The UNRIVALED Legacy of Hyper Metal Sonic

[@therealstarMoses]

The OVA had such great characterization, I liked how they made tails capable of flash stepping like sonic.

[@HaydenPrometheus45]

Flash stepping?

[@thestarryeyedobserver]

@@HaydenPrometheus45 moving so fast that you vanish for a moment. quite literally in a flash.

[@SonicAndre2]

⁠@@HaydenPrometheus45 A technique where you’re moving so fast you vanish in an instant, leaving behind an afterimage. It’s almost as if you were teleporting. It’s a really cool move.

[@HaydenPrometheus45]

@@SonicAndre2 thx for the explanation. I knew the move I just didn’t know it was called Flash stepping 😅

[@Okeana_Aster]

For that last scene where Hyper Metal dies, I think Sonic could have saved him. But Hyper Metal refused. He understands now that he isn't the real Sonic, but he still is his own being and so, showing the same kind of attitude that Sonic has, he decides to go out in his own terms, in the way that HE decides. Him actively reaching out to Sonic's hand just to slap it away is an incredibly powerful statement, and a great display of personality and independency from Hyper Metal, as well as a final act of defiance towards his rival. Basically "I know now that I'm not you. But I'm me. And *I* decide my fate, not you."

[@NeroLucifarious]

Since Metal is supposed to think he is the real sonic...you ever think deep in his code under all the eggprogramming that watching Sonic and his friends leave after a defeat...Metal thinks "Why are my friends walking away with that FAKE...Im right here.."

[@I-do-not-exist-here]

Why the fuck did that hit me like a cinderblock?

[@dominustv]

That is brutal. I love it.

[@Okeana_Aster]

I think Hyper Metal puts Sonic's clothes on the owl because he knows that it's Sonic's favorite clothes (it's stated that they are), and he does it to disrespect Sonic by giving his favorite clothes to wear to someone else.

[@dominustv]

That’s so petty, I love it. 😂

[@Okeana_Aster]

@@dominustv Same, I love it too ^-^

[@Capt.sirmetalguy]

Thats just full on hating

[@FreyaPlayAGame]

YES!! THIS!! I have been talking forever about how I love Hyper Metal Sonic and how he’s basically running an exact copy of Sonic’s brain, he’s more of a clone of Sonic under Eggman’s control and less of a robotic doppelgänger.

[@phantomus9963]

This movie is why Metal Sonic is my favorite sonic character ever! Every time I think of Metal Sonic, this is the version I think of! And I'm so happy this movie is still loved! as its one of my all-time favorites!

[@Jonrocks7]

I feel like OVA gave Ian Flynn several ideas for metal in the IDW comics, considering the moment metal finds out sonic is in the mix of something he dashes into the battle and beelines for sonic, only stopping when eggman is in danger.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Hyper metal sonic is tragic character in my opinion because even though he was a machine his sacrifice was truly sad in my opinion

[@mms96155]

It does feel like once Heroes made him the villian, SEGA sort of didn't know what to do with Metal Sonic. Apart from his cool fight in Shadow Generations, I'd like to see what they could do with him again. That and Sonic Movie 4 when that comes out.

[@dominustv]

Agreed - give him a proper role and let him shine I say!

[@Cautious-kb8xz]

The only Critique is the Voice, Other than That, the Metal MadLad was Perfect!

[@julianazzopardi6504]

My favourite interpretation of Metal Sonic is the one from Sonic Heroes

[@georgejonesthestarseeds77]

Is it safe to say that we need more Sonic Anime content? It just looks so cool! Neo Metal Sonic is my favourite version of the character, probably because it was my first introduction to the character, and I still hope to this day he will make a return (He recently did last year in the fan game Sonic Forces Overclocked). But I agree with you that the hyper metal Sonic is also definitely an amazing interpretation of the character and the real deal of a Sonic villain and a doppelgänger. And shows that he deserves to be more than just another Badnik for Eggman. They should as you use him sparingly, until they find a better way to use him

[@dominustv]

Have to say, Overclocked was fantastic!! Great use of Metal in that!

[@soilderzero2982]

this OVA showed me how powerful Metal Sonic actually was or could be. I didn't see him as a threat before watching this

[@panetoneninjacanal2692]

EXACTLY, they made him be something special, that happened once in a while and was a threat to everyone, the games kinda did that but his debut games suffered from hardware limitations and they stopped doing that when we got to modern era, unfortunately

[@Jam-og1km]

"There is only one Sonic" made me cry as a kid, here's hoping for a homage in Sonic movie 4

[@Eniggma39]

Blame Shadow. Sega is obsessed with making him Vegeta.

