'The Umbrella Academy' Cast Break Down Season 4 Fan Theories | Vanity Fair

[@1800renzo]

The way they kept laughing at all the Sloane questions because even the show never answered them either

[@Poohberieestu0992]

😂😂😂

[@marriuaw]

We were robbed in that part

[@librarysong8617]

I am so mad that it was never answered

[@jonunya1163]

None of the other marigold kids were born in the rebooted universe. Just the Umbrella Academy, Ben and Lila

[@Mrr-Chezz]

​@jonunya1163 sloane was with everyone in the last episode of season 3 there was no reason why she shouldn't have been in the rebooted universe

[@ryanrayner610]

You know the writing for this season is terrible when even the main cast looks at the theories and answer along the lines of "Wow this would've been an amazing storyline" or "Wow yeah this question wasn't answered either"

[@Spnuniversesolosmcu]

And why is it terrible

[@Gemstone45]

True this season was terrible no story, no plotline nothing. What was the point of them dying ! Such a sloppy part done by the writers. And even five and liala stuck in different timeline was even worse.

[@Spnuniversesolosmcu]

@@Gemstone45 there was all that stuff and i like lila and five and they died because this is the last season

[@puntocrocetta]

​@@Spnuniversesolosmcuare you serious?

[@Spnuniversesolosmcu]

@@puntocrocetta yes

[@afrenchexo-l1418]

They are actually enjoying asf the fans theory cause this is clearly better than season 4 plot I'm screaming justice for my cast and their characters

[@mannases]

not gonna happen sadly

[@gestimei]

THEY CANT ROB US LIKE THAT😭

[@okno2277]

@@gestimeiunfortunately they already did…

[@gestimei]

@@okno2277 THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS😭😭

[@dagoat555]

i hate how hyped they are with some of the theories saying "omg we should've done that!" it would of concluded the show WAY better

[@michelprice8185]

"Filling in all the plotholes on our behalf" geez.. I feel so bad for them why did the final season end up like this.

[@gracebrown3074]

I love how all of them laughed a lot at that especially David and Robert 😂 I think it seems to be a inside joke they have had with each other about all the significant plot holes, that they can’t say on press 😂😂😂

[@spbot2]

Bad writhers. Great actors

[@trolleyman6928]

Should be titled "The cast of Umbrella Academy read better storylines than those done in the actual Season 4"

[@streetcarp475]

Facts

[@Ozziewoodland]

REAL

[@Say0nn.]

Somebody sounds mad

[@makyleiMyles]

We aren't mad were angry 😊

[@uniquepubali]

Exactly 💯

[@claratx]

most of these theories are actually better than the real plot

[@Spnuniversesolosmcu]

Tf

[@tarangatan8119]

@@Spnuniversesolosmcu he not lying

[@Spnuniversesolosmcu]

@@tarangatan8119 no

[@7xGalaxYx7]

No

[@pfieffs]

And the one that actually worked within what we got for season 4 was STILL better than what we got in season 4

[@blxck-parade]

i love how obvious it is that all of them absolutely despised season four. the SHAADDEE robert and tom were throwing at the writers omg

[@onveeta]

ok but Aidan's reaction to the first theory tho, knowing well the terms "doubles" are not enough for Five

[@BreathMusic-l3m]

that scene...kind of funny

[@lovelylove112]

trueee ahahahahahahah

[@elwynluketejano289]

More like Dozens😂

[@samaramanuel676]

Ikr😂

[@iisnowflakey_i1810]

A Bit more than that…! If we had brisket five, I wonder how many other obscure five’s we have out there 😆

[@stephanytomaz3317]

the fact it’s so obvious that Robert did NOT like this season by how many times he throws shade 😭

[@Anneceline123]

Exactly 😂😂😂

[@ximedoxepina]

They look kinda sad… they deserved better

[@rafaels7423]

They are sad that that the series are done. It was a 7 a 8 year period of their life

[@ximedoxepina]

@rafaels7423 but this last season made them so dirty, all their characters' personalities were gone, and now the public is judging hard... I feel bad for them in that way, cause they worked so hard and it ended up being bad because of bad prod decisions!! A problem that has been happening since 2022 s3 promotion and budget, they're always unfair with the show :(

[@wowno.2269]

The writers need to make it up wtf

[@streetcarp475]

​@@wowno.2269agreed. They destroyed this amazing series.

[@tioraidh-tux]

@@ximedoxepinathe actors did great with what they were given. real shame

[@trinaq]

It's a shame that Emmy wasn't there, but she recently became a mother herself, so was probably with her baby, or had other commitments. I'll really miss seeing the cast all together.

