as Swan?
@SeriesOfTheories
@SeriesOfTheories 6 жыл бұрын
Keep Rocking! Ok, good to know. I was referring to Curt Swan: A life in Comics, where I got the impression that although Swan was self-taught and whose career went through many phases, he was quite the artist and would be credited primarily as a penciler. He seemed to be happy drawing the stories written by others especially Superman and Superboy mid-career. Also the early war-time adventure stuff. His wife said he carried work every where they went, even vacation. Apparently Golf was his greatest passion and played nearly every day for decades. Those green fees ain't cheap, so I assume he was doing ok.
@SeriesOfTheories
@SeriesOfTheories 6 жыл бұрын
Keep Rocking! I agree. Of course I wouldn't presume rates were that high in the 50s 60s 70s etc. Just merely that adjusted for inflation, and DC not necessarily having that studio- actor golden era payola scandal, maybe Swan was doing well enough to get by. There was no mention of his dissatisfaction with pay. He's a fascinating artist for certain.
@josepheapen7690
@josepheapen7690 6 жыл бұрын
actually payment is bleak in the initial years you must have the passion to stick through it.. its not for everyone.... i would still say the same thing to youngsters who would work in any form of art related work.. i do cg.. my initial years were really bleak.. now i am doing quite well but out of 13 people who studied with me and started off only 4 are still in the industry .. most changed to other jobs.. its kind of a long lonely road were your true love is your work .. the rest is something that will come to you in time..
@CAPTSCRU33Y
@CAPTSCRU33Y 6 жыл бұрын
I've been in self-training for months now, and this is one of the most important videos I've ever watched. I'm literally speechless right now. Many, Many, Many Thanks Mr. Sciver!
@ComicArtistProSecrets
@ComicArtistProSecrets 6 жыл бұрын
Go get em!
@waelse1
@waelse1 6 жыл бұрын
My question is: how much should I be paid to read Squirrel Girl?
@Airdathegamer
@Airdathegamer 6 жыл бұрын
5 figures. Maybe even 6...
@drakkonslayersilverclaw0277
@drakkonslayersilverclaw0277 6 жыл бұрын
waelse1 There's not enough money on this planet so far to get any self respecting human being to read that.😨😃
@JustCallMeJohn
@JustCallMeJohn 6 жыл бұрын
Enough to buy the next issue
@atenakehnaton3965
@atenakehnaton3965 6 жыл бұрын
You might think I'm being a smart ass, but they actually expect you to pay them to read Squirrel Girl.
@himynameisbuttcorn5224
@himynameisbuttcorn5224 6 жыл бұрын
waelse1 fucking funny ass comment made my day.
@gathanzo4751
@gathanzo4751 6 жыл бұрын
The toe fingers are what allow you to draw so well i think , you have a physiological advantage over non mutants lol
@PaulDozierZZoMBiE13
@PaulDozierZZoMBiE13 6 жыл бұрын
There used to be a book called "The Business of Comics" that covered a lot of this stuff. Back in the day when I entertained the pie-in-the-sky dreams of working in comics I found it extremely helpful. Even though I never "made it" in the industry, I still highly recommend it if you can find a copy. Much of it will be out of date as this came out in the 90's, but I still think there are valuable lessons in there.
@danielvaega
@danielvaega 6 жыл бұрын
Watching you draw those lines is equal parts soothing and terrifying!
@Mahaveez
@Mahaveez 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for deciding to make Jordan Peterson one of your clients! I sure hope you got a royalty deal there, the book's looking to top charts.
@bleack8701
@bleack8701 6 жыл бұрын
I know it's your job and all, but it blows my mind how casually you draw perfectly straight lines (studying to be an engineer so all lines are made with a ruler)
@rodolfouc
@rodolfouc 6 жыл бұрын
Great tips. Thank you! One question: How can an artist from another country have a chance to work in DC?
