The UNDENIABLE TRUTH About Steph Curry’s Top 10 Ranking

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@HoopReports
@HoopReports 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you have Steph Curry on your top 10 ranking?
@nicolaskeyoung8675
@nicolaskeyoung8675 2 жыл бұрын
top 5-8 they hate on curry too much
@idk_-dj7mp
@idk_-dj7mp 2 жыл бұрын
I would put him in my top 7
@primevolley3577
@primevolley3577 2 жыл бұрын
@@idk_-dj7mp top 4
@primevolley3577
@primevolley3577 2 жыл бұрын
top 4
@hbgaming6296
@hbgaming6296 2 жыл бұрын
7
@kylerae9196
@kylerae9196 2 жыл бұрын
I actually love the comparison between Curry and Shaq. They're basically exact opposites. Shaq wasn't that hard a worker, to the point that he never even got good at shooting free throws, but he was undeniably the most physically dominant player ever. He was - literally - built different. But his work ethic wasn't there. Curry, on the other hand, is nothing special, physically. 6'2, shit ankles, small. He's never physically dominated the court in his life. And yet... his work ethic and genius has carried him past hundreds of physically better players, to dominate the court and change the very game through sheer effort and skill. Shaq was born for Basketball, while Curry earned his place.
@quackcicle8959
@quackcicle8959 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jacobyliang6234
@jacobyliang6234 2 жыл бұрын
well-said.
@loganmattoon5284
@loganmattoon5284 2 жыл бұрын
Steph is such a hard worker no one really talks about it because steph is so humble
@shadoka9409
@shadoka9409 2 жыл бұрын
@@loganmattoon5284 100% in my opinion hes one of the hardest working players in the league man isnt the best shooter of all time for nothing he definitely spent crazy amounts of hours in the gym working on his shot everyday
@ryant1506
@ryant1506 2 жыл бұрын
Mic drop
@datpenguin2461
@datpenguin2461 2 жыл бұрын
when curry retires, people will realize a couple years later how really one of EVER this man is and what he’s done for not only the franchise, the nba and the world of basketball
@pootsplasencia4846
@pootsplasencia4846 2 жыл бұрын
I see lebron as 2 all the time higher than kobe and duncan and curry i dont understand this how can duncan and curry who played with less allstars throughout their careers and never jumped from team to team while winning more and on top of that beating lebron more in the finals be under him it just doesn't make sense i get he got better numbers all time but so does westbrook over curry
@Mmmm-lx9vb
@Mmmm-lx9vb 2 жыл бұрын
@@pootsplasencia4846 Lol currys warriors always had 3-4 all star when they won rings, youre right about not jumping teams but you gotta consider that both Spurs and Warriors produced almost all of its all stars beside Curry and Duncan, Cavs in the other hand gave Lebron absolutely nothing in 6 years. Its pretty likely that if Curry was producing mvp numbers with those 2004-2010 cavs teams he wouldve left aswell
@arongahan3594
@arongahan3594 2 жыл бұрын
Nah we wont sorry this was his first finals mvp and even at that i wouldve gave it to wiggins he was a beast defensively and offensively
@Thankyou4x
@Thankyou4x 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mmmm-lx9vb well that’s just seems like a good organization building good teams around there best player 🤷🏾‍♂️ cant knock him for that when he literally grinded to get them where there were so he deserves whatever comes his way.
@Mmmm-lx9vb
@Mmmm-lx9vb 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thankyou4x I totally agree with that and im not knocking Duncan nor Curry at all. All im saying is that its kinda unfair to diss Lebron for leaving Cleveland and use Duncan and Curry as an example of people who "did better" because their situations were very different. The talent Curry and Duncan had around them was way better compared to 2000s Cavaliers and actually increased in half a decade.
@mikekenney8362
@mikekenney8362 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up immersed in Russell and Cousy and Chamberlain. We had season tickets to Wooden years UCLA. We got to watch Laker practices with Baylor, and West. We watched high school Kobe. Personally, I’ve never seen a more complete player or better shooter than Curry. His best point of comparison is his ability to raise his teammates’ play. Even if they are young, or have underperformed elsewhere, he creates an aura of invincibility for everyone on the floor..
@robertgriffin8724
@robertgriffin8724 2 жыл бұрын
@ Mike Kenny Why did you leave out L. Alcindor/ Kareem Abdul Jabbar. He was at Ucla and Los Angeles Lakers! Wooden coached Alcindor! After Chamberlain left Lakers, Kareem soon joined. you remember? UCLA won three NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS when Alcindor was there! Wooden was coach!
@mikekenney8362
@mikekenney8362 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertgriffin8724 you are so right. Lew Alcindor was the most dominant college I’ve seen. Kareem Abdul Jabbar was the most dominant pro.
@kbak1919
@kbak1919 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikekenney8362 i agree with best shooter ever, but most complete player? he isnt a good defensive player which is literally half the game.
@DetroitTyler
@DetroitTyler 2 жыл бұрын
Complete player with no All NBA defensive nods? Complete offensively i'd agree as he can attack all 3 levels unlike anyone we've seen generating insane space.
@mikekenney8362
@mikekenney8362 2 жыл бұрын
@@DetroitTyler Yep your point is taken, but attack is from all three levels and draws two and three defenders to him. That dominance breaks down the opponents offensive setup and energy.
@rileysmith6030
@rileysmith6030 2 жыл бұрын
I know he brought it up in the video but height cannot be overlooked in my opinion. Being the shortest on the top 10 in a game designed for height is it’s own achievement. It’s a part of his game he’ll never be able to change and something he had to overcome to reach goat mountain. Similarly I think efficiency is an underrated stat that we don’t properly track with accolades. Too often we see players get MVP while having HUGE usage ratings and middling efficiency. Efficiency is a benchmark for mastery of craft, and shouldn’t be overlooked in a discussion of greatest all time.
@queenvioletrichards3633
@queenvioletrichards3633 2 жыл бұрын
that's why many people don't want him at the top 10 since it means you dominate the league for some time and they don't want a 6'2" guy to have that in his resume. but we don't know yet, bron and steph hasn't retire yet, the two who dominate the league after the duncan and kobe era. but he is definitely on the top 10 for sure
@thej1615
@thej1615 2 жыл бұрын
Efficiency also greatly increases your chances of winning the game especially if it’s better than the opposing team….or opposing player. U know Steph has the greatest playoff win percentage of any MVP an NBA history? Coincidence? And if your impact winning the most, you’re the greatest, especially in your generation
@queenvioletrichards3633
@queenvioletrichards3633 2 жыл бұрын
@@thej1615 yeah but they will say he just have good teammates for a long time, like is it really the players fault that many wants to play with you since you dominate while involving the team, an attitude which many could not do since they want the spotlight & success all by themselves
@twitchtv8102
@twitchtv8102 2 жыл бұрын
What if he win two more rings with another finals mvp ..?
@wallaceandgrommetgorgonzol9284
@wallaceandgrommetgorgonzol9284 2 жыл бұрын
Similarly I feel you have to look at the difficulty of different aspects of basketball, shooting a 3 pointer ( especially at the degree Steph shoots ) is much harder than say dunking like shaq does ( as much as a dominant player shaq was ) Steph is also one of the best handlers and has an insane layup package, add to this his defense as well. For me all things considered he’s one of the greatest talents in basketball in skill level, I have him 4 but kd is also top 10 for me but has low-key ruined his career
@TheArtOfBe
@TheArtOfBe 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with this. Curry is further up on the list than people know.
@terminatah500
@terminatah500 2 жыл бұрын
#5 behind Kobe for now
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast 2 жыл бұрын
@@terminatah500 I would have kobe lower than steph. Steph comparatively to his peers is around 6 or 7 with the chance to move up
@socialcreditsmaster5759
@socialcreditsmaster5759 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast yea I would move kobe down a bit and maybe bring Tim up or russel cause russel was slept on and most people think he's overrated
@scottcarl3086
@scottcarl3086 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%! 👍
@carlogaytan7010
@carlogaytan7010 2 жыл бұрын
Hes 6 or 7 prob, if he wins another hes moving 1 or 2 slots up ahead of Kobe maybe
@nexesses1548
@nexesses1548 2 жыл бұрын
He had a hard time getting on there because of the legends status, the nostalgia and stuff of the other players. He is already on there and once he retires people will start to give him his respect even more
@reivang7196
@reivang7196 2 жыл бұрын
It’s insane how Golden State Warriors literally became the world favorite NBA team , like Stephen Curry has so many fans outside of America , and All of the Philippines 🇵🇭 Loves the Warriors and Curry.
@jenignacio
@jenignacio 2 жыл бұрын
Warriors and Curry numbawan! Mabuhay!