[@bangy4269]

My school did the Adam's family semi recently

[@Khaleeddd]

Yesss I was like why isn’t my Allison there❤😭

[@gordonchen5300]

they're going through the fan theories and realising every single one of them was better than the actual plot line of season 4

[@Lemon-hq8qz]

It's hilarious because they KNOW how bad it was, and they KNOW how many plotholes there was. I love them sm they deserved much better

[@forughsemadeni8517]

I’m just sad we didn’t see Luther actually GRIEVE???

[@facecreature69]

Yeah it was kinda like it never happened, its mentioned a bit, but other than that we got 0 context on Sloane

[@radjaalounis5576]

Its been 6 years tho

[@stephanecaron3935]

​@@radjaalounis5576 Yes but Viktor is still mad to his dad, even after all this time, but Luther is like "Yep I just lost the love of my life, it happens I guess"

[@UnapologeticallyMuslimah]

​@@stephanecaron3935 People process trauma or grief differently. It was shown that Luther missed Sloane, never forgot her. He has healed. It had been 6 years. Victor though, not so much

[@ZubayrMannan]

​@@UnapologeticallyMuslimahyou can't deny the season was so horrid

[@Positivity_11114]

Okay so, There are some unanswered questions coming in my mind. 1. What happened to Sloane? 2. Why did Ray leave Allison? 3. No further story on why Luther was guarding Abigail frozen body on the Moon.

[@Vxlanqy7926]

And what regi really was?

[@tomaskovac2402]

@@Vxlanqy7926 An allien 💀 idk

[@wonderz9188]

And where was pogo

[@cosmicslacker]

Also what about the other 23 children, what happened to them.

[@tomaskovac2402]

@@cosmicslacker I know.. Reginald eat them cus hes an allien.. No just kidding idk

[@RuthannConley-x8u]

ALL of these are better ideas than the job the actual writers did.

[@christianhollman5558]

Honestly I’m really sad and disappointed that they didn’t have an answer for what happened to Slone. I loved hers and Luther’s story in the previous season so it kinda hurts a bit

[@alexaedits]

i’m gonna miss this cast and show so much 😭😭

[@skatedurr]

five mvp

[@farhanazairy792]

I miss them already :(

[@saurabhpericherla5454]

I hope they make a spinoff!

[@chuckyi2345]

The big question I have is who built the subway and why didn’t anyone else use it if it is just there?

[@N0JJ3]

Cause there is physically no way to access the subway unless you can blink like Five or Lila. Like an imaginary subway with all the complexities of time and space rules that I can't(won't) bother explaining in this comment.

[@Itomon]

I assumed Fives built it

[@pd5873]

​@@Itomon i think it was mentioned in series that one of the fives variant build it

[@PrimeTime0]

​@@N0JJ3but like... u can walk out fine into the new timeline. Does the entrance disappear behind you? Or is the timeline the seasons based the only one which has to blink in?

[@Annalisa16]

​@@pd5873 when did they say that?

[@jaylove029]

The way david said "why don't you guys hire zach?" now makes sense after i watched s4 💀💀💀 iykyk

[@nukeacola3]

can we all collectively agree to forget this season entirely

[@destructo0585]

Yes thankyou 😭😭

[@b1tt3rsweet_16_sudd3nly]

yes, yes we will

[@ylangMarcus]

Strange... I have weird memories of a fourth season, but I might just be having deja vu

[@밥밥-q5y]

I didn't watched entire season 4 .. was it that bad ?

[@generousgracey5132]

​@@밥밥-q5y Its definitely a roller coaster. And lets just say, you may have thought you knew umbrella academy, but this season is everything unexpected.. but there are some memorable moments as with every season. I will say.. if you like surprises, you should watch it.

[@ajunicee]

it’s a shame the last season of such a great show went the way it did. still, i’ll miss seeing all these wonderful characters and the chemistry of the cast

[@kyriakispanou9498]

Just finished watching the final season and I have too say it was a complete let down

[@tomaskovac2402]

I like the season but the ending was kinda bad but still kinda like it but s1 2 and 3 was better

[@dre7024]

@@tomaskovac2402the whole fanbase agrees with you

[@MyAceQueen]

I Liked the beginning of S4 just Fine, but the Last 2 or 3 Episodes were soo rushed…. And they included Lyla in the ˋBig Endingˋ but Not Ben? Sorry, I loved the Show but the Ending was really disappointing

[@akitotolilbro]

someone better pay for my therapy after watching s4😭😭😭😭

[@vicgllghr]

I'll pay for both of us 😭✋

[@vicgllghr]

