The Unbeleivable Impact Of Victorian Medicine | How The Victorians Built Britain

[@Bootleggies]

I’m really glad I live in a place and time where I wouldn’t be locked up like those poor people in the institutes. I can be a functioning citizen, despite being mentally ill, thanks to the breakthroughs in medicine and psychology. Millions had to suffer, but it’s because of them and the doctors that cared about people that I can live a happy life. Even now in the 21st century things are far from perfect, but we have made a lot of progress.

[@allyrieck7544]

Well said

[@dianeluke1746]

Plus we now recognize mental illness as an actual disease that can be treated, and not a taboo or something that must be hidden away. I suffered from horrible panic attacks in my early 20’s and thanks to SSRI’s that horror is behind me.

[@radium_habit6869]

Imagine being chronically depressed and the doctor tells you that your possessed by a demon.

[@spuntoddler9702]

Those people shouldn’t be locked up back then. In those times this was revolutionary. They had to do what they had to do. But today yeah for sure lock those fuckers up.

[@yas-ob4hd]

@@spuntoddler9702 what

[@elisunday1304]

"We executed this Burke guy because what he did was so wrong....now let's make a book out of his skin."

[@sandrapowell4166]

And let his accomplice free

[@LockonKubi]

Just another Tuesday in my Rimworld colony.

[@rrice1705]

Guess they really threw the book at him, eh?

[@Scud.X]

Ahh the circle of life

[@jek__]

Most people agree that using every bit of an animal you kill is showing it respect ;)

[@nomdeplume2213]

Also, just think Ancient Egyptians knew moldy bread kept wounds from getting infected. That was 4,000 years ago. They didnt know why it kept infection at bay because penicillin wasnt evented until the 20th century but it just blows my mind that ppl knew it 4,000 years ago but not 200 years ago... i suppose stuff gets lost to time and history.

[@jessimoot7810]

I’ve been taught the multiple burnings of the Library of Alexandria was why we were set back hundreds of years in scientific discovery.

[@nh4ci295]

I give credit to Egyptians and Arabs for using methods, plants and potions etc. That worked a long time ago, but the truth is - they kind of did that out of luck. They didn't know why these things worked. What the Europeans pioneered was 'why' and 'how'. Unfortunately, it took a long time and a lot of finding out that included trials and errors, but essentially lead to what we now know as evidence based medicine.

[@RenRyou]

also remember we don’t have a lot of African history because of the library of Alexandria having lost 100,000 books worth of scholarly text and such

[@socialmoth4974]

Thank goodness we live in a time of anesthesia. The graphic description of amputation made me sweat a little.

[@christinawells2024]

I’m a nurse, and it takes a lot to gross me out/make me uncomfortable. What really bothers me is when patients are in pain, so I don’t think I could have been a nurse back then.

[@rrice1705]

Knowing the patient was awake . . . I know this was the cutting edge of medicine, but that's like something out of a slasher film.

[@winter7091]

Id rather just die of sepsis then live through the pain of amputation 😅

[@SapphireeCos]

My great grandfather was a solider in wwII, he got both legs shot and they cut off his legs with a saw in hospital. He was awake during this.. my mother told me

[@anthonythomas1504]

Totally whitewashed account eliminating any clerical/parochial influence. SAINT Alban's is named for a saint. Tell the truth.

[@varschnitzschnur8795]

Not mentioned here is the fact that knives and other instruments with wooden handles are extremely difficult to sterilize. Two other practices contributed to mortality and morbidity. The doctor with the most pus on his coat was generally regarded as the best. Also, instruments were not even washed between surgeries.

[@coypu2005]

Unbelievable we’ve come so far.

[@oldsguy354]

I remember a story about an American Civil War surgeon that insisted on soaking his instruments (tools) in hot water before an amputation believing that it was less painful for the patient. Not surprisingly, his patients had a better survival rate than his contemporaries.

[@kristiea8131]

🤮

[@blueevlogs]

.l?l

[@spacecaptain9188]

This fact often leaves me wondering why wood is so commonly put into contact with food (cutting boards, cooking spoons, flatware, etc..).

[@varschnitzschnur8795]

Semmelweis had earlier had some insight into the spread of disease. He found that the mortality rate among women giving birth was markedly reduced if the doctor washed his hands before delivery. Ridicule in Vienna lead to him moving to Budapest.

