The Ultimate Beasts of Bermuda Tier List

[@Jakooky.]

Also I would love to hear any feedback you guys might have! I cannot stress enough though, all dinos can be good if used by good players so dont use this completely as a choice guide. Honestly kinda works as a run-down for every playable.

[@RavenousCrusader]

27:41 I was the og aqua rex player playing speed combat for a long time cause I would use water to sneak up on people on ap. To be fair tho the talents back then also made both play styles more viable with survival giving you talents for end game (Metabolism which slowed down your food and whatever the water equivalent was back then) and combat having HP, healing and strong bones.

[@Jakooky.]

Yea, having con heal and bones in with combat tree was kinda insane. Also alot later i remember being so happy when they nerfed inherits because clans' god nested megalosauruses werent as strong.

[@SauropodMain]

I would definitely place Apato higher right behind Bronto if not a tier lower than it. I don't know what happened but 90% of people playing Apa are playing it so badly with zero idea how to actually fight. In a lot of the clips you show the Apas are trying to stomp.. why? Apa can quite literally turn in a circle and whip everything off it with zero problem. The whip cooldown is actually a good thing. You use your long animation to drag hit multiple things with whip by quickly turning your camera to catch everything in it. Most people don't know that but its been a thing since old Apa and its even stronger now than before. Also the Apa whip can reach its front side, meaning you do a turn into whip to catch stuff on both sides of your model... which is INSANE?? The only thing in the game that can bypass this is Megaraptor, which is honestly fair IMO. I do agree that Bronto is better- A much more adaptive version of Apa can can go more on the offense, a better time dealing with mid tiers, and is incredibly good at fighting in the water compared to Apa's horrid viability in the water. Bronto however can be worn down easily by Ex Bite and eventually run out of AP. Apa should not be running out of AP and doesn't care about its stamina bar. I think BoB has gotten a lot of new players that have only gotten to know Bronto and never Old Apa - my theory at least as to why most Apas play so bad. Ive fought much larger Brontos than my Apa on 02 and its not hard to win vs them at all. Apa also destroys Sai if the Apa is patient and times the whip - you can also whip above the Sai so they reflect and waste AP. There are so many tricks you can do to bait and harass Sais as an Apa. I feel like an old man chanting tales of old or some shit tbh. I swear Apa is amazing people just need to learn it and play it like a space holder with drag hits + good reactions instead of playing it like Bronto who likes to Kite people to death.

[@Jakooky.]

Ive been with apa from the old model to now and i just find it lacking right now. As i said any playable can be good if used by people who know how to use the dino but every time i run into one nowadays its usually easy kills. Even yesterday I had a 1.6-7 and a .08 pinned to a cliff face as a solo 0.9 acro. Apa is good for killing bronto but bronto can also typically just look the other way if they dont want to fight. Apa was much better in the oldergame when most things were slower and stat-scaling was much greater as it was near impossible to touch them as they got bigger. I just dont find it that much better than any of the other dinos in the game right now.

[@SauropodMain]

@Jakooky. I would argue the majority of the BoB community is just awful at video games, cause Apa is not a hard creature to play. Have you ever fought an Apa that turns in place basically spinning like a copter, unable to be touched with its whip held and curled to hit anything near its front and back and all sides cause of the drag hits? Have you ever seen an Apa milk the full value out of a pebble on the floor to pin you or keep you off its front? Have you ever seen an Apa drag hit from the rightside to catch you on the left, then instantly whipping again to double its DPS output? I would say all these things 99% of Apas don't do. But its these things and understanding how Apa plays that turns it into a raidboss able to fight off groups/mix-packs of 5-10+ people solo. It's very different compared to Bronto who just kites people. Also Apas need to stop using the stomp attack its a meme attack that lands if the enemy has no eyes and ears. Turst me when I say Apa is right behind Bronto it's just the community makes it look awful cause they have zero clue how to play it 🤣 The proof is literally in your clips, idk what the hell the Apas in those clips are doing except just roleplaying a free gore. Playing like that is fine, no one cares or should care on how you enjoy your time fighting/playing.. but basing Apa's viability on the way those people play is just not accurate at all they look so lost and clueless on what to do. I also just want to say a lot of people are just casual gamers who come home from work and get on something chill like say.. Apa and dont really focus much on the PvP side of things, which in turn can make Apa look horrid when those same players have to fight people. It doesnt attract the same audience of people like Mosa does.. and you know those players will SWEAT for kills, mastering everything they can to PVP with it.

[@wick_04]

To add to what Cris is saying, I don’t think I’ve ever seen an apa on 02 or any survival format since it’s reintroduction even attempt to drag whip or double whip, the first clip hunting apas you showed an apa with zero tws and zero eb trying to stomp a skinny acro, which you shouldn’t even bother trying with both talents maxed. People just don’t seem to understand how they’ve slightly reworked old apa, and just how different it is to play from bronto. If anything, the current iteration of apa is more viable on its own and in the official survival format then how it would’ve been on old model with its reworked whip, as it doesn’t need to get to a larger size anymore to reach its full potential and only really requires mastery of your whip and learning to control it fully. With this new whip you no longer need tws and eb to hold your own on apa out in the open, as you have enough range and coverage now to protect your front with whip.

[@Jakooky.]