@acetv5333
@acetv5333 2 жыл бұрын
Kadiri ka. Di naman Pinoy si Curry bakit nilalabas mo dito pagka-patriotic mo. May pa flag bang nalalaman 🤮
@sactownsteelers6748
@sactownsteelers6748 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but curry and the warriors have lots of haters there was a time they said the warriors been there too many times but what about the lousy lakets or the raists Celtics im sick of hearing about them and the only way that happened is from curry and warriors
@FearOfTheTrooper
@FearOfTheTrooper 2 жыл бұрын
all of philippines love bandwagoning and rooting for teams most likley to win. And they are also very rude and smug about it. Worst NBA fans on the planet, absolute internet cancer
@jootpepet
@jootpepet 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say HALF the Philippines. The other half rides with Bron and hates warriors to death 😂
@blacksource2101
@blacksource2101 2 жыл бұрын
MJ and Curry are the only ones I can always go back and watch play. It doesn't matter how many rings the others have or how well they played, Mj and Curry changed the game in their respectful eras so that's the entertainment I gravitated towards and wanna see. The players I like to watch is 1)MJ 2)Curry 3)GP2 4)Kyrie 5)Kobe
@kennethgriffin7921
@kennethgriffin7921 2 жыл бұрын
kobe literally had the most jaw dropping highlights ever. made the most difficult contested shots and trick shots/layups/poster dunks and you don't think he's worth watching lol
@nicholasq2408
@nicholasq2408 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethgriffin7921 he said the players that changed the game. Kobe is one of the basketball gods but he modeled his game from Jordan's so technically he did not change the game in his era.
@quly9236
@quly9236 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was your all time list at first cause I didn’t read the paragraph, I almost fainted
@blacksource2101
@blacksource2101 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasq2408 exactly, and kobe is on my list just because he played like MJ
@AkoSiFrance
@AkoSiFrance 2 жыл бұрын
Its MJ, Kobe and Curry for me.
@Sheriff_of_Paddys
@Sheriff_of_Paddys 2 жыл бұрын
The love you show Curry and Duncan on here is great! Two players who I feel always deserve more love. Keep up the awesome content!
@scottb3034
@scottb3034 Жыл бұрын
Duncan gets too much love, Robinson was the best Spur of all-time.
@specialknees6798
@specialknees6798 Жыл бұрын
@@scottb3034crazy
@milesgibson8880
@milesgibson8880 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the logic of counting NBA titles in comparing all-time greats, but I don't think enough is said about Curry being far and away the greatest shooter ever. Kids today simply may not understand that, for much of the history of the three-point line, the best shooters were catch-and-shoot specialists. Steve Kerr is a great example: He owns one of the best all-time three-point shooting percentages, and he'd wait on the wing or the corner, open and ready to shoot. Reggie Miller was basically the exception proving the rule, equally strong with or without the ball. But Curry takes it to a whole different level. He hits those same shots after running all around the court, trying to get open. There were whole stretches in this year's finals when Curry's defender would be face-guarding him 35 or more feet from the basket, not even looking at where the ball was. He also has the best handle of any all-time great shooter, allowing to get past the best defenders and score. And his shooting ability creates an unbelievable gravitational pull, creating endless opportunities for his teammates. For me, Curry's easily in the all-time top ten because he's the greatest shooter of all time, and not for a short span but going on fifteen years. He could easily finish his career with six titles and 4000 three pointers.
@Weavileiscool
@Weavileiscool Жыл бұрын
Being smaller has its advantages for not getting run down as easily. If Curry can keep his ankles healthy he can have longevity like LeBron has shown.
@levisena7997
@levisena7997 Жыл бұрын
6 títulos acho que não, mas talvez 5 e outro fmvp
@elliotl7021
@elliotl7021 Жыл бұрын
6 titles easily? I know you probably didn't mean that literally. They ain't easy to come by, and that two-timeline shit in the Bay might hurt his title chances. I'd argue that it's already hurt Golden State this year. Outside of the word "easy" - I'm with you 100%
@brett6468
@brett6468 2 жыл бұрын
The Warriors may well win one more championship within the next 3 years. It will mostly depend on the rapid development of at least two of their recent lottery picks (Wiseman, Kuminga, and/or Moody). Starting next regular season Curry,, Thompson and Green need to adopt a minutes restriction to prevent injury and to conserve energy for a sustained play-off run.
@patrickarchuleta9594
@patrickarchuleta9594 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible to do a 3peat they have young kids that are team players all things are possible thru Christ he hives you strength. Wake up.Bottom line
@Jason-TheChad-Muska_circa1995
@Jason-TheChad-Muska_circa1995 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be shocked if Curry doesn't win at least one more before he retires
@paoerfulone1089
@paoerfulone1089 2 жыл бұрын
Moody and Wiseman showed promise in the Summer League, Kuminga looks like he’s still got some growing to do. Expect those three + Poole to get heavy minutes in the regular season while Kerr limits and manages Steph, Klay, and Draymond for a deep playoff run like you say. I definitely think they’re the favorites to repeat atm. And I also think Steph has one more league MVP in him.
@bndctgrnd8560
@bndctgrnd8560 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jason-TheChad-Muska_circa1995 agree Maybe 2 If not atleast 1 ring If curry won 3 or more championship And Atleast 2 finals mvp I believe he can be in the 5 all time
@Jason-TheChad-Muska_circa1995
@Jason-TheChad-Muska_circa1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@bndctgrnd8560 Yeah I think that if Curry wins two or three more championships and two more finals MVPs then at that point I'd put him over LeBron and Kobe. Not only that I think you would have to consider having the discussion of him overtaking Magic Johnson at the #3 spot and as the best point guard of all time. After all Just because you're at the top of a specific category doesn't mean you're necessarily the best. For instance if you look at LeBron and Jordan. LeBron has .711 points per minute played in the NBA and Jordan has .787 per a minute. LeBron has 52138 minutes played Jordan has 41010. That's 11,128 more minutes. LeBron has 37,062 points and Jordan has 32,292 which a difference of 4770 points. Jordan would have only had to play another 6,070 minutes to surpass LeBron and points and had Jordan played the same amount as him then hed pass LeBron by 3970 points Jordan would be the all time points later over Kareem. I know this seems like a tangent. But my point is to show that viewing somebody at the top of something doesn't mean that they were the best or most efficient at it Because you can have a freak specimen come along they can play for 30 years that has a 3-point percentage in field goal percentage 10% less than LeBron or Jordan or Kareem but would surpass and total points rebounds or assist and that doesn't make them the best and that why most hall of fame NBA players Not only don't see LeBron is the goat but not even in the top three. Hell you can even argue that Jordan isn't number one and instead it's Wilt. However I disagree I've got #1 Jordan #2 Kareem #3 Magic #4 Wilt #5 LeBron #6 Shaq #7 Kobe #8 Bird #9 Bill Russell #10 Chef Curry
@ljhokk
@ljhokk Жыл бұрын
My top 10 list is: 1.Michael Jordan 2.LeBron James 3.Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4.Wilt Chamberlain 5.Magic Johnson 6.Larry Bird 7.Kobe Bryant 8.STEPH CURRY 9.Bill Russel 10.Saqille O'Neal
@MistressOP
@MistressOP 2 жыл бұрын
I think moody is underrated. I have this GP2 feeling about him with his hussle but not as good with his hands. Yet and outside shot with solid Defense is more warriors.
@brianclifford7861
@brianclifford7861 2 жыл бұрын
Give him a little time. GP2 is about 9 yrs older and alot more experience.
@DarkModeUser23457
@DarkModeUser23457 2 жыл бұрын
And now, GP2 is gone 😭😭😭
@anoob09
@anoob09 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkModeUser23457 and Juan and porter
@DarkModeUser23457
@DarkModeUser23457 2 жыл бұрын
@@anoob09 wait, porter left?! 😭😭😭
@anoob09
@anoob09 2 жыл бұрын
and Damian and bjelica
@nathanielrobles3284
@nathanielrobles3284 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just so glad he won fmvp and silenced all those media and haters for throwing anything bad on him and disregarding anything great he has done. I won't mind where he be placed top 10 cause he has his own GOAT status as the best shooter ever, best off ball, best gravity, best free throw and changed the game.
@manuelpasco2048
@manuelpasco2048 2 жыл бұрын
That should have been 4 MVP’s, they took away the first and gave it to Igoudala, 2&3 to KD. KD was playing well on Warriors because he never gets doubled team like Curry! Now, you can tell when KD gets doubled team against Celtics, see what happened, swept by the Celtics. Now, tell me how good is KD when he’s on another team, he could not even carry a team.
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 2 жыл бұрын
@@manuelpasco2048 well if curry could play defence at a high level (high relative to the NBA) he would of got his first one! The greatest of players don’t get fazed by double teams. It’s harsh, but if he couldn’t find a way out and KD happened to get open and score more, he deserves both his fmvp’s. He still had to make the shots. He’s offensively great, but sorry lacks in the defensive area. You can’t just ignore that. Everyone on the og top 10 is better than curry
@manuelpasco2048
@manuelpasco2048 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamskai321 he can play defense that you and others think he could’nt, but offense is number one criteria. One on one offense can anybody stop Curry? KD was lucky because opposing team’s don’t pay attention to him rather than Curry, because they want to stop him on three’s instead of two’s like KD does.