@RobertMarzullo
@RobertMarzullo 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome advice. Greatly appreciate the honest information you have shared. Any suggestions on where or who to show some page work to? Thank you and keep up the nice work with your channel! :)
@hawaiidispenser
@hawaiidispenser 6 жыл бұрын
Brand new pencilers can make $150-$200 per page? Not bad for starting out.
@TheDreamSyndicateArts
@TheDreamSyndicateArts 6 жыл бұрын
+hawaiidispenser Depends on whether you're a fast penciler or not. I've heard a good pace for a penciler's 1.5 pages/day and some really fast artists can do 2 pages/day, but if you're earning on the lower end and take 2 days to make a beautiful page, you'd be making what most do in retail jobs. If what you do ends-up hitting with fans, it'd be worth it to take your time in the long-run, but if not, things could get pretty bleak.
@antwan1357
@antwan1357 6 жыл бұрын
I work in retail and was just thinking the same thing I make about the same as that guy and his ceiling is lower because I can get paid the hour his page divided by 16 hours he actually makes less then I do.
@Shakiahjprod
@Shakiahjprod 6 жыл бұрын
The Dream Syndicate Art Dolls Uhm it most likely will increase the more you work exclusively for DC. Not to mention adding in royalties that are steady. So at minimum $150 x 30 x 12 = 36k at the VERY least you make this. The more you work and build up in skill the more you get paid. So within 5 years you'll be making 300 bucks a page in no time and have a steady flow of money. This is assuming you take a full month for 18 pages of inks. Life also isn't all about money in the first place...
@christopherblalockfineart3557
@christopherblalockfineart3557 6 жыл бұрын
I worked for an Indie on a few titles. Got jacked on all but one who paid me a whopping $20 per page and $50 for the cover. I also started in early 90's before going back to fine art.
@sleepyreader666
@sleepyreader666 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. I'll never work in comics, but as a big consumer of them, I feel better knowing that many of my favorite creators are well compensated...one mostly hears the sad stories of creators screwed over etc. Even with a nice paycheck, there must be moments when you worry...about editorial shifts, corporate changes cutting you off from the expected flow of work. Do you feel you can easily switch teams when/if something like that happens?
@PhantomHarlock78
@PhantomHarlock78 6 жыл бұрын
Love the detailed art. You can ink straight lines without a ruler!
@carloc88
@carloc88 6 жыл бұрын
That's what amazed me too, did it straight after to see how bad I am at it!
@tibfulv
@tibfulv 6 жыл бұрын
I expect it's a question of practice. As they say: try, and try again.
@Enterthemind1
@Enterthemind1 6 жыл бұрын
You just gotta concentrate 😉
@1satisfiedmind
@1satisfiedmind 6 жыл бұрын
My ex-brother in law inked for Malibu Comics (Freaks), he made more money signing comics at conventions,lol. He met the creator of Earth Worm Jim, and decided to get into video games, learn 3 D rendering, and then worked on the first X Box games. His name is Mike Christian, he’s not doing games or comics, and works for Microsoft now.
@petercharron187
@petercharron187 5 жыл бұрын
A bunch of your old videos are coming up in my que. Good stuff uncle E.
@vaughanhoward5951
@vaughanhoward5951 5 жыл бұрын
I heard an interview with Todd Mcfarlane once and he said back in the late 1980's when books were still selling a couple of million copies each, he was making about 2 million bucks a year on Spiderman when he worked for Marvel.
@moxietiger
@moxietiger 6 жыл бұрын
so the recap from this video, 500$ in 1993 (which is promised to-be-but-not happened) for a book, 150-200$ as DC Penciler , paid per page 150-300$ on Inker (400$ max, if lucky) (i heard "anchors" at first, and the subtitles say so lol) did i miss something ? But you didn't share what happened before. I imagine it was hard (mind and chances) at the beginning. I can't believe such a thing like magical anymore. I mean, only few needed for comic artist, and im sure you should telling bout what happened. Bless you and i hope you keep working what you do, man.