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

Damn

[@venus_envy]

Naturally a man is given credit for this, and it's easier to give credit to a single person so I get it, but actually midwives had been pointing this out since male doctors strong-armed their way into child delivery, previously the domain of women pretty much exclusively. Women knew for ages that hands must be washed, but when they, the midwives, told male doctors, they were naturally scoffed at and ridiculed and belittled. Basically told to shut up sand stay in their lane, ironic since they _were_ in their lane, it was the doctors who weren't. Anyway, eventually people wised up, and most give credit to Semmelweis, who I believe is even immortalized on money for his contribution, but of course it leads me to wonder: how many women were saying the exact same thing as he for literal _decades,_ only to be ignored because they were female and "didn't know what they were talking about" (despite having expertise on the most female thing imaginable, giving birth)? Oh well. Anyway, it's important to acknowledge that the midwives helping to bring children into the world weren't clueless idiots, and that giving birth in some ways got a lot worse when men stuck their noses into it, in some ways that persist until today. For an example, the natural, safest, and least painful position to give birth in is not for a woman to be lying on her back, rather she should be on her knees, on all fours, or somewhat laying on one side. These positions considerably widen the pelvis compared to laying on one's back, and they also make it considerably less likely that a woman will need to be cut by the doctor. The position that we all picture women giving birth in is something that is done for the convenience of the (traditionally male) doctor, and to the detriment of mother and child. Women's medicine has a long way to go before women are treated like fully-fledged human beings, and the domination of males in medicine is still felt today, and still leads to sever injury and the deaths of thousands of women. I as a woman strive to keep as healthy as I can because I know that since I'm female, any care I receive will be sub-par compared to what a male can get, and and that many false assumptions may be made due to ignorance of female anatomy, which often doesn't get covered much in anatomy textbooks. I don't play fast and loose with my diet for these reasons, I don't want to take my chances, or have to suffer unduly for male supremacy.

[@k.s.k.7721]

@@venus_envy Absolutely correct! And we cannot forget that most drugs have been tested on men - sometimes exclusively, even if those medications are meant to be prescribed to women only, or as a percentage of the population with a particular medical situation. Somehow men's anatomy/physiology was considered "normal" and women's was "aberrant". The exclusivity of men's anatomy is still even going on today, as all women's shoes are made from the design of men's foot anatomy - they are simply sized down. A few woman-owned companies, such as Ryka, make shoes based on women's actual foot structure, instead of assuming we are just "smaller men". A woman's hips and legs are different due to our pelvic structure, so our feet react differently to our gait, which is not the same as a man's narrower pelvis. We have differently designed feet to accommodate this. So many assumptions without any actual data to support them.

[@sandrapowell4166]

All the deaths and suffering that could have been prevented!

[@fluffandstuff2000]

@@venus_envy That is such a good point. I'm 16 min in and I was thinking of how it was so amazing then to have "antiseptic surgery", but I imagine many people had ways of stopping pain and keeping clean (not to knock the innovation at the time because it is all very fascinating). Common herbalism or what some would call witchcraft to start. Humans have been around for a while. I can't imagine it was that new. Why such barbaric measures where not just common place but almost protected until "the right" person came alone to get all the glory. I imagine all of the useful information out there that was scoffed at or ridiculed because of a persons background. It seems to be that way throughout all of time. Sadly even today. I know I'm getting all cynical but I love how history like this makes me think about what we don't hear about. Thank you for your info on midwives. It's very enlightening.

[@67pkmaniac]

I actually enjoy reading the comments on Absolute History videos.

[@jamestheartdude9418]

Yeah, because fewer kids watch this kind video. Less annoying kids, higher the quality of the comments section.

[@sarahoshea9603]

No, it's because ppl who are inclined to self-educate are less likely to be aggressive/rude (a symptom of fear, which often comes from lack of understanding) so there are significantly less rotten remarks in this section. Cooperation is the reason for our evolutionary success, it's certainly not our physical adaptations 🤣

[@theblackbaron4119]

You're welcome. ;)

[@CissyBrazil]

Wow, the Grays Anatomy drawings are phenomenal!

[@pickledragonrebel]

Ikr? I have a copy of it and I'm not even in the medical field. I love browsing through it.

[@freshwaternymph]

Way to take credit for x-rays without mentioning Mme. Curie. She's just the woman who pioneered the ability to x-ray as well as designing and working in portable x-ray vehicles during the war. I get she's not British, but the perspective you propose erases her from the timeline, you're following, to make it all about how awesome British doctors were. They didn't work in a vacuum.

[@aznisles]

Don't forget the German physicist Wilhelm Röntgen , _the_ pioneer for x-rays.

[@LathropLdST]

Oho, but of course, mrs Curie was married to a Frenchmen, and Roentgen was German, so no dice... They would not mention either that a British doctor was the scapegoat for Wilhelm II's crippled arm...

[@jacksonbarker7594]

Yeah, as soon as they said Brian singlehandedly created modern medicine it’s pretty clearly propagandized, still interesting though

[@Thinminteater]

@@jacksonbarker7594 I’ve watched quite a few episodes from this series. A lot of it is saying how bad things were before brilliant and amazing Englishmen fixed everything and now England is the pinnacle of greatness. Very heavy propaganda imo

[@Thinminteater]

@Astropathix XIII because she devoted her life to it… please read a history book

[@chowfam1]

What a fascinating episode! Really loved it! Is there a reason though, why the "German scientist", who invented the x-ray machine, couldn't be mentioned by name? Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen is well known and established as the inventor. X-ray pictures are called "Röntgenaufnahmen" in German.

[@sandrastreifel6452]

I believe they were called “Roentgenograms” in English, too.