[@dominustv]

It’s taken them 14 years to finally start moving him out of that shade 😭 he absolutely did take Metal’s spotlight though, I love Shadow but he is definitely part of the reason.

[@dc7981]

Knuckles*

[@redacted-tn3tp]

we should get a stowy where metal survives, repair himself and coexists with fake sonic

[@peachi_keen]

He’s a legend he’s an icon 🤖

[@dominustv]

True true 😌

[@UnimpressedMetalton]

And he is the moment. Period.

[@MrMassiveMemeKittyCat1750]

9:42 And Do You Know What Else Is Massive?! >:3

[@StarOfElyon]

As a tween in the 90s when I saw "Mecha Sonic" in Sonic 2, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Then he got an upgrade in Sonic 3. I still want to see THAT version in the Sonic movies. I never had a Sega CD so wasn't familiar with the Metal Sonic in that version-I do like his design though and as far as I'm concerned, "Mecha Sonic" and Metal Sonic are the same; I was beyond hyped to see him on the big screen. I hope the film makers can do him justice.

[@K.Bbluesword]

Sonic movie stuff Can metal sonic be presented and written well when there's more than 1 of him in that scene in the sonic movie? Assuming in Sonic 4, there's just an army of metal sonics

[@anthonydavid3348]

I can see a world where a Sonic 4 trailer opens with the confrontation at the New York border, panning out to a Metal Sonic obsessively reviewing it second by second to see where his “authenticity” fell short. I know this specific idea isn’t super likely, but I’m choosing to be optimistic that they’ll find some way to treat him well

[@EmileAnimation]

I feel like when sonic movie 4 comes out there gonna be a metal sonic game, just like how shadow had his own movie and game

[@dominustv]

We can only hope!! Or at least some DLC for the next mainline game.

[@KiiBon]

Praying on my knees for Year of Metal

[@lloydmartel]

@@KiiBon same

[@Fluminox-]

I really hope Sonic movie 4 adapts the events of Sonic OVA. Hyper Metal Sonic is probably my favourite version of him

[@TheFluBugZ]

This OVA is the reason I love Metal Sonic. His characterization in this is practically how I've always viewed Metal. When Sonic Heroes came out and I got to the final story, and heard Neo Metal's lines, It was almost like they were directly referencing this OVA. The one sad thing about the OVA is that we won't ever get an official blu-ray release outside of Japan. Since ADV was the studio that did the English dub, and that they went backrupt back in 2009, all the official documents for royalties were lost. So there is no way that an english re-release will happen.

[@dominustv]

That's such a shame! Still, I guess this remains preserved as a product of its time.

[@BlueBands539]

Maybe it’s time to give Metal his own team Sonic. He’s got a metal Knuckles and a metal tails. Sage could help them form their own kind of bond. You could probably make a story that shows a new bond forge with Sage. Eggman’s family is getting bigger. The story potential could be huge.

[@dominustv]

Yes! If they keep Sage around I would love to see them interact.

[@KiiBon]

Or potentially Metal Sonic, Orbot & Cubot and Sage. Team Empire, maybe?

[@Green_The_Gamer]

I agree with the reply above mine that instead of counterparts to Sonic as a team for Metal Sonic, a team of the empire would suit better since they already have a family dynamic. Though if we are going for the direct counterparts route, I feel like Metal sonic, Mecha knuckles, and Tails doll would be better. Having everyone be part of the “Metal” series would be kind of boring and lacking in variety.

[@Logan-tinyplanetss]

in the end of the murder of sonic the hedgehog, they did have sage and metal in the little endcard together. so it's not totally impossible?? i sure hope a relationship to a brand new eggman prized robot leads to new dimensions with metal

[@cmrobbins88]

Metal definitely used to carry this cold intimidating presence. That uncanny valley of a metallic imitation willing to kill to assume the title of the Real Sonic. I still love Shadow, Silver, and Jet, but Metal is the og rival.

[@Logan-tinyplanetss]

wonderful analysis!!! i agree, ova metal is so incredibly compelling and has drawn me to rewatch the ova more times than i can count. they wrote an homage to the final ova moment with scrapnik island which i deeply appreciated, BUT i just think they've sidelined him so much. even in the classic amy special, it's technically amy AND metal's anniversary, but metal doesn't really get to do anything unique. you pointed out all of his compelling features so well and i miss himmmmmm

[@dominustv]

Agreed!! I hope they take this through to Sonic 4 - I know it's a pipedream but there is so much to embrace about this version of Metal.

