Also will say it again. They should NOT have had the lip sync at the finale. They should have had it be the multi star challenge. Have the queens on a lip sync tournament and every win gives you a star. 1 queen would get 3, 1 would get 2 and two more would get one each. Then in the finale do a variety NOT a talent show where each queen brings her own act (showing what they actually do to entertain) and they are all judged on full portfolio. I like lip syncs but can we please stop making them so important? So many queens never do that kind of performance in their act.
@krissykriss3282 жыл бұрын
I like what they did on season 14 , at the finale they each did their own performance,,, I agree with you that AS7 ended really bad (not the outcome, but the lip sync for the crown! ) it made zero sense!
@alaly10272 жыл бұрын
Lip syncing for the crown needs to stop period. Because it just creates controversy (which is why they do it). I've personally never liked it since it started in S9. It makes no sense that a lip sync (that isn't even rotten) should make your performance all season a moot point because someone **at the end** can out stunt you or has better rhythm. It has led to queens who did not do better in the competition winning the title multiple times. And we know the track record matters to the fan base and Ru's decision. Of course Monet, Shea and Yvie won their lip syncs in the finale. But it makes WAY more sense in an all winners season especially, to grade on track record. They're all fan faves or have a following. So regardless of blocking, Jinkx had 6 challenge wins. It would be a tough sell to have queens that had 2-4 less wins beat her. I would have preferred a S7/S8 thing when they do their own performance, and it have no real bearing on who should win, because... report card. And we get to see former queens be great performing the songs they want, their way. They also shouldn't have had a lip sync for the crown because they knew from who they cast that most of the cast are not "electrifying" lip syncers. Shea, Monet and Yvie (along with Sonique and you could possibly add Bob) are the only winners who are great at it...in the entire American franchise. You could either edit the final lip syncs to death...or don't say a lip sync is the condition to win. If they would have went by win totals they would have had a clear top three of Trinity, Monet and Jinkx. The twist could have been that those three vote for the fourth queen to be in the finale. They can either be "fair" and give to Viv (because beside her everyone but Yvie had two stars from wins). Or they could strategize and put someone in the top four with them that wouldn't be a good contender for the crown, not only because of track record. But maybe they also aren't known for their performances. Or there be a lollaparuza for fourth. Because with two lip sync battles we have the fifth place queen winning money, but 2 & 3 finalists get nothing.
@casswashwash1070 Жыл бұрын
@@krissykriss328 It was still bad because jinx still doesnt have the stars that monet had
@brattygamer8939 Жыл бұрын
@@casswashwash1070 Only because of blocks though. If you go by who won the challenges and ignore blocking stars and ignore the stars that were given to them for basically free (not for winning challenges) Jinx was the clear front runner.
@indigobeaumont1246 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm months late but OMGGG I *LOVE* your idea! That definitely should've been how the last 2 episodes played out!
@floating_whale43912 жыл бұрын
I'm a Yvie fan, so I'm definitely biased, but I really feel like she was undervalued in the competition and deserved a bit more recognition
@ccdaly25612 жыл бұрын
And I feel bad for Viv on Snatch Game. Her Patsy left a lot to be desired, but her Nan was perfection. Unfortunately most American audiences have never seen The Catharine Tate Show, and that included the judges. And considering Viv's complaints about things getting cut, I'm not surprised I can't find a GIF to share of her screaming "WHAT A FUCKING LIBERTY"
@NoFirstNoLastName2 жыл бұрын
Yea her Catherine Tate was perfection, but it was a very cultural reference.
@handsoaphandsoap2 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure, but I also don’t think her jokes really landed ir were even that funny (though her good jokes might’ve been cut as you said). It was a great impression but Snatch Game isn’t really about the impression of it all, it’s more about parodying someone and bringing out the humor of the character, exhibit A: Jaida’s Prince killing despite her impression being completely off base.
@georgemcgukin55762 жыл бұрын
I loved the Catherine tate character is was so funny to me and I couldn’t understand why they didn’t laugh then I remembered I’m British
@BurnDaDebt2 жыл бұрын
The blatant downplaying of the Viv slaying most of the season while over playing fan favs is wild. I mean the Viv was miles better than everyone bellow Monet in Snatch Game, but pop off I guess
@abigailo4661 Жыл бұрын
Im convinced that Americans downplayed Viv because she's British not American. I suppose as a British person I understood her humour more and so am a bit biased but still
@michaeltonus38882 жыл бұрын
All I have to say about Shea's look from the second design challenge is: You know, they sing a song that goes like this "Pink stockings, orange shoes, shouldn't be allowed in the chuUuUuUuUrch."
@gamerhead25842 жыл бұрын
I think jadai kept her look simple because of the fabric shes smart remember they chose there looks she new the fabric would be the focal point so she purposely kept it simple I think
@hawkwing8840 Жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about how Jinkx and Monét where the funniest in the “Santa’s School for Girls” acting challenge, and neither of them where on the top? 😵💫
@magizatanna33025 ай бұрын
cause Viv was so much better than Jinkx in that challenge
@comixbyben2 жыл бұрын
Viv was definitely under-edited in snatch game
@Cameron-xx7fp2 жыл бұрын
Viv at 7 for snatch game is so confusing lmaooo whatttt from a British pov her nan was so good. She was at least 5th
@samc7492 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY!! I was so disappointed with how little we got shown of her Catherine Tate Nan character cause the look was IDENTICAL 😔
@HarveyWithACrown2 жыл бұрын
But she chose 2 characters which were already characters which, in my book, puts her lower.
@MyKeyMoonShine2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. She chose two comedy characters but didn't do them nearly as well as those who originally did them. The nan was the better of the two but her Patsy was actually kind of bad. She's a fantastic impersonator but she just missed the mark with actually making it funny and standing out.
@lemqnshark2 жыл бұрын
@@HarveyWithACrown huh
@c2knino7852 жыл бұрын
I don’t get how people like sheas second design look. The bottom half is literally just pink leggings and the most boring thing ever. The top half wasn’t enough for it be in the top or even high placement. I’d place her like 5th out of the bunch
@troythompson79372 жыл бұрын
I agree I hate the bottom half of that look so much it looks so disconnected from the top half
@Javii12 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who recognizes Monét's incredible performance throughout the season. The fandom acts like Jinkx was the only contender for the crown.