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 2 жыл бұрын
@@manuelpasco2048 absolutely horrible take. Curry is not a elite defender. He is average at best with one season having exceptional stealing. Don’t overrate his defence. He’s not a terrible defender. I never said that. I said relative to other guards he doesn’t cut it at all. Offence is important, but you are just completely discounting defence entirely which is crazy. It’s half the game… I would argue one on kyrie would cook curry easy. He’s shown multiple times that he can own his ass. KD wasn’t “lucky” he just out performed curry end of story no excuse. Stop making these crappy excuses for curry just because you’re a typical curry fanboy loool
@christiannotm215
@christiannotm215 2 жыл бұрын
@@manuelpasco2048 worst take ever do you even watch basketball
@toobasaurus23
@toobasaurus23 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching the NBA for 36 years. Steph is, in my opinion, top 5. Everyone plays the game now as he plays it. The 3 shot is every teams game now because of his abilities. For me, it's Jordan, Magic, Lebron, Kareem, and Steph. Then Kobe, Shaq, Russell, Duncan and Olajuwon.
@landonzinke2803
@landonzinke2803 2 жыл бұрын
Magic at 2 bold bold bold statement
@williamethegod5013
@williamethegod5013 2 жыл бұрын
so are you saying Stephen curry has a goat case
@williamethegod5013
@williamethegod5013 2 жыл бұрын
no disrespect how old where you when you first started
@jjos77
@jjos77 2 жыл бұрын
magic over bron ? 💀
@antipro4483
@antipro4483 2 жыл бұрын
Where is Bird?
@eclipse1161
@eclipse1161 2 жыл бұрын
For a player that has changed basketball into a completely different sport, I don’t see him outside the top 10 players of all time.
@Zamppa86
@Zamppa86 2 жыл бұрын
But did he change the game for the better? Current NBA bball is soft 3 point shootaround. 80s and 90s ball was still miles better. Curry isn't even in my top 15. That's because I have done my bball research.
@antipro4483
@antipro4483 2 жыл бұрын
So George Mikan is also in your top 10?
@adamg.5482
@adamg.5482 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zamppa86 its about efficency man...Curry top 10 wheter you like it or not
@Zamppa86
@Zamppa86 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamg.5482 Nope. Curry isn't better than MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Kobe, LeBron, Wilt, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, Russell, Robertson, West or Dr J for example. Curry's playmaking is average to good, he only averages 6,5 apg which isn't anything too great for a starting pg. He has no athletism(can't dunk) and his defense is average at best. He has never been nominated into any all defensive teams during his career which means he has never been a top 4 defensive guard in the league during his career. Curry might be the best 3 point shooter of all time but that's only one part of offense. Outside of that his offense isn't anything top 10 great. He averages 24,3 ppg through his career alongside with 6,5 apg which are good numbers but not top 10. That combined with his average at best defense drops him out of top 10. Even outside of top 15. Curry's offensive numbers are a bit worse than Jerry West's but West played all defense-level D while Curry does not. Also West put up his better stats without 3 point line. I have noticed many "Curry is top 10!" lists/shouters after the Warriors won their latest championship. I have to say that it seems most of those people probably are 25 years old or younger and have not done their research before coming out with their pretty laughable lists. Youngsters think "basketball = 3 point shooting" and "better 3 point shooter = better player overall". When you get older/do your research you will realize that's not the case.
@sergiolabre4119
@sergiolabre4119 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, I make a balance between physical ability and skill, I think that more physically differentiated players have an advantage over the smaller ones, who are not necessarily better players. 6.2"... unbelievable.
@Johnny-xj5qu
@Johnny-xj5qu 2 жыл бұрын
Yes every top 10 player on this list could get easy buckets by physically overpowering their opponent, Except for Curry. Everything he does is a skill shot and there’s no easy buckets for him. It makes his accomplishments more amazing
@lupinder2058
@lupinder2058 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Johnny-xj5qu Plus they were not guarding them like they are guarding curry. Double teams, triple teams even in normal season game... Yes curry has big shooting threat but still his job is harder than them. He just made look it easy.
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 2 жыл бұрын
@@Johnny-xj5qu you have clearly never watched these guys play 🤣 are you saying they have no skill??? Or less than curry??? In shooting, and dribbling maybe but wb IQ, passing, Footwork, DEFENSE, rebounding, stealing. All are skills if I’m not mistaken 🤔
@Johnny-xj5qu
@Johnny-xj5qu 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamskai321 never said or implied any of those things. I’ve watched intently since the 80’s and these guys all have a lot of skill. What those guys have that Steph doesn’t is the ability to use physical prowess to overpower their opponents to get an easy bucket. They have skill and physicality. Steph only has skill…. there is no “easy” bucket for Steph. When has he ever backed a guy down, to turn and shoot an easy one?
@danieldenning9795
@danieldenning9795 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamskai321 He isn’t lying other players on the top 10 players have it a lot easier than curry and the comparison they make when he’s being compared just isn’t fair at all.
@tadarkeachak9278
@tadarkeachak9278 2 жыл бұрын
I think He got more fan in overseas than any other basketball player..the impact he have in a game is just 'lost of word's' .my GOAT 🐐🐐 TRUE INSPIRATION!! LOVE FROM INDIA...🇮🇳 WE LOVE YOU...
@KxngKUDA
@KxngKUDA 2 жыл бұрын
Steph curry is the ultimate version of Allen Iverson's effect on basketball culture as a whole. You know how even though AI never won a title, his place in basketball history is cemented based on his sheer skill, will, and relatability. In a land of giants, the fearless little guy stood tall and dominated. Not only did that appeal to every little kid of the 90's that saw him as their GOAT (me included) but he changed the very landscape of the league dynamic going forward. It became cool to be a scoring PG, while also being unapologetically true to yourself. Fast forward, and now Steph curry is a multiple time champion, MVP, all star, the greatest shooter ever, and undeniably a top 10 player. Yet, if you walked past him on the street, you might miss him. He goes against every conventional idea of being a dominant NBA player. In fact, his game went against all conventional wisdom, and ended up being a revolutionary staple of the status quo going forward. This is the peak of the AI influence
@Illapatayta
@Illapatayta 2 жыл бұрын
Steph is a top all-time top-10 player. I don't care if you have to squeeze like 12 or 13 people in there to keep everyone happy. He's in there somewhere. Sidenote: Curry used to 6'3". He's the only giant who keeps getting shorter as his story gets bigger.
@MyNameIsTwan
@MyNameIsTwan 11 ай бұрын
Whether you like it or not, Steph will indeed be in the top 5 all time when all said and done, and also the GOAT convo
@cjthelocal164
@cjthelocal164 2 жыл бұрын
Steph Curry has definitely made his way into the top 10. I mean. Look at the repertoire. After his 4th chip? And without a team of superstars like himself too? Yo he is definitely in the bottom half of the top 10 GOATS of the NBA right now. And what’s nuts is he still has a lot of the game to play so as you said he could very well climb that ladder. I say he wins two more chips and calls it a day. All he needs now is an Olympic gold medal. Which he woulda had already had he not gotten injured but I wouldn’t put it past him to get one in the next Olympics. And what’s even more insane is he didn’t even need one to get to the top 10 in the first place but the fact that we all know he can get one anyway? Just speaks on his skill and work ethic. He ain’t done
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 2 жыл бұрын
No he hasn’t, he has not beat any of the current top 10. He lacks final mvps’s, defensive accolades and couldn’t even out perform Kevin durant twice!! You cannot be a top 10 player when u have a 25% fmvp against guys that aren’t even top 10. He’s a phenomenal player, he’s changed the game with threes which impacts spcacing etc. He’s also the shooter of all time. Thing is people are way too high off his championship and love to blindly put him in the top 10. The current top 10 are the best of the best, and they have been undoubtedly great on both ends of the floor. Can’t say that about curry, I know he’s only 6’3, but these are the harsh expectations for top 10 players. I would be so direspctful to move any of them down. Curry is definitely 11-14.
@_MM03
@_MM03 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamskai321 Agreed. Stephen Curry is definitely Top 15. Anyone that has him in the Top 10 are living off recency bias. My Top 11 All-Time Greats in order… 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Magic Johnson 5. Tim Duncan 6. Wilt Chamberlain 7. Bill Russell 8. Larry Bird 9. Shaquille O’Neal 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 11. Kobe Bryant Tim & Wilt are interchangeable.. I go with Tim slightly ahead of Wilt because of his immediate success, tough comp, accolades & longevity
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 2 жыл бұрын
@@_MM03 omg, someone with a brain thank you!!!! Reading some of these takes is doing my head in haha
@mmelorade3147
@mmelorade3147 2 жыл бұрын
its really just opinion tbh. I feel like even if curry wasnt the greatest defender, he CHANGED the way the NBA gets their points; with the 3 pointers. But it all comes down to opinion and point of view
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 2 жыл бұрын
steph changed the way the game is played. hands down the goat
@Richxwolf
@Richxwolf 2 жыл бұрын
I hope I can back here in 2025 seeing Steph as a 7 time champ w 3FMVP. HE IS THE GOAT IS DO SO. But man. See you here 2025🙏🏽
@Siooc
@Siooc 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same tbh bro has a legit chance to win 3 more and some more finals mvps but if bro get 2 more with back to back mvps then I have home top 5 for sure maybe top 4
@SuperCarl513
@SuperCarl513 2 жыл бұрын
He'll be the goat no doubt if he can pull that off
@williamvn2928
@williamvn2928 2 жыл бұрын
I love Curry but you reaching much 😂 maybe 1 or 2 but not 3.
