The ULTIMATE Amiga Retro Gaming Setup - CD32 & TF330 Expansion

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Dan Wood

Dan Wood

4 жыл бұрын

The Amiga CD32 console doesn't seem to get much love these days, but in this video I transform it into my ultimate gaming setup with the help of the fantastic TerribleFire 330 accelerator and expansion.
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@YOLKFOLK
@YOLKFOLK 4 жыл бұрын
I loved my CD32... Nobody can change my mind!
@MadPeteST
@MadPeteST 4 жыл бұрын
Dan, so weird as I just recently got this exact setup and I've been thinking the exact same! I've got quite a few Amiga"s, but since I got my CD32 with the TF330 and riser, I've been addicted to it and it's been my first call above the others...I wasn't expecting that. I had a CD32 for Christmas at launch, but I never loved it the way I do now... With the TF330 it's brilliant 😍
@amigaretroist228
@amigaretroist228 3 жыл бұрын
Got also CD32 and TF330 quite recently. I love it! Works like a charm and pleasure to use.
@forza3183
@forza3183 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Vid Dan. Thank you for upload.
@skilgannon1971
@skilgannon1971 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan and for Amiga stuff I actually learned something I wasn't aware of (which is unusual)!!! I will admit to not knowing the A4000 keyboard fitted the Aux port on the CD32! I of course went and tried this with my own A4000 keyboard and following a "well I'll be" moment I now have a fully fledged A1200 in the shape of my CD32 (I also have the Kipper expansion too for RGB etc but not the TF itself since my pimped out A1200 already has an 030 and all sorts so no real need). Interestingly the developer comes along to our Scottish Amiga User Group meetings occasionally :) I'm really enjoying your return to the videos mate :)
@AdiSneakerFreak
@AdiSneakerFreak 4 жыл бұрын
Looks great Dan
@32Bits
@32Bits 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you for showcasing the CD32 and in particular it paired with the TF card. The CD32 is basically a small form factor A1200 and with the FT330 it is the ultimate Amiga gaming setup. I bought and have my original NTSC CD32 back in the day new and have been running this exact setup and cant say enough good things about it. I found the Sun Race Industrial two years ago and its a perfect fit with the CD32. looking forward to your TF360 video!
@dotmatrixmoe
@dotmatrixmoe 4 жыл бұрын
AVGN told me the bad side of the Amiga. (Because his job is to criticize the cons in games/consoles.) But now, this video taught me the good side of the Amiga. Guess I can feel more comfortable around the Amiga, but still know there are cons.
@dustL00P
@dustL00P 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video. Sharing the love for the CD32. When I get the cash I will be getting this setup for sure
@smeghead6123
@smeghead6123 4 жыл бұрын
Love my CD32 had it from new, and it's set up ready to go with two comp pro controllers.
@superamario6464
@superamario6464 4 жыл бұрын
Duuuuuude! Sweet set up! I knew you could hook it up to make it an A1200 bit never seen it done. Btw, modernvintageGamer on your latest pod was absolutely awesome! Love his work and I'll be keeping that episode
@67amiga
@67amiga 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a CD32 and SX-1 brand new. I picked up a second CD32 about 12 years ago. Been thinking about getting the 030 Terriblefire, but saw Stephen was working on a 060 with some other bells & whistles. Waiting to see his final results.
@mrbagitos
@mrbagitos 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative piece Dan. I used to have a CD32. It had a white Commodore logo and an 8 pin mini din socket on the back. Turned out it was a French unit. Played all the games fine on a standard UK TV. I ended up selling the CD32 and replaced it with an A600 as most of the games I wanted to play were on this system anyway. Just need to upgrade the RAM and fit a cf hard drive with Whdload. I do like your setup though and the mini keyboard fits in nicely.
@gvgkftjd
@gvgkftjd 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dan this video was awesome. I remember entering a cd32 competition in gamesmaster mag back in the 90s obvs I didn't win but even to this day I never had one dispite owning all other models lol. Cheers keep it up.
@Jaw0lf
@Jaw0lf 4 жыл бұрын
I have also added the same TF330 to my CD32 and such a difference, actually it runs faster than my Blizzard 030 '50 on my A1200! Thankfully I had a dark PS2 keyboard and the same Competition Pro Pad that I could use with it and it is very transportable now. I have also 3D printed a cover for it to fit over the back and can sort one for you Dan. I loved the tiny launcher and had not seen that before so will have a look for it......
