The ULTIMATE Wave Control Guide For Top Lane - League of Legends Season 9

[@electro_yellow9295]

Me: tries to control wave. Illaoi: lemmie introduce myself

[@JJbro-rt5zu]

Lol😂😂

[@min_yoon_8001]

Bro lmaooo

[@kevinz2738]

Holy fuck xD

[@ivandroid719]

True but against champs like her, A. Need to kill her super early or B. ask your jg for ganks

[@FGCDean]

Tryndamere would like a word with you

[@simonflora509]

me: losing top lane every game ProGuides:

[@transcent7]

a player who can dodge everything or hit everything? hmm... malzahar wins.

[@KingVampington]

Green Kizuen I’m a malzahar player this shit happens all the time lol

[@ivandroid719]

I remember when I started playing top not knowing how to wave control is like playing 2v1

[@JustRikko]

Hello you mentioned the scenario where you try to shove the wave but it’s too close to tower or it’s a cannon wave leading to a bad position in lane, why it happens and what the consequences are, but you didn’t mention what to do in the situations where shoving the wave would be disadvantageous and why, i would like to know what to do in those situations and why exactly

[@giorgoslor_5399]

Thank you proguides, keep doing educational videos just lime that, u cant imagine how helpful they are and it means a lot

[@ooo0nemui0ooo]

ProGuides: Top lane guide Hashinshin: Really?

[@zachariz1490]

As a noob myself (i've still had some experience on vainglory, but i never was into the 5v5 because my ipad can't suffer the 5v5 X) ), just focus on killing minions. These guides are for half decent players. If you have almost no experience, just clearing well is good. Knowing when or how to kill minions is already hard enough when you're bad at evaluating whether your attack will kill the minion or not

[@doriry5368]

Yi can dodge almost every ability and also he CANT MISS AN ABILITY so skilz

[@asafelbaz6]

Fiora can do both

[@Bauson]

asaf elbaz what the hell did you just say, Fiora can miss q w and she has to hit vitals it’s 90% of her damage and she fand def miss them

[@venamussan3306]

More episodes of this series please.

[@hahqhq5409]

What do you guys prefer when using irelia top? ignite or teleport ?? I usually use ignite rather than teleport. I get a really huge disadvantage when trading so i have to back and just walk to lane with no teleport. What do you guys prefer?

[@serenegaming3793]

"We have another video called 'the only minion wave management guide you'll ever need'" ah the irony

[@symtrox]

needed this, thanks

[@waffleman4566]

0:29 A god tier kalista and an ap heavy champ walk into a bar...

[@eliahabib9267]

well it depends, if the one landing all the abilities is not fed and therefor cant do damage its not gonna be that great unless they have cc (mostly supports) and if someone isnt fed and can dodge every ability he's not gonna do anything tho so he'll just survive more.

[@borjandimeski8271]

A player that can dodge every ability because there are more champs like adcs with no skillshots

[@spaxod2254]

ur actuallly 200 iq gj

[@hoanghieubui2952]

No cuz mages are broken af

[@2xtofu512]

No there are more mages which requires skillshot. Imagine a Xerath landing every skillshot O.O

[@borjandimeski8271]

@@2xtofu512 hole up... what if a xerath who hits every a ability plays vs a vayne that dodges everything

[@mertcanaktas9405]

@@borjandimeski8271 bruh my mind is blown now XD

[@wassup7220]

I never realised how useful this was. Thanks!

[@SaberTI]

Most comments seem to say a person that can dodge everything but I believe one that can land everything is better. The guy who dodges everything is a normal player in other aspects and won't contribute much in teamfights. If all its team die, it doesn't matter if hit can dodge everything, as long as the enemy team can dodge some of its attacks and keep their health up, they can push to victory and ignore it.

[@ddeyyy]

Make an ADC Wave Management please

[@atomicinsane9119]

Will there be a mid lane wave management vid in the future

[@johanbatralo]

Adam Hussen I also agree. Please do a mid lane specific wave control guide.

[@PUBGMobile-gn5bb]

I climb to diamond this season, thanks alot

[@jurecoz3061]

thanks! now im gonna first time nasus top lane in ranked!

[@HoggiTV]

so when i want to recall after a kill and i know i cant fast push the wave fast enough under the enemy tower - what should i do instead? I guess i should just try to create a freeze and manipulate the wave so it either pushes slowly towards me, or it doesnt push in either ways, and recall then, right?

[@Cassian_05]

yes

[@Cassian_05]

im not a pro but i always pick TP in case this happens

[@christopherhenrique3169]

I love this channel, in the beggining of this season i was silver hardstucked and now i hit platinum seeing this guides.

[@christopherhenrique3169]

and maybe I'll get to the diamond before the season is over

[@JennieKim-mn1vb]

ProGuides hands down have the best league guide ever!

[@gaburieru2615]

For me I think that hitting skill shot is the best because it allow's you to help your team mates strategically whenever's there's clash or ganks

[@starttakinnotez]

The player who dodges everything carries harder than the player who lands everything. The player dodging everything is taking less damage so they will survive longer. Longer survival means more time to damage the enemy. Also, they are effectively making their opponents waste their mana and cooldowns which helps their team a lot more than the person who lands everything.