[@lindatisue733]

Xrays in Swedish are röntgen.

[@keizoxd5623]

And the First Nobel award winner.

[@kristiea8131]

Thanks for the info!

[@chowfam1]

@@keizoxd5623 so true!!

[@aicerg]

In "The Butchering Art" by Lindsey Fitzharris, there are many well-described examples of the gruesome methods used in medicine back then. Horrible, but couldn't stop reading. Great book.

[@aprilsilvers381]

I'll have to read it. Sounds interesting

[@IveGotItTwisted]

I'll have to find it somewhere and read it, extremely interested :D

[@MoaMorgenstern]

I read it too. It’s really good!

[@LeDrPsycho]

A fun fact: during early times there was more maternal mortality rate in the hospital than at home. Due to the fact that the doctors did post mortem and then didn't wash their hands and delivered the baby causing infection to spread. This was found and hand washing before procedures was mandated.

[@armanflint]

"It's more like carpentry than surgery..." Ummm, yeah. That saw is called a, "dovetail saw," and it was originally invented for joinery. Fast smooth cuts, made with a light hand saw through dense hardwood. (It's also known as a Phyfe saw). Cutting a leg of in 28 seconds is pretty impressive. Most U.S. civil war surgeons took 2 minutes to amputate a leg. Most soldiers would die from gangrene infection in the civil war (I'm sure he Crimean war yielded identical results.) The Minié ball round that was shot from a rifle, was a .58 caliber round that would shatter the bones in arms or legs upon impact. (Like a shrapnel grenade). If you were shot in the arm or leg it had to be amputated. If you were shot in the torso, and the bullets could not be dug out with a metal probe, or finger, you lived for the rest of your life with lead slugs inside your body. Since field sanitation wasn't really contemplated until after Lister's discoveries, if someone went fishing around inside your body for a bullet, you would most likely die from infection a few days later. The more you know.

[@spacecaptain9188]

"Until recently" they were the most successful UK serial killers? That's worrisome. Who beat their record?

[@armanflint]

Harold Shipmen? (Maybe).

[@LathropLdST]

...or the moor killers (the Hindley woman and her partner)?

[@toddcarlstrom398]

@@LathropLdST Myra hindley and Ian Brady (moors murders) only killed like eight people

[@LathropLdST]

@@toddcarlstrom398 Totally right, Mandela effect... they were not listed because they confessed more crimes, then it was proven they did it to self-aggrandize themselves...

[@chronicghosts]

could it be the West duo?

[@Evistopheles]

Made me remember that one time where we went to the Narrenturm in Vienna on a school trip and one dude fainted from the horrible things they had on display there. Love me some realistic wax sculptures of horrible breast cancer or people with extreme syphilis scars… kid me was unable to eat lunch that day. If you are medically interested, see if you can visit it some time.

[@oatsroasted6759]

I truly enjoy and learn from this channel. I'll be 50 this year. As a kid I remember when a total hip replacement was done Doc's use cement and other methods. There was a a long and nasty looking scar. I have both hips totally replaced with metal. My scars about 5 inches long. Not a KY road map for the 70s and 80s.

[@andrewcurtin7003]

As somone whos been under the knife more then id wish apon anyone. Im truly blessed at all these inventions and am honestly grateful for it. This was a great video that gave me insite into many of the things that today have kept me standing. Thank you for making this.

[@Manticorpse]

Fresh bodies were needed- "But where to get them?" *suspense/mystery music starts playing* *cheerful voice* : "They went straight to murder." ahh sometimes I love history and how resourceful and innovative people where with gaining their livelyhood

[@colincofield3747]

With an Honorable mention of Mary Seacole with her own money was also a nurse during the Crimean War doing basically same thing as Florence Nightingale.

[@Tsiri09]

And she did it with her OWN money.

[@sandrastreifel6452]

Florence Nightingale, though, was a pioneer of statistical analysis.

[@mikebellis5713]

Really? Are you sure?

[@LathropLdST]

@@sandrastreifel6452 of course, she could afford to -time and money were on her side.

[@kristinaivey8627]

I am so thankful for anesthesia and our knowledge of hygiene!! Those poor patient’s suffering!

[@shaynecarter-murray3127]

Wasn't Liston the guy with a 300% mortality rate? Killed the patient, his assistant, and a witness died of heart attack? (Not Lister, but the record setting amputation dude)

[@nomdeplume2213]

Yes! I think ur 100% right

[@resnonverba137]

How would one achieve a 300% mortality rate?

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

@@resnonverba137 read the comment

[@resnonverba137]

@@AnnaAnna-uc2ff I did. That doesn't add up to the impossible.

[@gottfriedosterbach3907]

He should have either been a priest or a butcher. I guess one could argue in a way he was both.

[@fieroboom]

My man Magneto doing some fantastic British documentaries...