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Dan =D
@danielson9579
@danielson9579 4 жыл бұрын
I loved my cd32 I had it hooked to my A1200
@ohrom8159
@ohrom8159 4 жыл бұрын
nice video i just picked a NTSC CD32 last week and a FMV Module from Italy that was sold as is not working, but works fine in my CD32, I originally had bought one in the US when i went to the World of Amiga show in New York i think it was on pear 99 in 1993 and when i heard Commodore went bankrupt i quickly sold it. Most people didn't know that that's where the CD32's were sold in the US i think they came in Via Canada. And now i have one once again.
@stairmand
@stairmand 4 жыл бұрын
The problem was an A1200 did everything a CD32 did but had a huge library of (mostly copied) disks already. There was already other consoles coming that had better 3D support.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same problem that plagued every other bloody "computer to console conversion" that Commodore ever made, really. There was little scope for CD32 specific software and without a substantial userbase of it's own, publishers wouldn't dedicate the resources to even try, instead favouring slight rejigs of thieir existng Amiga software. With hindsight, they probably would have been better off releasing their cd1200 addon, but the problem with a peripherial is that you can only ever sell it to a fraction of people who are already your customers. But CD-ROM had clear value for existing amiga owners whereas the CD32's value proposition was fairly suspect for new customers.
@xubidoo4415
@xubidoo4415 4 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of CD32 titles in development that simply didn't see the light of day due to the big C going bust, many were apparently CD32 specific making full use of the system (Akkiko chip) and CD-Rom, shame we never actually got to see them.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
@@xubidoo4415 a lot of what did get released wound up on the 1200: For example, Liberation: Captive 2, Guardian, Roadkill. It didn't take much for a lightly upgraded 1200 to outpace the CD32. A PCMCIA cdrom drive and a bit of fast ram, and the Akiko chunky to planar was easily done in software. Strip out or pare down animations, and you could often obviate the need for a CD, too. While I'm sure many titles *were* cancelled, a lot would eventually see light of day on DOS CD-Rom. I think much of Cryo's PC output (Megarace, etc) was originally planned to come to CD32 as well.
@Retro_Sorcerer
@Retro_Sorcerer 4 жыл бұрын
I had a fantastic setup, keyboard, mouse, gotek, and dozens of big box games. I sold it a few years ago for only £150 to buy my daughter's Christmas presents.
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo 4 жыл бұрын
Finally I get to see one of those CD32 turned into a fully working Amiga. Should link your video to a good pal too, he is a big fan of the Amiga line of computers and too has a CD32 in his collection.
@HitBit_Gaming
@HitBit_Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
I had a CD-32 with SX-1 and loved it. I used a CD-TV keyboard that was altered to have a black keyboard that looks good and I added a external case to put a 3.5" HD inside together with a floppy drive with some DiY. For the rest I added 4 MB fast-ram to upgrade the default 2 MB chip-ram. I remember saving up and buying almost every game that was worth to get the CD-32 version for. Some of the games I remember having the CD-32 version of that I played a lot was Rise of the Robots, Roadkill, Jetstrike and Microcosm. I was sad to replace it with my first MS-Dos/Windows based machine.
@RetroGamingBlog
@RetroGamingBlog 9 ай бұрын
Ah, love it Dan. The CD32 is the black sheep of the 32bit systems, but really it has a lot to offer. I had one with the floppy mod. I since passed that one but have the A1200. Hope to pick one up in the future.
@manueljesus3147
@manueljesus3147 4 жыл бұрын
Had one the SX-1 and the FMV cart, nice machine (if you were a pre existing Amiga user). It will be even better when my Amiga 1200 accelerator to CD32 adapter gets here in a few days and I plop a Vampire 1200 in there.
@RonHelton
@RonHelton 4 жыл бұрын
"I just didn't get around to doing a video until now...." Translation: "I have been having too much fun playing games on this setup for a year now and could not be bothered to make a video."
@danwood_uk
@danwood_uk 4 жыл бұрын
Can't deny this
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 4 жыл бұрын
@Spooksville Scoob Although some games will have an issue with NTSCPAL the reality is that CD32 & A1200 have the ability to switch between PAL and NTSC just by holding the down the two mouse buttons on boot up. If you go the route of an Amiga OS setup, then it's done once in the OS and no need for switching. PAL vs NTSC screens however is a different thing both have different screen refresh frequencies and different resolutions (PAL having a bit slower but higher resolution) for that there are several solutions. There are the internal snap on adapters like the Individual Computers indivision card that hijacks the video signal. Alternatively use a HD video converter (external box) which allow you to use a modern LCD display neither system is perfect but they do work. Where to find an Amiga that's reasonable price! try Amibay.