@anavictorianormie2 жыл бұрын
Her fandom. And honestly, all this editing on the lipsync against Monét is because it was 130k likes on Team She-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Criticized post against 50k likes on Team Monét. They could have easily given her the crown.
@Javii12 жыл бұрын
@@anavictorianormie spilled 😶
@benjaminmorales85542 жыл бұрын
yeah, monet and trinity also dominated, and dominated different type of challenges, not just comedy
@Octobris2 жыл бұрын
Here's the problem with the fans though: they have no idea how to watch this show without comparing the queens. Especially in a winners season it seems totally wrong to do that. I'm here to support your claim - Monet not only surprised me after not-so-great showing in AS4, but also made me fall in love with her again. She was incredible in AS7. At the same time Jinkx was an undeniable multitalented force and should never be discredited. Let's hold the producers accountable for any shenanigans on this show for once.
@scarynoise9962 жыл бұрын
Litterally they act like jinhx is the only stand out when we had the Vivienne Monet and trinity idk why she’s so favored by the fandom I love her but they are insane over her
@ccdaly25612 жыл бұрын
I am a Jinkx stan. But I still think she lost more lipsyncs than she won, and that the top two for Fairytale Justice should've been Viv and Yvie.
@Jkbn1512 Жыл бұрын
I do personally believe that Shea should’ve won the Draguation speeches and the 2nd design challenge. The prompt was draguation, and she really leaned into the emotional aspect of it while still having great one liners. Jinkx was great but a witch talking abt being hit by a car is not talking abt college experience or something along those lines. Same could be said for Yvie, either one would have worked for me. And in the design challenge, Shea MADE her own fabric and those pants were incredibly made and they fit to perfection. She rly sold the fantasy on the runway giving us model esque vibes. Jaida was great but it was nothing we hadn’t seen before and I do think the proportions on Sheas were generally better overall. This isn’t taking away from how great all of them were, but Shea deserved more recognition in the season.
@ElliotsPlanet Жыл бұрын
Completely Agree!
@Jack-oq1bf2 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with this! Monet's shine really was dampened this season so that Jinx could be crowned which was so unnecessary lol
@sambyford12 жыл бұрын
Your critique did Jaida’s legendary look is insane, like really missed the mark
@diasophia02072 жыл бұрын
i can’t believe you robbed roger more than the show did
@Mendejito2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one who would give Monet this track record she did so damn well this season and Jinkx’s fans try and act she she was sub par
@Char-sf4cg2 жыл бұрын
Raja’s Titanic Verse is like Mayhem’s Talent Show- it’s so bad it’s good and hilarious Raja’s verse I just 😂
@hawkwing8840 Жыл бұрын
I find it so funny that you’re arguing as to why Shea should be in the Top 2 for the second design challenge instead of Jaida, when I personally agree with the original placement; but think Shea should’ve been in the Top 2 for the first design challenge instead of Jaida… All 3 of Shea’s looks where great and fit the prompt + her final wedding gown was ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUSLY STUNNING (like I would get married in that dress) and definitely was better than her AS5 wedding outfit, while Jaida’s looks where very good but she lost me at her “Red bag lady” look mostly cuz the prompt is so stupid and her final look isn’t at the same level as Shea and Trinity’s. As with the second design challenge… LISTEN- I was desperate at that point because Shea hadn’t won more stars and REALLY wanted her to be in the Top 2 [and honestly thought she was gonna be cuz her and Trinity walked the runway before Jaida] but as soon as Jaida walked out I cursed very loudly and instantly admitted to myself that Jaida deserved to be in the top over Shea, cuz Shea’s outfit just feels like it’s missing something in the bottom half and the plain pink thights going into the clear orange shoes SICKENS me, while Jaida looked STUNNING and was one of the only ones that you can actually tell which RuPaul look she’s referencing/recreating
@doomguy6762 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who hates Shea's pink look in that design challenge? For me its the bottom, you have this fun and cute leopard print on the top ruffels and just hot pink NOTHING on the bottom. its not even the same color of pink as the ruffles. And the orange shoes with it? I hate it. From the top up, great beautiful, from the bottom down, ugly and bland and I hate it.
@murraypeat28712 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Jinkx but I think they’re going to really regret not crowning Monet from a marketing standpoint, purely because Monet does EVERYTHING for the drag Racerace franchise. Monet has hosted pit stop, done portrait for a queen, both season of secret celebrity, all drag cons and also does drag race run tours. Whereas Jinkx, does tours with Dela which aren’t run by Drag race, so currently instead of the ‘Queen Of All Queens Title’ being used to describe someone who is constantly around and making drag race content, it’s being used to introduce a queen (a very talented) at a tour that isn’t even run by drag race xx
@andrewductoc98252 жыл бұрын
Right?! I thought the same thing, you would think they’d want the girl that died all tours and publicity for the show. Plus no offense to Jinkx but although Jinkx has more fans; Monét attracts mainstream media.
@diabetich0e2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewductoc9825 lol I told myself the week before the finale that Monet deserves to win cause she talks and works with Drag Race alot (and she even had THE Rupaul on her talk show)
@murraypeat28712 жыл бұрын
@@andrewductoc9825 I mean Monet is a queen that has become bigger than just a drag race queen, Anne Bloody Hathaway talks about her on late night talk shows 🤣
@andrewductoc98252 жыл бұрын
@@murraypeat2871 I means that’s why I thought they would want someone who I can honestly see taking the show to a bigger audience. 🤷🏽♂️
@JunnieJK2 жыл бұрын
These placements and this outcome really align with my fantasy!✨
@user-vz2ey4we1m2 жыл бұрын
snatch game is judged on two different levels - how funny they are and how good an impersonation they do. if you do at least one of these things you'll likely be safe, but when queens can do both it's what sets them apart. that's why i think raja should have won instead of trinity, she met both the criteria whereas trinity's original character meant she didn't have to worry about impersonation when she played satan 🤷
@rdr197310 ай бұрын
I disagree with every ranking anyone has ever done of the talent show.