[@Elomaramaro]

For some reason they had to cast Benedict Cumberbatch as the voice actor

[@NastyWoman1979]

I couldn't help but like when he was just on the screen.... 😉

[@jennifertingelof-truecrime5890]

It's impressive how these discoveries changed the world and life of everyone. We owe them a lot!

[@supraguy4694]

When anesthetic was first invented, many people actually refused it prior to their surgery because they viewed it as a luxury for weak willed rich people.

[@sarahoshea9603]

That's still how Vermonters view it.

[@letoubib21]

@@sarahoshea9603 Thanks, so I'll never work thereI I happen to hate patients yelling during operations *. . .*

[@ariell6489]

That's ridiculous.

[@TedApelt]

Interesting how much we have learned about stopping the spread of infectious diseases, lessons which even today people often just don't get. Also, a quote from Dr. Steven Novella (who hosts The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe and blogs for Science Based Medicine) is very appropriate for this video, and I want everyone to know it by heart: "There is no such thing as alternative medicine. There is only medicine that doesn't work." Dr. Steven Novella

[@privatemale27]

I don't think I'll ever forget the padded rooms I saw at a children's treatment center I saw in the 90's in Texas. I am glad I was only ever there to visit someone, not stay.... Of course every kid there was on medication too. The rooms were disturbing, but I can understand the necessity to provide a safe space for some people to calm down. I do wish they could have done something about the pee smell though.... It is really unfortunate how things went with american state mental health hospitals. Obviously, some were bad, but with most places closed down now, many of the people that would have lived in a facility like that are living on the street.

[@pickledragonrebel]

When they closed those facilities they were supposed to provide outpatient care (including helping patients find accommodation and support) but alas they did nothing. Empty promises by empty politicians....

[@joannschlicker6995]

I remember when they closed the mental health facilities where I lived. A man was let loose in the morning. By noon, he assaulted a woman in a park, stabbed her with a blade.

[@NastyWoman1979]

Thanks Regan 😒

[@bradley163]

I have to say, being from America (but having my father's ancestors being directly from Britain, and my mother being 100% Native American), this channel is one of my favorites on KZbin.

[@Scud.X]

Okay.

[@carrielange2692]

I'm not in any way comparing today to the 18th century. but i was a child in larue carter h ospital in the 80s. punishment included being locked in empty, padded rooms and being tied down in a hospital bed by your arms and legs both. These were punishments for misbehavior. our floor was on the top of the building. they had outdoor cage like areas and so we never got to go on grass. the only "outside" was the concrete porch area that was on the roof. We could look down into the courtyard where there was grass. that's where the adults got their outside time. We never got to leave our floor. I know larue carter was moved to another building in the 90s and the old building was demolished. my understanding is mental hospitals aren't like that any more. I hope that's true.

[@sandrastreifel6452]

I haven’t been involuntarily hospitalized on a psych ward for decades, but I remember being confined to the “quiet room”, a padded cell, for a short time, 5 or 10 minutes. There’s much more respect for patients/consumers of mental healthcare today. Some treatments are still involuntary, like medication you are legally mandated to receive if you’re “a danger to yourself or others”. I was always treated well in hospital but I’m concerned about paediatric mental patients, they’re extremely vulnerable! I looked up that hospital, named after Dr Carter, a real Victorian!

[@christinawells2024]

It’s quite unfortunate how little mental health care has evolved. There is plenty we can do, but no funding for it. Many, many people who have mental illness can be contributing members of society, they just need help. Many of them are extremely intelligent people. I live in the US, and it’s horrid how little we do/have for mental illness. The help is out there, but it’s so expensive. I work in an ER, we see so much of it. We hold them, social workers come evaluate them. If they are lucky they get placed somewhere, but even then they are released because they can afford it. It’s like they have to commit a crime to be held. It’s so screwed up.

[@sarahoshea9603]

When the slavery of prisoners runs a big part of the country it's not surprising that happens to be where the funnel ends. I see a lot of links between public schools and prisons these days, widening the top of that funnel right up.

[@JustKrista50]

Not much different. You're treated like a prisoner. You don't have access to outside areas because people may escape. I was in voluntarily for depression not that long ago. The room was like a cell. A metal cot, thin mattress. A toilet and sink with only cold water. Showers were only available a few days a week. None on the weekend. You had to wait your turn to use 1 of 2 showers. I had to hand over all my clothing, even under clothes. I was given paper pjs. One size fits all. White and thin. It was cold. I was embarrassed. There was no books to read. No TV. No writing tools. Absolutely nothing to do. Because we were in a locked and sealed unit, our food was cold. All "behavioral health" patients were housed together. Myself and other depressed or traumatized people, with those suffering from psychotic episodes; violent, delusional. There was a young woman who spent the whole time there screaming and raging. There was a big male there who spent all day and night terrifying female patients. He was allowed to walk the hall and sit in the common area. I spoke to a Dr ONCE. One time. I was there for 4 days. The day I spoke to the Dr, I was released with no after care set up. This was just 1 yr ago in America.