@Guroth
@Guroth 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you Dan. I bought a CD32 when it came out and really enjoyed having it. What killed it was the lack of good games.
@mervynstent1578
@mervynstent1578 Жыл бұрын
CD32 with an SX1 expansion was my first AGA Amiga (which I still have today!) it’s amazing what some extra Fast Ram would do to speed up the whole machine! Using an A590 power supply which works well! Dan Wood I 100% agree with you, the 030 is the Sweet Spot for an AGA Machine! AGA won’t go any faster! And I also have an Warp Engine 040 A4000 desktop and genuIne A4000T 060 Cyberstorm! Loved the CD32 and still do, hated the A600 at the time! Vampire has changed my mind some what!
@naviamiga
@naviamiga 3 жыл бұрын
A beautiful add-on. I love mine.
@Retro-Fez
@Retro-Fez 3 жыл бұрын
I love the cd32 had one back in the day and i bought it again last year and still loved it very underrated
@amigang
@amigang 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, the cd32 is a great console that does seem to be getting a hard time of late. I find it the best system to emulate on a phone as well, due to all the ports only expecting joystick inputs and the unofficial disks compliation that the community have made are great.
@bobfromsoireegames4309
@bobfromsoireegames4309 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit Dan, that is some nice hardware. Good video too, as always
@CRG
@CRG 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan. Like yourself I'm a massive fan of the CD32 and have been fighting its corner since 1993. Microcosm was one of those games I dragged friends round to see to prove my console can do FMV too! I really don't understand the hate some people put onto the wee console, it is the ultimate Amiga gaming system especially with the TF cards. Just sits so much better in front of the TV than a wedge computer. I noticed on your sysinfo that the result was around 7 mips? Or at least that's what I think I read from the screen. You might still be on the original firmware and a quick update should see around 9.5 mips. Temptingly close to 10 but if you want to break that you'll need to overclock the card as I've done. I'm stable with a 108mhz crystal (54mhz clock) getting around 10.5mips. Drop a full 030 on there and the MMU libraries and you'll also get a wee boost in drive speed. All that done you can play CDXL video using AGA Blaster full screen 25fps!
@TFx2TV
@TFx2TV 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff keep it up
@m.m.2132
@m.m.2132 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video Dan, I recently bought a CD32 without power supply and Controller for 170€, I guess I was Lucky
@dod0180
@dod0180 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was one of the doubters to my shame. CD32 was very disappointing at the time but I do appreciate that it was doomed to fail, not because of the actual machine itself, but due to other issues covered in the video. This setup does look like the best and I love the suggestion you made of using it as a developer tool, Cheers :)
@MVLGAMING
@MVLGAMING 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is the setup I've been dreaming about! 2 out of 3 of my Amiga computers don't work anymore! And I've always wanted a CD32! But dreamed about an all in one setup!
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 4 жыл бұрын
@MVL GAMING Depending on what Amiga's you have that no longer work, if the chipset (Paula, Denise, Agnus or Paula, Lisa, Alice) are still functional, there are now replacement motherboards available that you could transfer them to for a working system.
@chunkybeats79
@chunkybeats79 4 жыл бұрын
Have my cd32 just about to get some love and treat it with new caps. Don't forget there are also some mods that were done that a great NZ developer who creates cd packs of games that are amazing. I'm going to use them until I can afford a terriblefire. Cheers Dan
@FuZZbaLLbee
@FuZZbaLLbee 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how fast you are at looking up the copy protection code from the flashback game 😋
@Kavlor1
@Kavlor1 3 жыл бұрын
I used it as a CD drive for my A1200 , can't remember how. Was cool at the time going from floppy to CD. Use to love the Amiga Format CDs as they nearly always had interesting stuff on them.
@alm434
@alm434 4 жыл бұрын
New riser is being developed by TerribleFire. Full USB with composite devices (wireless keyboard+mouse) and some gamepad support is on the cards now. :)
@AndyDavis007
@AndyDavis007 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, yea. Doom. Yummy. The boxed set came with capture bags and the space blanket for a little lie down after Andy don't feel so good no more. Just the mention of it. Thanks God there's so few of me that today's video gaming industry does well. They have the greatest cinematic demos. But when you get down into the game, their physics engine takes me back... to the capture bags (not included).