[@Logan-tinyplanetss]

@ agreed!! i honestly think it depends on whether carrey signs back on or not honestly (which he was stated to be "positive" about) because theoretically, they may have him alive in a bad future where we see him build metal (or a past where he built metal?) in which case we may get scenes with metal being a whole person with a personality.... we're 3/3 on sonic befriending new mobians in the movie so he may go for an ova "reaches out to metal who slaps him away" moment idk who knows i'll keep my mind and heart open for metal sonic!!!!!!!!!!!

[@vaquishers]

One thing I love about IDW metal is that he clearly has a personality and motivations outside of eggman and even recently in the animations. When sonic told metal that he has to save “daddy dearest”, you can see metal actually very angry and annoyed that not only does he have to stop fighting sonic told save eggman, but that sonic of all characters is right. You see it again when eggman literally orders metal to stop fighting sonic briefly which metal expressed annoyance to but listens nonetheless. It is noted in the sonic colors animation that eggman is designated as a parental figure to metal and he wants his approval. He wants to prove he’s better than sonic but also doesn’t want to disappoint eggman so he’s always balancing his need to obey and his need to win. And during the metal virus saga, he dips his hand into a barrel of metal virus to see if he’d get infected…because sonic was, and he’s superior. So he should also be infected right? So…why wasn’t he? No words at all. Just pure silence, and a mild glitch in his mechanical eye. You can tell that this greatly affected him. Metal feels like a great character all without talking and barely having any facial expressions. But the games don’t show this enough. They don’t show metal actively going after sonic, and then begrudgingly obeying eggman because there are more important things. We don’t see metal overpowering sonic or outsmarting or doing anything except obey. It sucks. He’d be a great villain and one of Sonic’s best rivals in the game alongside shadow

[@dc7981]

The reason I love OVA Metal so much more then game metal is that he actually has Sonic's personality. In the games hes just kind of an edgy robot that looks sort of like sonic and thats it

[@Garinovitch]

If it's worth mentioning, this specific Metal Sonic from the OVA was adapted in the Archie comics, after his destruction they were able to later [somehow] recover his recovered and this Metal Sonic went on to become Shard and was an active ally of Sonic until The Archie comics did a reboot of their Sonic series.

[@Green_The_Gamer]

That never happened though? Hyper Metal Sonic was never adapted into Archie, the Archie comics made their own Metal Sonic modelled after the Metal Sonic of Sonic cd. This Archie original metal sonic originally only had two quills, one on top and one on the bottom of the back of his head. That Metal Sonic went on to obtain a power gem, before getting “destroyed”. He was later recovered and upgraded, sacrificed himself to save Sonic and Tails after nearly killing them, THEN his parts were rebuilt into shard much later. Hyper Metal Sonic and Archie’s metal sonic are not one and the same.

[@Garinovitch]

@@Green_The_Gamer They were not one in the exact same, they were just an adaptation. The events might not have been the same but Sega did come in with the instructions to do something with Sonic OVA, that's why Metal Sonic in the Archie comics and Hyper Metal Sonic shared similar fates around a volcano and having a some spark of goodness in them. Back then with the Archie comics, the writers had alot of control on how to handle the series, just very now and then when some new piece of Sonic media comes along Sega only gives them a few points to what they should do/lead up in conjunction with the games and the rest is up to them.

[@KagepazRequiem]

"Metal Sonic has so much untapped potential! I could see him taking on a larger role, almost like a brother to Sage or even tying into the Archie Comics with Rust the Mecha Sonic. Imagine a storyline where Metal Sonic is introduced as a future version of himself, leading to battles with his past iterations. Add a twist where an alternate, more sinister version of Metal Sonic from a fractured timeline faces off against the present Metal Sonic, with Sage stepping in as an ally. It’d be an amazing way to expand his character and dig deeper into his legacy!"

[@AftonsRoboticsINC]

"Metalic Year of sonic"

[@inversewheel3558]

The metals and mechas are my favorites in the series

[@inversewheel3558]

Movie 4 is about to go hard

[@ShardtheMetalSonic101]

I know a version of Metal Sonic who ended up in this same situation, but actually returned. From the Archie Comics, there was a Metal Sonic who dies in a volcano, and returned as a robot named Shard. The Original Metal Sonic, now upgraded. You should read about that, because it is an interesting way to see Metal Sonic in a different way… a What If Metal Sonic Turned Good scenario. Until the Genesis Wave had to reset the timeline and Archie Comics rebooted…

[@minicle426]

I raise you STC Metallix, and the Brotherhood.