[@pickledragonrebel]

@@JustKrista50 good gawd ! That's awful ! I was in a psych ward in the nineties in canada for a few months and they were wonderful. (Apart, of course for the ECT. (Electric shock treatment) it was voluntary, but highly recommended by my drs. I was of course, put to sleep for them, but they ruined my short term memory for life (and it didn't help my depression). Hope you're doing better now, wishing you the best of mental and physical health Peace

[@morganfisherart]

He zips through a LOT in 42 minutes. This subject matter could easily fill a series of 6 episodes or more. Maybe someone has done it already...?

[@a3xccy379]

Unfortunately I'm digging up the Internet or rather scouring (*Too british eh? ) but I was lead to a bit of disappointment.

[@erinbailey4631]

You failed to mention that Lister was ignored for years and years and no one really believed that sterilization and the washing of hands were absolutely necessary till after his death! He was made fun of and excommunicated by his peers! They said it was too time consuming and expensive to clean and sterilize. The idea of washing hands is only 150 ish years old.

[@eleisatrujillo3398]

I like his ways of making history more interesting

[@donnadequire-rios3531]

Me too

[@aaronburratwood.6957]

I’m glued to this episode, I’m riveted.

[@davemoss36]

I like his accent

[@Malouco]

HISTORICAL TRUTHS ARE GREAT BUT WHEN THE EGOISTA LIES ABOUT THEIR ROLL IT IS BORING

[@Malouco]

@@donnadequire-rios3531 ME TOO LOVE YOU

[@JJmetaphysics]

Love the hosts cadence. Keeps me entertained and aware 😱😱😱😱

[@christinawells2024]

I could listen to British people talk all day! I love it.

[@JJmetaphysics]

@@christinawells2024 you CHEEKY LIL BUGGER, not all brits be chatting like attenbrough

[@christinawells2024]

I can’t help it! I love the accents. I have a Texas accent. We moved up to Illinois and people up here tell me they like the way I talk lol.

[@cloudfart2672]

This is so well done. Need more of these!!!

[@lovepet4565]

I love having surgery honestly because Ive had several in my lifetime, and I've never ever had a bad experience . They always make you pain free & Euphoric. Calm. Sleepy. In a very scary place & having a scary procedure involving scalpels.

[@rrice1705]

Did anyone else get a little queasy at her description of the amputation? Holy moly that was graphic.

[@irkengirl16]

As someone with health problems I am grateful for modern medicine

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

If we'd lived just a few decades earlier, I think neither my wife nor I would have lived as long as we have. I think our insurance company hates people like us--we cost a lot to keep alive.

[@potatoduck5837]

Florence Nightingale is and always will be my favorite historical figure.

[@sandrastreifel6452]

Did you know she’s a pioneer of statistical analysis? A childhood hero of mine!

[@waffle8364]

Pretty amazing.. in all of human history, written and oral, 1800's to now was a blink of an eye.

[@edifanobbonafide]

Is there a better way to dive into history than watching these videos? Thank you so much!

[@allynated]

books and podcasts, but also having to listen/watch/read various sources as some "facts" vary

[@msaijay1153]

Time travel

[@JustKrista50]

Read. Read old text books. Read old newspapers. Read old magazines. Read books written in the time you're interested in.

[@Aquelll]

An orthopedic operation room still sometimes sound like a wood workshop but luckily the patients are out cold and the hygiene is a little bit better...

[@letoubib21]

Yrah, that's very true. And though being an orthopedic surgeon I've always been a pretty untalented carpenter *. . . ;-)*

[@christinalydia]

I love the presenter ! I could watch a whole series about this topic also.

[@lindasonger121]

You think the same as I do about the things that were used by people and left behind. There is so much you can realize about a person just by looking at what was left behind.

[@missheadbanger]

John Liston famously has a 300% surgercal fatality, the patient's leg was amputated and died of infection, he accidentally amputated his assistant's fingers and he also died of infection, a man had a heart attack dure to shock because he thought he was also cut.

[@chuckguerin8141]

Great content. Just recently studied all this. Good job all the way around! Very Educational!

[@saharafinnegan760]

Had it not been for other grave robbers , Burke, and hare we wouldn't know half of what we know about human anatomy. I strongly encourage to read stiff by Mary Roach which goes a lot in depth on the discovery of history of human anatomy and giving credit to cadavers . They still use cadavers to this day for science and plastic surgery. The Victorian age was a scary time to live. During this time as well they didn't know about hygiene or anesthesia. Fun fact Joseph lister was the inspiration behind listerine the mouthwash. Mouthwash was created in 1879

[@pickledragonrebel]

Listerine was originally developed as an antiseptic cleaner first. It was then tweeked and sold as mouthwash. And yes it was lister

[@nomdeplume2213]

Pretty sure that 28 second amputation ended in death. If i remember right the dr was a better butcher than dr and all his patients died.