@ojbeez5260
@ojbeez5260 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one of them for £20...with 2 Joypads and Choas Engine. Quite cool machines. Turns into an A1200!!
@P5ychoFox
@P5ychoFox 4 жыл бұрын
Back in 2010 you could buy a fully boxed CD32 on eBay for £60! That’s when I got one. The prices are madness now.
@uberdude2555
@uberdude2555 4 жыл бұрын
Yes back in the good old days when Amiga hardware was dirt cheap and you could pick up something like a A3000/A4000 for £200, my A4000T which I purchased on eBay in 2007 was £250, and further back in 2005 I won a fully loaded A4000 with CyberStormPPC, CybervisionPPC, and Toccata sound card for £320 which looking back was madness. These Amiga's tho were vastly undervalued, I remember sending some A4000 stuff to France for repair, and it was actually much cheaper just to buy replacement motherboards and parts of eBay so at least two of my A4000's ended up in the bin.
@txcforever
@txcforever 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the rise of KZbin sparked the interest of collecting to a lot more people that before. Suddenly NES games that cost $5 now go for $100 and consoles that were deemed a joke suddenly cost more than successful ones. I bought a Virtual Boy with Mario Tennis for like $25 back in 2007 and after a couple of videos (on of those probably being the one from AVGN) suddenly the console costs multiple times that. I refused to buy an Atari Jaguar for $80 because I thought it was too expensive and suddenly its price skyrocketed. Its good that retro gaming survives but the raise in interest also brought in the scalpers. It's not easy being a collector anymore.
@TopSecretVid
@TopSecretVid 4 жыл бұрын
I like the CD32 so much I have two plus the FMV Card..hehe
@crumplezone1
@crumplezone1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan. I forgot all about this I sent you that TF330 it was my first build No1 lol, it`s so old it`s out of warranty ! only joking always in warranty :) And I love the keyboard I just ordered one with the Aliexpress link you provided
@kexith
@kexith 4 жыл бұрын
I had a great setup back in 1995 work my sx32, a1000 keyboard, internal hdd, 4mb extra fast ram and 2 external FDD. Would love to get it up and running again with the CF adapter like you have
@timdaeleman
@timdaeleman 4 жыл бұрын
Be careful, the sx32s come with leaky batteries too.
@kexith
@kexith 4 жыл бұрын
@@timdaeleman i really should check it out, it's been in a box for a while!!
@NathanChisholm041
@NathanChisholm041 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate I enjoyed that👍
@SelfIndulgentGamer
@SelfIndulgentGamer 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite systems. It's very underrated and misunderstood. A bit like me 😁
@ohayes86
@ohayes86 4 жыл бұрын
Have a 1200 and 500 would love a CD32 always enjoy using them at the SAUG meetings
@TransCanadaPhil
@TransCanadaPhil 4 жыл бұрын
a bit of a clarification. The NTSC version of the CD32 did come out at least in Canada. I vividly recall seeing it in local shops in Winnipeg back in 1994 such as "Adventure Software" on Hargrave street.
@wohlhabendermanager
@wohlhabendermanager 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm really interested in the CD³², and have been for quite some time. Too bad they aren't exactly cheap, though.
@manueljesus3147
@manueljesus3147 4 жыл бұрын
in 2010 there was an EBAY seller out of China selling them for just under $150 I was fortunate to get one then also.
@wojiaobill
@wojiaobill 4 жыл бұрын
they lost a patent suit over... blinking cursors?? good grief... and, 10 million? that is bonkers
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
they didn't lose it so much as couldn't actually afford to fight it.
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith 4 жыл бұрын
They only "lost" it because they literally couldn't afford to fight it. It wouldn't even have been a hard suit to fight, since there are plenty of previous works to demolish the patent going back to the earliest text terminals. Good thing it isn't so easy to sneak a patent for something like that through today, ha. ha. ha... *sigh*
@RasputinReview
@RasputinReview 4 жыл бұрын
How do you think American companies dominate the world?
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
@@RasputinReview ironically it didn't work out so well for Commodore, who were themselves an American company.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
@Brad Viviviyal oh, Atari didn't turn them down. Tramiel was on the verge of "acquiring" the tech as a result of loans and late payments, when Commodore lurched in like a drunken giraffe, bought Amiga and paid off their loans to Atari.
