What I found playing Venom is that he's an amazing character for capture point maps, but absolutely debilitating to play on payload maps. Way too often, what will end up happening is your backline getting completely screwed over by 1 high mobility damage dealer that you as Venom can't do literally anything about. If you choose to try and get rid of him (good luck with that btw, most of them will just dash away from your right click and since the left click hitbox is so small and percise you can't rely on it killing them before they run), you would be forsaking the payload chasing around 1 bug while the enemy team has plenty of time to group properly on the payload. If you choose to ignore and try to tank frontline like you're supposed to, you won't have enough damage dealers with you to ease that load, or your healer will be picked off and your sustain on the payload will not be very useful. Just for those frustrations, I found that learning a different tank who's damage is a lot more reliable like Thor, to be waaaayy more effective on payload maps. The difference is actually night and day
@thebigyes84829 күн бұрын
I don’t think that’s an issue with the character. As a main tank, his job is not to peel for your backline. Ideally you would have another tank or even a DPS who is more equipped to do that. But yeah you can’t always rely on that, in which case Venom won’t always be the best pick.
@bootmanrivals9 күн бұрын
He can definitely be tough on payloads. On offense, I'll typically try to dive in deep to disrupt them so my team can push the payload, i fall back, heal, and dive back in. On defense, I sort of do the same. When you're back there going after their healers, it's hard for them to keep pushing
@Wesasaurus-Rex9 күн бұрын
I kid you not I was just now noticing this. Was playing ranked games and any games I get venom and its capture point we absolutely roll, with me getting mvp and doing work. The moment payload maps occur something just clicks and we just get rinsed. Its been like 10x harder winning payload games than capture point games.
@empty_melodies9 күн бұрын
Fantastic guide. I’m happy you mentioned about perching up high on walls to ambush teams while saving your swing for an emergency getaways if need be.
@bootmanrivals9 күн бұрын
Venom bomb!
@IRDANIMAL4 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas Bootsie, here's a like and a sub from a fellow Venom fan from England. Keep up the great work
@gabe23g3 күн бұрын
Great video! I had no idea how to play him
@cecilmalcolmglaffosteele80129 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I'll wait for your next videos on other heroes
@WildYelectric7 күн бұрын
Great info, very clear, very useful. Merry Christmas 🎁
@boiledliddo6 күн бұрын
nice in depth guide. Thanks!
@laszlowlewis20246 күн бұрын
As a Venom main this is a really good video. Like you mentioned it is good to look to dive in with the wall crawl, and that's so you can use the websling to get out of situation where you might take more damage than anticipated. I actually use it more to escape unless the team is pushing and needs me to use the movement speed to get to an objective.
@dopaliscious31811 күн бұрын
Have you seen much counter play? Not as rock paper scissors as OW. But maybe something like if they have a venom wrecking your team try XYZ to keep him in check. (May be too early to figure that out yet). Also, Thor. I freaking suck when I try to pick him up.😅
@bootmanrivals11 күн бұрын
it's tough. I mention it in the weaknesses section of this vid, as a venom player, getting stunned is a big problem. or if the enemy team just focuses you whenever you come in, it's hard to get healed enough. you gotta leave before you can do much damage
@thebigyes84829 күн бұрын
Squirrel girl, Luna Snow and Mantis can cause problems for Venom by stunning him after he has popped his E ability.
@John-eh6jg7 күн бұрын
2:25 how are you using the web slinging back to back before hitting the ground??? Mine goes into cooldown the moment i use it
@bakaronii8 күн бұрын
Just wanted to note you do get a small benefit from the teamup through the anchor bonus
@bootmanrivals8 күн бұрын
yeah. totally forgot about that lol. thanks for pointing that out
@therevman59402 күн бұрын
Bro i feel like if you be a voice actor you'd be so good
@trufax7914 сағат бұрын
Should I swing and do the venom bomb? I feel like I am listening to when I do that
@abdullahaldbasi68839 күн бұрын
What about easy swing should we turn on or off
@bootmanrivals9 күн бұрын
for venom, i personally think easy swing is fine. spider-man is more fast paced and squishy, so i think for him you should turn it off.
@mr.glitch55473 күн бұрын
Depends. Off if you are going for better movement and faster travel but On if you want quick near death escapes
@Ignoto889 күн бұрын
What do you think about Venom's gameplay using a controller?
@Jacob-jg6cd9 күн бұрын
It hasn’t been much of a problem for me. It can feel a little clunky, but it’s manageable.
@bootmanrivals9 күн бұрын
haven't tried it. i'm a PC guy. someone in these comments was complaining about it though
@laszlowlewis20246 күн бұрын
It's good. I main him, just have to adjust your aim to be able to catch those fast squishy's
@rebelspark869 күн бұрын
The height on that dive in mobe is fu ked on console. Ive been high ive been low. It never seems to wanna trigger