@th3azscorpio
@th3azscorpio 6 жыл бұрын
This was very insightful and encouraging. So many artist and people paint this really hard, depressing image that nearly all artist are broke, and starving, and constantly struggling get by. Its great to come across artist who challenged, and destroy that stereotype. Its good to know that an artist can live off their work, and live very comfortably.
@nlmoviefan
@nlmoviefan 4 жыл бұрын
The worst part about so many pencillers inking is that they aren't all great at it,for example, when Scott Kolins first came out and someone else inked it I LOVED his work but now it seems more rushed so it's not as good as it could be
@josuii118
@josuii118 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the intros.
@danielmontalvo6185
@danielmontalvo6185 6 жыл бұрын
Not Joe Sue agree
@NachiketNaik
@NachiketNaik 6 жыл бұрын
Also would love a tutorial on the page layout, bleed and trim margins, page beats etc. Thanks!
@zrunne
@zrunne 6 жыл бұрын
I've been paid from 70 - 150 for pencils and inks in indy comics. What's the deadline for doing full art on an issue at DC?
@Chalup4
@Chalup4 6 жыл бұрын
What publishers?
@chriscaldwell4482
@chriscaldwell4482 3 жыл бұрын
That is the most I've ever heard for a indy comic.
@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688
@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688 6 жыл бұрын
It has indeed been 20 years since you took an job with DC inking for Impulse. I remember because I was 15 at the time, and the most starstruck I've ever been when I met you at your booth filled with Cyberfrog (which I was extremely upset to find out was owned by -I can't remember if it was Hall of Heroes or Harris - and would therefore not be moving to DC). I don't expect you to remember the kid that watched your booth while you picked up Impulse back issues and a signed picture of Gillian Anderson, but I still own the signed copies of that issue of Bog you did a cover for and the Salamandroid oneshot you gave (GAVE) me, as well as the Cyberfrog prepages. All are amongst my most prized possessions to this day. p.s. To anyone still reading this, Ethan sent me (no, seriously, Ethan got my address and mailed it to me after the con because he didn't have any copies left at the booth) a signed copy of Cyberfrog #2 (and a variant cover, no less) for no other reason than a fanboy who'd fawned over him and his work a bit told him he couldn't find one. And THAT is why people like myself will continue to defend Ethan's character no matter how many people willfully misinterpret the "intended subtext" of that cover he drew for a sketchbook that one time.
@riseabove71
@riseabove71 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ethan. Just came across your channel today and I love it. Thanks for your honesty and candor. I used to always just draw with pencil but started inking about 8 years ago. Drawing has been my hobby and I sell a few things on eBay. I wish you continued success in your craft. Take care.
@ComicArtistProSecrets
@ComicArtistProSecrets 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome, Wayne. Nice to have another artist in the community.
@johndoe-hr6vp
@johndoe-hr6vp 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm glad you got incentive payments for the digital impulse books I bought.
@jonarbuckle1560
@jonarbuckle1560 6 жыл бұрын
Holy cow. I wish I had any talent whatsoever in art. Because fuck this steel-working racket.
@arielrodriguez7094
@arielrodriguez7094 6 жыл бұрын
Just pick up a pencil and start moving it around and it will turn into something. Sounds weird but trust me the mind is wired to see patterns and an idea will come to you as your doing it. Nothing to it but to do it . It's that simple buddy
@mygetawayart
@mygetawayart 6 жыл бұрын
i'm so glad for this video. It's really encouraging to hear these words as a young artist.
@ANIMUS97
@ANIMUS97 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. I really appreciate how chill you are on this subject. Straight forward and practical. Shows your confidence. Many thanks. Rose Tico FTW.
@TechnologyTidbits
@TechnologyTidbits 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I have been looking for this information for at least five years and I haven't been able to find any comic book artist that was willing to be as transparent as you've been.