@MrSegAsh
@MrSegAsh 4 жыл бұрын
I love anything Amiga, However Amiga emulation has come on a long way and I have a really nice Amiga Setup on my Raspberry Pi paired with a usb competition pro. The new WHD Load Booster (amiberry) helps auto config games to run more accurately. also my Pi boots into a workbench like a real Amiga and I use Tiny Launcher to load games. I recently picked up a Mister and playing around setting up Amiga on that.. Dont get me wrong I love original hardware and love that authentic experience but its not always possible due to rarity and expense. Amiga should be enjoyed by everyone 😀
@anakondase
@anakondase 4 жыл бұрын
Much more fun to play with the real thing than emulation.
@Lucasrainford
@Lucasrainford 4 жыл бұрын
Big Amiga fan here and yeah emu is great! I ain't got the space or cash to collect so emulation is the way for me. As long as I can play my fav Amiga games, I'm happy :)
@danwood_uk
@danwood_uk 4 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with that, emulation is great but I'm a real hardware guy.
@chrisinjapan5736
@chrisinjapan5736 4 жыл бұрын
@@danwood_uk I agree with you (plus an a fan of the podcast !) but prices are crazy in my country Australia. Cd32 listed on ebay now is $700. Even an A600 is like $400 to $700 right now. So Im sorry to say that at this point, it the raspberry pi for me (same story goes for he c64, I purchased an ultimate 64 and its great)
@anakondase
@anakondase 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lucasrainford Not saying it's wrong emulating, I just think a big part of the fun is making the old hardware work as it should, and to improve it. I have all my old computers, from the C64 from 1983 and onward. They're a big part of my life and keeping them alive and working is like keeping myself alive.
@franetimalaga
@franetimalaga 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have tf328 and i’m very happy with it. I really like how you have organized that compact flash with tinyluncher. is it any downloadable compilation? or could you upload it? Thanks in advance for your asnwer.
@SabretoothBarnacle
@SabretoothBarnacle 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍
4 жыл бұрын
I'm using a A1200 as my "main Amiga". Expanded with 8MB of fast ram and a CF card (+IDE adapter) it allows me to play most of the WHDLoad titles just fine. Tinylauncher is IMHO the best way to run WHDLoad games on any Amiga. I use "Tom" usb joystick adapter, which works in CD32 mode - along with SNES controller (+ SNES usb adapter). Playing this way is quite comfortable. The only thing I miss from CD32 is the lack of CD audio in CD32 games. I would like to buy a CD32 one day, but it's quite pricey.
@KasperSOlesen
@KasperSOlesen 4 жыл бұрын
I bought this. Its really nice. I just need to recap my CD32 though. It has some sound issues.
@TopSecretVid
@TopSecretVid 4 жыл бұрын
Almost broke out my cd32 today.. maybe tomorrow 👍👍
@Lucasrainford
@Lucasrainford 4 жыл бұрын
Great set up Dan! that card is sweet! 'disk swoppers wrist'? lol I had that using X-Copy ;) More vids plz :)
@kad3tuk
@kad3tuk 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual. I would've love to see the accelerator with an 68060, that would be sick! That said, is there a reason in particular why all those Amiga expansions and accelerator cards use CF instead of SD cards?
@dazednconfused31337
@dazednconfused31337 4 жыл бұрын
8:32 I've got the same pad for my SNES and the 4 buttons were disabled because the turbo switches and copper springs broke. I tried superglue but instead had to bypass each switch with a flat bit of solder between some PCB pads, so it at least works in normal mode now.
@thenaylor
@thenaylor 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted one. Still do, life always gets in the way. Luckily I found two a600s in barn two years ago and got them sorted out. With a gotek drive they're just as good.
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 4 жыл бұрын
Add Vampire 600 and turn them to Amiga 6000 :)
@infesticon
@infesticon 4 жыл бұрын
Now days if I could afford one it's great. Back in the day it seems cool,, But was sadly a bit behind the times. And with a terrible fire you have every thing you could ever want with an amiga. And hey a ps2 keyboard adaptor is awesome. You can choose yourself a nice mechanical one.
@CelentAle
@CelentAle 4 жыл бұрын
Amiga CD 32 is an amazing Amiga1200 + Akiko !
@CyclingSteve
@CyclingSteve 4 жыл бұрын
I've had one of these for 6 months. Soon after the CD32 came out I snapped one up as the A1200 was too expensive for me, I then saved up again and got the SX1 and used the two as my main computer for BBS, FidoNet and email for quite a few years. In the end the slow rendering of webpages made me give it up. I bought the TF330 after digging out my CD32 and finding the SX1 was no longer working. It's a great system, I just need to get the ESP8266 expansion port working so I can hook up Amiga Explorer with a FTDI cable to my PC (info is a bit scarce, any help/pointers appreciated).
