The Ultimate Palworld Plagiarism/Creativity Tier list

[@CircleToonsLIVE]

and YES I'm aware other people have done this, but I recorded this A WHILE AGO when the idea was FRESH... so don't scream at me!!! just scream at me for my idiot opinions!!!!

[@maggie6152]

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[@Error-And-Ink-Sans]

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[@Total_Lock_Down]

Honestly ur previous video review games and stuff have been fair so I'm all for it

[@OnADock]

Good opinions tbh.

[@Total_Lock_Down]

@@OnADock I agree lol like how some are shoved around just becuade they look weird lol

[@darekpower]

I do find it funny that the hangyu situation changed so fast. When palworld was assumed to have made theirs second, it was stolen, but when it was proved that palworld had the design first, suddenly it was "just a big coincidence" instead of actually reversing the accusations and saying they stole from palworld... But if that old trailer didn't have the design there for 3 seconds, people would never believe palworld that it was "just a coincidence"

[@Rubbly]

was the other person making money from the design or something? Don't know if anyone needs to bandwagon and accuse them of much but you can pop off if you want

[@darekpower]

Copying is copying regardless if it makes cash right? That's what this situation is about. They was super fast to throw out the accusations, but then when they were proven to be second, it was an instant shift to "it's a coincidence". If it's an issue one way, why is it not an issue the other way? That's all I'm asking...

[@ToonedMinecraft]

I feel like many people have already deemed it "a ripoff" despite its unique combination of mechanics. I haven't seen all the Pals and there are definitely some that look VERY much like pokemon, but I think that in general it's hard to make a creature collector that is not at least slightly inspired by pokemon. There are other issues with the creators, but the copyright isn't a big deal to me here.

[@KnownAsKenji]

Pokemon copies itself all the time. Can you name all the bird pokemon that wield a plant as a weapon? There's a few. The fact is, chibi monsters have been done. There's only so many directions to go, whether it's Pokemon struggling to design #900-1000 or some other developer.

[@dominikmagnus]

@@darekpower As the saying goes "Be careful when you dig a grave for someone else. You might just fall in yourself"

[@fuzzydragon]

The Hangyu fakemon turned out to be made 2 years after the Palworld pal, so thats a call the cops in reverse.

[@angel_of_rust]

japanese indie devs are truly the most oppressed race

[@thefatass500]

The cops call you?

[@Foshling]

Lamball is S tier, simply because they are funny guys who make a funny noises when you KO them and roll down hills at sonic speeds

[@fel524]

how dare you kill a lamball you sicko!

[@darkner2390]

Sparkit: *Has a Raichu tail* Circle: *Calls it a Pikachu tail* Everyone scramble into the bunkers. The "Um, akshually" guys are coming!

[@happypasta6]

Well the Editor did put Raichu there at least.

[@rellikx7519]

Mixing legality with a chart for preference is hilarious. Imagine your lawyer being like " your honor, my client may have killed his mother... but honestly look at this dudes fit! It is straight up on point, I think we can lower the sentence.

[@LettuceGayming]

Reminds me of a conversation I had with some friends about Joseph Stalin and how is eternal punishment would be reduced because he had a FANTASTIC mustache

[@shrimpchris6580]

Yeah, that mix made this video really weird but honestly also pretty entertaining

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

That kinda happened in ancient Greece. A woman argued she was too beautiful to be capable of doing evil. Iirc she was freed.

[@musicsheep9816]

Eikthyrdeer and Xerneas are both based on a specific deer in Norse mythology. It just looks like that.

[@Rat_Fบcker]

Yeah i play valheim and the deer boss wich is also base off Eithyr look exactly like this it just the design of the Eithyr in general

[@Angel_Kinzoku]

Same with Fengelope and Cobalion, they are based on the same mythological figure

[@F1nR4k]

I think Chillet not being S tier is the biggest offense here.

[@tonybippitykaye]

I ride my noodle buddy everywhere and he always has cute calls. This is such sacrilege to have him less than S

[@mangomonngo]

All we are is given to Chillet. Almost lost my subscription because of this blunder! 😜

[@Zackreaver]

He isn't just adorable, he's also the only pal that gives you a dragon type attack. Rocket launcher against the final boss on a chillet hits like a truck

[@mangomonngo]

@@Zackreaver Though I share your love of Chillet. It isn’t the only pal to give you Dragon attack damage. So does Quivern

[@VencentCross]

in the case of the fakemon look alikes, i think its almost unfair to ask them to avoid looking like ALL the fakemon that exist. there are just TOO MANY and they can be so obscure, its would be impossible to check your design against ALL the fakemon that are out there and so i can see how it happens.

[@johnnyhall9154]

THANK YOU! The arrogance of assuming a company across the world stole your specific design in a niche part of the internet is insane

[@VencentCross]

@@johnnyhall9154 i wouldnt go as far as to say insane, more so that its just unlikely. Occam's Razor can be applied here to ask, is it more likely that they stole the design or simply that 2 artists who were both influenced by pokemon came to very similar conclusions when making a new monster?

[@Gamer_G33k]

@@VencentCross I mean, I have drawings of a Fakemon I made in middle school of a rabbit that uses its claw like ears to dig. Years before Diggersby came out. So yeah.

[@la8ball]

That's what I've been saying. Pokemon copied all animals and objects. Most are just haters because Palworld is so big and a bunch of stuff they wish pokemon was. Open world, pals help around the base, no turn battle, ppl can gang up on 1 palmon and open season on who throws their sphere first, and much more. Pokemon followed the same stale formula since 90s with a few gimmicks added. If pokemon would of did this, then Palworld wouldn't exist or barely be noticable.