@dominickwilliams3757
@dominickwilliams3757 2 жыл бұрын
He could win 7 he still wouldn’t be the goat. U must not have seen jordan play. He’s obviously in a whole nother league from Steph
@danieldenning9795
@danieldenning9795 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominickwilliams3757 Everyone has seen Jordan play though. Steph would definitely be top 5 all time atleast if he won 6 though some might agree some might disagree.
@austintsang9934
@austintsang9934 Жыл бұрын
Curry CLEARS Magic. I will die on this hill
@brightlight2558
@brightlight2558 2 жыл бұрын
Had to replay the 5 times cause you were exactly on point Steph curry pretty much made history and you said it right I love it
@bernardjohnson6322
@bernardjohnson6322 2 жыл бұрын
I agree made history first player in nba. History to make top ten while playing absolutely no defense!!......congratulations!
@Saltyahole
@Saltyahole 2 жыл бұрын
@@bernardjohnson6322 he was the steals leader before, dipsh*t. Don’t be on here talking about how he “doesn’t play defense.”
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals 2 жыл бұрын
No way can LeBron be above Curry when Steph has beaten him three times in the Finals.
@antipro4483
@antipro4483 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals Curry is 0-1 against Kawhi in the finals who is better now? Kobe is 0-1 against Chauncey Billups and Ben Wallace are 1-0 against Kobe and Shaq.
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals 2 жыл бұрын
@@antipro4483 You're citing one-time, freak occurrences, but FOUR Finals is a documentable pattern. Curry and Lebron have faced off four times and Curry has won three, proving Curry is THREE TIMES BETTER THAN LEBRON. And anyone who's lost six Finals doesn't deserve Top 100, let alone Top Ten.
@zachnguyen6587
@zachnguyen6587 2 жыл бұрын
If the Warriors win 3 out of the next 4 championships like Draymond said (assuming Curry is on the team for each of them), I think Curry could be the GOAT.
@tsdpixel5860
@tsdpixel5860 2 жыл бұрын
If only Curry carries the team like he does now, im sure in the next 3 championship run, he will be the Goat.
@zachnguyen6587
@zachnguyen6587 2 жыл бұрын
@@tsdpixel5860 He doesn't necessarily need to carry his team as hard. The teams MJ had back in the day had a lot more supporting cast than the team Steph had as of now. I envision Curry coming off the bench for Poole one of those days, possibly in a championship run, but that shouldn't necessarily hurt his GOAT case.
@tsdpixel5860
@tsdpixel5860 2 жыл бұрын
@@zachnguyen6587 yes. But to get fmvp, he need to outshine all his teammates. Another 2-3 rings, top 3 sure. But not on Jordans level unless he get the fmvp. Even if he gets 5 rings by the end of his career, he will be a top 5 regardless. Im just glad we are witnessing history the last 2 decades. Kobe, lebron, Curry, duncan, the likes.
@rjmillercm
@rjmillercm 2 жыл бұрын
The disrespect for Wilt and Larry Bird
@b5g52
@b5g52 2 жыл бұрын
You are the best KZbinr ever I love warriors also!
@jonalynpaisan7256
@jonalynpaisan7256 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely agreed about your statistical analysis 💖 Curry is undeniably belongs to the group.
@FoxZoneYT
@FoxZoneYT 2 жыл бұрын
Mine is 1. MJ 2. Kobe 3. LeBron 4. Curry 5. Kareem 6. Magic 7. Bird 8. Shaq 9: Wilt 10: Bill Russel/Tim Duncan
@cescosa
@cescosa 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love curry I don’t think anyone can dethrone Michael Jordan
@quly9236
@quly9236 2 жыл бұрын
Someone will, it will take a long time but they will
@BigCobra191
@BigCobra191 2 жыл бұрын
As much truth your comment holds. It's really possible in a 100 years. Maybe nba won't be as popular but I'm putting my life atleast 5 players during those 100 years they will be better than jordan. If I could still be somehow alive near a 100 mark, I will remember.
@claxcz
@claxcz 2 жыл бұрын
Look at LeBron he made a case for GOAT convo even I am not a fan of his and as the league evolves we will see players like we see in 2k who we thought are funny and unlikely but it will be a possibility, imagine a player that has a size of giannis and has a shooting of stephen curry.
@MP-mb1iw
@MP-mb1iw 2 жыл бұрын
I will dethrone mj soon
@inidbil7277
@inidbil7277 2 жыл бұрын
@@claxcz you mean kd, at nearly 7 foot and can shoot lights out. His downfall was his decision making and lack of leadership but you're right, if kd had that mj, curry or magic type leadership and lead his team he could have 5 rings by now and we might be talking about him as the goat
@GiantSFaithfuL
@GiantSFaithfuL 2 жыл бұрын
Steph should have won Finals MVP in 2015. Love Iggy but that should have went to Curry.
@sean10474
@sean10474 2 жыл бұрын
Curry didn’t play well until game 3
@GiantSFaithfuL
@GiantSFaithfuL 2 жыл бұрын
@@sean10474 he averaged 26.2 ppg, 6.3 Apg and 5.3 rpg. 26 pts in game 1 and 19 in game 2.
@sean10474
@sean10474 2 жыл бұрын
@@GiantSFaithfuL go and watch the series again, he was so inefficient when it counted that the scrub Cav guard (I forgot his name) was getting undeserved credit. Don’t look at numbers watch the games.
@GiantSFaithfuL
@GiantSFaithfuL 2 жыл бұрын
@@sean10474 take off the hater glasses. It's clouding your perception of reality.
@jimmathioudakis6686
@jimmathioudakis6686 2 жыл бұрын
@@sean10474 What do you mean inefficient bro? He cut down the lead from 20 points to 3 points in game 3 and in game 2 he sent the game to overtime and also iggy averaged 16 points per game while steph averaged 26
@berserkscribe
@berserkscribe 2 жыл бұрын
Curry is in 5th place in my opinion, behind MJ, Jabbar, LeBron and Shaq
@zayscott1168
@zayscott1168 2 жыл бұрын
If steph ends his career with 7 rings he’s definitely getting ranked 3rd all time
@zachnguyen6587
@zachnguyen6587 2 жыл бұрын
At least. There's an argument he's the GOAT if he wins 7 rings.
@GreenEnvy.
@GreenEnvy. 2 жыл бұрын
You bet your ass he moves ahead of Lebron with 7 rings. Assuming Lebron retires with 4.
@zayscott1168
@zayscott1168 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreenEnvy. If LeBron retires with 4 steph would need at least 2 more finals mvps & A regular season mvp to move ahead LeBron
@Siooc
@Siooc 2 жыл бұрын
@@zayscott1168 the thing is bro has a real chance to do that 💀 which is crazy to say because Bron is a undefinable top 2 player all time
@zayscott1168
@zayscott1168 2 жыл бұрын
@@Siooc You right and it’ll still be hard to knock LeBron out the top 2 😂 it’s like LeBron trying to knock MJ off hard ash
@joshuamills9141
@joshuamills9141 2 жыл бұрын
Personally as a Warrior and Steph fan I'm finding it hard to place him on my list. I'm trying not to place him too high off of bias, but looking at all the careers and accolades of those guys, I have him at 8/9 debating whether him or Bird is 8.
@GotKarp
@GotKarp 2 жыл бұрын
I have him 11 or 12 personally
@kizzywock3387
@kizzywock3387 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.... I'm soo tired of them bypassing Steph like he's one dimensional. He has proven he can do it all..
@elyipierre2284
@elyipierre2284 2 жыл бұрын
High quality assessment and content. You’ve earned a sub from me
@proman0122
@proman0122 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just say how crazy it is that you predicted that the warriors would take the chip, you are honestly insane keep it up bc I still can’t believe you predicted the season.
@Anonymous-dr9ve
@Anonymous-dr9ve 2 жыл бұрын
1. MJ 2. Lebron 3. Kareem 4. Duncan 5. Kobe 6. Magic 7. Larry Bird 8. Curry 9. Wilt Chamberlain 10. Shaq So I honestly don’t know enough about Bill Russell and who he was up against Bird is my favorite player so I have some baes Duncan is just better than magic in my opinion and maybe matter than Kobe maybe not (It’s really close)
@slevinseven1811
@slevinseven1811 2 жыл бұрын
I can see the GSW winning again in the next season…but to three peat? that’s an incredibly hard feat to accomplish even with all their talent. From next season they are no longer coming in as the underdogs that everyone had written off, so the road to the chip will definitely be much harder, still I’m rooting for them all the way.
@blue-phoenix115
@blue-phoenix115 2 жыл бұрын
Like Draymond said: If they get everyone’s best, they will be the most prepared and locked in team come playoffs.
@TheRealMasonYoung
@TheRealMasonYoung 2 жыл бұрын
I hate that they had to lose GP2, glad he was able to get his bag though. He was impactful throughout the run.