@mrsmilee
@mrsmilee 4 жыл бұрын
Love mine, only difference is I use Workbench to load WHDLoad, i use a CDTV keyboard with an adapter and the later model black mouse - it really is the ultimate Amiga.
@_____7704
@_____7704 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason people hate on the CD32 (aside from the D Pad on the controller), is because they cant find/afford one. They made 100,000 units... I have one.
@corty1980
@corty1980 4 жыл бұрын
I had the CD32 back in the day and I regret selling it, though I am glad to say I kept my Amiga 2000 and the only reason for that is I spent a lot of money on that system, has a GVP ram expansion and SCSI controller, GVP 030 accelerator card, OpalVision 24bit Graphics card, SCSI CD Rom. I have recently got the 2000 out of storage and replaced the old battery (lucky not damage to the board) and have got the GOTEK drive, SCSI2SD Card & Indivision ECS scandoubler.
@amithlon.
@amithlon. 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@houstonhelicoptertours1006
@houstonhelicoptertours1006 4 жыл бұрын
Nice setup. Can't say that many positive things about the CD32. Imported one cheap in 1994 when things went belly up for Commodore. Just like the CDTV...another nail in the coffin of C=.
@TheJeremyHolloway
@TheJeremyHolloway 4 жыл бұрын
At least the CDTV has a nice AV case to it though...
@HoboVibingToMusic
@HoboVibingToMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I've never know about commodore, or, anything retro till i started watching AVGN. And then 4 years later i've became a commodore nerd. Current owner of an (malfunctioned) C64G and Amiga 500 (w/ ram expansion). And, honestly, they are 2 of my favorite from retro tech. Amiga is a beauty, just need to get a GoTek and softmod it! Maybe in future i will contribute to hardware side of Amiga! :D
@mraaron1584
@mraaron1584 4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that it was never sold in north america. however that law suit that stopped them from selling it in the usa did not apply to canada some of the ntsc units that were going to be sold in the usa were shipped up to canada and sold there. it did not sell well so the ntsc version are super rare.
@retrogameroom9019
@retrogameroom9019 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that avgn
@NeonEUC
@NeonEUC 4 жыл бұрын
my all time fav machine. had all the games in mint boxed condition. god knows what happened to them all tho lol
@lifeschool
@lifeschool 4 жыл бұрын
"The 030 is the sweet-spot" - I couldnt agree more, my favourite CPU. :)
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, even a full-fat 020, rather than the EC model on the mainboard of the 1200 is a big improvement.
@lifeschool
@lifeschool 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTurnipKing - As the CD32 ran at half speed due to having no fast ram, even fast ram would speed up the crippled o20 on the CD32. Without it, it ran at A500 speeds.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
@@lifeschool The 020EC was definately faster than the 500's 68k, if nothing else because it was clocked at 14mhz vs the 7mhz in the older machine. But yeah, most amigas were somewhat hobbled straight out of the gate without fast ram.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 4 жыл бұрын
Slightly swings and roundabouts though, since while there was a speed penalty from the only ram in the system being contended with the graphics, the graphics chipset was at least maxed in terms of available memory, unlike the 500 which needed separate upgrades for chip and fast.
@johandenhertog6878
@johandenhertog6878 4 жыл бұрын
TheTurnipKing The ACA1221LC is a great card with the 020EC on it. Can go to 40MHz with IDE Soeeder on it. Only the Fastmem us not so geat than the old ACA1221.
@WendeXTX
@WendeXTX 4 жыл бұрын
As an expansion of the Amiga, the CD32 isn't too bad, with add-ons it is essentially an A1200. As a game console coming out in late 1993, the hardware was showing its age. Lots of the games were CD versions of preexisting software, and they featured quirks like music or sfx only and only one button input on the controller. The Amstrad GX4000 and the Commodore 64GS had similar problems, but were even older hardware that could do less than the original.
@TrainerCTZ
@TrainerCTZ 3 жыл бұрын
1:08 That's a shocking graph. To see them regularly surpassing $1 billion in yearly revenue yet their yearly profit margin was always near break even. Then again, I guess that's great when you've paid thousands of salaries, etc zero profit is not that bad.