[@VencentCross]

@@la8ball really i actually like Legends Arceus more, myself but then game freak never iterated on that game and instead made 2 lacking remakes and another by the numbers mainline sequel and im just sick to death of those. generally if i want good classic pokemon games, i'll play a fangame or romhack like Uranium or Unbound or Bushido!

[@ViolacTrough]

I can’t tell if Depresso being put in 'UHHHHHH' tier is a scandalous injustice or exactly where Depresso would personally place itself.

[@handson4580]

He wants to be there its ok

[@angel_of_rust]

that's just the sound he makes

[@EeveetoUmbreon25]

28:18 i really dont see anubis and lucario. If youre designing a character off of anubis, they are gonna have a dog head and human body. Thats just how Anubis works. Both lucario and this Anubis are based off of the same dude. However, their colour palettes are completely different, lucario has dog paws and anubis straight up has human hands and feet. Anubis is definitely in the fine tier. But Uhhhh at the lowest.

[@bensteinhauser784]

Many designs for pokémon and Palworld creatures are just normal animal with one weird trait and anime eyes.

[@crowqueenamps]

To be fair, that is Pokemon's design philosophy. "Animal + Fantastical Feature + Some Humanization = Pokemon" is basically Game Freak's bread and butter. And it works. It makes the designs simple but identifiable. I think that's why people dislike the heavier human elements on things like the starters or the over complexities of the Ultra Beasts. Those designs are not bad, but they don't feel like Pokemon.

[@Luka-qp7uc]

​@crowqueenamps sure myb, but you can't cancel something bc it feels weird or like something else... people these days became so easily offended and i think pokemon staff knows that ass well (okey besides the obvious rip-offs)

[@crowqueenamps]

@@Luka-qp7uc Oh, trust me that when the discourse first came up I let out an audible groan. While I personally don't care for Palworld (I never got into Ark or similar games), I also can't call it a rip-off for the most part. Do I wish the creature designs were a little more creative? Yes. But the gameplay is fundamentally different from Pokemon other than creature capture mechanics...which is a genre. Creature capturing is a genre, not something Game Freak owns.

[@Luka-qp7uc]

@@crowqueenamps totally agree

[@mrhalfsaid1389]

​@crowqueenamps most Pokémon as of recent don't feel like Pokémon because they ignore one of the two design principles of Pokémon, being that they should be simple enough to be recognizable if drawn by a three year old, most of the recent Pokémon have designs that would be hard for anyone to draw because of the unnecessary amount of detail put into them, why do you think they only added six new Pokémon per dlc? Because they were so overdesigned that they were the only ones that were deemed acceptable to the standards which are being pushed far too much

[@mikaruyami]

Wixen and Katress are suppose to be based on Merlin and Morgana. As their deck entries state that they fight with each other everytime they meet.

[@mathewpoole3589]

The thing i love the most about the plagiarism accusations, is how many Pokemon fans ignorantly believe that Pokemon is original content. If they're not based upon real-life creatures or folklore, then the Pokemon are a lot like creatures seen in other cartoons and games.

[@johnnyhall9154]

Wait til they see the original sprites compared to Dragon Quest

[@ellog100]

​@@johnnyhall9154I looked at them, the pokemon designs are very distinct from their Dragon Quest "counterparts"

[@RandomPerson-ck1ve]

You forgot my favorite pal… WANDERING MERCHANT

[@julianlowrise4981]

Wandering Merchants pretty up there, but have you caught a Mercenary with a Wounded Knee yet?

[@mangomonngo]

I got OG Merchant, Ammo Merchant, and Pal Drops Merchant Pals! (Renamed) how about you?! Haha Can’t forget about our Pal Trader Pal and Slave Merchant Pal. Definitely a Dark type

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodNoob]

Honestly, in the "CALL THE COPS" tier, I only see 4-5 of them that could be considered "plagiarism", the rest are either based on the same concept (Like Anubis) or they just have the same color pattern Great tier nontheless

[@malekith13]

Indeed, like cattress in "call the cops" ? why ? Oo Or the " caballion clone "... the only comparison between the two is the colors and beeing fourlegged animals with horns... the whole body is really different. Anubis is based on... anubis... just like lucario... It's funny people often says that robinquill is based on gallade since it have the blaziken legs ^^ And wixen is our regular fox wizard^^ In "call the cops" i think i'd only see cremis, verdash and the water pal and all of them have more changes than people would admit, like with verdash they changed : -It's face -It's hair -the collar thing -It's tail -It's ears

[@The-EJ-Factor]

10:07 that fake-mob was made after the trailer that showed hangu so it’s pure coincidence.

[@Dumb-Comment]

Or it was the other way round 😂

[@DifunctedReble]

@@Dumb-Comment Really living up to your name aren't you.

[@ivebenwatching]

27:56 Fun fact : Lucario is actually based on the egyptian God anubis

[@notmyrealname7163]

I can't believe Palworld stole from Pokemon, who stole from Egypt.

[@charliemacsart]

To be fair, there's a million ways to depict Anubis that doesn't look like Lucario. Pal Anubis has a similar face and body structure, he's clearly meant to be the Pal equivalent of Lucario. Not a 100% copy like some others but still clearly "inspired" by Pokemon.