@danico3070 Жыл бұрын
Shea was for me one of the best on the Fairy Tale Justice. She was like a Bear Karen, sort of. And when she said "*gasp* your honoor" I quote that all the time. And Trinity was so bad!! It wasn't a fully realized character, she was even laughing out of character at the beginning.
@KindConsiderations2 жыл бұрын
I think for episode 12 instead of that being the finale episode 12 could’ve been the oh here’s your last chance to get as many stars as possible with a lip-synch tournament. The queens that win a lip-synch would earn a star so there is a potential of earning up to three but of course they have to work for it. Which in this case we would use the original placements from the episode and went but tweak it where Monet and Yvie win and they go against each other. And the possible lip-synch I think Monet would get it just for the storyline reason and to remind everyone that she’s a serious contender for the crown. In this scenario Raja, Jinx earn 1 star, Yvie earns 2, and Monet earns 3 additional stars. The tie breaker between Viv, Shae, Jinx, Jaida, and Yvie is instead broken via a rigged wheel where the queens with the best track record advance (aka Jinx, Viv, and Shae) Episode 13 (which doesn’t exist but in this hypothetical does now) and it would be similar to the season 13 and 14 grand finale but the queens that not make it to the top four get to fight to become the “ queen of all fashion” with a ball in between the top 4 performances. Raja wins as the queen of all fashion (redeeming her missteps in the ball). Jinx and Monet are selected as the final two over the Viv and Shae, but Jinx still wins as queen of all queens in a final lip sync to “the winner takes it all” by Cher against Monet. oh and Jaida wins Queen of all Congeniality.
@pengoschwortz47342 жыл бұрын
40:20 they honestly should have done 2 stars for SG One for the 2 winners of each SG and then the top 2 overall lip sync. Could spread out the stars more. Jinkx gets 2, Raja gets 1, TTT gets blocked and then we have TTT and Jinkx in the lip sync
@LydiaReneeDarling Жыл бұрын
Totally agree and very much with Monet ranking first
@aliar862 жыл бұрын
Your point about Jaida's Legendary legend design challenge is one of the dumbest takes on fashion and designing I have ever heard in my entire life. Mostly because you are pretending you know anything about it.
@LanguageNerdsofia_ Жыл бұрын
Yvie is a GREAT composer. Her rhymes are really creative if you check her songs.
@haziepacheco2 жыл бұрын
Shea won the judas lipsync. She’s tweeted shea skated around jinx and even Viv straight up told jinxx she lost the lipsync.
@edrangelion2 жыл бұрын
i really don’t think jinkx should have won the tiktok challenge. she simply didn’t excel in what was required, it wasn’t a comedy challenge so for me it is like if lala ri won the bag ball because she was funny. also i think it was specially unfair since two other queens that weren’t highlighted as much in the season did so much better and deserved so badly another star for their performance (yvie and shea). i think jinkx is amazing but for me it seemed like she never really needed to stand out to win stuff as long as she was being funny and i don’t think that is fair.
@zelgadisgreywolf83132 жыл бұрын
Ru said that couple times herself in that challange - that it was a branding challenge, not a dance one. They were supposed to make dance-like, tik tok short video that was supposed to sell who they are, and Jinx did that perfectly - because she is a comedy milf that has a kid and tries to date his friends.
@scarynoise9962 жыл бұрын
This I think lalaris a bit dramatic but she didn’t follow the whole point of the challenge “make a famous TikTok dance challenge” and I know people are going to say eating a sandwich could be a TikTok challenge but the whole point of it was to be a dance
@orange7422 жыл бұрын
The bias in this video towards Trinity... Far too much. If people didn't vote Trinity in the top, it isn't because they didn't like her. Raja just clearly did better than her in a lot of challenges.
@aidenriley10462 жыл бұрын
i’ll say it constantly i genuinely think they’re should be a penalty in snatch game for doing characters in snatch game that you aren’t really impersonating, ie the devil, boogieman, historical figures ect. like this is just making a character, not a comedy impression of a character which is the whole point of the challenge
@alpseker54422 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved the video and this way it seems so fair. But then I realized Raja only received one star through the entire competition, that was wild but it's just a competititon and everyone and I MEAN EVERYONE brought their best game and even whoever got the 8th place still had so much to show and I think we can agree on each of these queens deserve to win their original seasons and shown so much growth it is amazing. I don't think any other career or profession in show bussiness require this much self awareness, versatility, humility, quirks, etc. really it was a celebration of these queens even with the unfairness of the whole editing. Also, WHY AND ON WOULD THEY PUT SWISH SWISH AS THE FINAL LIP SYNC. We know it does not matter much, put on a Whitney song where one queen can feel the emotion while the other gives an excellent disco performance. They really wanted everyone to turn on Jinkx last second lol.
@Dark_Aeon2 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree about the acting challenge. In my opinion Monet did the worst in that episode. She took the easiest role and did nothing with it. It was a missed opportunity. I also disagree with you about Jaida in that episode. In my opinion she 100% embodied the nerdy character and I was very impressed with her detailed quirks. The judges rightfully put her high.
@filipf19012 жыл бұрын
shea above jaida and viv in the snatch game INCLUDING THE RUNWAY? I don't think
@jona9763 Жыл бұрын
i think they put the viv in the top for TRL was strictly so she could lipsync in the dolly parton look
@elvirag41972 жыл бұрын
I think most consistent and top for runways were Shea & Raja, then (not in order) Jinx, Viv & Trinity. And for comedy challenges Viv & Jinx
@RauldeKemmeter2 жыл бұрын
pet peeve of mine: it s should have GONE not should have WENT. in every video of yours you keep saying it wrong. "should have went" is just wrong English. please fix it looking forward. maybe it is that English is not my first language but this mistake bothers me a lot. great work on everything else though
@JeremiahFuentes992 жыл бұрын
12:34 The Wheelness. The, The Wheelness
@tfe17882 жыл бұрын
The reason The Vivienne didn't do well at snatch game is because she picked characters who were too British for an American audience
@1412luigi2 жыл бұрын
Yesss the rigory of season 9 is coming!!!