@zarkeh3013
@zarkeh3013 4 жыл бұрын
Huh, I got an Atari XE Game Machine for the very idea that it's a great way to experience the Atari 8-bit games! CD-32 is a great way to experience the 16-bit era too! neat
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 4 жыл бұрын
I have an XE but I have nowhere to put it. Even my A1200 is boxed most of the time :-(
@johandenhertog6878
@johandenhertog6878 4 жыл бұрын
I use the AMIGA CD32 as CD-ROM on my A1200 CD32 Limited Edition case from A1200NET (great combo). And the CD32 Competition Pro controller is superior than the original strange CD32 controller.
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 4 жыл бұрын
Ohh gosh I love the Sega Mega Drive! But I love the Amiga almost as much so it’s ok!
@infesticon
@infesticon 4 жыл бұрын
Dude you can love more than one machine. We don't have to beg our parents for machine and pray to god we picked the right one now days.
@RETROCENGO
@RETROCENGO 4 жыл бұрын
I agree on that 030 is absolutely the sweet spot. Whats the reading speed mb/sec with this setup?
@xubidoo4415
@xubidoo4415 4 жыл бұрын
my cd32/tf330 is around 2.3mb sec , but i don't have a great CF card, seen CRG - kzbin.info/door/7C0p5DPOBkusUoGf8zIceA and he gets over 5mb sec!! but he appears to have a much faster CF card than me and much more expensive :D
@horrormann7425
@horrormann7425 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with cd32 is that at the time systems like 3do and jaguar were coming out. These had proper next gen games, not just amiga games on a CD.
@Harp00nX
@Harp00nX 4 жыл бұрын
When the CD32 was being designed in 1993 it was to compete with the Mega CD and Super Nintendo and for the time the CD32 was a decent idea, it sold well and sold a lot of CD titles too in the limited market it was in. The 3DO cost 3 times what the CD32 did - how many people did you know could afford one of those?
@horrormann7425
@horrormann7425 4 жыл бұрын
I actually don't know anyone who owned a 3do, cd32 or Jaguar back in the day. Says it all about the fait of these consoles. Playstation and saturn on the horizon.
@Harp00nX
@Harp00nX 4 жыл бұрын
The CD32 was not released in the US was it? it cost £270 (on launch) in the UK from the limited adverts I have checked. In those days $1 was £1 regardless of what the exchange rate was for shoppers.
@FinalBaton
@FinalBaton 4 жыл бұрын
CD32 got a release here in Canada though!
@mccrh7737
@mccrh7737 4 жыл бұрын
That is so cool :)
@error4159
@error4159 2 жыл бұрын
7:40 Lol, I got disc swappers wrist playing Monkey Island on my A500.
@TheJeremyHolloway
@TheJeremyHolloway 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about how many standard Amiga games have since been patched to use the multi-fire button Amiga CD32 controllers [both first party and licensed third party controllers; that Genesis/MegaDrive shaped gamepad looks sweet!]. I'd assume that would be done through WHD Load. That's my biggest pet peeve with the patching done with the Atari ST/STe/TT/Falcon030 scene... the majority aren't patching the games to use the ST Power Pad/JagPad/JagPad Pro Controllers. [although they are when porting the ST games over to the Jaguar]...
@cucho69
@cucho69 4 жыл бұрын
Commodore and Amiga must be return to the computer world
@TheGamingCircle
@TheGamingCircle 4 жыл бұрын
Dan The Man:-)) #Goals PS: The setup looks Sleek & Slick....
@jrvthatsme
@jrvthatsme 3 жыл бұрын
Just say if you were to put the motherboard from a CD 32 into one of the Amiga 1200 cases from a1200 . net, how powerful might it be upgradable to given the extra internal room and being a 32 bit machine?
@lukebenton8494
@lukebenton8494 4 жыл бұрын
got a link to the keyboard Dan? I couldn't find it on amazon
@TheSudsy
@TheSudsy 3 жыл бұрын
Why is the 030 50mhz only showing just 0ver 7 MIPS? it is pretty standard high 8's and just over 9 usually? Is it a CD32 thing or a compromise the TF had to make? Just curious.
@Perseid
@Perseid 4 жыл бұрын
How does this setup deal with PAL/NTSC issues? I have a North American CD32 and most games are PAL. Does WHDLoad compensate for that?
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 4 жыл бұрын
Nice expansion for CD32 ... Until Vampire 1200 gets adopted :)
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 4 жыл бұрын
@Dalle Smalhals Help I, not familiar with star citizens. Hard to get toy from Bosnia, but worthy
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 4 жыл бұрын
@Dalle Smalhals civ in space like e.g. masters of Orion, k240? Is it in "development hell" also known as vaporware?