[@ralcogaming7674]

​@@charliemacsartthere's literally paintings of the god. Palworlds is closer to those depictions than Lucario

[@jffrysith4365]

@@ralcogaming7674 yes, but the question is moreso whether anubis is more similar to lucario than the pictures (with creative freedom). because you could take lucario and barely make it look closer to the original design and it would still be stolen from pokemon. (Personally I agree with you though, it's really just a walking dog-guy)

[@ralcogaming7674]

@@jffrysith4365 while that's true for the most part I think they're different enough there's no chance. Alot of people are forgetting you can copyright part of a design like this.

[@soldierhobbes1182]

Circle: "Anubis is just Lucario" Bruh, Lucario was based off Anubis. Like Ancient Egypt Anubis. Palworld just said, "To hell with subtlety, we're putting the Egyptian god of the underworld in the game."

[@charliemacsart]

To be fair, there's a million ways to depict Anubis that doesn't look like Lucario. Pal Anubis has a similar face and body structure, he's clearly meant to be the Pal equivalent of Lucario. Not a 100% copy like some others but still clearly "inspired" by Pokemon.

[@MintJammer]

why is it proportioned like lucario tho? Anubis is mostly a normal human with a animal head like many Egyptian gods, the body type is very specific to lucario only.

[@soldierhobbes1182]

@@MintJammer lucario had human hands? And yeah, Palworld Anubis is a person with a dog head.

[@soldierhobbes1182]

@@charliemacsart oh you’re absolutely right. But it’s not lawsuit material that circle thinks it is. I’ve seen more blatant Lucario rips. Some mobile game ad had a poster of a hero named Lucas. He was a blue, black and gold anthro dog who fought hand to hand… Actually was just lucario but with more muscle.

[@charliemacsart]

@@soldierhobbes1182 Oh definitely but I think Circle is just joking around. Like he knows it’s a ripoff but he isn’t giving serious legal decisions hahah

[@Olm-]

heads up the mesh post you referenced the poster came out and admitted he resized lots of individual parts of the meshes to make them seem more similar

[@johnedwards4313]

He didnt say he resized parts of the mesh. He said he scaled the entire model down so its easier to compare

[@Olm-]

@@johnedwards4313 no he said he scaled down individual parts of certain meshes like with the two wolves/dogs and left other parts the same size so they “could be more easily compared” but really what that did is make them all seem way more similar than they actually were

[@kiljadaen]

@@Olm- Didn't he also admit that the only reason that he did this in the first place was cause he didn't like how cruely Pals were shown being treated?

[@ralcogaming7674]

​@@kiljadaenyupp. And then when someone said "yeah but pokemon does that too" his response was "oh yeah I think that's bad too" yet doesn't put any energy into combating pokemon the way he did Palworld

[@fury72888hshu]

@@Olm- the guys that provide the model compare (@byofrog) literally said they only scale uniformly, stop spreading misinformation.

[@alchemi802]

In the case of the model comparison. It should be well known at this point, the guy that did them faked it. He upscaled and stretched out the pals to make them fit. He did this because he didn't like the "animal cruelty" that was in the game. Yea, he has admitted to doing this.

[@nechocat1234]

While it's true that doesn't mean that it's a bad practice to upscale models when comparing them, if things like that aren't done you can't really compare them becase one model will probably be insede the other , stretching is somewhat needed sometimes too but that is a case to case basis

[@alchemi802]

@@nechocat1234 It still stands that his argument of upscaling was made entirely in bad faith, and proven to be false accusations. Even without that, you'd end up with the same results with any animal. Match two creatures based off wolves and overlap them you will always have a similar overlap. Same with lions, and birds, and well anything.

[@nechocat1234]

@@alchemi802 that is completly false, while some parts of the body will be similar for ir to be recognize as that animal I can assure you that garurumon, lycanrock and worgs are different even odogaron and lunagaron are really different and they are from se same franchise, saying that creatures based in animals will be the same is an insult to the creative process

[@fury72888hshu]

@@alchemi802 How you compare if the scale not even the same with each other?

[@pinkpupbutt9299]

Yeah no him doing it in bad faith just because of the "animal cruelty" in a video game about fake animals in a world with established slavery, public torture, etc. Is pretty bad. But that doesn't stop the fact the Palworld team definitely ripped the model of the pokemons hair, scaled it down/up and slapped it on their own model. It was stolen and even with the fact this guy found this, to only speak about it to bring down others, it's still stolen art. It's minor theft but, theft nonetheless.

[@Prototype_46058]

Some Pokemon are so generic in appearance, it seems unfair to say that no one can use certain animals for anything in a creature collector.

[@ranzu3138]

Is that what people are complaining about tho? I've seen no people actually saying that. You would agree Pals do look like they're from pokemon, no? Genuinely curious.

[@MrMariosonicman]

@@ranzu3138 I've seen some make that arguement for chillet being to simmilar to furret, dispite furret just being a ferret.

[@ranzu3138]

@@MrMariosonicman yeah, I think that's stupid.

[@ranzu3138]

@@MrMariosonicman do you think Pals look like Pokemons tho?

[@MrMariosonicman]

@@ranzu3138 only the gigantamax eevee.

[@Kye9842]

Ponyta being compared to the deer Pal while Circle saying the Pal doesn't look like a deer so it's not similar to Ponyta and Ponyta being a... Pony 💀. sorry that exchange was funny for me

[@zergling50]

Yeah I have no idea what he was on about lol. Ponyta isn’t a deer.