@SunnyStreak_
@SunnyStreak_ 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ethan, thank you so for the advice and encouragement for us ! It kinda felt like you were here and trying to spur me on personally. I've been wanting to do comics for a long time now, but I've been intimidated by it. I've been told it takes a day to finish a page, for an average penciler. I'm not the most fastest when it comes to drawing. So, finishing that page a day quota would definitely a be struggle. So, my question is it normal for comic artists to struggle with their speed? Don't the Big Two want somebody who can pump out pages fast?
@ricklove2049
@ricklove2049 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a print of Cyberfrog from you waay back when I was a kid in the 90's. Such a long, long time ago. Always liked your work. I met you again in Philly about 6 years ago.
@marshallross3373
@marshallross3373 2 жыл бұрын
Character Equity checks sound like a great deal. Thanks for sharing the breakdown on the financial math of working in comics.
@antonydrossos5719
@antonydrossos5719 5 жыл бұрын
I had to zap myself out of a stupor to remember to comment. Watching you work is mesmerizing! Thank you for the pointers and advice. For THIS level of detail, they BETTER be paying you $300 per page!
@geekazoidz7483
@geekazoidz7483 6 жыл бұрын
Was my dream to be a comic book artist when I was at school... 43years old now wish we had KZbin back then. Great video man.
@otterystchocolat9071
@otterystchocolat9071 6 жыл бұрын
Ethan, I loved your work on Impulse. Still awesome to look at. And all your advice is awesome. Thank you for sharing the secrets of the comic book world. Still love your art. Keep it coming.
@PhillipCummingsUSA
@PhillipCummingsUSA 6 жыл бұрын
I'm listening to this while I workout
@tonyfrickey9062
@tonyfrickey9062 6 жыл бұрын
Capn Cummings is that what you call drinking beers. :)
@cliveschoonover1367
@cliveschoonover1367 6 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. "Working out" myself.
@smokinnplatez1426
@smokinnplatez1426 6 жыл бұрын
really you work out to this ???!?!?!?! i could see some cardio on a machine
@stroberryjimin8104
@stroberryjimin8104 6 жыл бұрын
Creepy I’m also working out
@e-cuauhtemoc
@e-cuauhtemoc 6 жыл бұрын
Capn Cummings Ha! Me too.
@JMcComas1211
@JMcComas1211 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I'm not an illustrator but I am a writer and I am trying to get some of my latest work submitted. Just hearing from your side though is very encouraging. This is a life long dream for me and I'm pushing to make it come true.
@mattronimus
@mattronimus 4 жыл бұрын
I think a bic pen is one of the best most versatile art tools that not many people use are even aware of.
@BobSmith-sl9sm
@BobSmith-sl9sm 6 жыл бұрын
Just bought GL Rebirth with EVV and Jeff Johns. Enjoy those nickels!
@DARKGORZ
@DARKGORZ 6 жыл бұрын
We need fewer corporate types and more independent contractors. More competition, higher skill set, higher standards, better quality. It would push people to compete and do better in SO many fields, and not just the comics industry.
@kathleenkennedy6644
@kathleenkennedy6644 6 жыл бұрын
I've only ever seen your Star Wars videos... your illustrations are lovely
@mechamercdraws765
@mechamercdraws765 6 жыл бұрын
As a painter it's good to hear the but two often combine rates. (I effectively do three jobs, oh joy -_- ) My only experience was with Dynamite and they will choose an artist who can either ink their own work or who's pencils are clean enough to go straight to colors over one who can't but not really pay them more than their typical high end penciled page rate.
@micahhenry
@micahhenry 6 жыл бұрын
Ethan is the real deal. He talks like this to you at shows and is super friendly and honest. Seek him out and buy him a soda.
@Barada73
@Barada73 6 жыл бұрын
I worked on a comic project a few years back, with a guy who was trying to start his own brand, and I was only getting paid $60 per page to pencil, ink, and color each page. I knew I wasn't getting the standard rate, but I had no idea I was being underpaid so badly. Because I was making so little per page, I had to work a full time job to pay the bills and could only work on pages during my days off. As a result the quality of my artwork suffered and the writer got impatient and started looking for another artist when things got busy at work and I fell behind. Anyway, thanks for this video. At least now I have a better idea of what to quote people if they ask me to draw their comic again.