I based it on what I typically see in-game and I have yet to be killed by an apato or really come across a good one in the officials since its re-release. Most players typically result in being pinned which could lead to starvation as it is gauntlet. I just dont find it very well suited for current official gauntlet. Im sure its much better on deep abyss given food drain isnt as bad and you have herding with everything On my original tier list I had apa much higher and many people argued with me on it so I did dedicated time to play it. (As the only time I really played apa was with old model or fighting against it in current gauntlet) And I did pretty ok but I didnt really get to finish most of my kills leaving me and the enemy(s) to heal and come back and just repeat the cycle until they got bored and left or until i eventually died to a grp of 4 acros. Also I would assume you come from a skilled apa point of view which ofcourse would want you to put it higher given you know how to play it. Also one thing, c tier doesnt mean its terrible as apato is just fine, I wont deny it is strong if played right (as is the same with all other dinos) I just find apa not as viable as the dinos above it on gauntlet. Also about bronto. I could justify bringing it to top of A tier given acro groups but thatd be the only reason. I will also say i did forget about drag-whip but dragwhip and double whip do sound like exploits so I would assume they could get you into to trouble with official mods maybe (?) also everyone that ive seen that does stand a chance usually has to rely on a cliff or rock or such

[@Lex-zq2yu]

I like how u took the other tier lost from a few days ago and improved it by a lot with a better vid

[@Lex-zq2yu]

Also paleo so op I took down 3.0 sai as 1.2 paleo on 02

[@Jakooky.]

@@Lex-zq2yu real and i just felt like i left too much out in the og

[@1998topornik]

In my opinion every creature in bob have some interesting niches. Elasmo is most likely the weakest currently because it has too low damage to kill most things but is probably the only aquatic that can threaten flyers in flight. They can jump super high and their long necks allows them to hit pteros even with some initial miss. The only thing I think is super op is snake due to lack reliable ways of dealing with venom and how much stuff this reptiles has.

[@Tapu_ma3]

You should make a tier list of what creatures need buffs/nerfs the most.

[@paprika8968]

13:18 I think ory got a buff where it’s food drain is reduced while underground? I could be wrong though

[@Jakooky.]

I did not know about this. I just checked in a test server and at 2.0 Ory drains 3/tick above lands and 1.5 below. I dont play too much ory so I guess I never noticed.

[@paprika8968]

@@Jakooky.okay good to know because I genuinely couldn’t remember if that buff existed or not 😂

[@hitavi4965]

Para isn't actually faster than wie, it's slower than rex. Para has base 850 speed, rex is 900, wie is 915 and megara is over 1000. So it doesn't just run wie down, but because of how close it is in speed and how much it weighs now after all the weight buffs it's gotten in the last few patches, even just a headbutt tail hit is enough to make it faster than wie, so it is kinda invincible to them if it knows how to play and isn't massively outsized.

[@Jakooky.]

Oh, ive always felt like i could catch weihs even without previous dmg and my current para has no swift inh

[@mushu2508]

Just my thoughts Raptor is B Krono is at least in the same tier as rex Elasmo is D, it needs to be so much bigger than any other aquatic to kill it or vastly out number what its fighting, plus you need perfect speed and stat inherits to do anything on it. Sai is at least bottom S trope is d tier or bottom c pt is top c at most ichthy is below b tier in its current state and is no where near A tier (lurdu is far better than ichthy so its fine where it is) no offence intended. i really didn't feel like watching an hour long tier list video but you've clearly put effort into it so i'll give you that. my comments are just based off of the screenshot a friend sent me of where you ranked the dinos. if you are able could you tell me generally how you came up with these rankings? (I.e gamemode, growth vs growth or just general playability)

[@Jakooky.]

Official server (mainly o2) survivabilty and ability to fight other dinos. I also play alot of solo so that definitely impacted it.

[@marcinkucharski4730]

Bermuda is very survival game All servers has revives on. 3000h in this game and but stopped 2 Yeats ago because this game Has become only chillout game.

[@Jakooky.]

Official server🤩🤩🤩

[@johnmathis952]

I’m trash at palaeophis is there combat tutorial floating around?

[@Jakooky.]

I havent seen one i guess my only tip would be heal after you get hit as snake is a little squishy

[@dagoodboy6424]

I feel like bob neefs more aquatics, flyiers, and semis. An ithyosaur would fit right in imo. Oh wait its an ai?

[@Jakooky.]

Lol they just need something with a dart counter. Also cant wait to see what they do with tapejara given its a berry eating bird

[@haydenbrade8563]

tbh putting coah at D with the fact that its does poorly when in a 1v2+ witch sounds kinda dumb cus rex and acro have the same problem and apa/bronto has the problem fighting whies and other mid sized carnivores due too them being able to jump too and hit its neck and coah deals alot of bleed not just high raw dmg yes its slower then rex and acro but when ur back is too a wall no packs of whies or ichthys and megas killing you and you take less dmg too the head so rex can't brute it out acro Does have more options on dealing with coah with roar and bleed but coahs not close to D tier personally i would put it in B+ or A-

[@Jakooky.]

I dont think you got the whole message, or really listened to well (not an insult just saying i adress your problems). But just incase. with bronto, it is easily able to defend itself pretty well wherever it is if it can manage its ap. Coah is only really great for killing rexes and carchs as it doesnt do enought damage to one-shot midtiers and typically cant run them down, especially if the mid has a group. It will typically just result in the mids beating the coah down over time. Also if anything the highest I can play this is maybe near bottom C tier, i dont see coah better in any light compared to most playables