[@cameronnisbet3896]

I honestly thought I was losing my mind during that part...

[@joshuareynolds23]

​@@zergling50it's literally in the name PONYta it really messed me up to the point that i actually had to rewind because i thought i was tripping.

[@Spyro0w0]

No idea how the idea of deer with big antlers is a design that belongs to pokemon now.

[@Rat_Fบcker]

Well we have to sue Odin now bot even the all father is safe from nintendo

[@Andyxws]

Honestly is crazy how its in early access but still works better than scarlet and violet

[@Rat_Fบcker]

Idk maybe gamefreak need to start using actual engine over what ever the fk they currently using

[@KingDugan]

I feel like the problem is that any Pal based on an animal/myth is going to be compared to pokemon based on the same thing, and since there are over 1000 pokemon, there will be overlap. Like he was saying about Lamball, you can't really make a sheep-based creature that doesn't resemble the Wooloo or Mareep families.

[@NekoNekonoTabiTabi]

21:28: I mean it's a fox wizard that is mainly using fire not really surprising to find a similar art laying around Hangyu was already conceptualize way before the artist made the art similar to hangyu😅

[@VencentCross]

"He's not a Ponyta cause he isn't a deer, SEE" right cause PONYta is a deer... what?

[@shottytheshotgun]

The realization that penking is supposed to evolve from fuack and not pengullet…

[@nezrafallon4086]

I think Penking is actually a platypus, despite it's name. It's got that platy tail

[@MetronaJ]

as someone who is a major fan of sea serpent designs jormuntide looks nothing like most sea serpents ive seen the closest thing you could say is that it has a segmented body like gyarados but even that's a stretch others will point out the whisker looking things which i will bring up is a very common design choice for sea serpents

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

The Hangyu one got debunked since Hangyu was shown in an old trailer long before that artist drew the 'copycat'.

[@Rusty_Spy]

Pengking is what Quaxly should've evolved into. Fight me

[@Sonichero151]

So a second starter to evolve into a pengiun..... *How uncreative and recycled*

[@ConsarnitTokkori]

tbf there have been 2 crocodiles, 2 monkeys, 2 cats, 2 turtles, and 2 blaziken

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

@@Sonichero151Ironically enough, Penking is not a penguin but a weird looking duck, it’s not related to Pengullet and it’s more in line with another Pal named Fuack (this game is wild)

[@stormSeven]

I think Quaxly’s final evo and Penking would be boyfriends

[@v5hr1ke]

Well, you don't count Fakemon as a part of a criterion where the legality matters- they are derivative of Pokemon. Pals and Fakemon don't have much things to worry for plagiarism/infringement.

[@shipool]

...You most certainly do. Something being 'fakemon', doesn't suddenly make it public domain. "Fakemon" is just a fan term, not a legal classification.. The artist still owns a copyright on it, unless it's literally "What if pink piplup!?"

[@dinosaurkin5093]

So Pokemon owns any reference to Mythology.

[@wumpusrat]

As others have pointed out before, Mau is actually based on Egyptian cats, particularly their funerary cats and statuary. They're always depicted as wearing jewelry and such, and the fact that Mau generates gold for you while in the farm is based on that.

[@regitriotrio5656]

It's been a treat watching my friend playing Palworld and just having fun comparing them to actual pokemon. It's never serious (okay well maybe some are a little spot on) but it's for fun. We just mess around. Chad Gumoss my goat.

[@--T3NN0--]

11:00 that's just a deer lmao. Pokemon didn't invent deers

[@sm3ghe4d22]

I really don't understand the Anubis and Lucario comparison the only similar thing is that there both canine humanoids other then they they hav different shape,color, and design

[@Rat_Fบcker]

I mean both of them were base on anubis and unlike alot of mythology where the look of some being are only describe through text anubis have a picture so ofcourse it's in the same general shape

[@sm3ghe4d22]

@@Rat_Fบcker Oh wow didn't even know Lucario was based on Anubis cuz they really don't have much of a egyption style to him like Pals version does.

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

@@sm3ghe4d22I gotta be honest, I have never seen anyone compare Lucario to Anubis(god) before all of this Palworld thing happened, it just looked like a dog/jackal, suddenly PalAnubis exists and people are like “B-But Lucario is based on Anubis, plagiarism!” when as you said, there’s nothing Egyptian about Lucario besides being a jackal

[@sm3ghe4d22]

@@bonelesschickennuggets1868 Yah ikr like is there like any confirmation by the creators of Lucario saying that was there inspiration? Btw whats funny is one guy said one of the reasons anubis is a rip is because they both have a blue aura xD Like I don't even know if Anubis has one but even if he did Blue glowing aura's are not that unique in animes.....

[@johnpett1955]

24:34 Pokémon doesn't own the concept of tridents which is where that head decal comes from. Those weapons have been conceptualised since ancient times.

[@znabthe918]

Problem with pokemon is they are sometimes based on animals. And you can't really make a sheep or a fox look to crazy different

[@ArchvileEnthusiast]

The KINGPACA Mafia will remember this.

[@awesomegamer2430]

24:50 so you're saying that the giant alpaca looks more like Empoleon then the Royal penguin?

[@DifunctedReble]

28:05 "obviously supposed to evolve from mau" A cat evolving into a dog... the only thing in common is the Egyptian motif. Some of these you must have smoked a bad batch beforehand.

[@justarandombluebird8222]

1:39 let's all pray for our all mighty saviour chikpie

[@turtlenator6249]

Digtoise is definitely my personal favorite. Already a sucker for any turtle monster, the Blastoise and Bowser comparison just adds to it for me. Hope we get a frog Pal in the future.