@MikeyTheCartoon
@MikeyTheCartoon 6 жыл бұрын
This is really useful. I’m not into the comic book business just for the money. Drawing is an amazing thing I love to do, but it is nice to know I have enough to support myself
@timz9862
@timz9862 5 жыл бұрын
Talk about getting ripped off as an artist. F*** comic book companies. $200 for a fairly large piece of artwork is such an insult to the talent.
@trollking99
@trollking99 6 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me while working on an indie video game. I didn't get paid, had to buy my own copy of the game, but at least I got my name in the credits.
@gh0s7sama
@gh0s7sama 6 жыл бұрын
As much as I find this talk interesting, I am just fascinated by watching you ink draw this page.
@g007adam
@g007adam 5 жыл бұрын
You're great, uncle Ethan! You're a pure genius. You're the Michelangelo of comic books. I hope you will do some videos with you working and talking about anything in the future
@marineman0431
@marineman0431 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Glad you told us this. Way back in the day, one of my uncle's was an artist and writer for Archie Comics and I would always say that he should have gotten more for his work.
@dogfacedboy6947
@dogfacedboy6947 5 жыл бұрын
You know what really impressed me? How you made the darker line under his chin, from 0:00 to about 4:00, just as a PART of drawing the longer lines - saving a step. Paid by the page, you are in CHARGE of the hourly rate. At fist I thuoght you werte just scribbling to get the pen going, but then those (vertical) lines began to show the purpose.
@humberlick
@humberlick 6 жыл бұрын
In the 90's I almost submitted my art of spider-man,Wow!! if I had known this back then .who know what if? But is never to too late...
@firstwatchstudios4445
@firstwatchstudios4445 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I was just made aware of this page by my cousin who’s a big fan of yours. Anyways, I have been drawing independent comics for about 10 years and wanted to ask, how do you get into Marvel or DC? I live in Hawaii and feel like it’s really hard to get any recognition because I live so far away. I do my own inks also btw. I would like to try to het work at either company but have no idea how.
@mdfgreenlantern
@mdfgreenlantern 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of all the different characters you've created over the years maybe also if you're done any work for video games or toy design too.
@NachiketNaik
@NachiketNaik 6 жыл бұрын
Ethan, I really want to ask. I have an idea for a book and I can also draw decent enough and I have already begun working on it. What I kind of wanted to know is whether it is better to submit a proposal to Image/Dark Horse/etc. or self publish it?
@AndrewAcostaMSC
@AndrewAcostaMSC 6 жыл бұрын
Nachiket Naik I would also like to know this.
@VinceRushArt
@VinceRushArt 6 жыл бұрын
I got some advice from a couple pros that it's better to go with Image if you already have some sort of established following, I'm gonna be putting my story online for free and using patreon and KZbin to try and build a fan base!
@NachiketNaik
@NachiketNaik 6 жыл бұрын
VinceRushArt that's good to know. But then if you already have a fan base what's image helping with? I thought the whole point was that image sticks it's name on the cover and people go "hmm.. maybe"
@KillerTacos54
@KillerTacos54 6 жыл бұрын
Nachiket Naik I think you should DM Ethan on twitter as from my understanding, he probably gets them more consistently than KZbin since there are so many comments to go through
@NachiketNaik
@NachiketNaik 6 жыл бұрын
KillerTacos - TheEvolutionryGamer I do reply to his tweets but I also don't want to be annoying lol. Like an omnipresent troll... Like Dr. Manhattan. Jk
@Warui88
@Warui88 6 жыл бұрын
All those royalties sound like a small but somewhat steady trickle of income. Being pelted by dozens or even hundreds of nickels on a daily basis sounds like a plan I could live with.