@Lam0z yass ofc 😭✋

[@bluefeather1264]

I'll pay for a second therapist because we all need it

[@streetcarp475]

Maybe we should start a support group

[@demitryhargreeves587]

Same, I need to erase my memory of Five and Lila's momments

[@brigc7755]

The cast probably think all these are way better than what actually happened 💀💀💀

[@lgarmadon776]

Maybe Sloane and Ray were the friends we made along the way

[@thestraltheundead4093]

lmao

[@EmelyMHernandez]

💀

[@GarmadonesSon]

😂😅😢

[@lgarmadon776]

@@GarmadonesSon what a coincidence in the name 😂

[@Marie-jz1qw]

This cast is incredible, the ending didn't do the whole series justice

[@vicgllghr]

7:20 "Very game of thrones" bruh. That's literally what It was! 😭✋

[@richajoshi4503]

All of their faces when victor is reading Schruke- theory 😂

[@mikaylalindsay]

im glad ritu and david can still be professional in the same room together

[@ryazs]

did they break up ?? or were they never together 😦😦

[@mikaylalindsay]

@@ryazs they broke up :(

[@tismeaji]

​@@mikaylalindsayoh what no wonder they had that whole circus with lila and five by episode 5

[@afrenchexo-l1418]

@@mikaylalindsay THEY WERE DATING ???

[@mikaylalindsay]

@@afrenchexo-l1418 YES FOR LIKE TWO YEARS

[@raelsiv]

I'm so sad at how this season turned out but I still love the cast

[@flo4223]

Same

[@JGCoolfella]

when the cast can't even be bothered to watch season 3 and acknowledge the fact that there are plotholes 💀

[@emaanedits]

the theory about just five dying aged well 😃

[@MendozaAndRodriguezsWife]

Yeah I'm scared I haven't seen season 4 yet and I swear If five dies I'm going to have depression 😢😭😭😭😭

[@emaanedits]

@@MendozaAndRodriguezsWife have fun watching it 😭

[@pearlynloh8834]

​@@MendozaAndRodriguezsWife oh u sweet child

[@MendozaAndRodriguezsWife]

@@pearlynloh8834 what doooo youuuuu mean😭😭😭😭😭

[@anweshasarma2777]

I don't wanna break any news to you- ​@Charlettyouremofriendnextdoor

[@GrandAdmiralMitthrawnuruodo]

1:55 „Another great story line that we didn‘t do“ XD The irony is crazy.

[@leahhoward7645]

3:23 Robert: “filling in all the plot holes on our behalf”…..

[@maybe1768]

Wait, but what about the notebook in the subway in five’s handwriting? When did he write it and how is it there?

[@KindSpiritRed]

Probably one of the other fives

[@SkaJoodleSkaDoodle]

“Filling in all the plotholes on our behalf, which is great” is unfortunately too accurate

[@The-Gabs]

1:34 the happiness in Elliot's face bring me joy omg

[@danacoburn-wb7mj]

With how they made five act in the last two episodes him sacrificing himself seemed like the only way to redeem it

[@MalloryVicious]

The weirdest thing of season 4 is that all the fives in the diner were the same age. LOL. Is there an average age and body to get stuck in when Five Hargreeves gets tired

[@julianasoares3313]

They were all like, every one of this theories is better than what the writers did for s4

[@MeshackTom-r9g]

The writers always screw up final seasons

[@R1sh.Ann2]

Can someone tell the writers of season 4 to pls redo it or create another one with our ideas🙂

[@vibinvina4309]

Wasn’t it based off the books

[@vibinvina4309]

I think that’s basically how it was supposed to go so can’t blame only the series writers..

[@R1sh.Ann2]

@@vibinvina4309 i think theres only 3 comic book that they based and they created the season 4 for the plot and to have a proper ending (sorry for my english)

[@sams7635]

I don't think the comics are over

[@ExceededTag6048]

@@vibinvina4309 4th one wasnt really related to the books in any way, i mean it started going off the rails in s3 itself

[@Ericka_Martinez]

I feel like in this last season they changed five completely, I didn't like this season because five was always characterized by being serious and angry

[@Iminlovewithfictonalcharacters]

Well, he did have 5-6 years to cool down

[@tomaskovac2402]

​@@Iminlovewithfictonalcharacterswell he do and he was finally 6 years without worry and saving the word so he was more calm cus his anger go away

[@demitryhargreeves587]

And he aged, both physically and mentally I miss his angst thou

[@tomaskovac2402]

@@demitryhargreeves587 yeah 😂 but he have angst with love with lila witch i HATE so happy there nkt doing angst at that clip