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 4 жыл бұрын
@Dalle Smalhals Surely, I have few made in Last decade, for Amiga one and Strong classics. Frontier class. Will look at it, imperial courier, thank you
@ridiculous_gaming
@ridiculous_gaming 3 жыл бұрын
I love all my Amiga's, but the Terrible Fire card in a CD32 make things far more convenient while also taking up very little realestate. I agree I would not play Doom with a 68030, but I rather play gloom or Alien Breed 3D anyway, for I use an Amiga to play Amiga games, not PC titles. Besides, 68030 CPU's are still affordable, while legitimate 68060 cpu's are far too expensive these days and besides as you have mentioned and everyone else, 68030 cpu's provide some umph while being quite compatible still. I scored 2 brand new CD32's from China in 2008. I suppose a bunch of units were stumbled upon in an old warehouse? They sold out via Ebay very quick. I feel fortunate to having purchased two, but I still love to hear my Amiga 1000 boot up!
@pye8man
@pye8man 4 жыл бұрын
I need something like this when I get time to setup, have SX1 and 2 CD32's, 1 with FMV card, I may have to get this, not sure my SX1 still working.
@rodrigosaez9999
@rodrigosaez9999 3 жыл бұрын
What could not work on the sx-1?
@pye8man
@pye8man 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigosaez9999 I may have fried something on the IDE port. early 2000s before ebay has all adapters you can get now. I used a 3.5 hard disk in a modified lid, the 2.5 to 3.5 adapter cable fried when I set it up again. I forget that the power adapter plug was to power the 2.5 drives, and I put power to it, damaged the hard drive and smoke came from sx1, I pulled plug as quick as possible. When last used it would still work with the 3 floppy drives but never got round to buying another hard drive. Got to recap CD32's now first.
@BollingHolt
@BollingHolt 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this setup would change the AVGN's opinion of the CD 32 ;)
@xubidoo4415
@xubidoo4415 4 жыл бұрын
He was just out to ridicule the system anyway, He even picked some of the worst cd32 games to showcase, was many better ones he couldve chosen.
@crumplezone1
@crumplezone1 4 жыл бұрын
@KMSMista Dan`s channel small ? lol, you obviously do not know the retro scene that well my friend :)
@TheJeremyHolloway
@TheJeremyHolloway 4 жыл бұрын
@KMSMista Pffff. AVGN went lightly on the CDTV and the Amiga CD32 compared to what he's done to the Atari 5200 and the Atari Jaguar/JagCD...
@georgieboysaxe3022
@georgieboysaxe3022 3 жыл бұрын
So will this expansion work ok on the NTSC version of the Amiga CD32?
@kevgardner3064
@kevgardner3064 4 жыл бұрын
just remeber there are 2 versions PAL and NTSC being in USA I was lucky to get 1 that was NTSC back in '93 due to the only store in ohio that sold amiga stuff Compuquick Media Center they came from Canada too bad i sold it at 18 to buy a car i had SX-1 500mb harddrive and 8mb ram back then eventually ill get a NTSC ver again
@TransCanadaPhil
@TransCanadaPhil 4 жыл бұрын
kev gardner yup, I'm from Canada, and despite lots of comments to the contrary, the NTSC version of the CD32 was readily available here in Canada unlike in the US. I distinctly remember seeing it in local shops around here in Winnipeg back in 1994.
@rs2klee
@rs2klee 4 жыл бұрын
so would it be possible to take an old ps2 keyboard apart for the controller and wire up a button to put on the cd32 for the F key to get back into the menu rather than have a whole keyboard that is hardly used! or even a couple buttons that are mainly used.
@danwood_uk
@danwood_uk 4 жыл бұрын
I can't see why not! Good idea.
@Franksey180
@Franksey180 4 жыл бұрын
Amiga Experts... I'm sure a forum or Facebook group might be a better place to ask this, but any way here goes.. I have a boxed A1200 that I've owned from new, currently in storage. Back in the day I fitted a 3.5" hard drive in it and ran the current workbench of the day. It has a Blizzard A1230 accelerator installed in it. What would you guys do with a machine like that these days (providing it still works!). Run it as is? Rip out the HDD and install a CF drive in it? Any other suggestions? Install a newer workbench? Or move away from the Bilzzard A1230 and install something else? Suggestions appreciated, I'm totally out of touch with current hardware/software. Pretty sure WHDLoad was developed or massively improved after I'd put my Amiga in storage.
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