@BenChidley2 жыл бұрын
Monet really ate this season. People need to give her her flowers
@joecoffaro92152 жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
@andreacooray2702 Жыл бұрын
Honestly watching this just infuriated me cause it showed how robbed Monét was on this season
@mschpop45462 жыл бұрын
Should have GONE**** please I’m begging you to change it it’s such a glaring grammar mistake i can’t
@scaredyxashbish2 жыл бұрын
As a Trixie fan attacked by Trixie stans they’re terrifying.
@andressinks2 жыл бұрын
I don't know. Snatch game is arguably the biggest and most difficult challenge with Jinkx as the obvious winner. That's the only challenge I think could deserve 3 stars. And at the end they literally say considering their performance throughout the competition (which is definitely the only fair way to judge). Otherwise "lip sync assassins" should have won every season even if they're in the bottom of every episode.
@fruitloops642 жыл бұрын
It has literally almost never for the past season been “based on your lip sync and the performance.” If it was, Sasha wouldn’t have won, Jaida wouldn’t have won, Kylie Sonique wouldn’t have won, Symone wouldn’t have won, etc.
@andressinks2 жыл бұрын
@@fruitloops64 true. This time it was. Or so they said. All of them have told me that producers have a plan ahead of time so this probably played into that. Regardless it doesn't take away from anyone of them. I still love them all and this season will only help their booking fees so they all win in the end. Jinkx just won the most challenges so it seemed fair by their own judging. Even though we know they edited out all negative critiques.
@tommyg89942 жыл бұрын
i agree, while i think jinkx deserved to win, monet deserved it more
@sethicus96652 жыл бұрын
12:34 “Realness of Fortune” 😭😭😭
@mariachrzski182 жыл бұрын
3:11 I forgive you for being on some shit XD
@jeremias86502 жыл бұрын
to conclude this chapter, im glad it's over. the constant microagressions from jinkx stans to monet, shea, jaida and yvie, the complete dismissal of monet as a contender for the crown (again, by jinkx stans) and the stretches production had to do to the rules just to give jinkx the win (again, because otherwise jinkx stans would've dragged monet to no end) made turned an amazing season to an unenjoyable uncompetitive competition. kind of hope they don't do another one of these cause i can already imagine fans beg and cry for queens like bob and symone to come back just to sh*t on them and DEMAND production to crown, for example, bianca from the second the cast announced. no thanks, I'll pass
@mjm30912 жыл бұрын
Well Bianca won't compete - and it's actually Bob would probably would/will be the fan fave that will get pushed to the crown. Which I wish she will immediately turn down with the production. Because none of the new winners is that much liked. Violet is either liked or hated, same with Alaska. Tracy, Bebe, Chad and James probably won't do it. Bianca and Violet have been vocal of not going back. Sasha, Aquaria, Symone, Kylie and Willow don't seem to me as someone they would push for a winner, because they aren't overwhelmingly liked. And from international I don't think they would ever crown foreigner.
@jeremias86502 жыл бұрын
@@mjm3091 missed my point. that’s not a competition. people discredit shea’s as5 win cos she “won as soon as she walked in” hence why the season wasn’t very fun. same with as7. the competition should count, not who the fans prefer lol pls
@mjm30912 жыл бұрын
@@jeremias8650 Oh, I'm not arguing that - I fully say the same thing everywhere and anywhere. I'm just saying if season 2 happens - it's most likely will be Bob, who they will try to "push" for the win and fans will murder for in the comments. Even if I also think she would deserve winning it. Especially as she upgraded her sewing and makeup skills. But it doesn't change the fact, that I think they would give extra challenges specifically made for Bob, so she could get easy path. And I wish that if that happens - she calls them out on their bs. Because I don't think Jinkx needed that help either. Aside final lipsync (which should have been variety performance showdown) - she probably could still hold high on more regularly formated season. I'm just commenting on the choice of girls you used. I think it would be more about fans begging for Symone, Priyanka and maybe Aquaria to come back, but then they will flame all of them, if Bob doesn't win or if anyone even suggest Bob won't win it.
@chrisbailey25482 жыл бұрын
Monet stans are SALTY lmao
@jeremias86502 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbailey2548 we sweet as st lucia over here. only ones salty were the stans rioting to get a finale format thrown out because their favourite drag queen can't lipsync. even though it's the first of requirements for one. tragic
@Syren0202 жыл бұрын
So I’m trying to be a delusional Jinkx stan (or at least really hoping I’m not) and while I recognize that I’m biased, I really don’t understand the argument against Jinkx’s tik tok win. The challenge was described as a “branding challenge” that mixed humor, personality and dance. Dance was the medium, but if we look at what Ru specifically said, it was only one fourth of the challenge. Sure Jinkx had the least “dance”, but she was by far the best when it came to brand, humor and personality (at least in my opinion). Viv did a full comedic “dance”, Jaida and Trinity were doing exaggerated spoofs of themselves, and Shea was doing a parody. If more than half of the girls were doing comedy, how does that mean that Jinkx’s video wasn’t following the rules? I’m not arguing that you can’t criticize anything about Jinkx, I just genuinely don’t understand this critique.
@cottongarlic86322 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!!
@fruitloops642 жыл бұрын
The challenge was specifically to create a dance that reflects your brand. Jinkx didn’t create a dance.
@Syren0202 жыл бұрын
@@fruitloops64 You seem to have a very narrow view of what can be considered a dance. Which given the "dances" that have gone viral on social media in the past, I think it was a dance.
@fruitloops642 жыл бұрын
@@Syren020 girl she made a sandwich don’t even. That trend would not go viral on TikTok. Her video might, but it wouldn’t become a trend for people to make a peanut butter sandwich.
@Syren0202 жыл бұрын
@@fruitloops64 I forgot that the criteria for what is considered a dance is whether it goes viral on TikTok. Because fourteen year olds are the final arbiter on art forms.