@antoniouy9704
@antoniouy9704 2 жыл бұрын
Actually..right now..i don't see curry in the top ten
@anirudhranjan2934
@anirudhranjan2934 2 жыл бұрын
The good thing is, they won't try too hard in the regular season. I mean Kerr is content with Seed 3 or 4.... No need to exert too much pressure on players to get top 1 seed. And once they reach playoffs, ain't noone stopping them in the west. They gonna go to the finals for sure. WCF is just a piece of cake for Warriors.
@shap_sports_net
@shap_sports_net 2 жыл бұрын
Me to
@alouda-valorant9692
@alouda-valorant9692 2 жыл бұрын
Wade put Steph on Mt Rushmore. Ja Morant put him top 5. Iggy said Steph greatest PG. Remember, Wade was already a champion who then played with prime Lebron (on Mt Rushmore) and won more rings with him. He is putting Steph on Mt Rushmore with Lebron because he recognizes Steph is on that level. Magic is commonly considered on Mt Rushmore and people are starting to realize Steph is better than Magic. Steph is pretty much the GOAT offensively. Thinking Basketball did a vid on this. And he's a solid defender, despite the media narrative against this. Steph will eventually be in the GOAT conversation with most ppl, especially as advanced analytics continue to develop and are able to properly measure Steph's impact on his whole team's winning. I believe JimmyHighRoller did a vid showing that Steph has the highest % of added wins to his team than anyone in history. Lebron is #2, and MJ is #3. People will realize over time.
@oldsocrates
@oldsocrates 2 жыл бұрын
*"people are starting to realize Steph is better than Magic"* Um, what "people" are you referring to? Yourself???? FYI, this is why everybody can't stand Warriors fans. FYI, I love Steph too, but "people" don't think he's better than Magic (other than you). Magic has 5 rings. If Steph wins another one, we can have this conversation. If Steph wins 2 more, then it will be clear that he's better. You really need to get a grip man.
@antipro4483
@antipro4483 2 жыл бұрын
Players are the worst people to ask who is the Goat. There are Guys saying Dirk is top 5 and Kobe is the Goat.
@harryiguana1761
@harryiguana1761 2 жыл бұрын
One thing people always neglect is the IMPACT steph has - whether people say his shooting ruined the game and now that we see kids copying his far 3s, he has become a global icon and leader in the game of basketball - changing the 3 point and shooting as it is. Impact ties a huge part in where someone ranks.
@Rexlee1123
@Rexlee1123 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pushing out wilt and russell. No hate towards them but the reason why their accolades are virtually untouchable (11 rings, 50ppg, etc.) is because of the era they played in. It's not fair for the other players. So instead we put in hakeem (greatest defender of all time) and curry who is undisputedly the greatest shooter of all time.
@goldengil977
@goldengil977 2 жыл бұрын
No push out Shaq and wilt and in comes Hakeem and curry
@Rexlee1123
@Rexlee1123 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldengil977 Shaq has arguably and imo the greatest peak out of any player ever. He was virtually unstoppable. Only thing that sets him back was his work ethic like this video mentioned. I'm personally keeping him in there.
@goldengil977
@goldengil977 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rexlee1123 I can respect that I mean I think it's fair having shaq in there but I don't
@nolsoup
@nolsoup 2 жыл бұрын
My ranking: 10.Stephen Curry 9.Bill Russell 8.Tim Duncan 7. Wilt Chamberlain 6. Magic Johnson 5. Larry Bird 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Kobe Bryant 2. LeBron James 1. Micheal Jordan
@Danish_Khan1021
@Danish_Khan1021 2 жыл бұрын
Kareem and Magic are both #3 and #4 all time. Kobe is not greater than them.
@ArabianTaz
@ArabianTaz 2 жыл бұрын
for me its Mj , Bron , kareem , Curry , Kobe , Magic , dunkin , Russel , Shaq , Bird
@wynrie_x_senna
@wynrie_x_senna 2 жыл бұрын
That Idea of 7 rings is awesome and to put cherry on top -- Curry surpass that Diva Lebron --- Great video and theory -- Hope it'll come true!
@inidbil7277
@inidbil7277 2 жыл бұрын
He has already passed lebron's Co diva kd lol.
@aliciasplaytime6905
@aliciasplaytime6905 2 жыл бұрын
He ain’t passed lebron he at best passes bill and wilt
@inidbil7277
@inidbil7277 2 жыл бұрын
@@aliciasplaytime6905 championship wise he is tied with lebron. Instead of lebron trying to chase the ghost of mj, he need s to focus on making sure steph doesn't end up getting more rings than him in this era
@wynrie_x_senna
@wynrie_x_senna 2 жыл бұрын
@@inidbil7277 tbh -- i dont see KD nearly close to that top 10 -- for me KD is a role player not a star player -- that finals MVP in GS is just a token of appreciation from the 3 cores of warriors for a job Well done and just like Gray said -- They dont need him haha!
@inidbil7277
@inidbil7277 2 жыл бұрын
@@wynrie_x_senna agreed. He is a great role player notches above Wiggins. Great talent who can't lead a team to a chip, kinda like TMac
@cryogeneric
@cryogeneric 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Curry, I just don't know how many more championships this core has in them. Wiggens and Poole will both demand new contracts after next season, so beyond 2023 we'll need to see massive growth from their young players to off load some of the responsibility. Draymond is already showing signs of wear and tear. One more is definitely possible, but by no means easy. Two or three depend heavily on other factors.
@bernardjohnson6322
@bernardjohnson6322 2 жыл бұрын
Wow a curry fan with 🧠 brains! You know your basketball! Teach the others!
@warriorsfansince2004
@warriorsfansince2004 2 жыл бұрын
@@bernardjohnson6322 draymond will take a pay cut
@migueldiaz9273
@migueldiaz9273 2 жыл бұрын
yeah but with that first pick prospect anything is possible
@AhmedMohammed-tb2ho
@AhmedMohammed-tb2ho 2 жыл бұрын
I got step at 5 with my list being 1. Jordan 2. Lebron 3. Kareem Abdul jabbar 4. Kobe 5. Steph
@IvanGarcia-wh5vb
@IvanGarcia-wh5vb 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a basketball 🏀 fan since the ABA league-over 50 years-and I’ve never seen any player do the things Steph Curry does, not even Jordan. He has undoubtedly and forever change the game of baseball. No one has successfully been able to guard Steph-no one-not KD, not LeBraun, no one. I very much doubt that MJ would have been able to stop him. Moreover, MJ did not have the competition that Steph face in today’s NBA. So, please, show a little respect to Steph-and, recognize.
@NobleSainted
@NobleSainted 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! I post above before reading your comment and completely agree...and basically stated the same as you. I've been watching basketball 50+ years and never saw ANYONE receive the defensive attention Curry receives. And yes,... NOT. EVEN. JORDAN! Thank you sir for allowing me to find at least one person my age who SEES the truth in all of these 50 years of basketball fanship.
@lazyll_
@lazyll_ 2 жыл бұрын
MJ had a lot of competition
@happynunez2599
@happynunez2599 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that being the greatest isn’t about how much rings you got because that’s basically saying Robert Horry is top 10 but it’s all about stats and skills.
@jjcooler6961
@jjcooler6961 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have Steph at number 1 because of his impact and pure respect you havw to give him if he is playing
@thegoldenchildshow5855
@thegoldenchildshow5855 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@jjcooler6961
@jjcooler6961 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegoldenchildshow5855 smart, its simple really, 3's are harder to hit than 2's
@internetpeople6113
@internetpeople6113 2 жыл бұрын
On the scale of sheer hard work and determination to overcome physical disadvantage, I put him on top one.
@anirudhranjan2934
@anirudhranjan2934 2 жыл бұрын
Curry is my second favorite player after Kobe. And Kobe would Top 1 if we talk about hard work and determination. If we actually rate players based on that killer mentality, Kobe would be top 1 for sure.
@yxchuky
@yxchuky 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine Curry with 7 rings😳😳
@cliffm5559
@cliffm5559 2 жыл бұрын
MJ and Curry. Only players that changed the game to such a degree that they made fans out of people that didn't cheer for their teams. They also stayed and won it all on one team (refuse to count Wizards era). I could care less about GSW or the Bulls, nor San Fran or Chicago, but I always tuned in to watch a Bulls game when MJ was there and same for Curry. To a much lesser degree, I did with Kobe as well, but could never get around the fact that he played and looked like MJ. Curry will always be the first of his style. And Magic literally shouldn't be a comparison, he was 6'9"!