[@King_Jonghyun]

yeah... it was just bad writing overall for this season, all the characters, their context and personalities were pretty much ruined 🥲

[@AliyahVazquez-m5w]

They should’ve use these ideas for the 4th season

[@StickOfButter-1]

Feels like they wasted an absolutely great cast on a season that clearly didn’t think things through and mischaracterized some of the characters ( Five and Lila ) and the ending was horrible but atleast bittersweet

[@ExceededTag6048]

I think the whole Five and Lila thing was justified but it was definitely rushed af and DID NOT NEED TO BE A MAJOR PLOT POINT IN THE SEASON FINALE 😭

[@vicgllghr]

I just finished S4, I cried so bad

[@Iminlovewithfictonalcharacters]

Same😭

[@360dog]

because of how bad it was?

[@vicgllghr]

@@360dog yup 😭

[@infinity_sh4816]

@@vicgllghr what so bad about it, idm spoilers

[@user-xb9xs2zi7g]

@@infinity_sh4816they all died

[@AngelTortured]

Even the cast knows the last season is a trainwreck.

[@23LyraG]

0:55 Aidan just nodding along at the multiple of each characters while the others freak out about that idea 💀🤣

[@ChrisM-qo1jc]

I love how they are big fans of their own show! Particularly Tom Hopper was so sad for Luther when he learns Sloane might be betraying him 6:49

[@mariabotona]

They genuinely should have done any of these instead of what we really got ngl (still mad abt lila and five yall)

[@ValeB87five]

Aidan is totally Five in this interview. he keeps to himself, with a superior look, and when he speaks it is to explain theories 😂

[@moonladyyyyyyy]

All of these theories were actually better than what we got.

[@I.readtoomuch]

“Fitting in all the plot holes” even Robert got it

[@sunna_]

you can tell they thought theses theories were better than the actual plot 😂

[@darkdiguh]

It's clear and anyone can tell that they weren't happy about the end as well...

[@Buccaneer115]

0:46 Cast realizing a random dude on reddit did a better job than all idiot writers in the set.

[@Sunsunenhyphen]

1:15 Adian is like I already have a twin

[@Vinnyboah72]

10:29 HIS FACE WHEN HE MEMORIZES ZACH 55 WHATEVER-

[@iisnowflakey_i1810]

The way the last theory was almost spot on… literal chills!!!

[@Mrhandyhitman]

Dam I know they genuinely knew half these theories are better than what they wrote for the actual season. What a shame

[@Brandin-James]

Aidens eyes are stunning. Jeepers like blue and black

[@Mavieray]

Do you think he has Arabic roots or something cuz he looks like many Syrian or Lebanese because Keanu Reeves has Arabic roots and he looks like Aidan they look remarkable btw

[@LeidalizRiveraDiaz-x2e]

The fact that Aidan’s reaction to the “Five dies in s4” had me😭😭

[@kaileyslife6686]

5:08 that impersonation was amazing 😂

[@cheyanneramcharan5130]

I'm so sorry completely off topic, but I need to know others opinions on the whole Five and Lila thing. Because I felt that was so rushed and they so didn't give him any closure when she didn't choose him I mean what was the point of that storyline

[@girlwluv]

they were such a chaotic and fun duo to watch in season 3. Making them love interests was completely unnecessary

[@ezinneobih2989]

yes completely agree

[@crazy_black_butterfly]

I think they were awesome as siblings... But what the season made of them took me off... I was bordeline disgusted, cos again they seemed so much like siblings and she actually married into the family so😅yikes

[@cicadaplum]

It did not add anything to the plot but there always has been a weird underlying chemistry there. Arguably if their actors were closer in age, I would've preferred Five x Lila tbh.

[@Kamegang]

For me its just shows that when given a choice for a happy ending, lila would choose to be with her “family” and five just wants “someone” to be with him

[@lukemorrison4791]

You see it should have been at least 7 seasons. You could leave the season with a cliffhanger connecting to the next final 3. Making it at least 7 season. This show should come back. Love this show!

[@vibinvina4309]

Stop I love klaus’s accent so much!

[@King_Jonghyun]

they should've let fans write this season, it would've been better than what we got 😭

[@ralphchristopherjeneza9840]

5:08 Immediately opened the comments after this spot-on impression and no one is talking about it

[@cariissaavilla4353]

PLS WE NEED ANSWERS OF WHY FIVE AND LILA FELL IN LOVE- IT WAS SO RANDOM BRO

[@shaliaaaah]

@@cariissaavilla4353 FRRR IT'S VERYYY RANDOM

[@Taroxcos]

WHAT.