[@nathanj.2645]

Do the alcoves have much effect on this advice?

[@exequte1975]

really good video, helped me alot

[@shiric6248]

6:04 do you get less money when undertower or what?

[@guipinto5248]

No, it is simply harder for most Champions to farm under tower

[@anriettakrotkiy3350]

An ezreal with 45 cdr who can always hit a q, basically resetting his cooldowns allowing him to constantly kite would be a sight to behold. Also, with this “always hit” assumption, it means that he always lands his ult on whatever he wants it to land it, be it stealing baron or killing a target out of vision.

[@zeeee3748]

Can you upload wave management in botane

[@davidnymann6938]

If the matchup favors you early lane phase wouldn't you rather cheater recall then to do the first wave displacement strategy?

[@amrismail7336]

i think dodging abilities has greater impact ,, there's a 50:50 chance u land your skillshot then the lane is probably over

[@Samer_Design]

Amazing ty , i thought i knew enough about it

[@diegograjeda7611]

QOTD: Someone that lands all their abilities is far better in my opinion since it drastically turns the tables to your advantage. Even more if one of your skillshots perma ccs the enemy fed or pokes them to death before they are able to have the benefit of the first strike.

[@kappachino1465]

I mean if your teamate is hiding behind you cause of cat ult and you Dodge it that isn't very good is it?

[@WisdomUnslaves]

can u moe a video about junglers?

[@cernos7230]

Yes, a semi guide on how to use a Singed, such a weird playstyle

[@shel9080]

can you do one in the mid lane?

[@Daiker974]

For the question of the day i'd say, it depends on the team comp of both teams. When you have a lots of skillshots coming to you, the dodge is more valuable. But if every enemy can put target spell on you then you HAVE to hit with all your ability.

[@uhhhtherese5540]

Me: *Tries to control wave* Nobody: Literally Nobody: Lvl 8 Ryze: *Hold my Scroll*

[@jesusdavino2051]

The player that hit everything

[@dieking33]

i would say dodge everything because it make enemy frustration and they probably will waste more skill shot,summoner and time as you dodging it

[@Smigglesdigy]

Easily a player that can dodge every ability thrown. It's easy to deal high damage on many champs, but if you get hit and CC'd, you're screwed anyway. Example: Vayne. No CC, infinite damage. Yes CC, infinite respawn timer

[@anguteeraqostermann5817]

Can you make a Bot Lane wave control video as well?

[@johanbatralo]

Please do a mid lane wave control guide . We will highly appreciate that

[@776Mine]

Please make a vid about timing your ganks

[@Cinnamoroll-27]

9:33 nasus missing q on a minion whilst a canon is targeted by the tower - - - - - - - - pain

[@JsPlace]

I think a player who can dodge every ability thrown at them can carry better. If you can avoid everything you could play champs like kat or yi who naturally just stomp games when they're ahead and dodge the actual counterplay to them which is craptons of CC.

[@empoleonz0]

Depends on the role. An ADC who dodges everything with a Support (Thresh) who lands everything vs an ADC who lands everything and a Support who dodges everything

[@dyleni]

A player who can dodge all skillshots, because sometimes hitting skillshots may lead to no result because of no follow up or bad judgement (like Lee Sin's Q).

[@koenyboy500]

Guys I am trying to play Urgot. But I keep getting camped and it is TILTING xD. He got NO (real) escapes so fastpushing is suicide, slowpushing gives risk to being "freeze'd" and become VULNARABLE as heck, but freezing is almost impossible as the enemy tries the same but Urgots passive (echoingflames/ShotgunKnees) insta-pushes.... Any tips? I keep getting ganked and I need some help. I can usually 1v1 my laner in all-outs, but it leaves me so bloody vulnerable. Roaming is mediocre unless there are ultable targets. Please respond if you have any knowledge of these kind of situations. I. Keep. Getting. Camped. (and I can't freeze D: )

[@fehtdrhfdsfsdfasdg5009]

what if you play teemo he hits all abilities and miss atks 🤔

[@RukiHyena]

qestion of the day A: Easy, a player that can land every single skillshot would be a better carry, especially if they play a midlaner that can really take advantage of that. (ex: Zoe, Zed, Xerath, Etc.) unless you're one one of those big brain players that say "cant miss a skillshot if i never use them."

[@mouttiti5322]

Actually the one who carries harder depends on the champion like if u hit every of ur abilites as kog maw great job but like thats not enough

[@ElieSpierelie]

thank you so much for explaining but sometimes it is so fastT_T i need to watch it 2 times but nice voice its so nice to listen to it

[@ekasingh7705]

if u land everything and still die, wouldnt dodging everything be better? It helps with ur self-esteem as ur teamates cant burn u for inting.

[@oppositeofmismatch7864]

Eka Singh from your other comment I’m assuming ur low elo

[@lloyd5761]

can he dodge auto attacks?