@ronald8664
@ronald8664 2 жыл бұрын
you cant make a legitimate top 10 today without Steph in it, you're just a hater if you don't have him top 10. if he wins any more accolades this season he's top 5 for me at least
@goldengil977
@goldengil977 2 жыл бұрын
Hes not top 5 he's 9th and can't be higher than 9th
@PenguinShake111
@PenguinShake111 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldengil977 he didnt say he was top 5. Also steph is higher than bill wilt and shaq bro 😂
@ilpaso3229
@ilpaso3229 2 жыл бұрын
Yea like how can the greatest shooter ever in a game where you shot the ball not be in your top10, you'd just hating frfr
@aliciasplaytime6905
@aliciasplaytime6905 2 жыл бұрын
@@PenguinShake111 true not Shaq but def bill wilt mj bron kareem magic bird Kobe Shaq Duncan curry hakeem
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 2 жыл бұрын
Lol not putting curry in your top 10 doesn’t make you a hater. I feel like you all need to get a grasp on the current top 10 because non of those players deserve to go below curry. He’s a phenomenal player, but he’s not better than Mj, LBJ, Kareem, Magic, Wilt, Bill, Tim Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, Larry (In no order) after this it’s debatable where curry stands. I feel like the FMVP has gotten to everyone heads, but y’all just ignore he lost it 3 times before to kd and Iggy lol. Whether his stats were good or not, or if he impacted the game more outside of the stat sheet, real top players would perform so much better than their teammates so it wouldn’t be close. There’s no excuse for losing it 3 times… plus he has no defensive accolades. Defense is half the game, it’s not only about shooting, fancy dribbling and creating space because of your shooting threat. Sure it’s important, but it’s definitely not everything. Curry has a chance to make it, but as of now he is not top 10, no way. Maybe 11-14 debatable
@victorcruz8993
@victorcruz8993 2 жыл бұрын
7rings...big possibility for Steph...go for it Steph...you and whole GSW team can do it 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Yawnzhub
@Yawnzhub 2 жыл бұрын
Not a chance lmao
@Tobi806
@Tobi806 2 жыл бұрын
There is one thing, which is not that often said about the greatness of Curry. And this is his personality....From what we can evaluate as fans, he is just the perfect team guy who will always find a way to win and make his team just be in a happy place. When do you see him talking about himself? He is always talking about the team. He is just different to LBJ, MJ or KB24. I mean Kobe and MJ´s work ethic are insane and definitely helped them winning, but I think Curry is just one of a kind with his attitude.
@imkurisuchan
@imkurisuchan 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan and Steph Curry both changes the game in their own eras. Both are great in their own way amd literally inspires and motivates people to be like them. With Steph Curry's career are all set and done, I do believe he'll be on the top 5 list along with MJ, LeBron, Kareem and Kobe.
@burntmashmellow3053
@burntmashmellow3053 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video I agree with just about everything here. My only thing I can’t see even if he wins let’s say 3 more, is getting past 4th all time. I think Jordan, Lebron, Kareem are untouchable for now. I’m a huge Steph fan and he has gotten better on defense but that would hold him back for me even if he were to win like 7
@specialknees6798
@specialknees6798 Жыл бұрын
If Curry won 7 rings, 3 of them after the age of 35 and got fmvps each time, he would easily be in the same category as MJ and Lebron. As much as I’d love to see that, no way in hell is that happening. I’ll cry tears of joy if he can win 1 more chip. And I think that’s enough to cement him at top 5 or even 4 depending on his personal performance. Even Kareem isn’t untouchable. Curry did have an unprecedented personal impact on the game of basketball after all.
@bluxonnitro
@bluxonnitro 2 жыл бұрын
curry #1 pg
@AbinTSam
@AbinTSam 2 жыл бұрын
I actually would take Shaq out before Wilt. And also, place Larry above Bill. And Kobe is definitely 2nd behind Michael, not Lebron. Infact I’ll put Michael, Kobe and Kareem as my 1, 2 and 3. Lebron should be 6th, Tim should be 4th and Magic should be 5th. Steph should be 7th, followed by Larry at 8th, Bill at 9th and Wilt at 10th.
@IbrahimLakeShow
@IbrahimLakeShow 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with that top 3 I have MJ, Kobe and Kareem in that order but there’s no way in hell I can take Shaq out of my top 10. Honestly, I have a hard time putting Steph in my top 10. He’s definitely just outside in the 11-12 spot in my opinion
@AbinTSam
@AbinTSam 2 жыл бұрын
@@IbrahimLakeShow i take Shaq out of top 10 coz of his work ethics. He was naturally gifted, but never unlocked his full potential!
@jasonmoukala8909
@jasonmoukala8909 Жыл бұрын
Kobe is not 2nd
@lightningsmokerXx
@lightningsmokerXx 2 жыл бұрын
Well : there are a few names you could have thrown in there. Hakeem Olajuwon possibly over Duncan , Moses Malone (3xmvp) , Elvin Hayes , might be a few others that are arguable. But that list is pretty close or close to good enough in terms of who are the top 10 , if you cut the modern era just based on they aren't done their career yet.
@lazyll_
@lazyll_ 2 жыл бұрын
Elvin Hayes is top 20
@tanjiroushirogane690
@tanjiroushirogane690 2 жыл бұрын
He included hakeem.. and hakeem although a better player, but he doesn't have the team accolades and many other aspects to meet duncan(top 6) or even bird(top 10).. he's placed right, at top 12 alltime.. great enough Other names u mentioned, they don't belong in the top 10 comparison and u know it..
@dougie953
@dougie953 2 жыл бұрын
I’m doing my own ranking right now and I have Curry just outside the top 10 at #11. I have no doubts he’ll be an undisputed top 10 players of all time by the end of his career though
@kenbutters121
@kenbutters121 2 жыл бұрын
If Steph finishes with 7 rings, he’s in the discussion. He has changed the game, more so, he may have changed the game for last time. This is more than likely how every generation will hoop from now on. The culture he is responsible for is unmatched, he makes the team with his unselfish nature, add it all up and it’s hard to dispute in my eyes - 7 rings = greatest to ever do it.
@carrastealth
@carrastealth 2 жыл бұрын
If Steph wins 7 rings and has 3 Finals MVPs along with everything else the argument can be made he's surpassed LeBron in the Top 10 during his own supposed era.
@thierryreindorf8864
@thierryreindorf8864 2 жыл бұрын
If Steph wins 7 rings he's top3 nvm "discussion" for top 10
@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070
@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no way he wins 7 rings.
@Rexlee1123
@Rexlee1123 2 жыл бұрын
@@carrastealth it’s crazy how it’s gonna take 7 rings for him to even surpass lebron lol
@j.deleon_13
@j.deleon_13 2 жыл бұрын
1 more ring + FMVP = officially top 7 2 more rings + 2 FMVP’s = top 5 3 more rings +3 FMVP’s = top 3 - He’ll have more than 4,000+ threes when it’s all said and done - He should be in the 30K club in 5-6 years - He’ll be officially the greatest PG ever - Greatest shooter ever - 2nd most impactful player to ever live (behind Jordan) - He’ll have 1 more MVP as well
@NewYorkCityGritty5
@NewYorkCityGritty5 2 жыл бұрын
Curry has fought like a champion 🏆 for everything he has won. He is THE MAN!! No one wanted to give him an inch in the start of his career. There will only be one Curry, he is one of a kind CLASS ACT who has already left his indelible mark on the game.
@jeffsuperawsome2581
@jeffsuperawsome2581 Жыл бұрын
That warriors 2023 championship aged well💀
@AnDreasDondo
@AnDreasDondo 2 жыл бұрын
I think this case going as perfect as it could would only get him to top 2-3-4 but never 1. Only because of his few Losses. That goes 4 everyone
@Saltyahole
@Saltyahole 2 жыл бұрын
6-1 in the finals (with 6 FMVPs, not that he will get THAT) is better than 6-0…
@glubzyoutube4374
@glubzyoutube4374 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saltyahole he is 4-2 tho
@ridge9052
@ridge9052 2 жыл бұрын
Facts! Jordan will never ever be replace as the best in history! Im a solid curry fan but mj being undefeated is just absurd
@Jordan-wd7vv
@Jordan-wd7vv 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a curry fan but curry is only 9/10 RIGHT NOW. I believe that at the end of his career he might be top five. But don’t count your chickens before hatch. However, His career is not done and he has a chance.
@francisjimenez6367
@francisjimenez6367 2 жыл бұрын
im a fan too but like u said dont count your chickens before the eggs hatch.. he still need to get more championships and man that will be awesome.
@Browntedy
@Browntedy 2 жыл бұрын
Who do u put before him ?
@Jordan-wd7vv
@Jordan-wd7vv 2 жыл бұрын
@@Browntedy mj, bron, kaj, magic, duncan, kobe, shaq are def ahead right now. wilt was insane but lacks a good pedigree, bird and curry are on the same level for me rn. i feel like he overlooks how dominant shaq was. basically couldnt be stopped. curry has higher scoring potential but shaq would prob be more consistent in his prime.
@KxngKUDA
@KxngKUDA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jordan-wd7vv he didn't overlook Shaq's dominance, but Shaq shortchanged himself and the rest of the league with his terrible work ethic. You do realize that the peak Shaq we all acknowledge is only about 4-5 years long right? Out of 18 years, and for almost a decade he was a journeyman. For as dominant as he was, he didn't give the game his all and it shows. If he had taken the game 100% seriously, he could/would have been the GOAT. But because he thought life was too easy for him, he'd party and eat and show up to work out of shape. It left enough of an opportunity to be overtaken. Steph is now on year 8-9 of being elite. Same amount of titles with no question as to whether or not he could win more, had a bigger impact on the league, and has never been questioned on his passion for the game. Steph has a similar level of dominance with none of the physical gifts Shaq has. Hard work beats talent, when talent fails to work hard.