[@MercuryCat]

If memory serves, the 28 second amputation had a 300% mortality rate; the patient died, the assisting nurse was injured during the procedure iirc and died shortly after, and an onlooker died of shock

[@Nick_Lavigne]

Anesthesia was common in America well before 1865. 95% of all civil war (1861-65) surgeries used anesthesia. Chloroform, Ether, and even morphine were all well known in their analgesic qualities. Basically I find it hard to believe those surgeries were done with just biting leather.

[@pickledragonrebel]

I believe you're incorrect. Yes it was used by a dentist in 1846 but was not used in the Civil war

[@hyacinthbucket3803]

Anesthesia was used in 95% of Civil War surgeries. Sulfuric ether had been discovered in Europe in the 1830's and was first used as an anesthetic by William Morton in 1846. After a successful public demonstration it became widely used in surgery. Jan 22, 2017

[@aaronburratwood.6957]

16:10 Is this where the name of the antiseptic mouthwash “Listerine” comes from? It’s sounds about right, great episode. My father’s family is all from England.

[@colincofield3747]

Was thinking the same thing.

[@varschnitzschnur8795]

I believe you're correct. Interestingly, at one point the Federal government found Listerine mouthwash to be ineffective and stopped some of the company's claims. Apparently, this problem was subsequently corrected.

[@amazon411]

That’s what I was wondering too lol

[@JoMarieM]

Yes, this is definitely where Listerine came from!

[@savantianprince]

Listerine was from Lister

[@budasardi4701]

Nice doku! And as usual, not a word about the "savior of mothers" Dr. Semmelweiss Ignác who made a great jump with surgery and the hand sanitizing prior a surgery.

[@LauraTeAhoWhite]

I miss the days when scientific discovery was celebrated.

[@sarahoshea9603]

Read these comments, it wasn't ever celebrated. Scientists are usually nuts or saviors, we lock up both.

[@pickledragonrebel]

I concur wholeheartedly !

[@michelleevans4776]

Thanks!

[@Myriako]

Thank you for this video! 😀🌸

[@janedoe805]

Absolutely wonderful video, the narration was brilliant along with the photographs and editing were spot on! I have MBC and two thoughts continually raced through my mind as I watch this... If I lived in the Victorian Era, I’d be dead and thank heavens for Anesthesia.

[@cynthiahughes1081]

I love the entrance tune.. a grand entrance to some interesting history. I'm loving the show.

[@cuttugirl7629]

Even today, Psychiatry is still a hundred years behind other fields of medicine. We may not be physically lobotomizing the patients, but the medications are few and weak, with so many side effects, some just act like chemical lobotomies. Doctors still don’t understand a majority of the mental illnesses.

[@deborahshallin5843]

Just wanted to ask, how can you say such things about psychiatric medications? Are you in the medical field? I as a nurse, have been witness to a number of remarkable recoveries due to mental health medications.

[@eljardindesofiB2688]

Gracias amigo gracias por compartir

[@OofusTwillip]

Florence Nightingale gets all the glory. Mary Secol, who set up her own field hospital in the Crimea, isn't even mentioned, because she was Black.

[@DavidZennaro]

In Copenhagen Medical Museion there is another operating theatre. And I suspect that there are many more around in Europe. It is grossly overstated that these things only developed in Britain. They did in all Europe and it was an international profession already at that time.

[@pickledragonrebel]

I didn't hear them say others weren't also....the show after all is about Victorian Britain, why would they talk about other countries

[@FayazAhmad-yl6spFZ]

Although I'm an engineering technologist of electronic, i enjoyed this medical field fantastic historical documentary.

[@crystalbirthdays]

I am so glad that I don't have to worry about if my amputation knives are sharp enough. My job is just to get them to that guy alive.

[@nocouponsforkaren8587]

I'm also glad I don't have to amputate limbs my job is retail inventory though

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

I tell the younger medics that we don’t save lives, we keep them alive just long enough for someone else to save their life.

[@nickwrong6469]

U ever text and drive while going lights and sirens? I have

[@sarahoshea9603]

Is it decent pay, being an EMT? I lived/worked in a slaughterhouse for over a decade and I'm thinking of going into something else.

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

@@sarahoshea9603 In the US, you’re looking at around 10-12 dollars an hour. That’s if you work for private ambulance companies usually. You get paid a little more working for government entities and fire departments. The experience you get is second to none though.

[@suzanneirving7257]

Lovely video but they don’t talk about the negative pushback that both Dr Lister and Florence Nightingale had to fight against.

[@horsepower523]

Documentaries like this one really make me appreciate the fact that we're lucky enough to be able to enjoy the benefits of the 21st century medical services and knowledge. Medicine in those medieval and Victorian times resembled more to a horror movie than an actual healthcare system. Imagine surgeons performing surgeries without even washing their hands first.

[@allthingstoallmen8912]

I'm soooooo thankful to be living now! Ohh my god! Also: the score and narration on this is EPIC!

[@annominous826]

You know, even an anaesthetic as relatively tame as laughing gas can work wonders. I have had dental work done under laughing gas on several occasions, and came to look forward to my visits because of the how pleasant and relaxing they were.

[@pwrplnt1975]

Amazing historical video! Loved It!! The treatment of the mentally ill was absolutely abhorrent!