[@cyclingfurball7447]

a player who land all his skill shot can carry harder for example thresh if he always lands his hooks its always guaranteed a kill or a sum for your adc

[@Hadesniisama]

Depends on the game I guess, there are many champs that does not require a skillshot to kill you or even one-shot you. Khazix and Rengar for example. It does not matter when you dodge Rengar E or Khazix W since they just jump and use Q, you are dead. If all champs were skillshots, or in a matchup like that, I would bet the dodging carry.

[@veryrarex]

well this is really helpful

[@percyfighterredeemedfighte2888]

I still don't get it. I'm trying to freeze the lane. But if the enemy is also freezing, I can't even farm (I'm always losing 1 v 1 on top, I'm really bad at this game) :(

[@leagueofiron4868]

That depends if the enemy comp is full of skillshots. If they've got point clicks or have most of their damage in autos... Dodging is useless

[@flipdip1153]

Can you make a "The only zed guide you'll ever need"? I want to main and master zed but i dont think i just have the mindset for it

[@aubreymanalo9945]

This is so good to me

[@KW-rx3ly]

Just in time before clash on eune. Perfect.

[@josephdoan1355]

My answer to the question of the day is a player who can dodge every skill shot. Dodged skill shot = living longer = making impact on map

[@hanfpeter4190]

If every enemy has 1 or 2 skillshots on avarage thats an average from 5 to 10 skillshots you only have 4 skillshots max therefore take dodge every skillshot

[@YahiaKhodja]

clean vayne player can carry harder

[@matthewjavellana5357]

I love DoubleLift

[@vincyph4066]

For me, its the player who lands, bcoz one player wont make much difference in a team game

[@cernos7230]

well except for the part if the player dodges all of the enemy skills shots from all 5 players, therefore allowing your teammates to engage more safely

[@rishijoshi7989]

Cernos depending on the champion. If it’s a squishy mage, landing is way better, while it’s the opposite of an engager/ tank

[@tendounosaiba8366]

I got promoted to master :D thanks

[@vinnyvoctpropi6494]

I myself believe that one dodgy boi would carry harder

[@mirimoto22]

Solorenekton called. He wants his wave management vid back lmao jkjk

[@eldritch0golem698]

The one who Dodge all of the Pyke hooks... except if Chogat with 8khp dodges and it hits his Ashe XD

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Someone who dodges everything will sooner or later win a 1vs 5 and if not then his buds are gonna redrawn right? But someone who lands everything could still get killed while doing it so I'd go for the first one.

[@aisuruchan2476]

That yasuo spin in the intro

[@imperialguardsman135]

The one who can land every single one. Just play some high skill cap mage like Velkoz, Xerath or Syndra. There are too many point n clicks in the game to hope that you won't be taking damage thanks to dodges, and anihilating enemy team is the only way to close the games.

[@waffillow]

Probably one who dodges every ability because it doesn't say that they can't land any abilities just not all of them

[@yourlocalguardsman]

Who lands every single ability

[@aldenchico1906]

A player who lands every ability would actually be unstoppable

[@asafelbaz6]

One stun and its gg... If you dodge every skillshot u automatically win any mage champ in the game

[@AkshansYoutubeAccount]

doging all skillshort or landing all skillshorts yi and rammus: "skillshorts? what are "skillshorts"?" rammus: "this ?": *press R* yi: "nono, this": *press Q* meanwhile ezreal: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUC

[@harrizhakimi2578]

Had to refresh to find this, lmao

[@amagasamack2724]

how to counter gank

[@Portrecik]

nice that's what I was waiting for I think guy who can dodge everything

[@ger_Raenef]

queston - my answer depends on the champion

[@smolentsevalexander]

when u play aatrox only way u can push is slowly KEKW thanks riot i can land all 3 of my Qs perfectly and it still wont kill the caster minions meanwhile the melees are full health and then illaoi comes and clicks her 5 sec cd Q and my whole wave and roam timer is gone

[@Zer0_was_taken_]

Carry harder: If you’d be able to dodge every abilitly then you could dodge 4x more abilities then you could hit.

[@ryuuun2831]

A person that plays master yi

[@weijiegoh7806]

a person that can dodge because 1

[@NovatusRSGaming]

Someone who lands every ability is more dominate vs someone that dodged every ability. Example: Zwag Xerath

[@raily_x]

Nova Satus someone that dodges all of them and hits all of them. Example: Zwag Xerath

[@federalbureauofdegeneratei2880]

Player who can land all his skillshots is better cuz he can take rewarding champs like nidalee and xerath. That way with the range it has dodging is unimportant since you ll not be getting into any ranges

[@kutokutosan7637]

Make the same for mid

[@sauracifer3557]

a player who can dodge every ability "thrown at them" (every dodgeable ability) would 9/10 carry harder the 1 game is when they pick malzahar and press R on you (being good at dodging doesn mean u use qss)

[@Waelly17]

Low elo=land High elo= dodge

[@matheushenriquearantespere5659]

The player that dodges

[@flowxc9118]

This video was uploaded some months ago...

[@leonardo-hr3zg]

a player that can dodge all habilities, because if you aren't alive you can't throw your habilities anyways

[@zyroberk]

A player who can dodge is more impactful.