[@Lubey117]

No one gunna talk about the fact that pokemon isn't all that original either back with Dragon Quest, and also the fact that most of these are also based on animals, which are not intellectual property. Lol

[@Rusty_Spy]

No

[@user-kt4gl3kv1e]

At least pokemon look different than dragon quest. Before palworld no one was comparing Pokemon to dragon quest. It's just a weak argument for people who think palworld isn't going to get sued out of existence

[@kiljadaen]

@@user-kt4gl3kv1e Then why haven't they sued yet? Since you sound so confident that this will happen.

[@user-kt4gl3kv1e]

@@kiljadaen if I knew I would tell you In a heartbeat. But my crack theory is that the lawyer team is dead. My real theory is that this feud will end up getting gamefreak more money, and if it doesn't, or it eventually stops then they will sue. At the end of the day video games is a business same as any other.

[@johnnyhall9154]

@@user-kt4gl3kv1e Obviously haven't seen the og sprites compared to dragon quest sprites

[@nicholascompton2115]

17:50 Mewtwo is stretching, and Echo is the Space Robot Girl aesthetic that been around for a little while now. I think it started with EVE from WALL•E. 19:10 Huh, it's almost as if the names of Blastoise and Digtoise come from THE SAME WORD. TORTOISE. 24:45 EMPOLEON DOES NOT OWN TRIDENTS. TAKE IT UP WITH POSEIDON OR SATAN OR SOMETHING. 26:25 There's based on the same mythological creature, but it definitely could of had a different color scheme. 27:52 OH MY GOD, ANUBIS AND LUCARIO DON'T LOOK ALIKE AT ALL. What do you mean evolve from Mau? ANCIENT EGYPT HAD CATS *AND* DOGS. 30:15 Palkia and Dialga? What are you taking about. PALADIUS AND NECROMUS ARE CENTAURS IN ARMOR! 30:52 "His feets" ... I... Are you high? 😵‍💫 No, seriously, my freaking brain broke for a few seconds. And literally none of the Fakemon Copying accusations work - first two came out in traielrs before the fakemon were made. I've got no idea where the third one vomes from, but it's just the same idea as Delphox. And you just put Katress there to be funny, dude.

[@stormSeven]

I think it’s funny when Pokemon stans forget that animals exist in real life. Like they’re based off the same thing there’s only so many ways you can make a sheep look unique while still a sheep. I love how Palworld dares to make pals that don’t really look like anything immediately. Like Rooby, it’s a Rooby, not specifically an animal.

[@anubis7457]

Hangyuu’s controversy turning out to be a coincidence is testament to the fact that most good ideas already exist in some form. If you have a “good idea” someone has probably already thought of it before. The artist saying “THIS time it’s a coincidence” is a little annoying though. Can’t even fully admit to a mistake. Chasing “complete originality” is as impossible as it is ridiculous. But yeah the Mega-Eevee is bad.

[@Rat_Fบcker]

Fenlope is done dirty here it base off a chinese mythical beast and it literally base off different animal than a pokemon one

[@lightmaker5648]

As a game dev myself I really do not care about how inspired the designs are. I don't get why people are making such a big deal of it. See a good design, put your own spin on it, that's how 90% of things are made. I love Braixen, I love Wixen. I love Goodra, I love Dinossom. People trying to go all detective mode with the models and stuff have gotta chill. Game is fun, enjoy it for what it is.

[@christiancinnabars1402]

People care because copyright laws exist. I myself don't think The Pokemon Company will file any lawsuit against Pocketpair for the designs they have right now, but some of them do get dangerously close to dragging them into Nintendo's C&D shredder.

[@lightmaker5648]

@@christiancinnabars1402 People need to stop doing Nintendo/Pokemon's job for them I think. What people have been doing is equivalent to the kid in school who'd snitch on you for the simplest things. People need to chill, enjoy a game for what it is, and let companies deal with stuff like this themselves. Pokemon doesn't need you to point out any similarities for them.

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@lightmaker5648 You gotta remember though, Pokemon is an entire personality to some. So Palworld, given it's success, can be seen as an attack to their character. Especially when the Pal designs are legit better that their pkmn counter part. I'd choose Verdash over Cinderace.

[@lightmaker5648]

@@D3adCl0wn True. I grew up playing pokemon myself, Gen 3 was my first gen. I love the games but I'm not gonna go feral on any other game that 'encroaches on pokemon's territory' or whatever. Game is fun, enjoy it. Least we got people like you who aren't going mental over it.

[@shammersanonymous]

Bro, the ice path theme always slaps. Good ost choices.

[@rafario448]

19:08 "just because his name is Dugtoise and huh Blastoise exist" Tortoise is an animal commooooon

[@LittleGayDragon]

Yeah that killed me, also when he called chillet a salamander even though it's a ferret at 16:05

[@Sonichero151]

Dreadnaw: *I'M RIGHT FUCKING HERE*

[@Rat_Fบcker]

Time to sue galapagos island

[@KittyCatMeowMeowTime]

C'mon bro. You're parroting the models BS? The person who brought that to light later admitted that he fabricated all of it because he didn't like how PalWorld portrayed the treatment of animals. Question though, is Anubis based off of Lucario or is Lucario based off of Anubis the Egyptian god?