@Warui88
@Warui88 6 жыл бұрын
Hope you had a Merry Christmas, Uncle Ethan!
@krisc2870
@krisc2870 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've been focusing on drawing for film because of the actual living wages but I'll reconsider getting into Marvel/DC comics now.
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 2 жыл бұрын
do your own art and sell it. You dont own your art in Marvel dope head
@willpower8061
@willpower8061 6 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see a fellow professional give honest advice/info.
@them-aasaaron6440
@them-aasaaron6440 5 жыл бұрын
Was this Kyle Rainer or Superman that you are drawing, sir? Very nice info and tone from this video as well. Great channel.
@zla3031
@zla3031 6 жыл бұрын
man, the confidence to just go for those lines. Like, if you fuck one of those up.... (I'm not an artist so this is pretty impressive to me!)
@daydreamsandnightmares9843
@daydreamsandnightmares9843 2 жыл бұрын
Great video with a great encouraging end! Kudos.
@planetkhaos7473
@planetkhaos7473 6 жыл бұрын
Yep.....I sure regret not going down the comic book artist path 30 years ago. I went down the graphic design path instead.
@Silversmith70
@Silversmith70 6 жыл бұрын
Your straight lines are insane, I mean the entire piece is incredible, but those lines are straight!
@IsaiahStewartJazz
@IsaiahStewartJazz 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting inside info. Thanks for sharing
@31leoceara
@31leoceara 6 жыл бұрын
I got shocked when I heard how his name is pronounced! Nothing like I expected!
@Spitzkrieg
@Spitzkrieg 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. You, Gleason and Mahnke should make a documentary, "Green Lanterns (Cramped hands and nickel royalties)"
@efe-onoh
@efe-onoh 6 жыл бұрын
At so many points in this video, when you make some decisions, I see myself making those same decisions in my drawings and going like: "aghh- just spoiled it" but you never seem to.
@davidallen7338
@davidallen7338 6 жыл бұрын
You sir, are a very generous person and I thank you for sharing your knowledge and insight into the comic book industry. I wish you nothing but the best. Godspeed Uncle
@ddavidson745
@ddavidson745 6 жыл бұрын
Great SuperMan pencils and inks! Thank you posting! Very informative.
@RegieCollects
@RegieCollects 6 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video. I can’t draw to save my life but I’ve always had questions about the business of comics. Well done and thanks for sharing this knowledge.
@ArtofLunatik
@ArtofLunatik 6 жыл бұрын
Also at this point, ive been learning how to color digitally as well. And i can do lettering because i know indesign and photoshop.
@TheFaceOfFailure
@TheFaceOfFailure 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ethan. Thanks for making this video. It's refreshing both how straightforward you are, and how informative you are.
@WSWarsaw
@WSWarsaw 6 жыл бұрын
So how do you apply? How do you even get noticed it get your portfolio viewed? I've always dreamed of being a comic book artist I've been drawing for almost four decades now. I quit for a while while I was in the military just didn't have time for it so I've lost some skill and the game has changed quite a bit but I'm starting to open my own studio and really really looking to possibly even do freelance work maybe even inking work I mean is inking where you would start how's how's this even possible especially without a degree is it more prominent in larger cities like New York or LA?
@WOLFanddBEAR
@WOLFanddBEAR 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, just wondering if you have made any progress? Im in a similar boat...
@johnmoser9731
@johnmoser9731 6 жыл бұрын
This video popped up a few times in related videos and I never clicked on it because I figured it was just some guy with a youtube channel talking about how much artists get paid. No clue it was the legendary Ethan Van Sciver's youtube channel. You should definitely put your name in the channel or something haha
@HERITAGE12
@HERITAGE12 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Like others thinking there was no money in this is why I gave up going pro too. It's great to hear some actual stats on it. Hopefully it'll encourage this generation to go for it.