[@smarie3874]

I just went through a rather uncomfortable medical procedure. Thanks for reminding me to be grateful instead of grumpy.

[@anna.rrrrrr]

I swear this channel is holy moly the Best!!

[@insertlamenamehere3522]

First man to introduce antiseptic surgeries? what about Ignaz Semmelweis who everyone completely ignored?

[@Orcman666]

Shh! Don't shatter the brits pride with some pure facts. They can not see beyond their little island. The fact is that Ignác couldn't prove his theories because we lacked the science at the time, but he deserves a f*cking mention at least.

[@mikitz]

It did really take an eternity for anyone to wonder if clean instruments meant less casualties, which is baffling.

[@toastysock]

@@Orcman666 chill dude wtf.

[@TonyPproduction]

Semmelweis made crucial social and political mistakes in the scientific community which led to his reputation being left in tatters and his name being mostly forgotten by history, all discussed in depth in robert greenes book “mastery”

[@morganfisherart]

@@mikitz - well, I wonder when cleanliness in general came into daily life. Even in my lifetime there've been changes. Now I bathe or shower daily. 60 years ago as a lad I had a weekly bath. Perfume was originally invented mainly to hide B.O. Wigs to avoid hairwashing. I wonder when soap was invented. Etc, etc...

[@karenax254]

Excellent documentary, thank you.

[@olivermiles5283]

Fun fact hospital's with asylums will still used throught the early 1900s to 1997 when the last one was in New York and was demolished.

[@letoubib21]

And since then that Orange Peril from Queens has been at large?

[@tgonzalez1983]

It was the secrets learned from Dracula. He and his human wife took part in many alchemical experiments. The church wasn’t too happy about this

[@christinawells2024]

Mercury for syphilis…they weren’t lying when they said the syphilis wouldn’t kill them. Unfortunately the treatment did. 😳

[@itskitty808]

Have this playing into he background while I do my vet tech homework. How fitting.

[@gorymarty56]

Those buildings are amazing

[@TheJamesstark]

I just realized why English people say "Hey, you Berk!" Fantastic! Very informative video.

[@Annika4000]

I think that one is Cockney Rhyming Slang, berk being short for Berkeley Hunt, which rhymes with... well, you know.

[@MeMommyEms]

That human skin booklet! 😱😱😱

[@E.T.S.]

Excellent videos. Thank you very much.

[@hammondOT]

This is a great series! It's nice watching something without Tony Robinson yelling into the camera and pulling another pratfall.

[@ariell6489]

Who?

[@ginadisbrow9324]

Daaaamnnn!! I haven't researched to see if Laudinum had been developed at that time, but I know damn well that rum, wine, etc. had. Couldn't the poor patient even have be allowed to get plowed to numb the pain!?? Barbaric!!!😱😱

[@missbadhairday1426]

Important to remember that alcohol thins the blood and you would bleed out. I'm not sure if that was something they had observed and taken into account as to not choosing that method, but I imagine they would have known about it

[@ginadisbrow9324]

@@missbadhairday1426 I can guarantee you, speaking for myself, if it was me; give me the alcohol and I'll take my chances rather than passing out from mind-boggling pain!!! If I can black out from drunkenness before a successful blood transfusion, at least I'm unconscious and in no pain.

[@sarahoshea9603]

I will give u a gift: I learned that you can only be in so much pain, and then your brain shuts it off- *pop!* Just like flicking a switch- and it's not there. Now I don't recall how long it lasted, but long enough to where it was tolerable when it returned. Now you know you don't have to be too scared, even of the big stuff🙂 You're welcome.

[@ginadisbrow9324]

@@sarahoshea9603 But the patient had to endure the physical as well as the psychological trauma and torment up until that "pop", and people have differing levels of pain tolerance. Further, there's the pain that shocks you when you regain conscientiousness. Ergo, any form of natural or synthetic sedative would've been preferable and more humane. Check mate.🙂

[@letoubib21]

@@missbadhairday1426 _"Important to remember that alcohol thins the blood and you would bleed out . . ."_ *What?!* Pardon me, but that's absolut nuts *. . .*

[@overlord8658]

From across the pond, another well done!! Enjoy your show!!!

[@theblackbaron4119]

16:16 I just realized why the mouthwash is called LISTER-ine

[@resnonverba137]

Very interesting. Thanks for upload.

[@wcsoblake85]

19:02 Lister also invented a style of knife to make surgery faster, safer, and easier! Google a picture of the Lister knife and you all will see what I'm talking about.

[@drmoss_ca]

I was delighted to meet and work a little alongside the "medical artist" at UCL when I was a first year medical student in 1976. She was on the same corridor on the very top floor of the Anatomy Building as Patrick Wall, who was famous at that time for his work with Ronald Melzack (you can look up why). I still snigger about the time my wife to be, a fellow student and a committed vegetarian was invited to dinner at Wall's home. She ate the chicken rather than make a fuss in front of such a hero, as she mistakenly understood he had won a Nobel for his work! We did take consolation in being lectured by three other Nobel winners (Katz, Pauling and Black) and later in life I had a physics Nobel winner as a patient (Boyle). I took a photo of the latter with a camera using his invention when he brought me his medal in a plastic carrier bag(!) to examine. Lovely man.

