The unfortunate consequences of ignoring the warning signs

[@User_ML907]

Your knowlege and explanation are far best than all medical parctionners and doctors I know. You broke it down clearly and simply.

[@The_Aging_Warrior]

Thanks, but keep in mind: I'm not any kind of an expert. I'm just an educated layman trying to put out some (hopefully) reasonable information.

[@spooniegee]

Great video Rob. I am 54 and love chasing calisthenic goals. I am also flirting with shoulder issues. Mostly clicking and pain after tracing muscle ups. Keep up the good work and your vids.

[@The_Aging_Warrior]

Thanks, and be careful with it. Check out my latest videos if you want to see some of the potential consequences.

[@ItsLotto]

Keep us updated, I have a labrum tear at age 20 from a basketball game and this shit is not easy to get over 😭 20 weeks I partially torn it, couldnt move my arms for a week. Magical my strength and range of motion came back. Instead of going to the doc, like a fool I ccontinued high rep calisthenics and ruined my arm. Arm slowly got weaker. Fast forward to today, ive gotten better after being released from physical therapy. Doing pull ups and lifting weights, but I am far from 100% my still arm feels off and my muscle loss hasn’t came back. Overall compared to the beginning ive made a lot of progress. No surgery btw

[@The_Aging_Warrior]

Thanks for sharing! I hope you get all the way better, and good job on the progress you've made so far. Yeah, I feel a little like you: I kept training long after I probably should have stopped. I'll definitely report as I go...

[@superluci58]

It's not a shit, you are causing it. The joint does his job but with a bad fuel it turns you back what you gave it.

[@eysteinskjlsvik1736]

Hi, I'm a 50 year old calisthenics athlete. My shoulder problems is similar to yours. It started from doing planche pushups some years ago. For about a year ago it got worse when I did pelican pushups. The pain was mainly related to the long head of the biceps. I have managed to nearly become painfree by doing the following: rotator cuff exercises with bands and light weights strenghtening both infraspinatus and subscapularis. But what really helped the most was shoulder flexion negatives I got better quickly when I started these and loaded progressingly heavier weights when my tendon tolerated it. I also loaded my biceps tendons by doing high double biceps curls in a double cable crossover machine.

[@The_Aging_Warrior]

Thanks! I'm gonna think about this.

[@superluci58]

Do you eat plants? Lots of fruits and veggies? Cereals? Legumes?

[@The_Aging_Warrior]

@@superluci58 Yes to all.

[@superluci58]

@@The_Aging_Warrior To all? what do you mean? You eat all of those? All those plants?

[@superluci58]

Rotatory cuff banded exercises are awful for the joints. I did that stuff as well and I felt horrible, only more inflammations. Again doesn't quit the cause..

[@HybridGym]

Interesting analysis; if anyone can self heal it will be you, with your dedication and research skills. However, I'd personally rather avoid surgery at all costs - even if it costs you the planch - as it can lead to so many new problems in my experience and you could remap your ambitions in a slightly different, less shoulder, direction.

[@The_Aging_Warrior]

Thanks - yeah, I definitely want to avoid surgery. If my choice was surgery+planche, or no surgery/no planche, I would not have surgery.

[@HybridGym]

@@The_Aging_Warrior I wonder if skin the cat, German hang, ring rows would help as they might apply the opposite force to the shoulder?

[@The_Aging_Warrior]

@@HybridGym Well, I think my injuries are too much for that sort of thing (although I have been doing ring rows). There are specific exercises to rehab the rotator cuff - they're done with bands or small dumbbells. I have a feeling I'm going to have to stop everything and just do those exercises for awhile. But I'm waiting until I can see the physical therapist...

[@superluci58]

@@The_Aging_Warrior The physical therapist won't fix anything, doesn't quit the cause. You all guys should quit quit not add add..

[@The_Aging_Warrior]

@@superluci58 Well, actually the physical seems to have worked really well. My right shoulder seems to be almost completely recovered.