@gw54532 жыл бұрын
Hey you how about drag race Thailand 2
@michaell.85052 жыл бұрын
I still think the community gives Jinkx way too much when it comes to the Tik tok challenge. She gets too many passes for not following directions. Just like girls complained about with Alyssa in all stars 2.
@hawkwing8840 Жыл бұрын
I think Yvie should’ve been in the Top 2 with Shea instead of Monét in the first episode- she had the ONLY GOOD verse and performance on that challenge and even though her runway was HORRIBLE, she still should’ve been rewarded for that… Monét was a lovely second alternate 🫶
@tychobotter2 жыл бұрын
Episode 9, Yvie should be top2 I agree with you you should have gone with that
@dj_netwrk49012 жыл бұрын
Love this vid loll just funny cause i dont think shea or monet would bring jinkx into the finale 🤣 its prolly be jaida and trinity instead of jinx and trinity
@thankyoujames72572 жыл бұрын
I really wish the community just let this shit go. Move on. The person that everyone want to win, won so I think it’s counterproductive to keep going back trying to rewrite the show.
@tea87172 жыл бұрын
This is literally all his KZbin videos, it’s just for fun calm down :|
@thankyoujames72572 жыл бұрын
@@tea8717 you’re right. my bad.
@derrickmoses42212 жыл бұрын
Better stay off the internet then
@thankyoujames72572 жыл бұрын
@@derrickmoses4221 Kay, I’ll throw my computer away.
@vikkigoesrawr2 жыл бұрын
I had a problem with Trinity's Snatch Game performance for one reason - I didn't think her Satan was that great. It felt like a more stereotypical, flamboyant version of the way Satan was portrayed in South Park. It didn't feel new to me. Maybe that makes me a little bit biased, I dunno. I didn't find her Leslie Jordan to be that funny either so I much preferred what Raja did, especially because I compared her Diana Vreeland to Robbie Turner's from season 7 as I was watching. Again, could make me biased.
@antonhaq3503 Жыл бұрын
You've got to hand it to Jinkx, she had so much expectation on her but delivered whilst having a fun time. Shea also had a lot of expectation but buckled under the pressure. It is true though that all the queens were talented and there was often very little between them.
@TP19 Жыл бұрын
But shae didn’t lol they just didn’t give her wins
@antonhaq3503 Жыл бұрын
@@TP19 Actually you're right!
@kimwhatmatters40852 жыл бұрын
Fortune of realness a spin on wheel of fortune. Also means when you’re a T-girl it’s easier to be stealth/passable/(REAL)ness and not be clockable/ butch/ banshee makes you fortunate some ppl have to carve their bodies and faces to the heavens to still look manly. Fortune is like privilege but not as systematic. An example of privilege when jinx and eve-e were neck& neck your audience swayed towards jinx because of white privilege blk ppl have to be undeniable or were invalided or overlooked. If we’re equals we’re told it’s a token /affirmative action, if we’re subpar our lives literally aren’t valued but it were the best by far we’re taken outta blkness told we’re the exception to the rule no longer representative of our race even tho when we do bad we are. To cash in on the success we assimilate as much as possible abandoning our community and bring more along which would give us more leverage but we’re more concerned with self preservation knowing there isn’t room for more than one cause a crab in a barrel thing so now we’re doing the work if the oppressor allowing him to have clean hands and also blame us for our misfortune because it’s our fault blk on blk crime ect ect. Not telling you they provided the framework to our downfall.
@mathrismos Жыл бұрын
this was by far the worst of unrigging series
@munlager2 жыл бұрын
Fabric choice should also matter when judging a look. Any pretty dress could look ugly if you changed the fabric used, but also any UGLY dress could look pretty IF you chose the fabric right
@benjaminmorales85542 жыл бұрын
Jinkx and Yvie were both good, but yvies runway was WAY better than jinkx's
@benedictcumberbatch75222 жыл бұрын
4:28 y’all sleeping on her Super Queen verse!!!!😫
@aoyama_lvvvr Жыл бұрын
the fact that jinkx in in the top 2 episode 9 is so crazy to me, she did not follow the challenge at all 😭😭 like yea it was kinda funny, but she should not have been in the top
@christianbataclao2682 жыл бұрын
No one would bring Jinkx into the Final. If I were there, I wouldn't act dumb.
@benjaminmorales85542 жыл бұрын
YASSS! Monet winning seems fair
@igasulkowska6252 жыл бұрын
for me, the top 2 format for a winner season isnt entirely fair. some queens are gonna get overlooked and the calliber is so high that its harder to distinguish the winners of each ep (thats why ppl call riggory because their fav do amazing but arent rewarded with stars). it should be a bottom 4 format where the group (everyone) votes for 2 queens who did the worst this week, then they lipsync for the ,,plunge" (they cant win stars next week, kinda like ,,painted with raven"), and the rest of the queens get stars, that would have impreoved the season a lot, plus we would have gotten some incredible lipsyncs
@TheJessica4162 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely nothing against Jaida at all, but that legends look challenge...top 2?...when Shea was wearing that?!?...I don't think
@nicoboggs15172 жыл бұрын
There is no rivalry. God let's you worship me. Absolutely slapped tbh
@fingernail682 жыл бұрын
Wait… TRL challenge would’ve been Monet and Shea
@StellaFl2 жыл бұрын
*should have gone 😋
@jessrosefawkes27212 жыл бұрын
I don’t think jinx should of won at all, I mean u need the whole TP and yeah she might be funny and good in acting challenges but so are all the other queens, and the other queens killed the runways too, jinx did not kill the runway at all, but that’s my opinion. It was a fix from start. The viv should of been in jinx’s place at the top. And the viv killed every runway look!! I am from the uk but facts are facts. If jinx had decent outfits then I could of justified her win.
@klinksss2 жыл бұрын
One thing about Jaida'a legendary legend look: I think she deserves more credit for knowing how to hard with that kinda of fabric. Of course the fabric was the best part of the look, bou working big sequins like that is really hard. And those intricate cut outs are even harder to make on that fabric. If Raja went too far and did too many things, Jaida knew how to make just enough, but still had a lot of skill involved.