[@kiljadaen]

Obviously Anubis was based off of Lucario who was based of the superior mon....Renamon from Digimon. /s

[@avivaasultani3851]

​@@kiljadaenno anubis is based of anubis not lucario bruh

[@Rat_Fบcker]

​@@kiljadaenit's literally name anubis it's just cartoony anubis

[@kiljadaen]

@@Rat_Fบcker Tried to be sarcastic, apparently that did not work.

[@q-miiproductions878]

8:23 That person fabricated the evidence by editing the models to look similar. They didn’t like how Palworld was promoting animal cruelty… when they themselves are a pokémon fan.

[@kurotheumbreon7435]

Which pokemon is just a Rooster fight pit game for kids.

[@orions_quest]

Circle I absolutely love you stuff, BUT DUDE, comparing Digtoise to Blastoise? Inciniram to Inciniroar? EIKTHYRDEER TO XERNIUS??? I'm sorry man, but some of these claims are Reaching beyond the stratosphere.

[@shieldedtempest8786]

Few of these are absolutely reaching 100%. Also you can’t say Pokemon owns certain design features because they don’t.

[@KittyCatMeowMeowTime]

Pokemon owns general animal design. LOL! If its an animal its copyright infringement. Better get rid of your pets before Nintendo comes a knocking.

[@ranzu3138]

Pokemon doesn't own design features, no one does. They are however entitled to their art style even if not legally, which Pals are clearly plagiarizing.

[@KittyCatMeowMeowTime]

@@ranzu3138 "Clearly"

[@ranzu3138]

@@KittyCatMeowMeowTime yeah? Shape design, proportions, and the fact that everyone and their mom called it Pokemon with guns. They look like Pokemons, it's intentional. If not, what's different between Pokemons and Pals' art styles?

[@diedatplainsight8947]

​@@ranzu3138so pokemon owns cutesy art​style now?

[@Frostphorus-gg]

Oh snap is that Fools Blade in the background?

[@woopyboi]

23:37 Goodra body, Quagsire face and color scheme. h m m m m

[@Rat_Fบcker]

Cartoony dinosaur silly eyes and water color for water element creature Hmmmmm

[@StickMaster500]

If some of these weren't bad enough, there's actually a unused Pal that was found in the data of the game that is quite literally a dark Mega Mewtwo Y

[@Broomer52]

Which how so many of these pals are designed you’re not convincing me that AI wasn’t involved in the creative process. A lot of them are just Homunculus of established Pokémon.

[@charliemacsart]

@@Broomer52 The lead dev was tweeting about those early AI Pokemon generators back in 2021, right around when PalWorld started development, saying that the AI Pokemon looked like real Pokemon (which is funny cause image AI back in 2021 was awful lol). It's not concrete proof but it is a little suspect. They could've used the tool, picked a few outputs that were interesting, and refined them into a final design. That one water type Pal that has Ponyta's head and a generic seal body is the one that makes me think that the most.

[@ralcogaming7674]

​@charliemacsart that tweet wasn't about pokemon anything it was talking about the game they made using AI and how much fun they were having. You spread more misinformation than the onion.

[@charliemacsart]

@@ralcogaming7674 the tweet where he posted a picture of AI generated Pokémon next to real Pokémon and compared the two wasn’t about Pokémon? The tweet is from 2021, long before their AI Art Imposter game. You clearly don’t know what tweet I’m referring to and unfortunately KZbin doesn’t like links so you’ll have to look it up.

[@ralcogaming7674]

@@charliemacsart I haven't seen that one no, regardless the use of AI has to be disclosed on steam furthermore did they use AI or did they steal designs both can't be true.

[@dominikmagnus]

I fell like seeing as everyone who attempts this tier-list disagrees on 95% of pals, which category they're in - these pals are all fine. But bottom tier is somewhat universally accepted as a problem and I kinda agree, though reluctantly so.

[@Dumb-Comment]

Pokémon shouldn't have a monopoly on an art style, to be honest, there are indeed some of the pals that are too close to their pokemon counterparts. But I'm glad they put Anubis in

[@doctorcorvus1319]

At least with the Pals, you can actually do stuff with them in and out of battle, Pokémon is just battle and walk with you… and that’s it. Even if some of these are *stolen*, still better than most recent Pokémon games.

[@Sonichero151]

What exactly do you do with the pals? Like with pokemon you can also have a picnic with them, make a sandwich, play with toys, wash em...... and the pals..... is.... slave labor?

[@doctorcorvus1319]

Ride them anywhere, actively help you in the base and can be assisted to do various, the special abilities and Pal Skills that Pals can do. And their only slaves if you treat them like that

[@alaricpaley6865]

@@Sonichero151 I just threw a pizza party for my pals, made them hot springs and upgraded their beds. Gave them pets for their hard work. I have 60 of them out and about, and the ones that aren't great in combat are usually gardening, farming or cooking - it's actually easier to just sell stuff to buy ammo, etc, so I barely have them doing any assembly tasks. I built a small town on top of a mountain for them. What have you done with the dozens of pokemon you have shoved in a pc box? Wouldn't it be nice to have some sort of, I dunno, Secret Base or something where you could have a dozen or so pokemon doing something in a way that felt alive and interactive? Wouldn't it be nice to have a place where you could see more of your favourite lil creatures just living a mundane life, doing chores around the place, napping, etc? Something that feels rewarding for collecting more of the ones you like beyond just filling out a dex and filling boxes? That's something that Palworld actually gives.

[@Lyra_dragonal]

The real issue us that there are just so many Pokémon of every different animal and such, it hard to not have similarities.