@KxngKUDA
@KxngKUDA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jordan-wd7vv Wilt is overrated and underachieved, Steph is a shorter but better version of Larry bird, gives you all of his shooting and passing but at a quicker pace and better efficiency. And I'd rather iffy ankles that got stronger vs a bad back. I'd take Wilt out the top 10. For someone who made a name "imposing his will" on the league, it seemed like his Will to win was sorely lacking. There were many times where he prioritized individual success over the team. He was one of, if not, the first true "diva" of the league, only cares about his image and used his stats as leverage. And I'm not saying that trying to slander Wilt, but there's evidence and testament to that. You average 30 for a career but couldn't win more than twice? And those wins weren't even in his peak years that everyone lauds.
@adammorgan3402
@adammorgan3402 Жыл бұрын
Curry should have 3 final MVPs
@pinguthelightning
@pinguthelightning 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, im early
@amalpapali961
@amalpapali961 2 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on otto porter and gp2 leaving along with jta, cuz i dont think the warriors can repeat next yr now, those were solid key bench players (not jta)
@TEAMGETHELP
@TEAMGETHELP 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I was really not expecting go2 to go at all
@trippiefella1174
@trippiefella1174 2 жыл бұрын
Not porter yea he played a part in the chip but they still would’ve won but gp2 on the other hand he was a big part of it with he’s defense
@CmanWizard
@CmanWizard 2 жыл бұрын
Kuminga and moody will get better and play more minutes, and wiseman will be back, and warriors just picked up Donte DiVinceno who is a good shooter and good defense like gp2 and can create his own shot
@darkpower2021
@darkpower2021 2 жыл бұрын
dont worry warriors will sign solid bench players and the youger players will also improve
@darkpower2021
@darkpower2021 2 жыл бұрын
@SkyRocket donte is good, but who is pat?
@PandaRolph
@PandaRolph 2 жыл бұрын
Hey when you made your center list at 2:45 your forgot Kareem he’s one of the best
@David.Fit21
@David.Fit21 2 жыл бұрын
7:15 look at his fran and biceps you think he you make it today… the fact that he could not shoot and only score 11pts bc he was much taller than people back then
@jimmiller3734
@jimmiller3734 2 жыл бұрын
Steff, undoubtable changed the game, and he is always in motion, but he couldn't touch Jordan for defense and he is just not as exciting of a player! You say yourself that if this player continues to improve or that player gets more dominant, anything is possible, but when Jordan had the pieces to win championships, nobody needed to improve, they were set!!!
@alanduff1054
@alanduff1054 2 жыл бұрын
No the game change to better fit HIS skill set...
@mtaylor1237
@mtaylor1237 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t state a fact and then list an opinion as if it’s a fact too lol. If you think he’s not as exciting that your opinion, theirs someone else who thinks otherwise
@mondo.330
@mondo.330 2 жыл бұрын
I got Steph top 10, but not ahead of Shaq yet.. ppl forget the immediate impact Shaq had on the league he was basically a MVP candidate averaging 30/13 by year 2. Steph took a lot more time to develop & also needs more accolades before he’s ahead of Shaq all time imo.
@RonnieJamesOsbourne
@RonnieJamesOsbourne 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt he's in the top 10 after this chip and his FMVP. The real queston now is, when it's all said and done, can he be carved into MT. Rushmore.
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry he’s not. 11-14 is debatable. Crazy how people now can just disrespect the og top 10. They see Steph win one FMVP, look at his shooting, and how he changed the game and put him above people like Tim Duncan and Kobe LOOL I get curry is a generational player, he evolved the game, greatest shooter etc, but he has too many short comings that these ten don’t have. (1/4 Fmvp, defensive accolades, getting outplayed by other players) Criteria for top 10 is harsh, but that’s why it’s the top 10! Curry isn’t in yet and it’s crazy how everyone is so quick to just stick him up past some of the greats
@williamvn2928
@williamvn2928 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamskai321 just stop 😂 old head
@adamskai321
@adamskai321 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamvn2928 lol I’m 22. Getting mad curry fanboy omg he can shoot 3 from deep!!! 12 year old vibes from here haha gotta do your research son not just watch highlights 🤣🤣
@Saltyahole
@Saltyahole 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamskai321 I do believe that SCORING is the most important thing in all sports…and he does it more efficiently and prolifically than anyone.
@anvithkotha630
@anvithkotha630 2 жыл бұрын
The reasoning for putting Curry at 7th all-time was extremely flawed IMO. Earlier in the video he said that Bill Russel's championships should be put in context but when comparing Steph and Bird, he just said 4 is greater than 3 and moved on without even mentioning the fact that 2 of Steph's rings were on a superteam and that Bird had to face a stacked Lakers team in the finals every year, which was much stiffer competition than what Curry faced in the finals. With that kind of logic, you could put Steph ahead of Kobe by saying 2 MVPs are better than 1 without any additional context.
@roronoaDzoro1111
@roronoaDzoro1111 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t bird also play on a stacked team as well
@inidbil7277
@inidbil7277 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree with you at the same time. It's not fair to Bill Russell to minimize his achievements of 11 rings saying they had fewer teams or the game has changed or whatever, the fact is he competed against the best team in front of him and beat them 11 times. Bill and Wilt met 7 times in the finals and Wilt outperformed Bill in practically all aspects but Bill won more times than Wilt. It's a team sport not a 1 v 1 game. We can't equally minimize 3 of kobe's rings because he had Shaq or minimize Shaq's 4th ring cz DWade carried him or Duncan's 5th cz kawhi got the fmvp. We can't take away from mj cz he never won without scottie. Steph has 4 rings and even though kd got the 2 fmvp in '18 and '19, we all know that steph is was the engine that ran that team. Steph got robbed of the fmvp in '15 for sure and in '18 i believe steph and kd should have been co fmvp at least. Kd at 7' tall was the best scorer and had a mismatch against every defender on him. It is undeniable facts that kd played longer in the league than steph but didn't win a ring until he joined steph and has yet to win one after leaving the warriors meanwhile steph just won ring # 4.
@inidbil7277
@inidbil7277 2 жыл бұрын
@@roronoaDzoro1111 that's true, the only goat then is Dirk cz he won a ring with no other superstars lol. (Sorry Jason Kid)
@matthewbartlett1020
@matthewbartlett1020 Жыл бұрын
I think the most underrrated part about curry’s game is being able to make his teammates better. Look at klat dray Wiggins poole etc. He makes people around him better
@mentalasylumescapee6389
@mentalasylumescapee6389 Жыл бұрын
well obviously you missed this years playoffs -.-
@empiricalpurity
@empiricalpurity 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s hoping Steph will continue to add to his legacy. I personally don’t think Lebron is 2nd on the all time list. I have him 4th behind Jordan, Kareem, and Magic. Steph is 6th behind Kobe.
@Unanimouseditz
@Unanimouseditz 2 жыл бұрын
Lebron behind magic?
@Robin-cw5zu
@Robin-cw5zu 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen as #7 just like his draft number. Let’s push that to #1 where he truly belongs.
@_M....
@_M.... 2 жыл бұрын
Curry is top 10 and he deserves to get his flowers. he has been the most influential player of this era and the most influential player since MJ. sorry, but it's true. nobody else has literally changed the game fundamentally like him in this era. and to be clear, MJ is the GOAT and still way clear of Lebron. the media created that debate and won't let it go so now a meritless conversation has stuck in everyone's head forever.
@iCloud12
@iCloud12 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video addressing the GP2 and Otto trades? Like how the warriors are still title contenders without them?
@th3omst
@th3omst 2 жыл бұрын
Here is my list, tell me your thoughts guys: 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 9. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Kobe Bryant 7. Stephen Curry 6. Larry Bird 5. Tim Duncan 4. Magic Johnson 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 2. Lebron James 1. Michael Jordan
@Jay__Legend
@Jay__Legend 2 жыл бұрын
Kobe at 8 and Steph at 7? You trippin hard bro
@th3omst
@th3omst 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jay__Legend that's just my opinion bro chill out. In my opininion Kobe is overrated but we can have different opinions
@Saltyahole
@Saltyahole 2 жыл бұрын
I got him above bird and Duncan…below Kobe and Magic, for now…
@th3omst
@th3omst 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saltyahole you could argue for bird but I do not think that curry is on Duncan's level yet
@syzorst
@syzorst 2 жыл бұрын
@@th3omst Curry is not on Bird's level yet either.
@scottb3034
@scottb3034 Жыл бұрын
He's not top 10, he's top 15 though. Also 7 rings but only 3 FMVPS would not leap him past jordan because he was 6 for 6 in that. Every championship he wins without FMVP just makes it so he has to win more to catch up. He'd have to have 8 or 9 rings to pass Jordan with the lack of Finals MVPs.