[@johndecastro1518]

Lila answered that question on show

[@Meriam01]

Wait wha- That's a nono for me. Why is it a mess? Wait no, it makes sense at the very first beginning.

[@betteryourlife865]

Because they spent almost 7 years together trying to survive?? You either become enemies, best friends or lovers. They just ended up romantic.

[@realtheodore]

i would like to believe someone erased the timeline where season 4 was created.

[@tomnook23]

7:10 they have spoiled everything by their reaction 😂

[@JoaoP.434]

"We are the cast of the UmbreleR Academy". As someone who loves phonology, I couldn't stop noticing.

[@lintasiril]

If Emmy was here: VERY contagious laughter going around the room. It’s great to see the cast laugh at the most random times in interviews.

[@nikkikindinger2718]

The only thing I really didn't like about season 4 is that it seemed like things were building up to them all having amazing powers, but they barely used them at all. It should have been full of amazing fight scenes, but it really wasn't.

[@austinlapiana6691]

THIS!!!

[@Eggsther]

I love Elliot's dry humor sjsjsjksks

[@HarryBallz-kt1jn]

That thing ruined the show.

[@bcc1428]

Ellen

[@BaqerF]

@@bcc1428well i mean he goes by elliot now, we should respect that and he’s still as great as he was before

[@SamAndColbyEditsoffical8686]

1:27 and then I meet like a viktor who is 5’9😭

[@gmb2006]

I love how Justin hasn't watched season 3 yet and it's been 2 years already since it came out 😂

[@s.k.1603]

Not surprising as he seems more of a book person than a television person.

[@juleslxvr]

Ok so I’m on ep 5 of the new season rn. Around halfway down with the episode. And five and Lila are kissing? Hello? 😭 I don’t know what to think anymore.

[@Harper876]

Omg same😂

[@destructo0585]

Well they're all gonna cease to exist at the end 😭

[@dominicgalati6134]

3:09 anyone else notice how Diego litterally mentioned season 5

[@AK.x.x]

he was joking

[@soulz7209]

Zachs theory was better than the actual season 4 plot 😂

[@xWillByersWifeyx]

Ritu (the actor that plays Lila) is so pretty! Her smile is gorgeous and her laugh is so contagious! I wish I had her looks ❤❤

[@Drelen-r1u]

4:10 evil grin😂😂

[@dizzy8666]

LMFAOOO

[@draibat]

the way theyre all laughing at the sloane ones cuz theyre like no... actually she just... is gone.

[@soda_pop9446]

3:30 wow they were correct lmao

[@Briaaanz]

My original thoughts for how things would turn out for the series: the Commission was created by the family to keep the events we saw the family go thru... one apocalypse after another, until they reached a timeline where they had become self-actualized, happy, and a well adjusted family... leading humanity to a new golden age. I still prefer the series i have in my head rather than the one i saw in s4

[@NigelRudyard]

Please make all these variants. It was sad to see the show end on a slight downer.

[@jakeperalta6945]

“Why don’t we guys hire zack?” The shade is too real. Even they know the storyline is off, given their reactions too. 🤣

[@1andonlyneo]

such a shame they didn't bring back sloane because she is obviously really well reccepted by the audience as can be seen with the theories here, most of them are about sloane

[@Neurodegenerate64]

Allison is an actress whose actress was new to acting when cast as Allison. 🤯 Picasso I like it 😂

[@Gracedougherty-sx5vm]

If five dies I'm going to brake down and cry

[@shaliaaaah]

wtf bcs why did Five and Lila KISS?!?!?!?

[@Taroxcos]

No way ur joking whattt

[@shaliaaaah]

@@Taroxcos NUH UH BRO I SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES (sorry for the spoiler, though 🫶🏻)

[@1st.kha0tung]

i was in shock 😭

[@Taroxcos]

@@1st.kha0tung I’m literally on episode 4 haha why do I kinda see it?? Like only a little bit but

[@Taroxcos]

@@shaliaaaah ITS OKAY!! Im on ep4 so haha expected spoilers but WHATTT why do i kinda see it

[@Jadzebra]

Klaus's actor being Irish makes so much sense Edit for spelling

[@Z0hR]

I loveeee the Five theory 8:00

[@TheJigsawKiller]

Basically came true but even bigger

[@madmax6413]

All the twists mean nothing when everything is just one time line and the rest have vanished

[@divon13]

love that the cast themselves are enjoying these storylines more than what ended up happening

[@dennystapleton6227]

“Another great storyline”😂😂😂

[@leah6820-y9v]

Thank you for the subtitles!

[@t5dagreat]

"Incredible writing.. . but you're a little too late!"😂😂😂