@delk1272 жыл бұрын
Thank you he seems to not understand that
@evelynryan89122 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I don't get this "if it weren't for the fabric it would be plain" attitude. If Jaida had a different fabric then she would have made something different
@dayglobetty2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the people who claim the fabric carried her outfit have clearly never touched a sewing machine in their lives. It's so clear how well made that outfit is, she thoroughly deserved to win for it.
@MrJec0072 жыл бұрын
Also it's not her fault at all she had that fabric, so that can't really be a critique on her part
@handsoaphandsoap2 жыл бұрын
Also, the fabric isn’t doing all the work in the look. The silhouette is fantastic, the styling is fantastic (that wig,,,, girl), the hip cutouts are a really smart way of bringing an extra element to the design without pushing the silhouette too far, and then there’s the little shrug to add just that one extra element. She could walk down a The Blonds runway in this look and no one would bat an eye.
@managicality2 жыл бұрын
There was a huge lost storyline with Yvie not landing in the top during the competition and then winning the 50k
@ggoddf58892 жыл бұрын
exactlyyt
@indica666_2 жыл бұрын
But Rajas storyline was better
@SpyV_2 жыл бұрын
@@indica666_ raja had no storyline there
@alvaroizquierdojulia Жыл бұрын
Not the point, just give the 50k to the girl who actually won the lypsinc which is Yvie, also, as Yvie has been so ignored this whole season it would’ve actually been nice to see her dominate in what she’s so recognized for which is lypsincing
@casswashwash1070 Жыл бұрын
@@alvaroizquierdojulia thats a better story still. And production does that anyway
@rubena56142 жыл бұрын
it's kind of crazy that you use the fabric that Jaida used (which is reminiscent of the fabric from RuPaul's original look) to justify you not putting the look in your top 2. Designing looks (which is this challenge) does involve fabric choice and I think saying "if you chose any other fabric it wouldn't look as good" applies to literally any garment because... fabric choice is key when designing a look so if anything she gets extra points for choosing such a smart fabric that carries a more simplistic look. Not to mention that Shea's look, in comparison, looked incomplete and could've been made better with a smarter fabric choice for the leggings.
@spencywright92812 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Not to mention, that fabric is extremely hard to work with, so to create the level of detailed look she did with that particular fabric is actually very impressive, not less so
@michaelchristov93092 жыл бұрын
THIS
@scarynoise9962 жыл бұрын
@@spencywright9281 not to mention she didn’t even just get a fabrick she took the time to layer it to give it texture
@ryanmeyers34342 жыл бұрын
I agree but likewise I think they screwed over Shea by not giving her fabric with the cheetah print pattern and her having to spend time making it herself. I am a costume designer and I agree that Jade is fabric isn’t easy to work with and she gets points for that but also that’s some fucking bullshit for shea’s, she probably had to spend an hour or two painting and waiting it for it to dry. Like it sounds easy just spray paint the fabric and put some splotches on it but from personal experience painting fabric it fucking sucks and takes forever!
@TheCalebMoline2 жыл бұрын
Oh, totally, but his choice sounds reasonable if you haven’t sewn or participated in the creation of a garment before.
@cian93502 жыл бұрын
Honestly Vivienne & Jaida being below Shea for Snatch Game is so weird to me. Shea had 2 boring characters. Viv & Jaida had 1 great character each.
@richardpr2 жыл бұрын
Yea, he puts Shea higher than where I’d put her more often than not. I love Shea but I agree with her when she admitted she was fading into the background.
@georgemcgukin55762 жыл бұрын
I loved Vivienne’s snatch game. I’ve seen other British people also say similar. I think Viv choose characters that aren’t well known to an American audience
@Alicia-cc3gy Жыл бұрын
idk if this is just my perspective but i don’t think her catherine tate was really catherine tate :/ both her characters just seemed overly stereotypically british to garner laughter from a less itk american audience
@CamJ95 Жыл бұрын
@@georgemcgukin5576 yeah I honestly think it was the fact her characters were both so British that they didn’t go over so well with the mostly American audience. As a British person though I will say her impressions were scarily good on both of her characters.
@gurlwiththemostcake Жыл бұрын
@@georgemcgukin5576 💯
@uncleandy492 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a Grand Finale with an Audience So that was a let down. Crowning the Queen of all Queens deserved fanfare. Lots of Love and Kindness.
@jk-jl2lo2 ай бұрын
i think it was probably due to their filming time, since it was some time during 2021. covid was really bad still and many people were still unvaxxed, so they probably didn't wanna contribute to it (either for morality reasons or the potential for bad PR from it)
@blaze567012 жыл бұрын
Completely agree I don’t care who won but Vivienne should’ve been in the top Think because she was similar to jinx and was from uk they undermined her but she represented and did sooo well
@cocomontresebeast22102 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really think production did underestimate viv but we Stan and she slays!!!!
@blaze567012 жыл бұрын
@@cocomontresebeast2210 ye I’m British so was rooting for her I’d seen the spoilers and knew there was some riggory goin on
@MichelleD20232 жыл бұрын
Throughout the season they had Viv saying she looked up to the US queens and was nervous about performing well and representing the UK properly. While I’m sure Viv does believe that herself, the way production portrayed her saying these things as well as the fact that Viv is a guest in the US felt like they were implying that UK drag is inherently at a lower tier than US drag and they treated her as such.
@blaze567012 жыл бұрын
@@MichelleD2023 ye i completely agree it’s seen on the other franchises too, like drag race uk/Canada are becoming Americanised if that makes sense, uk 1&2 the winners were very much classic brith drag then s3 came along and no offence but krystal is literally an American queen in terms of looks fashion etc who just happens to be British if that makes sense. I personally think that if it was a fair competition it would be close, not sure who would win as it would depend on challenges etc but US drag race compared to others wouldn’t be miles ahead
@Hatohime2 жыл бұрын
I feel crazy cuz to me Jinkx and Vivienne are two completely different types of drag, Vivienne is not really quirky in the same way imo
@klaraptor2 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand why they even had the lalaparuza lipsync smackdown when it all boiled down to performance over the entire season. Why give out extra stars to get queens into the final smackdown when you already know their performance wouldn't be enough for them to be crowned by your own rules! It makes no sense! With Shea getting looked over the entire season, then to give her 3 stars to put her into the final...but by their own rules she would never be crowned since her performance was lower than other queens who were in the final! But if she landed in the SDADHH bracket she would be able to compete fully and somehow fairly for the 50k at least!