@pizzaenthusiast7116
@pizzaenthusiast7116 2 жыл бұрын
I think Curry is gonna retire with 6 rings and 3 FMVP's. If he does that he'll be the 2nd best player behind MJ.
@andrewjenkins5867
@andrewjenkins5867 2 жыл бұрын
No cap Curry can be the GOAT
@tidalblitzN7
@tidalblitzN7 Жыл бұрын
Everyone on the top 10 list has multiple all-defense teams. YOU CANNOT BE ON THE LIST WITHOUT BEING EXCELLENT AT INDIVIDUAL DEFENSE. period.
@lukaszepesi
@lukaszepesi 2 жыл бұрын
What speaks against Lebron imo is how he mortgaged the future of the teams he went to to win and then left and Miami sucked for 5 years and still hasn't fully recovered the lack of depth is pretty evident. Also he didn't make his teammates better, they were just stand ins for the most part. I do my thing and pass you the ball and you better do your job that's what his style of play is. But Lebron physically is more gifted and his solo impact on a game is bigger. I personally prefer the leadership and teamplay and getting the most out of every teammate approach. It's hard to compare players intangibles but with Steph this is such a big part of his greatness and why he should be a top 10 player that leaving it out is just dishonest imo. Most players who win a lot have to lead in some way but this Golden State team is special even compared to all time great teams. If Steph does actually win 6 rings I think it would be disrespectful to keep Lebron ahead of him.
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals 2 жыл бұрын
No way can LeBron be above Curry when Steph has beaten him three times in the Finals.
@notafanboy3078
@notafanboy3078 2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely push out Wilt out of my top 10 list too. If it's the all time great athletes in the NBA, Wilt would rank top 1.
@KillaMusiktv1BlACKEYEDCORN
@KillaMusiktv1BlACKEYEDCORN 2 жыл бұрын
So your all-time ranking goes by ring count I’m assuming.
@notafanboy3078
@notafanboy3078 2 жыл бұрын
@@KillaMusiktv1BlACKEYEDCORN It's a lot of things but mostly rings, yes.
@KillaMusiktv1BlACKEYEDCORN
@KillaMusiktv1BlACKEYEDCORN 2 жыл бұрын
@@notafanboy3078 It has to be rings. Wilt dominates every stat and accolades most of the players never touched. When has Steph, Kobe etc won 7x scoring titles, 4 MVPs, and led the league in assists. They don’t avg more points, rebounds, assists then Wilt so it would have to be because of the rings, which they won half of it with Superstars like Shaq and KD, when Wilt had to go against 8 Hofs in Celtics.
@notafanboy3078
@notafanboy3078 2 жыл бұрын
@@KillaMusiktv1BlACKEYEDCORN Which is true. After all, basketball is a team sport so there is no definitive top 10 greatest players of all time. All is based on opinion.
@jarredboi9920
@jarredboi9920 2 жыл бұрын
Stephen Curry has joined the lobby Steph: yo whose spot am i talking?
@cnelsonlv99
@cnelsonlv99 2 жыл бұрын
9:40 No! He could have 15 rings, it won't put him ahead of Jordan, because it's NOT ALL ABOUT RINGS! Jordan played the game better than anybody else who ever played it, and that is simply an irrefutable statement! Curry is great, but he has never reached that level, and neither has anyone else.
@DaddyAZTL
@DaddyAZTL 2 жыл бұрын
" Jordan played the game better than anybody else who ever played it" if curry wins 15 rings wouldnt that show his play style wins more and is therefore the best type of playstyle? mj the best individual? sure . best team player in a team sport? steph might one up him.
@svk_5104
@svk_5104 2 жыл бұрын
If he wins 2 more rings and 2 FMVPs there’s definitely an argument for him as the 2nd greatest over Lebron. That’s why Lebron is trying to play with him so he can’t pass him in rings😂
@camdoesitall
@camdoesitall 2 жыл бұрын
Nooooo, no defensive skills near lebrons, he doesn’t have the ability to carry a team to the finals by himself he’ll never surpass Bron in that factor I’m sorry and the longevity…It’s getting ridiculous, Curry is top 10 I won’t argue that, he can take Russell’s spot but Curry on any other team would not have four rings…And yet if he wins two more he’s number 2 for y’all?? Stop it it’ll have to be on the strength of potentially the 2nd greatest shooter all time when he’s done and a Dennis Rod reincarnation in draymond who can occasionally shoot the ball…The Curry hype is crazy because bill isn’t top 3 for his rings? Curry would have to do more to be over Bron
@johng4099
@johng4099 2 жыл бұрын
How is Lebron ahead of Kareem then though? Kareem has more rings, more Season MVPs, more scoring titles & more All-Defensive teams. Kareem also has a greater Finals record of 6-4 compared to Lebron’s 4-6.
@camdoesitall
@camdoesitall 2 жыл бұрын
@@johng4099 Because of Lebrons ability to dominate and carry his teams, regardless of people thinking he needs a super team…He’s been the best player on every team he’s on, taking players that have no business in the finals to the finals and facing other developed super teams that didn’t need to get picked up in trades or free agency…He’s face Tim, and that squad in 07 and later on everyone was talented having a top 10 player arguably and then a top 20 where ever you put Leonard…Them GSW? The only one that was muffed was the mavs and yet Dirk is also consider a top 20 to some people..It’s his dominance that puts him over Kareem for me because no matter where he was it was no question that can he get to the finals…It was can he win? Many people don’t even sniff the finals in their career
@svk_5104
@svk_5104 2 жыл бұрын
@@camdoesitall Yeah but Lebron was carrying teams to the finals early in his career because the east was absolutely dog shit. He wouldn’t have gotten out of the west with those early Cavs teams. He cannot carry a team like that to Finals anymore. And it wouldn’t just be because of the total number rings. Yes, Lebron is a better defender but he has numerous years where his defense was trash and Steph has became a better defender, plus Lebron is a 6’9 specimen, if he wasn’t a better defender than a 6’3 point guard than he’d have some serious problems. If you really look at everything(this would be if Steph got a couple more rings and FMVPs), you absolutely can make the argument for Steph over Lebron. People just don’t want to accept that. He would have 6 rings, 3FMVPs, 2 regular season MVPs(one being the only unanimous one ever), is the greatest shooter of all time, changed the entire way the game is played, he’s the face and leader of one of the greatest dynasties in NBA history plus all the different shooting records he holds. And the whole not being able to carry a team is BS. He effects winning for his team more than any other player in the NBA. The warriors win something like 35% more games when Curry is playing. That’s the highest percentage out of any player. The argument would 100% be there
@camdoesitall
@camdoesitall 2 жыл бұрын
@@svk_5104 I understand your argument, it can be argued that the East wasn’t bad,Bron was just that good it’s many arguments to your points and mine…The Celtics team in the finals is almost the same team bron beat all I’m saying is curry getting 2 more with GS won’t put him at 2 maybe top 5 however the backlash and weight Bron has carried to get to 2 for most of yall curry hasn’t done however we’ll see what happens
@jeffday665
@jeffday665 Жыл бұрын
Honestly people need to stop doing all time player lists. It should be all time positions. A center doesn’t really do what a point does and a point doesn’t really do what a center does. I still have magic and Stockton over curry any day of the week I’m sorry. Crazy shooting is great but when you got a sneaky player who puts up 8-11 16 something assists and who knows how many steals?
@bricknell1820
@bricknell1820 2 жыл бұрын
The Chef single handedly changed the game, he deserves a spot here even higher by the time he's done
@johncraig4820
@johncraig4820 2 жыл бұрын
1. Kevin Durant deserves to be in the conversation. 2. Wilt is still the only center to lead the league in assists. A beautiful fade and a dominant blocker. He's the best center to play the game and would be dominant in any era.
@nobodyaskedbut
@nobodyaskedbut Жыл бұрын
This is just one measure of how good Oscar was. Seasons at least 50 games played. At least: 30.0 PPG 6X; 10.0 APG 5X; 10.0 RPG 3X; .500 FG% 3X; .850 FT% 4X. All other players in NBA history had at least TWO 0X among these 5 category levels. His triple double seasons were not even in his top 5 all-time accomplishments. Uninformed know-nothings are the ones who have saddled him with all that nonsense. In my 65 years of watching basketball he is still the greatest player I've ever seen.
@davemmar
@davemmar 2 жыл бұрын
Wilt would bury Shaquille. He didn’t have the team or the championships, but he had game. It’s a shame that many of you never watched Wilt but think a highlight reel tells you all you need to know. Wilt could ease up because he was tired or even bored, but try and stop him when he was on and you will lose. Le Bron recruited or joined the team members he needed to win championships, but if you give Wilt or any of those other players the option to choose they would have won more than LeBron. LeBron has skills and he scores like crazy but by himself he cannot win. The one time he showed a true awareness of the game was when he had Draymond Green suspended from game 6 and that took away the Warriors’ momentum.
@klarenejay
@klarenejay 11 ай бұрын
That’s what Shaq was saying
@ivinolove3960
@ivinolove3960 2 жыл бұрын
Hakeem Olaijuwon, never got the credit he deserved:( He should be top 10, in the ages of big man he dominated them all!
@Sf75178
@Sf75178 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
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