[@zoketotsumall5552]

Seeing your face with various voices is wild to me cause it its not what I imagiend at all. ALso sylveon for the pink rabit is what you were thinking of

[@wutzgud1576]

Elkthyrdeer feels fine to me, it really only has the same magic deer feeling as xerneus but designe wise it’s pretty different Edit: dumud is farther from copied then people want to admit, I can agree with the sobble fin but the eyes aren’t originally slowpokes because it’s not like Pokémon came up with that design for eyes

[@ivebenwatching]

Just to let anyone know that the person that posted the meshes being similar has been outed for faking/forging the evidence And the reason for it was because palworld was promoting animal cruelty

[@Mid-iala]

WOAH, you have a face! Somehow, I never look directly at videos, I just listen. What a pleasant surprise. Also, Gobfin totally looks like Stitch to me. Calling it now at 10:53, Grintale's gotta be for the cops- Those ears were totally Skitty to me!

[@charliemacsart]

The face is 1:1 Galarian Meowth's, which is the worst part imo. The rest of the design is generic enough that it's not copying anything

[@alaricpaley6865]

What I think is the funniest part about that Pal is it's Catbus. Light up eyes and its a rideable mount.

[@sandwichanomaly6339]

I think people who do these tier lists should also learn a bit more on ancient mythology instead of just Pokémon or digimon as many of these pals and Pokémon are inspired by creatures from many ancient mythologies.

[@TekTheNinja]

Wait does circletoons somehow think ponyta is a deer because I'm confused on that part

[@electrobob992]

Thankfully Nintendo has already shown... They know about the game, but there is nothing they can do to stop it. No direct asset rips or design stealing. Sure the inspiration is there, but it's no different from what Pokemon took from Dragon Quest.

[@Rat_Fบcker]

And the next pokemon game will still be shit because fans will still buy it palworld did nothing to pokemon because pokemon were made to sell the console, card and collectible

[@notnormaljiji]

Considering Fakemon are fanarts of fake Pokemon, I argue the Wixen and Katress in that tier is weak. I cant even find the evidence of that Fakemon when googling them.

[@H0r53f7y]

Given your reaction to Orzerk I'm guessing you also wouldn't recognize the piano theme of a very specific league champion

[@malpheus4299]

Exactly, orserk is definitely the garchomp of palworld. Not as scary since electric types get pretty bad moves in palworld but still.

[@kizznethkizura6322]

the words "legally distinct" pulls a lot of weight in this game.

[@chaosXP3RT]

How so?

[@krissmith9814]

Because inspired by and infringing on are two totally different things. Lets be frank- palworld is 1000% basing their designs off pokemon. But legally they are distinct enough to not get sued into 2030 ​@chaosXP3RT

[@bonelesschickennuggets1868]

@@krissmith9814I’ll argue that Palworld is more likely based itself on the inspirations that Pokémon themselves took, like Dragon Quest, but yes it’s kinda hard not being inspired by the biggest monster capturing game in the market lol

[@greed94]

Eikthyrdeer is clearly inspired by Ancestor Spirit.

[@Rat_Fบcker]

Deer god

[@Alzhaer]

I'll defend palworld purely on the subject of every element plus animal is gonna look similar. Pokemon has 900+ and so many fall into the same traps and dullness, like most every fish pokemon is kinda bad and uninspired. Thought experiment for those unconvinced, you want an ice pokemon. What colours do you use? Blue, white and maybe black, can go brown if furry.

[@julianlowrise4981]

Maybe i'll use red to respresent the blood of its enemies becoming frozen to its body?

[@Rusty_Spy]

You'd be hard pressed to find a monster design from TemTem or Cassette Beasts that looks anything like Pokemon. Not to mention, ya know, _Digimon_

[@user-kt4gl3kv1e]

Jynx, sneasel, delibird, smoochum, snow cast form, snorunt, weavile,and frost rotom.

[@crustader3755]

Honestly pretty good list, most fair and least slanderous I’ve seen out of the youtuber lists for Palworld CircleToons! Could nitpick a lot of the choices since some are far leaps, but otherwise a fun list to see you go through!

[@fluffy8634]

Dinossom in call the cops imo. It's literally goodra but painted green. It shares every single one of goodra's primary characteristics, and only differentiates itself with an added flower

[@jffrysith4365]

but thats the point, it's missing so many of the things (the gooey design, etc.) and what you end out with when you remove these from goodra is literally a dragon body. Like that's the most free to use thing in existence. To the point where your first croche project could be dinossom without the flower.

[@fluffy8634]

@@jffrysith4365 if you think that goodra's 3 gooey bulbs are enough to make it legally distinct from dinossom, then by all means, keep believing it.

[@chadthedrunkard4941]

He really put black Lycanroc in C tier

[@clarehidalgo]

And Lycanroc looks like a Hare Hound from Monster Rancher

[@johnnyhall9154]

A lot of these, except 3 in call the cops, are reaching. A fox witch isn't the most unique idea and enough changes were made to make most of these unique. Just because a face or eyes look similar, calling it stealing is coping. Also Anubis is literally the God Anubis as a pal, you know from 5,000 years ago, and the only thing that truly is similar is the head, you know a Jackal like Anubis.