@kopn22472 жыл бұрын
Giving 3 stars to shea was a manour of production to keep the riggory of the rest of the season hidden and put the focus of the fans on shea, u cant tell me otherwise. Shea was done dirty
@narutorules7692 жыл бұрын
I think it’s fine and dandy to say that if Jaida had a different fabric, no one would care… but she didn’t have a different fabric, she had the fabric she used, so I don’t think the critique of “if this was hugely different no one would care” is necessarily useful. Love the video
@gizemekizler44272 жыл бұрын
yeah, also if the fabric was different, she probably would have constructed a different look than this one! Simple structure works with this fabric with a simpler fabric she would have done something different so kind of pointless to think that way.
@hellaSwankkyToo2 жыл бұрын
totally agree.
@ungodlyminutes43932 жыл бұрын
he so weird for that statement that if Jaida has a difference fabric she won't be in the top
@miloslavmasarАй бұрын
The point is that the silhouette wasn't particularly interesting or special
@Brainfly-2 жыл бұрын
I'm still wondering to this day if the outfits for the Legends song were assigned to them, because Shea's bodysuit was wrinkly, Trinity didn't look anything like herself and Raja... I mean, what? It felt so uncharacteristic.
@poultryg3ist2 жыл бұрын
There's still plenty of disagreement about whether Raja or Trinity should've been in the top for episode 2. They both did super well in the challenge, so I personally would've picked Raja for her better Pleather Principle runway.
@highonsugar62732 жыл бұрын
Trinity’s look for that runway was so bad 😭
@johnvarner55362 жыл бұрын
I’m right there with you. Runways mattered a lot this season since everyone was bringing top tier stuff.
@c.k.85852 жыл бұрын
It's also that Luci (or the Boogieman to be fair) is not a character. It's just Trinity being southern and gay with a devil outfit on.
@krissykriss3282 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%
@Whoosh3552 жыл бұрын
@@c.k.8585 I do agree with you that The Boogieman and Luci aren't necessarily characters. However, the goal of Snatch Game hasn't been about impersonation skill in a long time. Yvie and Trinity knew going into this that to win Snatch Game you have to make Ru laugh the most. If you can make Ru laugh, you're likely to get the win regardless of how much you stick to the prompt. This isn't the queens' faults, per se, they're just taking advantage of Ru's biases and nepotism haha
@matthewgraham36492 жыл бұрын
I do think shea had one of the best performances in the Y2K girl group challenge but that Dolly runway stopped her from winning that star. Runways should still count when it comes to choosing who wins P.S jaida made that fabric for the gold look by layering different fabrics together.
@highonsugar62732 жыл бұрын
Yeah she had the worst runway of the week, same as Trinity for the pleather principle runway
@johnvarner55362 жыл бұрын
It’s why I think it should have been Monet and Viv for that week. Viv looked incredible on that runway, a literal recreation of Dolly.
@matthewgraham36492 жыл бұрын
@@johnvarner5536 agreed!
@deyoncew33112 жыл бұрын
Runways rarely matter on RuPaul judged Drag Race though. They're meant to break ties not to determine winners. And while that Dolly look was not good, it was a spot on recreation of the original look so she technically met the brief.
@scarynoise9962 жыл бұрын
@@johnvarner5536 I’m not saying your wrong but for me it would’ve been money and yvie i think yvie played a charecter more relavent to girl groups just imo ofc!
@margaritavlacci2 жыл бұрын
Have to disagree - Shea deserves credit for painting her fabric and everything on the top half of the look, but the leggings are pretty out of place and bring the look down. Also, it just seems weird to say Jaida's look is simple and relies on the fabric, but act like that critique wouldn't also apply to Trinity's look.
@iandean1112 Жыл бұрын
I know from my own experience that draping is easier than making something tight fitting. HOWEVER, Jaida's fabric could NOT have been easy to work with. I hate cutting fabric with sequins or paillettes.
@HuyPhan-xc3fz2 жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree with you on almost everything, especially with Trinity being the only queen who never had the last placement. I had that feeling too the entire season that she is the most consistent of them all
@nokocchi19832 жыл бұрын
people are way too hard on trinity. she is fierce and an incredible performer and deserved all her wins
@johnnybaxter80782 жыл бұрын
I mean she's definitely a top tier drag queen but in the competition she did not deserve to win that roast... or maybe the talent show on as4 or the makeover on s9. You can celebrate her and agree some people did better than her.
@nokocchi19832 жыл бұрын
@@johnnybaxter8078 oh, yeah, the roast i dont think she deserved to win. i wrote this comment at the snatch game part of the video hahaha
@jamesy10052 жыл бұрын
Runways should have been taken into account for this, as sorry but Viv had the best Dolly look and Shea had the worst keeping her from top 2. Also pausing to think who would get blocked when the star count was different to the original episode as that might have changed too
@therogue15422 жыл бұрын
Yeah Monet couldve really had a great storyline this season. This version puts down every single person who says she didnt deserve to win AS4, or at least convinces them that she is worthy of a crown on her own merit.
@guillermo468711 ай бұрын
She won just because she is black.
@theshard5697 Жыл бұрын
Monet's Drag Race is also what I was watching during all stars 7. Completely correct video, no notes.
@khntou41782 жыл бұрын
Ah sigh I'm the most delusional Roger stan but I totally agree that she possibly has the most riggory surrounding her wins this season. Even though it's undeniable that she's one of the most consistent queens this season, usually ranking in the top half in challenges, production really had to push aside a few queens who arguably did better than her in order for her to get the win.