[@gregm4813]

One problem here is that modern SEGA has become allergic to anything resembling in-depth characterization or story-telling with the franchise. That side of Sonic seems to have died after Unleashed, and/or with the death of the Archie comics. The only side permitted (officially) nowadays is the static cartoon character. A "Hyper Metal Sonic" in the games has a high chance of leading to a "redemption" arc for Metal. Which is a concept that I love (my favorite Sonic fanfics explore this concept), but yeah, not likely to go anywhere nowadays. Though I will give one counter-argument to using this side of Metal: Shadow exists nowadays. Both Shadow and Metal Sonic showing in-depth characterization would mean there are two "anti-Sonic" characters. The characters are different enough that the franchise could handle it; but, again, the franchise seems disinterested nowadays in in-depth characterization, so SEGA's probably just defaulting to the "safer" idea of just having "one anti-Sonic be an anti-hero, the other just be a badnik." Meh.

[@YumaTheDarkar]

12:02

[@crimson3019]

You may know everything im going to do, but that's not going to help you because i know everything you're going to do... STRANGE ISNT IT!?

[@BrightBeamBang]

Sonic can be beautifully introduced in Sonic 4 in both terms of origin and motivation. For example, Metal can be created in alternative timeline, where Eggman won't use Sonic’s needle against Gerald, but just push him down into vacuum space. And Eggman stay as a psycho dude, so he won't say Stone that he is his friend. Then Eggman will stole Tails teleport ring and escape to the anotger side of Earth. While without ring Knuckles won't be able to save Sonic and Taiks as it was in Sonic 3, so Knuckles will die or seriously damaged by saving his friends. Whike Shadow without Eggman help won't be able to push Eclipse Canon on a needed distance, so explosion will reach a part of Planet, which wilk make it a dead-side of Earth ( that actually can look like locations from a Bad Future in Sonic CD ). And after all of that Eggman can go even crazier and create Metal Sonic, as he think that enemy which look like Sonic ( Shadow was quite similar ) will be a hard time for blue blur. And Eggman use Sonic’s needle as a core for Metal Sonic, but now Eggman create, but now Eggman do his best and Sonic can't steal his energy back as it was in Sonic 1. So Metal get high AI, he destroy Sonic, but then Metal think that he don't want to be just a tool in someone's hands, he want be something more, so Metal kill Eggman ( Metal can even think that it what real Sonic will do ). Metal can also decide to destroy Sonic from every timeline to become the only Sonic in entire existence. Metal create army of copies of himself and update himsel to Neo form. Also, Metal can even want to stole Sonic’s life, mean create friends for himself like Sonic has, that is why Metal can create Metal Tails or Knuckles, but he won't be able to understand why he can't feel joy of friendship, because Sonic and his friends have story behind their friendship, whike Metal can only force his creations to love him. Metak even can want to became a new hero for humanity, but he will use waaaay more brutal methods for that, because Metal can't understand how to feel mercy, especially to villains. Metal in movie can actually think that he is the real Sonic, while every other Sonic innany other timeline is just a mory primitive copy of Metal himself, he can be the best Sonic ever and he is the real Sonic. So Metal Sonic in movie can easily be a top tier villain among all other Sonic movies ( I am not saying that Gerald, Eggman or Shadow are bad, tgeu are great, but Metal has a huge to he even better ). Not to mentioned that Metal is robot with high intelect and unpredictable actions, he can be not just strong, but also even scary ( he is know every step what heroes gonna do ), even phrase "Long time no see, Sonic" from Sonic Heroes can sound a littke more ironic, of we already know that Metal beat Sonic in another timeline. Its also interesting who can voice Metal Sonic for movie, of course Metal is cool even when he is silent, but he won't lose any peace of charisma if he will get a voice ( especially brutal robotic voice, as it was in Sonic Heroes )

[@thelocaldinopimp165]

Easily the best Sonic movie

[@firekai6594]

I am 500 sub

[@dominustv]

THANK YOU :D

[@hybridvenom9]

You mean death battle for the best metal?

[@dominustv]

No, I prefer character depth over a powerscaling contest lmao