[@sofarsogood8680]

From my POV, maybe 3-4 pals totally like a rip-off from pokemon but other than those, they are mostly original, inspired from folklores like norse (e.i eikthyrdeer), japanese (kitsun) , real animals or dinosaur. Come on man, you are telling me a Grizzbolt is knock off from pikachu? How on earth a grizzly bear is the same as a mouse? I know when i see a bear, and i know when i see a mouse. Kalimari is inspired from a type of squid while tentacool is inspired from jellyfish, even not the same animal. Whereas Hangyu is literally a noose cause its entry say about public execution and even a child can guess the pun "hang you"( cause in-game you can use it as glider, and literally hanging from it). All of the design features like eyes, mouth line, teeth etc. are not exclusively or trademarked for pokemon either.

[@Just_a_commenter]

Naming their Latios/Latias knockoff Jetdragon was so on the nose if you ask me. _Let's take this dragon themed after fighter jets... And call it Jetdragon. Yes, that'll work._

[@SirTacoVr]

Yeah it’s kinda latios/latias + miraidon and it doesn’t even have jets lol, but like to be fair pokemon named a seal pokemon “seel” and a flamingo “flamigo”

[@bensteinhauser784]

Circle acting like he's not already committing tax fraud...

[@SkarletShadows]

Ponita is a pony and rooby is clearly a deer lmao. still not ponita tho

[@michapiasta3072]

Hangyus design was in palword before the guy accusing it did his design.

[@QuickGoldie]

12:18 thats a whiscash with a sobble fin and a different color scheme and a little bit of a weezing vibe

[@clayton217]

6:32 is that HGSS gym battle music

[@ColdEmperor]

I think you have too many in "call the cops". Anubis is designed after the Egyptian God Anubis. So is Lucario. Pokemon doesn't own Anubis or Egypt dude. Kattress is original. Pokemon doesnt own purple dresses or cats. Wixen is more sus but not "Call the cops" sus. Hangyu was disproven. The fakemon was drawn 2 years after Hangyu first appeared in Palworlds first trailer. Im split on Verdash and Robinquill. A bunny is a bunny. How different do you want it to look? Robinquill shares the color scheme of decidueye but thats not enough for "call the cops". Barely ok is more like it. Absolutely agree on Cremis, Azurobe, and Fenglope. These are the only ones who should be in "call the cops".

[@leaderteammimikyu3024]

it is true that Nintendo doesn't own the idea of an anubis. However, ideas and visuals are separated from determining the copyright visual character. The visuals that determine whether it is considered copyright are shape, color, line and silhouette. Anubis in mythology have a muscular normal human body. For lucario, it has a big hand, big leg, medium head, and small body. for anubis in palworld, it has the same proportion to lucario if not wearing a cloth. The designs that make anubis look different from lucario are the shape of the cloth, color, ears, silhouette, and the tail shape.

[@melissadavis453]

7:26 I just noticed the pal has the exact same eyes and main body color as Espurr.

[@malpheus4299]

Well blazehowl is literally just teostra from mh. It even has some similar animations

[@Rat_Fบcker]

Yeah i can see that but i do believe teostra itself is base off some chinese mythical beast

[@dantles]

so one of those ha that is a half an hour I will not get back

[@The-EJ-Factor]

8:31 nope there was another wolf thing and it’s not even in the game. It was in the trailer.

[@sm3ghe4d22]

I wouldve put celray a rank above cuz the only similarity between it and Mantine is that there both mantarays even tho Celaray could be a stingray I feel. They got completely different faces and also different patterns. The colors are pretty similar but still pretty different enough overall in my eyes.

[@MidwestArtMan]

Honestly, if all of these were introduced as Digimon, people would hardly complain. Anything above Barely OK would just be a Digimon.

[@nechocat1234]

They don't really look like digimon, digimon tends to have longer limbs or big feet and a some sort of scar or missing parts

[@7Exartive]

Anubis and katress looks very different compared to the pokemon they supposedly ripped off of. Its like wooloo and lamball case, it came from the same idea but they put their spin on it that it looks different enough.

[@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv]

The whole 3d model comparison thing was priven false and the original accuser and poster of which has admitted to doing such. Aside from that this was a fun tierlist.

[@MintJammer]

that 3d model comparison was "proven" false by them saying they had to adjust the proportions slightly and the wireframe was different. And the xbox and pc cult who never touched even playdo in their lives think that's remotely time consuming. I even saw a smear campaign that said Mario and Sonic fit together to say its silly, and... Sonic's way bigger?

[@sm3ghe4d22]

idk i dont really see aggron in warsect personally

[@techno952]

Shamin, phanpy, gogoat, scrafty, salamance, grotle, there are more with a couple that just look like mixes of Pokémon but these were the main ones I saw (as someone who hasn’t played palworld) that were ranked higher than I thought they should be. Yes I put the pokemons name because I don’t know the pal names lol. Anyways feed the algorithm more lethal company and comics funny art man! (Also I’ve never mentioned it but I genuinely love your long form videos. Like when you talked about the amount of time videogames take. Keep up the good work boss man!)

[@UnknownTuber450]

8:21 for those who do not know the person who created those "evidence" lied about it and made a sorry not sorry post about it. For example with Luxray they were scalling the models to make them try and fit.

[@M12GProductions]

I almost disliked this video over Anubis. If anything, Lucario is Anubis because Anubis is ancient Egyptian myth.

[@julianlowrise4981]

I think its more that the anubis design and brawler fighting style is really similar to lucarios. The ancient egyptian god design should in my opinion have a sharper nose shape and could also be seen using a crook(?) or similar implements to differentiate fighting style. Maybe also give it a more prominent mane/plume.