@Stumbo99
@Stumbo99 6 жыл бұрын
Really interesting and informative video. Sidetrack, i loved your run on Impulse it was what really got me into comics (along with some kid aimed books from marvel adventures)
@rteles75
@rteles75 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the optimistcal way you see comics. But I would like to know about pages rates of an exclusive artist. Is it possible? Just a average rate. Thank you.
@SoraMatt
@SoraMatt 6 жыл бұрын
I can't draw to save my life but I've been writing little comics since I was 15, took "creating comics" classes in college to focus on how to write plots, dialogue, even learned how to do the most basic of basic breakdowns, but pencils to where I could be happy putting it out in the world myself? That's beyond my league and I've tried. Now trying to get my passion project book self published and drawn. Not cheap. Can you sometime talk about why it is difficult to break into comics as a writer despite greats like Geoff Johns or Charles Soule or so on or so forth because I've heard stories you get at most 100-200 bucks an issue without salary and unless you're writing 12 books a year x 12 series a year, that's shocking. As somebody whose worked in comics and knows writers, maybe someday you could go into how to work with the Big Two as a writer given how much more difficult it is and what to do to break in as a writer?
@lucasjustice
@lucasjustice 5 жыл бұрын
Will definitely be checking out this book
@toddvanpool845
@toddvanpool845 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool. While I would never be a comic book creator, I enjoyed hearing you insights.
@Musashi246
@Musashi246 4 жыл бұрын
I know amateurs that get 500-1500/page using patreon. And only produce 1 page per week. Shocking that big companies pay so little
@JonathanJrNeal
@JonathanJrNeal 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Ethan!
@TheDetroitLion313
@TheDetroitLion313 Жыл бұрын
Love your work and thank you for the advice. DC...here I come.
@OGDweeb
@OGDweeb 6 жыл бұрын
EVS, a lot of ppl mentioning your straight lines. Did your teacher(s) also make you practice "perfect circles"? That was NO fun 😂
@grapesoder1301
@grapesoder1301 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting me back into drawing
@davidlutz2242
@davidlutz2242 6 жыл бұрын
Love the intro....that looks bad ass
@redmed10
@redmed10 6 жыл бұрын
thats a lot of straight lines. seems so simple but the texture he achieves is almost 3 dimensional. always amazed at the eye that artists have for details.
@TheEffre
@TheEffre 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Uncle Ethan, great video as always, and I hope you had a Merry Christmas. I just had a question. I am currently 14 years old, and I just recently got into drawing. I was just wondering if it is possible that I waited too long to get into drawing, as I don't have much experience at all.
@nervclax7458
@nervclax7458 6 жыл бұрын
There is nothing you can't do if you start at 14.
@richarddunn7017
@richarddunn7017 6 жыл бұрын
Practice!!!! Every time you look at art you like, I want you to keep in the back of your mind, these artists do art 8 to 10 hours a day. They are this good because this is what they DO!
@JohnAPrescott
@JohnAPrescott 6 жыл бұрын
go find feng zu with Design Cinema...you want a motivational teacher...he is the bomb....get to drawing! Good luck!
@ocscad
@ocscad 6 жыл бұрын
I had NO idea you could make 6 figures in comic art...Question... How or What do I need to do to become an Inker in the comic book field...I have drawn comic book heroes and villains for years... I teach classes on portrait and figure painting in the classical sense of the Old Masters such as Leonardo Da Vinci...Michael Angelo..Caravaggio...Raphael...and almost all the old masters techniques....but I love the style of the comic book artists...How do I break into this wonderful field ???
@franciscobello1519
@franciscobello1519 6 жыл бұрын
As a contractor I assume that, even with exclusivity to the publisher, u have to cover your own health insurance, workers comp, and retirement fund. Thanks for your candor!
@ApostleBenD7672
@ApostleBenD7672 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the insight on this topic, I wanted to know more about the payment of being a comic book artist so I have more knowledge about the big two (or four if ya count Image and Dark Horse), and how it works. so, this is really helpful.
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