[@lexlex5555]

Soon enough our current methods would also seem stupid to the future practitioners

[@mh2blade]

true, even looking 20 years ago some of the treatments seem ridiculous.

[@jacquihesher5424]

I think about that a lot how barbaric some of the things we do to patients now will seem 100’years from now

[@lindatisue733]

@@mh2blade Ultra sounds... had a friend that died of ovarian cancer in the 1980's. She had been in pain for years. My first ultra sound in 1992 required that I had a full bladder, had to wait a month to get one and wasn't very clear. Now every year, when I go to the GYN they do an ultrasound. Three years ago my doc saw something, turned out it was a 7 mm precancerous lump on an ovary.

[@venus_envy]

@@lindatisue733 Another things ultrasounds may be remembered for is their role in the female holocaust of the 20th/21st centuries. They were a very important tool in determining sex-selective abortion, and contributed greatly to the over 100,000,000 (one hundred million) females killed during this time (and the subsequent shortage of females in some countries which leads to an increase demand in the sex slavery trade, sadly). Spot on observation.

[@tangenty6987]

These people put on a great educational video! I have said for decades that very little grosses me out. But as someone who nearly missed a hip disarticulation amputation (I have a much!! less extensive one, thanks gangrene) Well I turned green and had to pause the vidro awhile. While possessively holding the "problemish" leg. 😆

[@sandrastreifel6452]

Up the close and down the stair, In and out wi’ Burke and Hare. Burke’s the butcher, Hare’s the thief, Knox the man who buys the beef…

[@Kalldalen]

Interesting program! The Victorian age was an age where Evangelical Christianity came into prominence. Florence Nightingale for example was an ardent follower of Christ. Joseph Lister was a quiet, unassuming man and was deeply religious. Although brought up in the Quaker faith, he converted to the Scottish Episcopal tradition. Both religious faiths influenced his strong work ethic and a lack of interest in social success or monetary reward.

[@sprinkles_091]

omg..the tanned book has the same design as the top of my hand...noo:o

[@amandathurston2720]

15:27 that’s crazy, they knew very well what opium was in the Victorian era.

[@AlexanderSauerPlaysWithHeroJr]

Thank you for the wonderful documentaries. !!! I really enjoy them , all of them. So refreshing! Actual information actual history, real and informative. So welcome in the flashy bling bling or its not a thing mentality of todays upcoming generations. To be honest im 45 now and i have never regretted any national geographic magazine i read casually even in my pre teens. People always think im really clever or something in conversation just cause a topic reminds me of some bit of unusual info or story i add in. Im not. just read that once or saw a picture or a doc at one time. But i promised honesty well,... I didnt know what "idols(tv)" was until last year...oeps... hihi...

[@2ndchancehypnotherapy]

Greys anatomy drawings amazing! I just finished my A+P course.

[@morganirvine2327]

and I look in wonder at 120+ year old footage of the greatest medical gift that era gave us xrays at the end of the video, we are blessed with modern medicine being able to save our lives everyday.

[@jdvaulting]

There is a surgical theatre in Sweden , i imagine his comment about the only one in Europe was incorrect

[@stillfangirlingtoday1468]

I seriously think I know more about Britain's history than that of my own country... Oh well.

[@theblackbaron4119]

Well then you should learn more about your country :)

[@OutroBusan]

same here lmaooo but i love the victorian era, and i love learning about it.

[@wokewokerton8092]

Yeah well thats what happens when a society actually writes down their history. Well documented societies are the best as we can still learn from the past. The woke these days love degrading the Europeans but they were just some of the most developed and migration was just something that was bound to happen while the population blew up.

[@barbarabrooks4747]

They really understood the mind/body connection. They saw the connection between sunshine, fresh air and rest for healing, as well as the role of emotions on health. Unfortunately, they recognized symptoms and diagnosed well, but really had no effective treatment beyond clealiness, fresh air, rest and a good diet. Unfortunately, they often prescribed alcohol and opium when they didn't know what to do.

[@jek__]

"how britain healed the world!" >looks at the indian pakistan border lol, good going guys, really did a bang-up job at that one

[@TheFiddle101]

Great programme. Victorian Britain changed the whole world in so many ways. I'm not British by the way.

[@808bigisland]

Typhoid Mary never dies. I get homeless vaccinated in downtown. The sick stop by for help. I get them a meal while we wait for the ambulance. Most recent was a druggie with stage 3 sepis. His leg turned black. The day before I was too late - Big Mama gave in. I break up fights and mediate between the ill. Trust is good in dark downtown.

[@venus_envy]

Sounds like you do important work, thanks for the contribution. Especially during these trying times.

[@creepydoll2872]

Loved this!