@normalizenatalie Жыл бұрын
i think a part of it is she also didn't win when she should've, she should've been in the top for that first design challenge so maybe they were trying to make up for it lol
@lucasotaviom2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE how this just proves that Monet was amazing this season but unfortunately ended up being overshadowed by the actual win distribution
@daniel66782 жыл бұрын
Monet was rarely the best in any challenge but even her worst performances were still solid. Same for Shea. Unfortunately the format doesn't really reward that
@bali9532 жыл бұрын
Monet was the best for the talent show, the tlr challenge and the final lip-syncs...
@normalizenatalie Жыл бұрын
@@bali953 well the talent show is objective, she WAS amazing, but being the best in 2 challenges wouldn't have put her in the top if it was a normal season either. the three star challenge was the reason she even made it to the finale
@fruitloops64 Жыл бұрын
@@normalizenatalie this whole comment is just absolutely wrong lmao
@analuizadefigueiredosouza7851 Жыл бұрын
She was ok at best lol
@PedroVieira15092 жыл бұрын
Drag Detective being afraid for his life to be slightly critical of Jinkx really proves why this fandom (specially Jinkx's fanbase) has worms for brains. Someone should be able to say "I didn't think Jinkx did well enough to deserve Top 2 on that episode" without being doxxed, harrassed, bullyied, cursed at and all those things the Drag Race fandom does. Jinkx Monsoon is not God. She is a drag queen who won a TV show.
@thinkaboutzu76772 жыл бұрын
Plus atleast in this version, we dont see her lipsync so much🤣
@onikasqueendom88462 жыл бұрын
it’s bc she’s white let’s be real. the fandom is so obviously anti-black.
@lacedupangel2 жыл бұрын
please dont generalize all jinkx fans. as a jinkx stan im willing to admit when she flops lmao
@dylannolastname7302 жыл бұрын
spill honestly. I saw a poll asking fans of who'd they give 100k to between Blu, Kylie, Shea and Jinkx, Jinkx won with 44% of all the votes despite winning 200k compared to Blu who won none 💀💀
@plokijm222 жыл бұрын
I think there's a bit of an issue on all sides. Some of Jinkx's fans are way over zealous and need to calm down, but I can see why they get annoyed. From an objective front Jinkx did perform very well in the season. Better or worse than other competitors, I would say yes but that's subjective. No matter who won, "fans" would be pissed off. Why people can't just be happy for Jinkx because she's a great queen I do not know. Monet is a fantastic queen and was a great competitor but Jinkx deserved the win, it was just a shame production ruined it for her at the end with a stupid lip sync tournament.
@radlee9742 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I’m soooo over people saying that Jinkx absolutely “dOmInAtEd” the season. I mean, don’t get me wrong, Jinkx is a *phenomenal* queen and she did an *incredible* job on All Stars 7. Her Judy Garland will go down as the best Snatch Game performance _ever._ And both her losing her pig ear _and_ her shoving that peanut butter sandwich into her mouth will live rent free in my head for the rest of my life! LOL. (Not to mention her being “hit by a fucking car!” LOL.) So, yes, Jinkx performed fantastically and you’ll never hear me say that she didn’t deserve to win. However, having said all of that, she absolutely did _not_ steam roll the competition. Every single queen did a great job on the season and, as you pointed out, someone like Monét very well could’ve _also_ snatched the crown and justifiably so!! (Seeing it all laid out like this _really_ shows why Monét was so in her feelings after the crowning took place!) But again, I’m not trying to take _anything_ away from Jinkx as she’s genuinely _amazing._ I’m just hella sick of people taking away from all of the other queens who have more talent in their pinky fingers (And they showed us such this season!!) than 99% of the morons out there talking shit!
@silencesteel52462 жыл бұрын
To be real with you guys, although I heard that there was a lot of rigged actions backstage, placement wise i never though this season so rigged. Only top 2 placemenrs in MTV challenge and Trinity being top 2 during roast comes to me as somewhat rigged. Rest of the decision were fine for me. Ok exept last 2 episodes. They were..... crazy
@anavictorianormie2 жыл бұрын
Viv winning girl group challenge; Trinity winning a roast; Monét destroying the Talent Show; Shea winning the episode featuring Naomi Campbell (not she wasn't one of the best, but let's face it: even if she was not, they would have made it look like); Jinkx winning the TikTok challenge; Santa's School for girls had a TOTALLY rigged script written for whoever picked the Principal, the Teacher, the Regina and the Goth Girl to win or be a total flop; one design challenge right when Jinkx were blocked just for the sake of the storyline; Raja and Jinkx being the earliest winners and then being crowned this season. This season was totally rigged it's so rigged it looks like it was scripted.
@Jhawk27112 жыл бұрын
@@anavictorianormie Trinity was like funny in the roast though. How was Monet doing good in the talent show with a never before seen talent… rigged? And like every single acting challenge in drag race herstory has a win/flop role, that’s nothing new.
@de-niall2 жыл бұрын
i mean that’s also with HEAVY editing too
@anavictorianormie2 жыл бұрын
@@Jhawk2711 Monét has always said she was a trained classical singer, so it's no surprise. The surprise is that she changed it last minute to sing an aria (don't know what was the previous number, probably another original track Lipsync and dance). So well fitting since she flopped singing on AS4, right? And on the roast, of course Trinity was funny. They recorded 10 minutes of roast each and only average 1' 30" were aired. The season as a whole was heavily edited and manipulated and all the pieces were there, it was a winners celebration low key rudemptions, with no negative critiques being aired and as Derick pointed, they went blocking the other queens blindfolded as they didn't know what was the next challenge.
@matheusmorvim149 Жыл бұрын
Monet should have won. PERIOD
@newtellah99472 жыл бұрын
Thank you for getting rid of the Raja favoritism from the fandom. But instead you give Shea favoritism she was far worse than Jaida or Viv in the snatch game, did not deserve high for the ball for making the same look she already made and having one of the worst Vannas she was also one of the worst for both the roast and the speaches yet you kept her out of the bottom 2 both times and you also end up giving her an extra star for the last challenge just because. Shea is great I’m happy shes in marvel she deserves it but that doesn’t mean make believe she didnt do consistently mediocre this particular season when she did